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I love the readme on the gitlab page [1]. It feels so.. friendly :) > This repository contains CAD files for the external shell (surface topology) of Steam Con
by roer 5mo ago
I love the readme on the gitlab page [1]. It feels so.. friendly :)
> This repository contains CAD files for the external shell (surface topology) of Steam Controller and the Steam Controller Puck, under a Creative Commons license. This includes an STP model of each, an STL model of each, and an engineering drawing with critical features/keep outs for each.
Feel free to use these to make your own Puck holders, Controller sweaters, or whatever else you want to create!
Your Steam Controller is yours, and you have the right to do with it what you want. That said, we highly recommend you leave it to professionals. Any damage you do will not be covered by your warranty – but more importantly, you might break your Steam Controller, or even get hurt! Be careful, and have fun.
[1] https://gitlab.steamos.cloud/SteamHardware/SteamController https://gitlab.steamos.cloud/SteamHardware/SteamController
- jandrese 5mo agoImagine if everybody did this. You break some stupid plastic part on something? No need to throw it away, just print an exact replacement on the spot. Or maybe tweak it first so it's less flimsy then print the replacement.
- embedding-shape 5mo agoGoing a step further, imagine hardware manufacturers noticing specific defects, then publishing new updated CAD files for a part that lasts better than the last, for customers who already have 3D printers to print their own upgrades/"patches".
- bluGill 5mo agoThat can work, but 3d printing doesn't in general make for strong parts (layers). Most of the time you want some form of molding or CNC subtractive machining (either plastic of metal) - while some hobbyists have this, 3d printing is far more common. (and often easier)
- snovv_crash 5mo agoFDM in PLA/PETG sure, although recent advances have improved on this via things like brick layers. Resin based printers are a whole different story though. They can make really durable parts. And even FDM with more advanced filaments have gotten competitive.
- jandrese 5mo agoYou might be surprised at how durable FDM parts can be if you know what you're doing, especially if you're willing to blow a some extra filament on making it solid. Orient the layer lines perpendicular to the sheer forces and it can be stronger than the original molded part.
- gh02t 5mo agoThis was always the dream for 3D printing, heck going back to classic Star Trek replicators and other science fiction. Granted, even with these models available it's kinda difficult to print large organic shapes like the main housing shells on most affordable consumer printers so I suspect there might not be too many people actually doing it. However, having the exact CAD files makes designing mods and 3rd party upgrades much easier.
- kube-system 5mo agoSounds like this is just the external dimensions? That's mostly just useful for creating accessories. That's not too special, Apple does this too. https://developer.apple.com/accessories/dimensional-drawings/ https://developer.apple.com/accessories/dimensional-drawings...
- nvme0n1p1 5mo agoThose PDFs are useless. If you want a purple Steam Controller, you can load Valve's STL into your favorite slicer, 3D print a new shell, transplant the electronics, and you're done. If you want a purple MacBook, could you do the same with those Apple PDFs?
- kube-system 5mo agoNo, you can't, because it doesn't include any internal topology. > This repository contains CAD files for the external shell (surface topology) of Steam Controller and the Steam Controller Puck
- whh 5mo agoIf somebody wants to reverse engineer it all they have to do is buy one. Then Apple's lawyers come for your liver. Edit: spolling, I have a fever.
- bisby 5mo agoThis is why I bought a 3d printer. Headphone piece broke. Replacement was covered under warranty. Once. After that it was $30 a pop from amazon for the replacement part. Both of the parts provided under warranty (it was a set of 2) broke in the same way. Figured if the parts break that regularly, I would wind up spending $500 in just a few years on replacement parts, might as well just get a printer. The part already had a model available (it was apparently a common issue), and the printed version hasn't broken yet. I know nothing about making models, so the fact that the community already had the replacement part ready to print for me was a huge win, and Valve doing this basically guarantees that there will be a variety of "Controller stand, with puck slot" and replacement part prints available. HUGE win.
- bsimpson 5mo agoFusion is a really cool tool to learn. It's a flavor of 3D modeling called "constraint-based." You've heard the adage that if you give a million monkeys typewriters, eventually one will write something coherent? Constraint systems embody that same idea: There are infinite possible 3D models. You keep adding constraints until you narrow it down to only one possible solution that fulfills all of them.
