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Learn Claude Code by doing, not reading
- yoyohello13 7mo agoPeople will do anything to avoid RTFM.
- DrewADesign 7mo agoMany of the same people probably use LLMs to avoid having to WTFM, so I’m not surprised.
- maxbeech 7mo ago[dead]
- mrtksn 7mo agoAre people again learning a new set of tools? Just tell the AI what you want, if the AI tool doesn't allow that then tell another Ai tool to make you a translation layer that will convert the natural language to the commands etc. What's the point of learning yet another tool?
- cyanydeez 7mo agoI think somewhere between 2016 and 2026 the market realized that programmers _love_ writing tools for themselves and others, and it went full bore into catering to the Bike Shedding economy, and now AI is accelerating this to an absurd degree.
- mrtksn 7mo agoMe too, I love writing tools for myself and end up yak shaving all the time but why there's a tutorial for a machine that understand human language? Just type down your inner monologue and it will do it.
- sidrag22 7mo agohonestly, the biggest reason i deep dove on proper .claude stuff, was because im a cheap ass. I saw someone mention their agents/ that delegates to cheaper models, and figure that was a way I could reign in my own overall usage, and its been true so far. Im sure im one of the very few heavy claude code users that still stubbornly sits on the pro version. It won't be forever, if i land an important contract or job, I'll pretty quickly hop to max or whatever, but for my own usage right now, im getting by. Sure, maybe this stuff isn't crazy relevant 2 years from now, but right now? Giving your agent a clean way to navigate and delegate tasks to keep that context window clean? its 100% vital. edit: hop to max*
- faeyanpiraat 7mo agoI cannot decipher what you mean, have you mixed up the tabs, and wanted to post this somewhere else? The linked site is a pretty good interactive Claude tutorial for beginners.
- mrtksn 7mo agoNope, why would anybody type commands to a machine that does natural language processing? Just tell the thing what you want.
- faeyanpiraat 7mo agoYes, but you gotta learn what is possible. I wouldn't have the thought to say to the machine to compact its context if I didn't know it has context and it can be compacted, right?
- mrtksn 7mo agoGood point, but IMHO the learning material for this should be the basics of LLM.
- rzzzt 7mo agoWhy do I need to tell the machine to compact its context? This feels like homework and/or ceremony.
- thejazzman 7mo agoBecause the machine is a tool and tools use proper and improper usage.
- dsQTbR7Y5mRHnZv 7mo ago"Part of the initial excitement in programming is easy to explain: just the fact that when you tell the computer to do something, it will do it. Unerringly. Forever. Without a complaint. And that’s interesting in itself. But blind obedience on its own, while initially fascinating, obviously does not make for a very likeable companion. What makes programming so engaging is that, while you can make the computer do what you want, you have to figure out how."[0] - [0] https://www.brynmawr.edu/inside/academic-information/departments-programs/computer-science/beauty-programming https://www.brynmawr.edu/inside/academic-information/departm...
- recursive 7mo agoI haven't used Claude, but the problem seems to be not refusal, but cheerful failure. "Sure, I'll help you with that!" And it produces something wrong in obvious and/or subtle ways.
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- npilk 7mo agoStrongly agree with the sentiment, but I'd say if you're familiar with the terminal you may as well just install it and truly 'learn by doing'! I could see this being great for true beginners, but for them it might be nice to have even some more basics to start (how do I open the terminal, what is a command, etc).
- heyethan 7mo ago[flagged]
- grewil2 7mo agoSide note: I don’t know what Anthropic changed but now Claude Code consumes the quota incredibly fast. I have the Max5 plan, and it just consumed about 10% of the session quota in 10 minutes on a single prompt. For $100/month, I have higher expectations.
- maximinus_thrax 7mo agoI'm very surprised to see enshittification starting so early. I was expecting at last 3-4 years of VC subsidized gravy train.
- kderbyma 7mo agoThis has been 6 months of constant decline so at this point I am wondering when they cliff it like wework
- landr0id 7mo agoRelevant: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1s7zgj0/investigating_usage_limits_hitting_faster_than/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1s7zgj0/investiga... https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1s7mkn3/psa_claude_code_has_two_cache_bugs_that_can/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1s7mkn3/psa_claud...
- nixpulvis 7mo agoThis is a serious problem with the fact that it's nearly impossible to understand what a "token" is and how to tame their use in a principled way. It's like if cars didn't advertise MPG, but instead something that could change randomly.
- uoaei 7mo agoLike if cars measured fuel efficiency or range using the knobs in the tread on your tire.
- amitprasad 7mo ago
- Yiin 7mo agofind your level -> answer D to everything -> you're a beginner! And I thought I have high standards...
- nickphx 7mo agoWhy wpuld anyone want to "learn" how to use some non-deterministic black box of bullshit that is frequently wrong? When you get different output fkr the same input, how do you learn? How is that beneficial? Why would you waste your time learning something that is frequently changing at the whims of some greedy third party? No thanks.
- ForHackernews 7mo agoBecause you will soon be working for it unless you learn to make it work for you.
