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Telegram's t.me domain has been suspended
- yakohere 3mo agoI stored all of my user images links with t.me and on my telegram mini app all users profile don't show the image. Switching to telegram.me
- deleted 3mo ago[deleted]
- dgellow 3mo agoSeems to be working fine? What does suspended imply here?
- Tiberium 3mo agoIt might be working fine for you if the DNS server you're using hasn't propagated this change yet. The Google DNS server has: https://dns.google/query?name=t.me&rr_type=A&ecs= https://dns.google/query?name=t.me&rr_type=A&ecs= Suspended means the "serverHold" status. I haven't found any official blog post/announcement yet, but the status is unambiguous, and the fact that it happened to one of the Telegram's main short links means that it might be related to legal matters.
- NDlurker 3mo agoAny explanation?
- EGreg 3mo agoThis is what the problem is with DNS.
- deleted 3mo ago[deleted]
- ceeam 3mo ago[flagged]
- ivanmontillam 3mo agoIt has existed for a while, it's called HNS[0]. -- [0]: https://github.com/handshake-org/hsd https://github.com/handshake-org/hsd
- inigyou 3mo agoReality: that's just one of many get-rich-quick schemes that have run their course. Nothing makes it more legit than Namecoin or ENS.
- qurren 3mo ago[flagged]
- arm32 3mo ago[flagged]
- Tiberium 3mo agoThe "serverHold" status is not set by GoDaddy, but by the actual .ME registry https://domain.me/ https://domain.me/ GoDaddy could apply "clientHold" but not "serverHold"
- glitchy99 3mo agoWeird. The .me registry specifically says there are no restrictions and even advertises Telegram.
- inigyou 3mo agoLying in your marketing materials is often useful.
- TiredOfLife 3mo agoGoDaddy owns 38% of .ME registry https://domain.me/ https://domain.me/
- tarr11 3mo agoWhich do you recommend?
- s13k 3mo agoporkbun
- neverusingit 3mo agoStupid fucking name
- codedude64 3mo agoI don't understand I visited the whois site and it seems all it's fine but I don't know if this match with the following cases. - The site was suspended but now it's ok - The site was not suspended - There is other information about telegram suspended
- inigyou 3mo agoserverHold status means suspended.
- ceeam 3mo ago[flagged]
- CrzyLngPwd 3mo ago[flagged]
- kennywinker 3mo agoDo you know the reason, or are you just assuming censorship?
- inigyou 3mo agoHow would it not be censorship?
- kennywinker 3mo agoIf it was due to some other legal dispute, or an accident, or a personal vendetta, or… idk, i will wait and see
- inigyou 3mo agoso censorship, accident, or censorship. I guess it could be accidental censorship.
- kennywinker 3mo agoSome other legal dispute - trademark law, for example, isn’t censorship. Personal vendetta (i hate frank so i sabotaged his work), is also not censorship. Could also be the result of a hack for ransom, which is also not censorship Anyway, this is dumb. It probably is censorship, but i’m still gonna need a confirmation before i get mad about it.
- inigyou 3mo agoTrademark law is a censorship law. Censorship based on personal vendetta is censorship.
- Tiberium 3mo agoDirect link to the registry to verify the domain status (JSON): https://rdap.identitydigital.services/rdap/domain/t.me https://rdap.identitydigital.services/rdap/domain/t.me, Ctrl+F for "server hold"
- sebastiennight 3mo agoOf course we launched our Telegram channel just this weekend, so I am feeling pretty happy that I enforced a 15-year old SOP that says "never email links to 3rd-party domains ; always use a redirect"... Swapping the redirect now for telegram.me, which hopefully won't go down simultaneously
- grayhatter 3mo agoI appreciate the idea, I'll happily adopt your SOP, seems pretty useful thanks
- ars 3mo agoI would do something that isn't *.me, since it was them that suspended it.
- lbotos 3mo agoI think you misunderstood -- OP is running op-s-domain.com/telegramchat -> redirect t.me. They updated op-s-domain.com/telegramchat -> redirect telegram.me.
- cmeacham98 3mo agoI think you also misunderstood, they are suggesting OP redirect to a telegram domain that isn't on the .me TLD, as the other .me is potentially at risk of also being taken down.
- shishcat 3mo agoserverHold means like "suspicious activity, domain is administratively held and taken off dns"
- water-data-dude 3mo agoYou can read an explanation of the status codes on the icann website. The explanation for clientRenewProhibited was interesting: "This status code tells your domain's registry to reject requests to renew your domain. It is an uncommon status that is usually enacted during legal disputes or when your domain is subject to deletion." Similar language for some of the other statuses like serverDeleteProhibited. https://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited https://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited
- ivanmontillam 3mo agoBut if you check the domain's expiration date, it's far away in year 2035. To the best of my knowledge, a domain can only be renewed in advance for up to 10 years. (that could be the reason for that status).
- chrisweekly 3mo ago(2035 is less than 10 years from now)
- ivanmontillam 3mo ago(Yes, but it expires at 2035-05-20. If you count years by rounding up to integers, there's not enough time room to renew it an additional year. It would make it 11 years.)
