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Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

569 points by weslly 14y ago

wickedchicken 14y ago
A lot of people here are commenting on GitHub being 'overpriced' or 'greedy.' TPW did an interview a while ago that has insight into why their pricing structure is the way it is. It's a pretty interesting read: http://mixergy.com/tom-preston-werner-github-interview/ http://mixergy.com/tom-preston-werner-github-interview/ (search for 'which metrics') to skip to the pricing part). Money quote: "That’s like buying a car based on how much it weighs. It’s irrelevant." I may be biased since GitHub does a lot to foster the developer community in my area (I nabbed a sweet contracting gig at one of their drinkups), but I'm perfectly happy with their pricing.
- __alexs 14y ago
  > Money quote: "That’s like buying a car based on how much it weighs. It’s irrelevant." Car manufacturers are constantly going on about how the latest model weighs X% less than last years. Lower weight usually means better handling and a more fun driving experience...
  - nine_k 14y ago
    Owners of SUVs and off-road cars might disagree.
dkhenry 14y ago
I know its not the elephant in the managed source code hosting space, but I like BitBucket better then Github. I like the option to use Mercerial for projects and I like the way they ask me to pay for things ( pay for private shared repositories ).
- ericcholis 14y ago
  I like http://beanstalkapp.com/ http://beanstalkapp.com/ myself, pretty comparable to BitBucket.
  - lysol 14y ago
    We use beanstalk at work. Gets the job done, but not nearly as nice as Github or Bitbucket, and there are times page loads are pretty slow.
    - masklinn 14y ago
      > and there are times page loads are pretty slow. Then again, Github and Bitbucket routinely have the same issue as far as my experiences go (I mostly use Bitbucket, but routinely interact with github due to the project on there)
  - scribu 14y ago
    We switched over from Beanstalk to Github a few months ago. Beanstalk's web interface had fewer features and, more worryingly, it just failed to display changesets quite often (was also down for maintenance relatively frequently).
- Osiris 14y ago
  Also, BitBucket's free plan allows for unlimited public and private repositories, while GitHub only allows for public repositories on the free version. I use BitBucket for a number of side-projects mostly as a way to make sure all my code is backed up off-site, for free.
- citricsquid 14y ago
  I like BitBucket better then Github. That should be than. Then is an order of operations type deal, eg: I read the new BitBucket blog post and *then* I signed up whereas than is things like greater than, less than, it's for comparisons. http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/difficulties/thanthen.html http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/difficulties/thanthen.h...
  - zaroth 14y ago
    So off topic, but... Has anyone ever tried to implement a 'crowd-correct' feature where a reader could do something like correct "then->than", and if enough users made the same correction (a couple high-rep users, or more low-rep users) it would stick. I supposed the biggest challenge would be user abuse -- changing even just one word can completely change the meaning of a comment, and yet the comment would still be attributed to the OP. You would need, at least, a flag to indicate the post had been 'crowd-corrected', and perhaps a way for the OP to revert & lock their comment. Another thought is use Google's auto-complete API, if you pass it the string "better then Github" it returns "better than Guthub". I find simply running a Google search on a phrase is often the best way to auto-correct it.
    - citricsquid 14y ago
      This sounds like a really great idea, I think the simplest way that would avoid abuse is if fixes were sent to the user so they could change it, but instead of needing to edit the comment manually (copy change -> remove old -> paste) they can view a diff and either "accept" or "reject". It wouldn't be perfect but it would be better than people needing to reply (like I did).
      - sneak 14y ago
        This works well for non-realtime stuff (e.g. this is how OKCupid does crowdsourced profile edits), but in this instance dkhenry may not see these suggestions for some time (and, in your proposed solution, have an item sitting in the edit queue for approval), while hundreds of people are getting distracted by his typo in the meantime. You have to be very careful, though, because there may be legal (and definitely social) ramifications for changing a user's submitted content without consent. I know it absolutely enrages me when Flickr auto-lowercases an all caps comment I try to post. ("lazer cat!@!" doesn't have quite the same oomph as "LAZER CAT!@!")
astrodust 14y ago
That's certainly a big a step in the right direction.
factorialboy 14y ago
I like it. Much better than the previous experience, and didn't try to blindly copy GitHub's designs.
eblume 14y ago
I'm having trouble thinking of reasons why bitbucket is used so much less than github - or at least why it seems that way. It's looking pretty damn good to me right now!
