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OpenAI reaches deal to deploy AI models on U.S. DoW classified network
- stopbulying 7mo agoOpenAI was founded as an ethical AI research nonprofit organization.
- stopbulying 7mo agoIs Trump still goading OpenAI into transferring SOTA AI to middle eastern countries that do not regard Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion as values and rights?
- NBJack 7mo agoI'm not sure anyone at the company can say that with a straight face anymore.
- tombert 7mo agoI agree, though aren't they planning on doing an IPO later this year?
- chiararvtk 7mo agohuman responsibility for the use of force So, use but if goes wrong, someone needs to be responsible. Aaaand we know that works very well
- rasz 7mo agohttps://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/us-military-used-laser-take-border-protection-drone-lawmakers-say-rcna260887 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/us-military-used-laser... AI told me it was a Mexican drone, not a regular Delta El Paso flight
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- ChrisArchitect 7mo agoSource: https://x.com/sama/status/2027578652477821175 https://x.com/sama/status/2027578652477821175 (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47189650 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47189650)
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- techblueberry 7mo ago"AI safety and wide distribution of benefits are the core of our mission. Two of our most important safety principles are prohibitions on domestic mass surveillance and human responsibility for the use of force, including for autonomous weapon systems. The DoW agrees with these principles, reflects them in law and policy, and we put them into our agreement." So wait a second, the DoW let OpeAI put the exact same clauses in their contract, but Anthropic is a supply chain risk? What is going on?
- yoyohello13 7mo agoThe difference is how much money each CEO has contributed to Trump’s campaign.
- benny20twenty 7mo ago[dead]
- smackeyacky 7mo agoOr how much crypto they bought. The grifts with this administration know no depths.
- d--b 7mo agoWhat do you think could be going, seriously? Obviously Altman agreed to whatever they asked him and is lying that the DoW is cool about the red lines.
- neya 7mo agoI get the feeling they didn't like Anthropic from the start for whatever reason and just found excuses to dump them and find an alternative provider. There's also the possibility the DoW will still have its way and this is possibly only a statement for the public. P.S I'm not political (no left/right drama), just speculative.
- LarsDu88 7mo agoThe question is why was it so urgent to bring this up right now. The answer is that the US Navy has carrier battle groups stationed off the coast of Iran right now. US F22 fighter jets have been spotted on Israeli airfields by Chinese commercial satellites in the past 3 days. A full scale strike on Iran is imminent and they want to leverage LLMs for data analysis and quite possibly automated target selection. Literally the SkyNet scenario both researchers and frickin pop culture have warned about for years.
- allovertheworld 7mo agoskynet speedrun
- rustystump 7mo agoAll the ai gov drama is a giant shrug to me. The reality is uncle sam has all the power and whatever comes out of industry sam is gonna sam with just like any other gov. Ethics dont exist on the global stage. The privacy ship sailed decades ago. It all looks performative to me across all sides. The smart move is to side with gov using some hand wave jutsi about “we have a contract” to get access to sams big nuts. Sam aint gonna respect no contract regardless of what is in. He breaks all laws without consequence for the last 60 odd years. Unless people start starving, no revolution is gonna change the status quo here. It is like 9D marketing/branding chess for ai companies
- SpicyLemonZest 7mo agoI'd really like you to understand that saying this kind of thing means you're taking the government's side, even if you do it with cool ironic undertones. I'm religious enough that I'm particularly sensitive to this dynamic - there's a lot of pastors out there who talk about how we live in a fallen world as an excuse for why we don't need to bother opposing some particular injustice.
- rustystump 7mo agoNo. That is not true. The whole, if u are not against them ur for them, argument scares me as so much more bad comes from it. I am honest. I remember all the crypto validators buckling to sam when pressure came over sanctions. Same happened back with land lines, cell networks, and now AI too. All governments do this. I dont like it. I dont want it. I vote against it. And it still happens. So i shrug as once again the same thing happens.
- m3kw9 7mo agoYou guys think American shouldn’t use AI in military at all isn’t understanding their counter party is absolutely all in on AI in theirs
- behringer 7mo agoWe don't want to support Ai under Trump. We don't even want a department of war.
- djdndbdnfd 7mo agoNobody is complaining about the government not giving Anthropic a contract. It’s about the unprecedented and outrageous threats to destroy their business if they don’t provide the government with what they demand. There is no national supply risk from Boeing using Claud Code just beacause Anthropic won’t agree to domestically-surviving killbots. The government’s behaviour is overwhelmingly malevolent and terrifying.
- jkaplowitz 7mo agoNobody was advocating for zero AI in the military - certainly not Anthropic. They were fine with all lawful US military use cases except for two: the mass domestic surveillance of Americans and fully autonomous weapons. Whether you agree or disagree with their particular red lines, that's quite far from them trying to keep their product out of the military.
- kristopolous 7mo ago
- chkaloon 7mo agoThey know Sam has few scruples and will go for the money if the DoW says jump. These clauses mean zilch if Sam is involved
- petterroea 7mo agoThat was fast
- ismyrnow 7mo agoI suspect that Anthropic wanted the govt to ensure they would not use Claude for mass surveillance or autonomous weapons even if it does become legal in the future. OpenAI was comfortable with the agreement because it's currently illegal and they can make a public statement that they still side with Anthropic on the ethics side. I also believe that Anthropic's CEO just didn't get along with the DoW in negotiations. So much of these big contracts comes down to relationships. Still pretty sleazy how the govt is being so aggressive about it. I wish they would have just denied the contract and picked another vendor.
- xvector 7mo agoThis feels kind of like a masterclass in negotiation. I suspect Dario just didn't get along with the DoW. Sam comes in, takes Anthropic's place, gets the same concessions. Hell, this may open a path for Anthropic to survive. Everyone can save face if the Pentagon says "we got Anthropic to agree to the same terms as OpenAI" and Anthropic gets their guardrails anyways. On the other hand it's equally likely that the government just destroys Anthropic regardless because they don't like it anymore (and it dared to disagree in public.)
- kristopolous 7mo agoJust canceled my subscription and added their domain as 127.0.0.1 to my /etc/hosts. We too have a voice here. Do Not voluntarily fund the robot army.
- kivle 7mo agoI just cancelled as well. Time to test out the competition that have some morals left.
- mnky9800n 7mo agoSomething tells me that this was all predetermined prior to hegseth throwing a fit. That was just bullshit theatre to justify government handouts I’m to OpenAI. I dunno. I don’t make the decisions.
- othersidejann 7mo agoThere's a rumor floating around that says basically, Amodei said "call us and we'll see" to a clear cut missile defense scenario. Perhaps the context of this is some part of the negotiations that we're not privy to. And might be where OAI and Anthropic differ, without any of them admitting it publicly.
- idobaiba 7mo ago[dead]