- zamadatix 3mo agoSame for dog years, but why are we inventing ways to make it seem more than 10 years out when registries, quite reasonably, just use the date normally?
- mike_d 3mo ago> To the best of my knowledge, a domain can only be renewed in advance for up to 10 years. That is the rule for COM/NET/ORG. ccTLDs can do what they please. That said, as a registrar I highly recommend people renew important domains for 9 years. It gives you maximum buffer but allows you to transfer to a new registrar even if your old or new one has the same misconception hard coded.
- haskman 3mo agoWe only recently started moving the Functional Programming India community from Telegram to Zulip. That decision is looking better and better!
- Imustaskforhelp 3mo agoZulip is amazing. Nothing against that but what are your thoughts on fluxer and the others (recently chatto seems interesting, matrix, stoat are interesting options as well). Also awesome initiative by the way, how did you end up making it and I'd love to know some backstory about it actually as well.
- kaladin-jasnah 3mo agoNot the original commenter, but Matrix is awful. I used it on and off, and self-hosted it too. It's slow, bloated (I'm pretty sure I tried other homeservers). The app UI/UX is not great either. The E2EE stuff got better by the end but adoption-wise I was able to get way more people on Signal.
- Imustaskforhelp 3mo agoFor matrix, I don't use the original client but rather cinny. This client is so good that I wish that other clients and it looks really good in UI/UX, honestly I have had some serious thoughts of porting this UI sometimes: https://cinny.in https://cinny.in, so I would be curious what you think about this as well. (Side note: Fractal and the matrix element fork called schildichat are interesting as well. It is also possible to run matrix in terminal for what its worth as well, and nhekochat is good as well. Fractal runs on gtk and nheko runs on qt. I do agree though that running matrix homservers is a bit bulky sometimes from what I have heard but the client scene is probably really good so I am curious what you think about cinny :-D )
- kaladin-jasnah 3mo agoI used Cinny at some point, but the issue for me was the mobile client. I liked Cinny, but wasn't a huge fan of a web-based client. I think I tried Fractal and whatever KDE was working on and neither was polished at the time of use.
- monkeywork 3mo agosomeone enforcing a min character policy on them?
- shishcat 3mo agoNo. There are still many 1 char .ME domains available, and they've always costed an high price. https://imgur.com/a/0NL7oA6 https://imgur.com/a/0NL7oA6
- petcat 3mo ago[flagged]
- ventegus 3mo agoI went here for an IP to write in /etc/hosts and no one has posted it yet :(
- shishcat 3mo agodig +short @ns-cloud-b1.googledomains.com t.me 149.154.167.99 there you go
- withinrafael 3mo agoDidn't t.me also support showing previews of entire channels? Perhaps they got hit with a take-down of sorts due to content (e.g., CSAM) on any particular channel?
- anigbrowl 3mo agoTelegram is currently the target of legal/regulatory investigations by Russia (alleged extremism), France (likewise), and India (alleged facilitation of national exam leaking/cheating). I'm guessing the latter since it's the most recent and arguably has the most fiscal heft. Also very surprised to see Telegram was reliant on GoDaddy, notorious for its lack of transparency.
- indolering 3mo agoMontenegro (.me) seems to be aligned with the EU. But I would have expected there to see a legal ruling in France before Montenegro would do this sort of thing. I wouldn't be surprised if GoDaddy caved to request. They are known for giving up domains to anyone with a badge and a fax machine!
- dylan604 3mo agoIs the badge really that much of a requirement? I mean, if you have a fax machine, you must be a legit source to make that request.
- inigyou 3mo agoserverHold status means registry, not registrar, hold - the relevant protocol (not WHOIS) has the registry as the server, as you'd expect. But you are right about GoDaddy and they are a strange choice.
- KomoD 3mo agoYep. clientHold = registrar (GoDaddy) serverHold = registry (Montenegrin Registry)
- orbital-decay 3mo agoIIRC Telegram has some kind of direct partnership with .me registry. I wonder if it's related
- ilaksh 3mo ago
- RJSquirel 3mo agoI can't believe they use GoDaddy as a registrar.
- Brushfire 3mo agoinsanity. it almost undercuts everything they do.
- zuzululu 3mo agoi think it makes perfect sense if you understand what telegram is and which country it benefits
- gruez 3mo agoSince when did registars care about the political positions of its clients? They could have registered on cloudflare or namecheap and I doubt they'd bat an eye. Telegram is mainstream enough that nobody is going to cancel them, unlike kiwi farms or 4chan.
- zuzululu 3mo agoregistrars are bound by the political whims of those that allow them to exist there have been multiple domains that have been shut down at the behest of certain governments even when its well beyond their jurisdiction kiwi farms and 4chan are relatively harmless compare to what Telegram enables yet kiwi farms was taken offline at the behest of a political camp that has certain opinions about very basic stuffs that shouldn't even be grounds to be considered.
- gruez 3mo ago>kiwi farms and 4chan are relatively harmless compare to what Telegram enables yet kiwi farms was taken offline at the behest of a political camp that has certain opinions about very basic stuffs that shouldn't even be grounds to be considered. For most people, the % of content that's "harmful" matters more than absolute harm numbers. This is a good thing, because otherwise after telegram, the next app to be canceled would be signal.
