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Job: Head of Stonehenge
- _alternator_ 5mo agoOn the front page? LLMs got lots of us programmers dreaming of leaving the profession, I suppose.
- tyre 5mo agoIs this not super cool regardless? Even if you love tech, was a fun little gem.
- pants2 5mo agoSounds like a very cool job, and not sure about the UK job market, but seems to be wildly underpaid for the qualifications!
- y-curious 5mo agoEspecially considering minimum wage “salary” in the UK is ~24k GBP, 64k is nothing imo. They call it the “wage squeeze”
- UnfitFootprint 5mo agoAverage full time salary is 40k GBP. It’s +50% on the average which seems right for a non profit organisation in a non exec role
- jacknews 5mo agoIt is a leadership role though. I don't know how many staff there are, but it's surely one of EH's most important locations.
- enraged_camel 5mo agoYeah, but 25 days holiday plus bank holidays means you're working like half the year at most. ;)
- dylan604 5mo agoAnd don't you knock of at lunch on Fridays anyways? So that's like a 4 day work week, because let's face it, you're not really doing anything on the day you're knocking off early anyways. See you at the pub!
- marysol5 5mo agoRead-Only-Fridays, and having a pub lunch so you're not doing much all afternoon anyway!
- loeg 5mo agoThis is like 90th percentile UK salary. It's good pay for the UK, a poor country.
- geysersam 5mo agoLet's not be delusional. The UK is not a poor country, and 64K is low by US tech standards but it's good by any other measure.
- bpodgursky 5mo agoIt's not a "good" wage in the US. It's exactly median. Which is fine, someone has to be median, but really underwhelming for the (presumably highly-educated and talented) head of the #1 national historical monument.
- mrwh 5mo agoIt's £64K, not $64K (which is indeed about the median in the US). So, not bad.
- bpodgursky 5mo agoAh I misread that, but $86k is still not good for a highly educated professional.
- laurencerowe 5mo agoThe UK has had substantially less wage inequality than the US for a long time. The UK “wage squeeze” is median/minimum wage which has gone from the 1/3 to 2/3 since ~2000 as the minimum wage has been raised. But the relevant difference here would be around 90th percentile/median which is 1.85 in UK vs 2.4 in US and even higher in California.
- hdgvhicv 5mo agoAnd over time the ratio is similar - 90%ile about 1.9 times median for the last 30 years.
- swarnie 5mo agoJust a smidge over $63k after tax and before gibbs. The job market over here is shocking.
- dismalaf 5mo agoLol in Canada 64,000 pounds = $120K CAD which would put you in the 92nd income percentile.
- loeg 5mo agoThis is equivalent to $85,700 USD, not $63k.
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- techterrier 5mo agothis isnt all that *bad for something in the conservation / heritage / ngo sector edit: *obviously its not a wonderful salary, but for the sector....well I've seen worse.
- kaonwarb 5mo agoNot disagreeing, but it's also worth something to know, and say, that you are in charge of Stonehenge.
- sva_ 5mo agoMust be an extraordinary honor to be in charge of a bunch of rocks over there.
- 650REDHAIR 5mo agoYes?
- cyclopeanutopia 5mo agoWait until you learn some people are swapping bits all day long, isn't that crazy?
- kefabean 5mo agoI call them Bit Shepherds
- loeg 5mo agoThis is like a 90th percentile UK salary.
- marysol5 5mo agoIn reality, because the "salaries" higher than this aren't paying in PAYE.
- bdavbdav 5mo agoI’m not sure that’s strictly true. I think you’ve got to go a long way up the salary ladder until you’re in a situation where you can command more complicated arrangements (certainly when working for larger companies)
- zipy124 5mo agono. Most UK income statistics are based on total taxable income, not salary.
- YZF 5mo ago36 hours per week. 25 days vacation (going to 28). Pension contributions. You can buy extra leave. Epic location, fun job, decent salary for the UK (where e.g. you don't pay for healthcare)...
- Tepix 5mo agoYeah, the 25 days of vacation are a bit disappointing, in Germany 30 days are standard.
- tikkabhuna 5mo agoIs that including or excluding bank holidays? In the UK, 25 days excluding the 8 bank holidays is pretty standard.
- Tepix 5mo agoExcluding
- wyclif 5mo agoTalked to a German guy who was here on holiday recently. When I told him that in the US it's typical to get two weeks vacation when starting a new job, you should have seen his eyes bug out. It was hilarious.
- robotresearcher 5mo agoYou do pay for healthcare, from the taxes on that salary.