- SAI_Peregrinus 5mo agoI've been learning FreeCAD, while it's still more frustrating than Fusion or SolidWorks it's much better than it used to be pre-1.1, and it's FOSS. Also constraint-based, I've been using the new spreadsheet view as the source of all constraint dimensions, with parts derived by binding to top, front, or right-side orthographic "master" sketches. Much like hand-drawn design, where you draw the orthographic views and use those directly to create an isometric view.
- parlortricks 5mo agoI love FreeCAD, designed some parts, did a bunch of Solidworks challenges and entered CAD comps. I also love playing with build123d, dune3d (uses solvespace constraint) and SolveSpace. Do love Solidworks but I'm on linux now so time to embrace the other options more.
- tdb7893 5mo agoLarge companies obviously are happy to screw their customers in various ways but I've had pretty good luck with smaller and especially more local businesses. I once had a jeweler gift me an ultrasonic cleaner when I asked them how best to clean a difficult to clean ring (presumably they had recently bought a new one). Caring about the products they make and their customers seems like sorta the default for most people but large companies learn apathy eventually (or maybe it's mostly the companies that prioritize growth this way that become big). I wonder if less top down control at companies (especially by finance investors) would have them be better to consumers.
- herpdyderp 5mo agoSometimes I wonder what we did to deserve Valve and how long it can possibly last.
- seanw444 5mo agoGabe better be immortal.
- wvbdmp 5mo agoHe’s going to die in a fucking scuba diving accident, I have nightmares about it constantly
- nialv7 5mo agoHave you warned Gabe about this
- vablings 5mo agoI highly doubt it for a number of factors. - Most of his dives look to be rec depth - He isn't running any crazy gear like a CCR - He has instant access to a chamber, so any DCS worries are virtually zero - There is no go-itis for him. If weather is bad, he just packs up and sails to somewhere nicer Out of all the rich people hobbies, scuba is about the safest
- dghlsakjg 5mo agoScuba diving is a pretty risky activity on the scale of things that rich people do in their everyday life. Golf and cycling are a lot safer. Scuba fatalities fall into a few buckets, the big two are inexperience/bad decision making, and older folks with health issues (underwater heart attacks/respiratory distress, basically). As a former dive pro, an overweight 63 year old is someone that I would keep a very close eye on while diving. The odds are pretty low, but there is a reason that many life insurance companies exclude scuba divers from their coverage. That said, I'm happy to let him live as dangerously as he wants, he deserves it.
- Onavo 5mo agoI think at this point Steam might as well just release the hounds and let third parties build and sell steam compatible hardware (the Android play). Their own attempts have been, well, not great. Dealing with hardware supply chains is a very different game than software. They already have a platform, the hardware is purely for distribution. Whether they make a profit on hardware or not doesn't really matter. They are basically the opposite of Apple.
- jdoe1337halo 5mo agoThey tried this many years ago with the original steam machines, it went horribly. Also, you can install SteamOS or Bazite on most machines. Not sure what the issue is here.
- Forgeties79 5mo agoSteamOS does not currently really work on modern desktops/laptops. You can force it but it’s really not made for it. They’re pretty clear about that, I think they even pulled down the OS download page from their site and now clearly mark it as for restoring old machines. Likely to change soon though with the steam machine release
- a96 5mo agoBazzite is great, though. And doesn't lock you in to Steam or DRM if you don't use them.
- Forgeties79 5mo agoYeah I’ve been using it as a daily driver, no windows partition or anything, for over a year. It’s been great. Having an AMD CPU/GPU combination definitely helps though
- awkwardpotato 5mo agoSteam already supports 3rd-party controllers and VR headsets. SteamOS is available on several 3rd-party handhelds. What more do you need for "steam compatible hardware"?
- hatsunearu 5mo agoValve wasn't always like this. They were infamous for never allowing refunds, but due to EU regulations they just did a complete about face and has one of the friendliest refund policies in the ESD business. Probably just behind Costco or something.
- legitster 5mo agoThe introduction of the refund made them get rid of their deep discounted flash sales though. Real OGs remember that you could get fairly new AAA games for a song on, like, a random Wednesday. It was part of the initial appeal of Steam. Those explicitly went away because of the refund policy. https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/4pnd4p/psa_yes_there_are_no_more_flash_sales_or_daily/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/4pnd4p/psa_yes_there... (People were really upset at the time) Their new refund policy is great, but it wasn't completely free to consumers.