- nikolay 3mo ago[flagged]
- LeoPanthera 3mo agoThis has nothing to do with ICANN. Status flags are set by the registry.
- kajman 3mo agoThe Don is too busy selling exclusive TLDs to private companies that won't use them to care what the enforcers are up to.
- inigyou 3mo agoThere are no global enforcers of ccTLD registry behavior. It is completely up to that country. In this case Montenegro.
- nikolay 3mo agoReally? So, ICANN enabling registrars to do this is suddenly fine?
- bryant 3mo agoThey're in a position to get their own TLD (e.g .tgrm - edited from .tg); they should probably do this and run their own supporting infrastructure for it at this point.
- noxvilleza 3mo ago.tg is already used by Togo, although .te is not taken.
- pKropotkin 3mo agoNEVER use godaddy!
- orliesaurus 3mo agocentralized dns is always going to give some people headaches, but works for 99.9% of the rest of the people
- markasoftware 3mo agoIts serverHold which means the .me registry took this action, not the registrar (GoDaddy).
- shishcat 3mo agoCuriously, GoDaddy has a 38.352% stake in .ME registry services.
- namegulf 3mo agoYeah,a serverHold is placed by the Registrar. It could be for a lot of reasons: - spam, phishing or malware distribution - contact verification issues - trademark, copyright or cybersquatting legal issues - or sometimes even errors or registrar transfer issues It is a valuable and important domain for TG, most likely they'll resolve it soon
- zuzululu 3mo agoi really hope this is it from telegram. its downright causing havoc in countries without the jurisdictional power like korea and japan which have seen insane rise in drug related crime especially in japan they have a new wave of crime from anonymous telegram operators running human cell crime ops
- fsuts 3mo agoIf telegram disappeared then others would immediately take its place. Telegram also isnt device to device fully encrypted unless you use a more limited private chat and, as Telegram uses googles messaging service, so likely compromised to NSA anyway.
- inigyou 3mo agoThat's why they keep getting in trouble. They're not E2EE, but keep refusing court requests just because "we don't wanna"
- fsuts 3mo agoThey moved to Dubai? So if a court order is obtained in UAE then they will likely comply, but not from other countries?
- inigyou 3mo agoOr move again or hide forever. They already fled Russia and France. In Dubai they might be able to get protection with money.
- fsuts 3mo agoDubai isn’t a super power, they have to follow what USA and the major countries say. Wasn’t long ago that they introduced extradition agreements so now it’s not a country anyone can hide in.
- driverdan 3mo agoArchive warrior's default project is mirroring t.me links. If you're running it you'll need to switch to a different project. It isn't handling the domain not resolving well, it stuck in timeout backoffs.
- KomoD 3mo agoNo announcement from Durov yet...
- KasianFranks 3mo agoThis what's called a golden share.
- secondary_op 3mo agoAnother pathetic uncompetitive play from within US amalgamation blob. This is world under 'Economic Hit Man' and the Rule-based international order. Happy meal for the 'three Zuckerbrins', may they rot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit_Man https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit...
- shishcat 3mo agoI found this post: "I contacted Identity Digital, the registry operator for the .ME domain zone, to request the reason why t.me was placed on "serverHold". The company has now responded and confirmed that the domain was suspended due to OFAC-related compliance requirements. The domain t.me has been placed on serverHold due to OFAC-related compliance requirements Identity Digital also stated that, under its agreements with accredited registrars, it cannot provide further details directly to third parties. Any additional communication regarding the registry action must go through the domain's registrar, GoDaddy." [weird response, this is a serverHold, not a client lock] As you can see, the Montenegrin government is NOT at fault. It’s a decision made by the two biggest stakeholders in the .ME registry, which together hold over 70%: the American companies GoDaddy and Identity Digital. In my opinion, it’s extremely sad that the countries managing TLDs have so little autonomy and are also constantly accused of doing wrong when it’s not their fault.
- shishcat 3mo agoOFAC just announced sanctions against a VPN provider that had a t.me link listed as its website. I wonder if that's what triggered the t.me ban? They saw the domain in the filing and went, "Yep, ban the whole thing."
- codedokode 3mo agoWill they compensate the losses to Telegram for disrupting its business? Or it's ok to take down random domains?
- inigyou 3mo agoWhich provider? It sounds like they're doing something right.
- binarray2000 3mo ago> the Montenegrin government is NOT at fault Who gave management of the TLD to foreign interests? Montenegrin government.
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- shishcat 3mo agoDNS pre-screen delegation detected for t.me watch=. scan=55461 previous: CLEAR_UNDELEGATED now: TAKEN_DELEGATED NS=ns-cloud-b1.googledomains.com, ns-cloud-b2.googledomains.com, ns-cloud-b3.googledomains.com, ns-cloud-b4.googledomains.com rcode=NOERROR server=a0.nic.me Fixed.
- zczc 3mo agohttps://t.me/ https://t.me/ is back online today. No official explanation yet
- unixhero 3mo agoWhy? Due to rampant abuse?
- kamagate 3mo agoCrée un compte telegram