- bvdbijl 14y ago
  Well, Github's UI used to be much better, now it's comparable. I do wonder why Bitbucket insists on having "overview" as the standard page to go to when visiting a repository, making Code the default would be a better idea IMHO. Also because more people use Github, more people are likely to start using it so they can fork their favorite projects
  - bryanlarsen 14y ago
    To me it makes a lot more sense: 1) not all users are coders. For instance Sourceforge assumes that people will be most interested in downloading a binary. Not a bad assumption for its time, and still its primary usage. Github often the top google link for a project, and would be intimidating for somebody who just wants to download and use a Windows app. 2) If I'm interested in something, I take a look at the README, code, issues & wiki. So code as one of many rather than front and center is not necessarily correct. But once I've started using something, I've already got the code and am much more interested in everything else.
  - Kudos 14y ago
    You can optionally change the landing page to show the code instead.
    - bvdbijl 14y ago
      I know, it's just that the default is overview
    - wilmoore 14y ago
      There is something to be said for sane defaults. That being said, if the target audience is not developers, then perhaps this is a sane default. I think Bitbucket is pretty good; however, I personally prefer Github as it caters to my tastes much more.
masklinn 14y ago
Switching markup from Creole to Markdown is very good news, and the preview being back in e.g. issues comments is a good thing as well. Though I'd prefer the preview to be live... The readme taking center stage in the "overview" page is nice. Though getting it again in the "source" page is weird
bryanh 14y ago
For a while I was a bit worried that GitHub had just ran away with the prize and no one else was bothering. It is pretty obvious that Google isn't interested in improving Google Code and that Sourceforge hasn't aged a day (that's not really fair, but it feels like it). I think there is still a chance for BitBucket to make a splash, but I think its going to be hard to win anymore. That's fine, 2nd place makes a lot of money too (not counting places 1-10 for enterprise source control, which basically print money, and of which GitHub is chasing too).
- pimentel 14y ago
  > (not counting places 1-10 for enterprise source control, which basically print money, and of which GitHub is chasing too). What kind of source control do big corps use? Don't they just use SVN, with enormous budget for maintenance contracts?
  - robgough 14y ago
    Perforce and TFS (Team Foundation Server) are other choices that I've seen used in large corps. (TFS obviously for Microsoft houses only.)
- wahnfrieden 14y ago
  Google is working on a new Google Code overhaul which is supposed to be quite different.
  - bvdbijl 14y ago
    Source?
    - parfe 14y ago
      Yep. That's pretty much the focus of google code.
      - imderek 14y ago
sshconnection 14y ago
I generally version all the things, and end up with lots of small private repos. Bitbucket's pricing model is perfect for hosting that kind of thing. Really liking the new UI.
- meritt 14y ago
  Any particular reason you don't just tag versions instead of creating new repos?
  - debacle 14y ago
    I think he means he has a lot of small projects.
  - sshconnection 14y ago
    I often init new repos even if its a single file script. Github pricing is per private repository, but Bitbucket has free unlimited private repositories so I can just push them all up.
thomasvendetta 14y ago
To the bitbucket team: Please keep on doing what you are doing. Your service and this new redesign is awesome, and my team and myself wouldn't be where we are without you. We're a small team of young developers working on a startup for the past few months. We haven't launched yet so we're obviously not profitable, but the fact that you've enabled us to make it as far as we have also ensures that when we are in a position to pay for software development tools they will come from a brand we know, trust, and love: Atlassian. Also, you should update the Atlassian Store with t-shirts and other swag. Once again, great job, thank you, and keep on keepin' on.
- jespern 14y ago
  We certainly appreciate that, and I personally remember the days of being a small startup. You're in for a wild ride, enjoy it! :)
- jstepka 14y ago
  > Also, you should update the Atlassian Store with t-shirts and other swag. Launching a t-shirt store in three weeks.
  - john2x 14y ago
    Cool. Let me know when it's up. ;) Will it have Atlassian related designs? Or Git/Hg/etc. related ones?
    - jstepka 14y ago
      We will have Bitbucket t-shits, Spooning t-shirts (https://bitbucket.org/spooning/ https://bitbucket.org/spooning/) and other Atlassian gear. We will make a posting on our blog about it.
- LordIllidan 14y ago
  I agree 100%. Github is superb for public projects, but for private projects it is overpriced.
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hamrickdavid 14y ago
This is great. I continue to use bitbucket for all of my personal repos since they provide unlimited private repos for free. I would use github for my private repos but I have lot's of small repos that make private github cost prohibitive.
tharris0101 14y ago
I host all of my private stuff on Bitbucket. I love this new redesign. Its a good way to differentiate themselves from github.