- phyzix5761 5mo agoDon't forget to deduct the 25% effective tax rate. Calculator: https://www.tax.service.gov.uk/estimate-paye-take-home-pay/your-pay https://www.tax.service.gov.uk/estimate-paye-take-home-pay/y...
- jrflo 5mo agoI'm not in the UK, but from what I understand that's actually decent. US salaries, particularly in tech, are wildly higher than in most of Europe.
- oaiey 5mo agoUK tech salaries are also not high. And 64k pounds for a history and/or business major is quite right. Do not forget also: history is a overrun study with many people afterwards driving taxis
- vintermann 5mo agoI wouldn't mind a few more archaeologists. They may be many compared to the jobs available, but there should be more jobs available.
- kristianc 5mo agoThis, shockingly, is actually quite well paid considering for the UK. Lead Data Scientist for the UK Government is currently advertising for a salary of £57,670 - £67,500. https://www.civilservicejobs.service.gov.uk/csr/jobs.cgi?jcode=2000448 https://www.civilservicejobs.service.gov.uk/csr/jobs.cgi?jco...
- hdgvhicv 5mo agoGovernment jobs are terribly paid. They tend to have good pensions worth another 15-20k though and tend to be very flexible. Project manager on 65-85k https://uk.indeed.com/m/viewjob?jk=a43416327745431e https://uk.indeed.com/m/viewjob?jk=a43416327745431e Lead data scientist 100-110k https://www.reed.co.uk/jobs/lead-data-scientist/56925078 https://www.reed.co.uk/jobs/lead-data-scientist/56925078 Neither of those are London based.
- bdavbdav 5mo agoThat’s government. They’re notoriously underpaid.
- philipwhiuk 5mo agoAnd this is third sector.
- moomin 5mo agoThe charity sector rarely pays well.
- ascorbic 5mo agoThis is a decent salary for a heritage job. It is a very poorly-paid sector. On building sites with archaeological excavations, the person driving the digger is likely to be paid more than the archaeologists, who probably have postgraduate degrees.
- celsius1414 5mo agoMissed opportunity to say they’re ‘looking for a rock star to lead our team!’
- laszlojamf 5mo ago"a solid leader who can carry the weight of our massive responsibility"
- peebee67 5mo agoThey pretty much are, too. It certainly reads like some tech job ads. Rock star with 30 years experience. Graduate wages.
- tkocmathla 5mo agoThe median income in the UK is currently sitting at £2,627 / week or £31,524 / year [1]. This is advertising more than double that at £64,189, not quite graduate wages! [1] https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/earningsandworkinghours/bulletins/earningsandemploymentfrompayasyouearnrealtimeinformationuk/latest#median-monthly-pay https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwor... EDIT: £2,627 / month, not week!
- NamlchakKhandro 5mo ago2.67 * 52 = 138.84 Not sure how you got 31,524
- hdgvhicv 5mo agoThey meant per month obviously.
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- green_wheel 5mo agoWhat's your role? I'm a CSO. Oh nice, Strategy or Security? Stonehenge.
- bfeist 5mo agoHeard of it?
- quuxplusone 5mo ago"Just to be clear, you are saying you manage a hedge fund, right?" "Yeah, a henge fund." "Hedge fund." "Henge fund." "Hedge." "Henge." "...I think we're on the same page."
- appplication 5mo agoThis had me giggling, thank you
- zuzululu 5mo agoreally wish i keot my british passport
- smashah 5mo agoStonehenge would be a great AI Lab name!
- readthenotes1 5mo ago"Job type Permanent" I bet they enjoyed typing that in. "5,000 years+ -- depends on you" Might be another option if it were freeform text
- 12_throw_away 5mo agoI assumed "permanent" was industry jargon for "the ideal candidate will be sealed in the Pandorica for all time", but it's something I'd probably clarify during the phone screen.
- Quarrel 5mo agoDamnit. No WFH option.
- teaearlgraycold 5mo agoUnless Stonehenge is your home
- andrewstuart 5mo ago“Work From Henge”
- faangguyindia 5mo agoi know quite a few dev ops and frontend guys who were employed for last 4 years and are now driving taxi in india.
- xtorol 5mo agoDue to a typo in the paperwork sent to HR by the hiring manager, they are only paying 64,189 pence. The director was last heard chastising HR, saying "It's not your job to be as confused as Nigel."
- madrox 5mo agoBuilding a henge, are we?
- kombookcha 5mo agoYou bastards, you never told me 200 miles. 200 miles in this day and age! I don't even know where I live now!
