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Amazon will stop accepting new customers for Mechanical Turk
- josefritzishere 4mo agoIt's a shame. Mechanical Turk works better than any AI.
- xandrius 4mo agoIt's still AI, just a different type.
- CodesInChaos 4mo agoThe Actually Indian kind?
- mghackerlady 4mo agoHey, maybe they're Indonesian!
- pwython 4mo agoI thought they were Turkish.
- DonHopkins 4mo agoI thought they only played Chess.
- expedition32 4mo agoEver been to Singapore? Their apartments have a room for a Indonesian maid. Never underestimate just how cheap human life is!
- shshsjsj 4mo agomild racism, needs to be reported
- aswegs8 4mo agoIt's a joke
- Faaak 4mo agoyou can call the police
- shshsjsj 4mo agodang, is this really acceptable in hn? snark is not but racism is?
- HoldOnAMinute 4mo agoIndia is not a race, therefore this is not racist.
- fennecbutt 4mo agoOh my goooood, the average Asian person eats more rice than they do bread.
- imtringued 4mo agoIt's not racism if you think Indians can do a better job than artificial intelligence.
- testuser1984 4mo agoAmerican Idiot kind
- cindyllm 4mo ago[dead]
- DonHopkins 4mo agoArtificial Insemenation?
- brokensegue 4mo agopersonally, i've never had good luck with MT's quality.
- nullsmack 4mo agoI had no idea this was still around. It helped me buy a Battlefield 2 "Special Forces" expansion pack back in the day. Well, I could've bought it either way but buying it didn't impact my normal income because I did Mechanical Turk in my free time enough to get it.
- nirav72 4mo agoThat was a fun DLC. The zip lines were my favorite on the night maps.
- baggachipz 4mo agoThey moved all the Mechanical Turk workers over to robot and autotaxi piloting.
- teddyh 4mo agoAnd monitoring of “cashier-free” grocery stores.
- CodesInChaos 4mo ago> In a snake-eating-its-own-tail irony, a 2023 analysis found that between 33% and 46% of workers on the platform were using large language models to complete their tasks, I assume AI use by workers has risen to the point where it renders Mechanical Turk pointless.
- moralestapia 4mo agoYeah, I was doing this kind of Artificial Artificial Artificial Intelligence back in 2012 to make some extra $$$. Glad they finally "patched" that hole ^^.
- pc86 4mo agoYou were using LLMs in 2012?
- pixel_popping 4mo agoFiverr-5.5 was the leading model back then.
- simlevesque 4mo agoThey were faking artificial intelligence by using real individuals.
- HPsquared 4mo agoThat's just Artificial Artificial Intelligence, the triple negative implies they built an automated system to impersonate humans who impersonate an automated system (which ultimately imitates a human).
- moralestapia 4mo agoNot LLMs. (Useful) LLMs came to the market around 2022.
- subarctic 4mo agoArtificial AI = stuff like mechanical turk where they get humans to do stuff computers can't do and make it look like it's "AI" Artificial Artificial Intelligence = using computers to do mechanical turk jobs
- root-parent 4mo agoI can see a high value startup, that will provide Human Intelligence with real Humans, locked in the room, with no network, books, LLMs and monitored 24x7 with cameras.
- HoldOnAMinute 4mo agoPlease enjoy each task equally
- mcmcmc 4mo ago24/7 isolation with no stimulation outside of work? Wonder if the hallucination rate would be higher or lower
- morkalork 4mo agoJust give them some exercise bikes to pedal to keep them physically occupied
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- eli 4mo agoI'd suggest first looking into the conditions that enable humans to generate sustained, high quality output.
- DonHopkins 4mo agoI'd pay for authentic artisnal fresh prison-to-screen Trump Truths produced that way.
- weregiraffe 4mo agoPrison labor for the rescue!
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- obblekk 4mo agoMaybe the most unambiguous "ai will automate work" example I've seen yet. Absolutely does not imply the workers are automated since they can now use the current models to do more complex tasks at the vast number of new AI training data startups. Turk was simply not designed for greater complexity tasks and so much of their lunch has been eaten by startups specifically built to collect AI training data.
- leohonexus 4mo agoWhere do I find participants for my user studies then?
- jakelsaunders94 4mo agohttps://prolific.com https://prolific.com
- sampton 4mo agoPour one out for the original A.I. (Actual Indians).
- jordemort 4mo agoI turked for a bit trying to make some extra cash leading up to my wedding, but it was a very time-inefficient way to make money. I think I managed to wring 10 or 20 bucks out of it tops after plugging at it for a month.
- aabhay 4mo agoThis has very little to do with “AI replacing jobs” and much much more to do with a bad product getting obsoleted by better ones. Human labeling is a two sided marketplace and so as any marketplace startup knows, both sides need to be constantly nurtured otherwise the system can collapse as worsening quality leads to churn and a vicious cycle that empties out the platform. In labeling, you need to understand the limitations of individual work and fatigue, keep your pipeline bursting with awesome and consistent work, and improve the platform to make customer experience great. AMT has been totally languishing in all these respects. Pay is terrible, dishonesty rampant, etc. It was a bad product, no need to pedestalize it or turn it political
- Twirrim 4mo agoBack around 10 years ago, I gained a new manager who had previously managed mechanical turk. It was already recognised as a dead end back then. I remember him talking about getting a mandate from Amazon Security to upgrade from the long EOL MySQL 4.0 to MySQL 5.something, and that it was almost impossible to get any resources committed from leadership to even do it despite the fact it was security requiring it (which usually resulted in everyone jumping before stopping to ask how high to jump). I want to say he ended up doing it himself? Something like that.. All existing extremely minimal headcount was tied up in a massive technical debt of KTLO work, and proposals to resolve those issues similarly met resourcing road-blocks.