Breakthrough 14y ago
Awesome, I think this just heavily strengthened the future of Mercurial. I'm not trying to start any version control wars here, but personally, I found Mercurial to be the most "intuitive" approach (unlike Git/SVN, but again, that's my opinion). I've extensively used Bitbucket in the past, especially for personal projects. I love what I see here, and will continue to use the service as such. Long live Bitbucket! :)
reiz 14y ago
I'm using both. GitHub and BitBucket. But actually I like BitBuckets UI more. For me it is a little bit more intuitiv.
croddin 14y ago
This interface looks great. I suggest that the landing page have several ways to get to prominent open source projects hosted on Bitbucket so people can easily see the live interface before signing up.
erichocean 14y ago
Yay! Github's UI has been slowly getting worse over the last year, and their paid account options are terrible (limits on the number of private repositories, as opposed to the disk space). I've been a paying company for years and years, but I recently scaled back from four paying accounts to one. I don't want to have to organize my private git repositories around GitHub's idiotic account restrictions, so I'm going to give BitBucket a try with some personal repos and see if the UI works for me. If it does, you've got a new customer. :D
Todd 14y ago
The design is very clean and appealing. I'm glad to see they're still investing significant effort. I want to see Bitbucket get more visibility and success. I prefer Mercurial. Among other things, it has better cross platform support. Bitbucket added Git a while ago. I wish Github would add Mercurial. Bitbucket also offers unlimited private repos. That means I only use Github for OSS projects. I use Bitbucket for everthing else. Consequently, I always recommend them to friends and companies looking for hosted repos.
- merijnv 14y ago
  Have you tried hg-git? I've been using it as my sole way of interacting (well, other than the web interface) with GitHub and I haven't run into any showstoppers.
  - cutie 14y ago
    I tried it and it blew up, complaining about "bookmarks." Couldn't commit and/or push, never figured it out.
    - masklinn 14y ago
      I'm guessing it wanted you to enable the "bookmarks" extension: I believe hg-git maps git branches to hg bookmarks. edit: the "installing" section of http://hg-git.github.com/ http://hg-git.github.com/ confirms it.
      - noidi 14y ago
        Note that the installation instructions on that site are completely out of date. You don't need a C compiler anymore, just clone the repo and enable the extension, as described in the README: https://bitbucket.org/durin42/hg-git https://bitbucket.org/durin42/hg-git
  - Todd 14y ago
    I haven't. I'll check it out. Thanks for the rec.
SwearWord 14y ago
All my dreams are coming true. Great work guys.
duiker101 14y ago
I just found out that bitbucket has unlimited private repos. That's one HUGE point for them on Github.
- axusgrad 14y ago
  It looks like the limits are by number of users, which seems fairer. But they will probably make less money. I thought most of the projects on github were <5 people.
  - tensor 14y ago
    Not necessarily. 1) People on github paid plans might switch. Thus github will make less and bitbucket more. 2) People who don't use github due to cost might sign up for paid bitbucket plans.
  - LordIllidan 14y ago
    It depends. I can see a lot of scope for small companies starting on Bitbucket to take advantage of the low costs, and then buying the larger plans as they expand.
markmm 14y ago
I love bitbucket, unlimited private repos is great for start-ups. I have scripts for creating repos thanks to their api.
MartinMond 14y ago
The redesigned commits view is 100 times better than Github's ever was. http://cl.ly/image/300S2R3q2x0N http://cl.ly/image/300S2R3q2x0N So much more info, and even a graph like in gitx.
- Breakthrough 14y ago
  ...they didn't change/redesign anything on the commit view. The commit page on Bitbucket has always always looked that for as long as I can remember (been using it for a year or two now). Also, I recall having the ability to diff. files before the new upgrade as well, although not side-by-side as they mention in the linked article.
  - jespern 14y ago
    We've had side-by-side diffing for about a year. What the redesign has (apparently) done, is bring forth those features, as we're seeing more and more people discover them today.
jashkenas 14y ago
Lovely work. From peeping the source, looks like an interesting hybrid use of Backbone.js as well. If you're interested in getting the new Bitbucket listed on the Backbone homepage, just email me a brief paragraph, and I can set it up.
- nicolasv 14y ago
  Thanks, Jeremy, and thanks for the offer. I'll be in touch with a paragraph for Bitbucket.
pessimism 14y ago
The new design is really great and in many ways better than GitHub’s. Now people unfamiliar with the services might actually be able to find a download button for once. Another place where GitHub is really dropping the ball is in the social aspect of their service with terrible activity feeds I can’t believe anyone actually uses. I wrote a rant about it here: http://pygm.us/uGhNdcGU http://pygm.us/uGhNdcGU. There are many, many ways Bitbucket can beat—and beats—GitHub, so this new design makes me a lot more optimistic about the continuing competition between the two and the improvements this will result in on both sides. I will say that I’m not sure whether I like a grey as dark as the one you use in your new design, though. :)
- cutie 14y ago
  Do you mean that you wish they followed the fad of unreadable light grey on white text? No thanks. ;)
  - pessimism 14y ago
    I just think the chosen background colour is a little too dark. Something about the colour (#F5F5F5?) is off to me.