- madrox 5mo agoI wish the Christians would hurry up and get here
- kombookcha 5mo agoGod, I had that entire Dress To Kill show loaded up on my old timey mp3-player along with Definite Article, Glorious and Sexie. Barely any room for music, but I was giggling my way through every day trying not to look too insane in public. Izzard probably rewired my brain more than any other single comedian.
- curtisblaine 5mo agoTechnically Stonehenge is not an henge (even the term henge comes from Stonehenge) > Ironically, even though Stonehenge has an earthwork circle around it (the earliest phase of the monument), it isn’t officially a ‘proper’ henge, as the main ditch is external to the main bank. It has to make do with being a ‘proto-henge’. https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/visit/inspire-me/what-is-a-henge/ https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/visit/inspire-me/what-is...
- vintermann 5mo agoWell, they've got no moat.
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- davidschof 5mo agoTheir senior solution architect vacancy has similar pay: https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/about/our-people/careers-with-us/job-search/default-job-page/?jobRef=16476 https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/about/our-people/careers... Somewhat less eminent job title though.
- riffraff 5mo agoI would love to have "Stonehenge architect" as a job title.
- oaiey 5mo agoThey really miss out on opportunities here.
- gosub100 5mo agoMonolithic codebase though
- layer8 5mo agoIt's still modular.
- oumua_don17 5mo agoAnd probably a prototype deployed to production!!!
- stymaar 5mo agoDon't threaten me with good times.
- 1-more 5mo agoI'm counting the liths and I'm getting a lot more than mono
- Zancarius 5mo ago
- ggm 5mo ago* Must be proficient in use of mistletoe in unspecified rituals. * Must provide own sickle, and robes.
- JoeDaDude 5mo ago* Must be willing to perform human sacrifices during select astronomical events?
- nephihaha 5mo agoMust be fluent in Cornish.
- thih9 5mo agoMust be proficient in brewing potions. NOTE: Only cauldrons with a safety mechanism preventing anyone from falling into the potion can be used at the site; traditional Gaul type cauldrons do not qualify.
- nly 5mo agoFunny, but it's actually in Wiltshire
- nephihaha 5mo agoI was going to say Welsh, but a lot of people speak Welsh. Cornish sounded better.
- gbacon 5mo agoWhat about the wizard hat?
- Mistletoe 5mo agoHonestly feels like a dream job. Imagine your ancestors smiling down on you if you are from Britain or just human.
- russellbeattie 5mo agoI caught a live stream of Stonehenge during this past Winter Solstice (it was cloudy, naturally) and the streamer provided a bit of trivia that I hadn't heard before: George Washington's English ancestors, specifically Sir Lawrence Washington, were the owners of the West Amesbury Estate in Wiltshire, England, which included the land where the ancient Stonehenge monument sits. (Via Google) If you hadn't that before, welcome to the "Huh, that's a funny coincidence" club.
- hdgvhicv 5mo agoRich people have lots of descenders who tend to be rich. Washington was a wealthy landowner in the British Empire, hardly surprising his ancestors were wealthy landowners.
- robotresearcher 5mo agoWhat’s it a coincidence with?
- marysol5 5mo ago"Rich man had a rich family, how queer"
- lifestyleguru 5mo agoLand owners also had married within family so I you checked their family tree two persons could be simultaneously spouses and cousins. That's a coincidence!
- mattoxic 5mo agoI would have thought you'd need to be a druid
- onion2k 5mo ago"If I get the role, what will my budget for repairs be?"
- manarth 5mo agoDon't forget the twice-a-year realignment when the clocks change for daylight saving
- SLHamlet 5mo agoRE Your predecessor No one knows who he was, or what he was doing. But his legacy remains hewn in the HR dock of Stonehenge.
- nDRDY 5mo agoSome say he was let go after a design error lead to some dwarves kicking over the first stonehenge.
- chicagojoe 5mo agoI was slightly disappointed when I first visited Stonehenge as the standard tours keep you fairly far away and roped off. But, I took a modestly more expensive "Inner Stones" tour a few months ago and lucked out being selected to be fully alone for a minute. It was a profound experience being in the middle of such a historic place. Highly, highly recommended!
- laurencerowe 5mo agoBest of all go during the summer solstice when there is free public access. It’s really quite fun. During the the 1980s and ‘90s there were regular clashes between new age hippies and police stopping them from reaching Stonehenge during summer solstice before public access was allowed.
- madaxe_again 5mo agoI highly recommend avebury, about 20 minutes down the road. Absolutely enormous megalithic complex, huge man-made hill, and you can just wander where you wish, go hug a menhir, whatever you fancy - and there’s hardly ever more than a handful of other people there. Oh and it’s free.