- i_love_retros 7mo agoIt's fucking insane that we all have to pay rent every month to an AI company just to keep doing our jobs.
- HDBaseT 7mo ago[dead]
- nice_byte 7mo agoyou literally don't have to. you can literally just keep doing your job the way that you always have.
- i_love_retros 7mo agoI probably won't have a job for much longer if I do that, unfortunately
- nice_byte 7mo agoI don't think that is true.
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- MeetingsBrowser 7mo agoI use claude code every day, I've written plugins and skills, use MCP servers, subagent workflows, and filled out the "Find your level" quiz as such. According to the quiz, I am a beginner!
- Esophagus4 7mo agoDid anyone not get beginner? I got it as well.
- the_other 7mo agoI'm a beginner with agentic coding. I vibe code something most days, from a few lines up to refactors over a few files. I don't knowingly use skills, rarely _choose_ to call out to tools, haven't written any skills and only one or two ad hoc scripts, and have barely touched MCPs (because the few I've used seem flaky and erratic). I answered as such and got... intermediate.
- Uncorrelated 7mo agoI responded with a mix of mostly B and C answers and got “advanced.” Yet, as pointed out by another commenter, selecting all D answers (which would make you an expert!) gets you called a beginner. I can only assume the quiz itself was vibe-coded and not tested. What an incredible time we live in.
- taftster 7mo agoOr that it's taking into account the Dunning-Kruger effect. In that, if you think you are an expert in all cases, you are really a beginner in everything.
- BloondAndDoom 7mo agoI think it’s just buggy, I had the same results despite of knowing every single question in depth other than building a plugin.
- annie511266728 7mo ago
- jurakovic 7mo agoIs that quiz correct? I have answered mostly C or D and maybe a few of B, but still got "Beginner". How?!
- roxolotl 7mo agoThe quiz is super weird too. They A-C are knowledge questions D is something you’ve done.
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- nixpulvis 7mo agoI think it's funny and interesting how LLMs are commoditizing information generation. It's completely expected, but also somewhat challenging to figure out what the best combination of "learning" "fact" systems is. I'd be curious to know more about how this compares to other approaches.
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- jatora 7mo agoAI comment.
- fercircularbuf 7mo agoI love the pedagogical approach here and the ability to easily hone in on your level before diving into content. Your approach would work really well for other subjects as well.
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- htx80nerd 7mo agoI continue to find the non-stop claude spam fascinating. Gemini and ChatGPT have been very good for my needs, Claude not so much. Every week, if not every day, Claude spam is all over this site. But barely a peep about Gemini or ChatGPT coding capabilities.
- ekropotin 7mo agoThat’s good to know your personal preferences. Please keep us posted!
- htx80nerd 7mo agoI started with Claude for a basic JS project. It failed over and over. Gemini sorted out the same problems faster. Claude was always wanting to rip out huge blocks of code and replace them. Did it fix the problem? Almost never. It was a small JS code base Claude made itself. Claude was my first coding AI, I liked it, I wanted to use it. But when I ran out of tokens I went to Gemini and got way better results. And now every day I see Claude spam like it's the best thing that ever happened. Real world use tells a different story. I didnt just "one off" try it and have a problem. This is week and weeks of issues. Claude fails basic questions when given very clear prompts - ON VANILLA JAVASCRIPT.
- 8b16380d 7mo agoTool de jour, similar to web framework of the month etc. Gemini and ChatGPT are just as useful
- MeetRickAI 7mo ago[dead]
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- b212 7mo agoI feel there’s a lot of marketing and pure bullshit around LLMs configuration and conventions. Law of diminishing returns applies here perfectly - you can learn prompting in 2 hours and get 400% performance boost or spend weeks on subagents and skills and Opus and st best it’s another 50% boost but not really - in my case in a good day Sonnet is a genius and on a bad one Opus is an moron. One day the same query consumes 6k tokens, the next 700k. They want to get you hooked and need to show investors they’re super busy but in fact it’s mostly smoke and mirrors. And prompting, once you learn to give proper context, is far from rocket science.
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- tourist_petr98 7mo agoThis is awesome, thanks for sharing!
- AugSun 7mo agoNo. 100% no. Learn the art of programming. Read K&R. In 5 years we will see "new is old" again. Tokens will become prohibitively expensive and, once more, another $steve.ballmer.2.0 will be yelling "developers ... developers". And Claude Code ... will become another "pentesting" / "linting" tool.
- sta1n 7mo ago[dead]
- theptip 7mo agoI’m missing something here. Isn’t the best “doing” to actually use Claude to build stuff? The barrier to entry is so low. Why do you need to memorize slash commands? They are somewhat useful and you can just read them from the autocomplete.
- deemeng 7mo agothank you to OP -- this was a really easy way to look up how plugins inside of the claude code
- wetpaws 7mo ago[dead]
- alsetmusic 7mo agoDespite reading many articles / blog posts about Claude operation, this site had nuance about features that I hadn't encountered. Tests may not work correctly, but the value (for me) was, ironically, reading.