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I don’t understand how this isn’t an immediate open and shut case for the police, assuming certain facts are verified independently. At the point that you’re m

I don’t understand how this isn’t an immediate open and shut case for the police, assuming certain facts are verified independently. At the point that you’re making death threats to strangers you should be removed from civil society.

pjc50 7mo ago
If the gamblers are outwith Israel, there's not a lot the Israeli police can do. They're not going to go full Operation 'Wrath of God' for this guy.
ryan_j_naughton 7mo ago
I agree. This involved should be investigated and prosecuted. Just a pedantic, nit pick: you said "should be removed from civil society" but I think you just mean "removed from society" as in prosecuted and imprisoned. "Civil society" has a specific meaning: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_society https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_society
- bitmasher9 7mo ago
  Thanks. I’m not trained as a lawyer so sometimes make these types of mistakes. I’m happy to learn.
- baobabKoodaa 7mo ago
  > I agree. This involved should be investigated and prosecuted. Cool! Since you know who the involved persons are (as you agreed with it being an "open and shut case"), why don't you let the rest of us know, too? And while you're at it, tell the police as well. I'm sure it will help their investigation!
TheDong 7mo ago
Yeah, but how do you find the person making the threats? Polymarket accounts are more-or-less just a crypto address. Whatsapp accounts are somewhat easier to link to a real identity, but still not hard to at least obscure a bit. The arm of the law struggles to reach across borders, and on the internet, it's quite plausible all those involved are in different jurisdictions.
- xvector 7mo ago
  Polymarket's founder is Shayne Coplan, 27-year old "youngest self-made billionaire" (why do all billionaires seem devoid of ethics?) A sane system would just throw him in jail until his illegal betting market implements KYC.
  - cucumber3732842 7mo ago
    >A sane system would just throw him in jail. <facepalm> A capricious system that interprets based on whim, politics and influence is a large part of how we got here. People like this and their less than moral path in which they further their endeavors succeed specifically because of this environment. Polymarket is basically a platform to monetize petty stuff while also being able to monetize bad stuff. There is soooo much pressure to monetize bad stuff that once you poke a hole it's an uncontrolled leak. Polymarket recognized this, used it to scale, and then wisely used that money to get the legitimization and buy in that they needed to make the system (capriciously) say "this is fine for now you can keep going". They basically pulled a "actually Mr. Banker, I owe you so much money that it's your problem" but for insider information. The other metaphor you could use if people with a steady supply of prescription opioids don't turn to street drugs.
    - nickspacek 7mo ago
      There's probably a useful middle ground between tossing people in jail and rewarding with great wealth, power, and influence those people whose main drive appears to be accumulation of said things without regard for their fellow citizens.
    - xvector 7mo ago
      It is not capricious to hold C-suite legally accountable for their choices. Lots of corporate scandals would simply not have happened if decisionmakers had skin in the game. If CISOs can have personal liability for data breaches, CEOs can have personal liability for intentionally creating an illegal platform. Instead we reward these people with billions for degrading the fabric of society.
echoangle 7mo ago
It’s probably an open and shut case regarding being illegal but prosecution could be hard. How are you going to find the person?
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 7mo ago
  I don't like that the internet can be used to harm you without any recourse.
- breppp 7mo ago
  The Israeli police can contact Google, Meta, etc and get the user details. The question is whether they deem this case important enough, this is a journalist so there is a higher chance but I don't think this specific journalist carry a lot of weight locally
wmil 7mo ago
Reporters for The Times of Israel get a lot of death threats. I doubt this was the author's first one. So it's common and hard to prosecute because the person threatening is most likely in another country.
- Pay08 7mo ago
  Especially since a lot of the quotes in the article sound like Google-translated Hebrew.
- maybelsyrup 7mo ago
  Honestly this behavior is pretty representative of the place, in my experience.
AngryData 7mo ago
US cops don't care about solving crimes or making people safe, they only care about making a profit. And harassing random motorists on the side of the road is way easier and safer profits than trying to deal with real crime involving people with money that can afford their own lawyers to fight back.
- mikkupikku 7mo ago
  US cops? It's Israel.
arnvald 7mo ago
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pjc50 7mo ago

