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Sorry we (the U.S.) are like this. Many of us have been furious for decades but don't know what to do.
by _moof 9mo ago
Sorry we (the U.S.) are like this. Many of us have been furious for decades but don't know what to do.
- neoromantique 9mo agoGetting rid if dictators is good, actually.
- refulgentis 9mo agoYes - is there a bit more going on? Or, is reducing it to “dictator bad; gone good” unobvious, and something that slipped by everyone? To wit: we’re in a thread for the top comment for a 3844 comment post, and that comment is noting that when there’s a power vacuum, things usually* get worse for the citizenry. * nigh universally
- AlexCoventry 9mo agoIf it had been about taking out dictators, they were kind of spoiled for choice in that regard. They could have picked an easier one, or at least one which made strategic sense in some way. https://chatgpt.com/share/695a2613-97e8-800e-b2e4-28fc7707f293 https://chatgpt.com/share/695a2613-97e8-800e-b2e4-28fc7707f2...
- motbus3 9mo agoIs it getting rid of it or changing for another one?
- pojzon 9mo agoIf you look at what happened to EU or north Africa after death of Kaddafi or Hussain: No, it was a terrible outcome. US stold gold and oil while the rest of the world had to cope with the aftermath. US and Izrael are notoriously breaking international laws, both countries are ruled by criminals.
- crystal_revenge 9mo agoBut, we also still enjoy all of the benefits of being like this. Cheap oil(that impacts you even if you don't drive), globally very high income, resources of all varieties from all over the world, relative security etc. All these things don't happen to use because we're a nation of swell people. They happen because we do awful things to people around the world in a variety of ways in order to maintain our way of life. The truth is Americans do want this, they just don't like that they want this. Another comment was discussing how shocked they were with how brazen a move this was for oil, and that in the past the government wouldn't have been so honest. As though the issue were being honest with what we are doing.
- bigthymer 9mo ago> The truth is Americans do want this I'm not so sure. Sure, they want the benefits that are provided. However, if being aware of what the costs are to get those benefits apriori, I'm not sure Americans would think the exchange worthwhile.
- tdeck 9mo agoWhile that might certainly be true in the abstract, it isn't worth much. Most people would probably eat less meat if they knew exactly what was happening to the animals in that process. We'd eat less chocolate if we really thought about the slavery in the chocolate supply chain. We'd not buy certain products because of the environmental impact and working conditions. But instead we just mostly deliberately avoid learning and thinking about those things. And I count myself as well. The incentives all push Americans to be OK with this.
- tekknik 9mo agoI think you and your parent think that people have more of a concern of others than actual reality. Most americans walk past homeless people and think nothing of it. Most americans, and certainly those in wealthy cities, care about others at a superficial level. For instance you and your parent complain, and that’s where it ends. You will not sacrifice yourself or your life for others, asking others to is just negligent.
- seivan 9mo ago[dead]
- vmax 9mo agoAs someone originally from a country that would have benefitted from a similar intervention, I wish the U.S. were more like this.
- hestefisk 9mo agoNot respecting international law?
- stodor89 9mo agoPeople in Venezuela and Iran have more pressing concerns than international law.
- vmax 9mo agoBesides being a fiction very much supported by dictators, international law is a delusion entertained by (a) those who have never lived under a dictatorship and (b) those oblivious to the fact that their freedoms and peace depend on the protection of the world’s most powerful military.
- badpun 9mo agoThat’s assuming Venezuela does not turn into a civil war, or the American-installed dictator will not be as bad as Maduro.
- Slava_Propanei 9mo ago[dead]