- TheOtherHobbes 5mo agoYou must have gone at a quiet time. Avebury can be absolutely heaving in the Summer and on the traditional pagan quarter days. It also has a pub, a restaurant, a gift shop, a museum founded by a marmalade magnate, and if you're really rich you can buy one of the houses inside the circle. Generally a happier experience than Stonehenge. If megalithic rocks are your thing there's also the nearby West Kennet Longbarrow, which is far more likely to be deserted, especially at night, although if you go on the quarter days (nights) you'll probably meet weirdly-dressed people lighting candles and throwing spells around.
- jbaber 5mo agoWest Kennet Longbarrow's also appropriately spooky. I've been there with people too scared to stay inside.
- tekchip 5mo ago"From £64,189 p.a. depending on skills and experience" I maintained a collection of well organized rocks as a child. Surely that gets me a bit more than base pay right?
- fergie 5mo agoMust be a rockstar
- Lio 5mo agoThere's got to be a way to shoehorn in a Spinal Tap reference here, I just haven't had enough coffee yet to think of it.
- philipwhiuk 5mo agoThe height of the stones goes to 13!
- kitd 5mo agoGood at aligning rocks with stars
- stinkbeetle 5mo agoI'm afraid that won't even get a foot in the door in this market. You must have at least 5 years experience managing Salisbury megaliths to meet the selection criteria.
- blitzar 5mo agoeven if you grind lots of leet-stone problems?
- throw310822 5mo agoBetter than Head of Easter Island.
- rpaddock 5mo agoIn the fall of 2023 I tried to visit Stonehenge. We arrived at 15:15 local time. I was riding in the passenger seat. There was a male and female police officer standing at the side of the road, beside a "Road Closed" sign blocking the entrance. The male police officer came to my window and started yelling in my face: "We are closed!! Come back another day!!!" I knew it would be pointless to argue with this a-hole and there was no other day in my schedule that we could come back. So we left and never got to see it. Do these old rocks get tired at three in the afternoon or what? I'll be sending this Head of Stonehenge an email about the experiance...
- pnut 5mo agoSounds like VIP/head of state visit and terrible communication skills.
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- rjmunro 5mo agoLast entry is at 3pm in winter because it takes a while to queue then catch the shuttle bus etc. and it gets dark, so closes at 5pm. But if there were actual Police, not just English Heritage security, it sounds like something strange was happening that day, like a VIP visit or something. It gets so busy that it's recommended to book a timeslot in advance on the website, even if you are a member and don't have to pay.
- AlotOfReading 5mo agoThe stones don't get tired, but the humans running the visitor center and keeping the tourists in line do. Operating a highly visited historical site like Stonehenge takes significantly more work than people realize.
- flurdy 5mo agoAsk one of the Ylvis brothers
- VikingCoder 5mo agoDoes this seem like a Netflix show to anyone else?
- bobmcnamara 5mo agoExperience? I'm the head of pebble hedge!
- hmokiguess 5mo agoNext up: Forward Deployed Wizard
- hmokiguess 5mo agoStonehenge! Stonehenge! Lots of stones in a row! (chor) ... And they moved it (Stonehenge!) And they dragged it (Stonehenge!) And they rolled it 46 miles from Waleeees! - Heeey (46 miles from Wales! ) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klJhWr_FTaE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klJhWr_FTaE
- 12_throw_away 5mo agoAnd hey, at £64K per annum, you'll want a Honda Civic - a car you can trust.
- NoSalt 5mo agoMan, how awesome would that job be?
- thih9 5mo agoI’m waiting for the “Head of Skull Rock[1]” position. [1]: https://www.nps.gov/jotr/learn/nature/skull-rock-trail.htm https://www.nps.gov/jotr/learn/nature/skull-rock-trail.htm
- eliben 5mo agoJoshua Tree NP <3
- fsck4 5mo agoDry stone masonry.
- axolttl88 5mo agoWhile the stones are usually roped off from up close viewing still loom large because of their cultural impact, the area around them is beautiful. The Heritage org. has brought up huge tracts of land around them to protect it and restore it to the way it "was". You get to wander around most of those vast fields freely, among ancient mounds. On a nice summer's day, it really is one of the most peaceful and beautiful things to do.
- matthewpick 5mo agoMy brain went straight to Niagara Falls for some reason… I wish the experience of viewing the falls was similar. Just in nature rather than this built-up tourist destination.
- laughing_man 5mo agoI would definitely take that job no matter how little it paid or how unpleasant it was. For awhile, just so I could put it on my resume.