- mghackerlady 5mo agoThey still have absolutely massive sales, they just aren't random anymore. At least personally, I'd prefer having to wait a few months and having a good refund policy over more sales
- legitster 5mo ago50-75% off of AAA games from that year were not uncommon. I don't think the sales have ever really been comparable ever since. There are people who have put together Wayback machine compilations to compare - I just took a look at the 2014 and 2015 deals (refunds were ~ 2015) and there was a remarkable drop-off in the sales and variety of games at deep discount. I think more importantly for Valve though - the daily flash sales were incredibly important to drive engagement and grow their presence. I think the "why didn't Valve offer refunds before" is kind of revisionist. It wasn't clear that refunds were even a necessary component of cheaper digital games at the time.
- lexicality 5mo ago
- 2ndorderthought 5mo agoI love steam. I have a lot of concerns with a lot of the companies shuffling billions around. But not steam. They treat everyone fair. The gambling thing is whack but at least it's not polymarket.
- AmbroseBierce 5mo ago"Your steam controller is yours, unlike your games, which you have no right to resell, or leave them as inheritance when you die"
- CursedSilicon 5mo agoThank God the publishers had nothing to do with those onerous terms in exchange for using Valves storefront! Can only hope that Stop Killing Games is the first shell in winning back our digital rights
- protimewaster 5mo agoI still think it's weird that Valve is viewed as so friendly to gamers when they're probably more responsible for taking away game ownership on PC than any other one company. Prior to Steam, I used to routinely buy used games, give away copies of games I didn't play anymore, etc. Steam basically ruined all of that.
- grumbel 5mo agoPrior to Steam there was StarForce and other copy protection messing up your OS and DVD drives, and plenty of stuff needed online activation as well. Of the last few physical games I bought, none work anymore, Bioshock couldn't be installed due to lack of patch servers last time I tried and Arkham Asylum failed due to GFWL being dead. Even when everything worked, you often had to manually go hunt for patches, sometimes multiple that needed to be installed in the right order, and that might not even be compatible with the localized version of the game you had. Still sucks that used games died and the forced game upgrades that come with Steam have their issues too, but PC gaming was a horrible mess before Steam cleaned that up. Heck, I'd rather rebuy a game on Steam than find out what those vintage DVD copy protection does to a modern Windows. Most PCs don't even have a DVD drive anymore anyway.
- protimewaster 5mo agoThere were definitely issues, but I think that some of those basically extend from Steam and the way it worked. GFWL was Microsoft's competition to Steam, so it just copied Steam (~3 years after a Steam came out) and worked similarly to the way other physical releases worked after Steam became popular. It's true that some of the heavy DRM was an issue back then, but I'm not convinced that's guaranteed to be less of an issue going forward. Steam probably won't live forever, and there are tons of titles on Steam that use Steam DRM, third party DRM, or rely on servers that will kill the game eventually. Just because the lifecycle is longer now doesn't make it less of a mistake than it was previously. My biggest complaint, though, is that the ownership terms simply got shittier with Steam. Many of those old games, even from big, "evil" publishers like EA, explicitly allow license transfers in their EULAs. Steam explicitly forbids transfers.
- fsniper 5mo agoI wish more IT companies were like Valve.
- CursedSilicon 5mo agoValve and Costco are the only two companies I respect anymore Everybody else could stand to take lessons from them
- ZeWaka 5mo agoBoth based in the same area :)
- larrry 5mo agoValve and Panic should be models for software companies
- butterlesstoast 5mo agoIt feels very much written by a team of humans. Here's to hoping I'm not wrong.
- civvv 5mo agoNot sure about their other departments, but at least in March there was no LLM coding in their Source2 & game teams. https://x.com/ZPostFacto/status/2035784300575305895 https://x.com/ZPostFacto/status/2035784300575305895
- Gigachad 5mo agoI wonder if these LinkedIn bros know we can all spot their LLM writing clear as day, and it’s repulsive.
- account42 5mo agoLinkedIn lizards have always communicated in non-mortal language forms even before the AIpocalypse. It's probably part of their secret handshake.
- weezing 5mo agoValve just can't stop winning.
- kaueg 5mo ago[random reflection] saying on their gitlab page instead of git page, is comparable to saying on their AWS website instead of Web page? :P
- dspillett 5mo agoIt isn't entirely tautologous. You could use the extra word to location the information, if for some reason the link in the footnote somehow got lost or wasn't included in the first place.
- adam_patarino 5mo agoSometimes I think Valve is just showing off