If the gamblers are outwith Israel, there's not a lot the Israeli police can do. They're not going to go full Operation 'Wrath of God' for this guy.

ryan_j_naughton 7mo ago

I agree. This involved should be investigated and prosecuted. Just a pedantic, nit pick: you said "should be removed from civil society" but I think you just mean "removed from society" as in prosecuted and imprisoned. "Civil society" has a specific meaning: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_society https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_society

bitmasher9 7mo ago
Thanks. I’m not trained as a lawyer so sometimes make these types of mistakes. I’m happy to learn.
baobabKoodaa 7mo ago
> I agree. This involved should be investigated and prosecuted. Cool! Since you know who the involved persons are (as you agreed with it being an "open and shut case"), why don't you let the rest of us know, too? And while you're at it, tell the police as well. I'm sure it will help their investigation!

TheDong 7mo ago

Yeah, but how do you find the person making the threats? Polymarket accounts are more-or-less just a crypto address. Whatsapp accounts are somewhat easier to link to a real identity, but still not hard to at least obscure a bit. The arm of the law struggles to reach across borders, and on the internet, it's quite plausible all those involved are in different jurisdictions.

xvector 7mo ago
Polymarket's founder is Shayne Coplan, 27-year old "youngest self-made billionaire" (why do all billionaires seem devoid of ethics?) A sane system would just throw him in jail until his illegal betting market implements KYC.
- cucumber3732842 7mo ago
  >A sane system would just throw him in jail. <facepalm> A capricious system that interprets based on whim, politics and influence is a large part of how we got here. People like this and their less than moral path in which they further their endeavors succeed specifically because of this environment. Polymarket is basically a platform to monetize petty stuff while also being able to monetize bad stuff. There is soooo much pressure to monetize bad stuff that once you poke a hole it's an uncontrolled leak. Polymarket recognized this, used it to scale, and then wisely used that money to get the legitimization and buy in that they needed to make the system (capriciously) say "this is fine for now you can keep going". They basically pulled a "actually Mr. Banker, I owe you so much money that it's your problem" but for insider information. The other metaphor you could use if people with a steady supply of prescription opioids don't turn to street drugs.
  - nickspacek 7mo ago
    There's probably a useful middle ground between tossing people in jail and rewarding with great wealth, power, and influence those people whose main drive appears to be accumulation of said things without regard for their fellow citizens.
  - xvector 7mo ago
    It is not capricious to hold C-suite legally accountable for their choices. Lots of corporate scandals would simply not have happened if decisionmakers had skin in the game. If CISOs can have personal liability for data breaches, CEOs can have personal liability for intentionally creating an illegal platform. Instead we reward these people with billions for degrading the fabric of society.

echoangle 7mo ago

It’s probably an open and shut case regarding being illegal but prosecution could be hard. How are you going to find the person?

2OEH8eoCRo0 7mo ago
I don't like that the internet can be used to harm you without any recourse.
breppp 7mo ago
The Israeli police can contact Google, Meta, etc and get the user details. The question is whether they deem this case important enough, this is a journalist so there is a higher chance but I don't think this specific journalist carry a lot of weight locally

wmil 7mo ago

Reporters for The Times of Israel get a lot of death threats. I doubt this was the author's first one. So it's common and hard to prosecute because the person threatening is most likely in another country.

Pay08 7mo ago
Especially since a lot of the quotes in the article sound like Google-translated Hebrew.
maybelsyrup 7mo ago
Honestly this behavior is pretty representative of the place, in my experience.

AngryData 7mo ago

US cops don't care about solving crimes or making people safe, they only care about making a profit. And harassing random motorists on the side of the road is way easier and safer profits than trying to deal with real crime involving people with money that can afford their own lawyers to fight back.

mikkupikku 7mo ago
US cops? It's Israel.

arnvald 7mo ago

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