    - cutie 14y ago
      Oh, well, that's very close to white. 96% white as a matter of fact, after checking in gimp. It needs to be at least a few percent to be noticeable as different by they eye. Perhaps you should up the brightness on your monitor?
habosa 14y ago
Am I the only one who thinks it looks exactly like Github?
- emddudley 14y ago
  Not exactly the same, but they copied a lot from GitHub.
  - takluyver 14y ago
    And to my mind, that's just fine. Github gets a lot of stuff right, so making it similar makes sense. The differences are significant enough that you couldn't mistake one for the other.
- mratzloff 14y ago
  It looks just like it. If GitHub were Apple, they would be preparing a lawsuit over trade dress claims right about now...
  - mylittlepony 14y ago
    Yeah I can imagine the patent infringement: "a web interface for source version control" -.-
    - mratzloff 14y ago
      That's the joke. ;-)
- alecperkins 14y ago
  Are you sure you're looking at the redesign? It looks less like GitHub now. There are still similarities, but Bitbucket is thankfully starting to take on its own style.
- i386 14y ago
  Actually, the design is The Atlassian Design Guidelines and it uses the Atlassian User Interface project (Atlassians Bootstrap) which all Atlassian products are using to maintain a consistent look and feel https://developer.atlassian.com/design/ https://developer.atlassian.com/design/
Daegalus 14y ago
This is an amazing redesign. I love Bitbucket for its support for Hg and Git, and it has free private repos. Always loved using it, now I have more and more reason to use it every day. I might move back to it for my open-source stuff, and just push stuff to github as a side thing. Or setup a hook on Bitbucket to just push for me.
Vwoods111 14y ago
I just started playing around with BitBucket today and this looks amazing. Plus my team gets to use it for free. WIN!
cutie 14y ago
I like the new look in general, but one drawback is pretty clear. The readme is now narrow and can't expand. I like narrow columns in general, but now all of my <pre> text is much too wide and showing scrollbars. Lots of work ahead. :( I also see there is no whitespace around my h3s and not much around h1s, and h2s. Looks quite cramped. Still nicer on the whole. I guess I can try to hack in some line breaks manually.
clippit 14y ago
Nice UI and I think it looks more like other Atlassian products such as JIRA
- bduerst 14y ago
  JIRA: never again.
  - rmanalan 14y ago
    Try it again in 6 months. You won't regret it.
    - vijayr 14y ago
      I used JIRA too. While I don't hate it, it wouldn't be my first choice. What is changing in 6 months?
      - biafra 14y ago
        What is better than Jira for you and why?
        HarveyKandola 14y ago
        We usually give Jira a good fight with Gemini: http://www.geminiplatform.com http://www.geminiplatform.com
misnome 14y ago
I've always disliked bitbucket, because the interface always seemed obtuse. This looks incredibly appealing! Well done, and I shall certainly be giving it a try (current, paying github user)
doublerebel 14y ago
Surprised to not see GitLab mentioned here. GitLab is FOSS and already has almost all of these features, allowing me to host multiple private repos on a single cheap VPS. That is exactly why I chose it over Bitbucket or Github. If Bitbucket wants to stay competitive, I think this is the least they can do -- unfortunately I don't see any innovation that puts them ahead of the other players in the market.
- MatthewPhillips 14y ago
  That appears to be a pretty blatant clone of GitHub...
  - doublerebel 14y ago
    Exactly my point -- these 'new' Bitbucket features are a blatant clone of Github as well. I was expecting more from all the fanfare. For instance, users are clamoring to be able to link external issue trackers of their choice (which can be done simply by URL). I think the first host to supply that feature will have a step up.
    - masklinn 14y ago
      > these 'new' Bitbucket features are a blatant clone of Github as well I think you misplaced the word "some". Inline pull-request comments are ripped off gh, but I've never seen arbitrary commit diffs there, it certainly isn't in the UI. The branch selector yes, the overview not at all. The UI organization has also, if anything, moved further away from Github's.
      - doublerebel 14y ago
        Arbitrary commit diffs have been in Github since March 2010 [1]. The Overview is exactly like what Redmine and GitLab call 'Activity' [2]. Github has Activity in a different manner, through notifications and the News Feed. These are useful features, but they are not innovative. [1] https://github.com/blog/612-introducing-github-compare-view https://github.com/blog/612-introducing-github-compare-view [2] http://www.redmine.org/projects/redmine/activity http://www.redmine.org/projects/redmine/activity
Axsuul 14y ago
What a nice surprise! I like many others here host my private repositories with Bitbucket. It's one of the sites I use everyday.
caludio 14y ago
I love the "Approve" button on the commits (maybe it was already there). Github needs a kick in the butt for more nice peer review features. Go BB! :)
emddudley 14y ago
So how do I browse projects that are hosted on BitBucket? How can I search for projects by language? All I see on the main page are screenshots and signup links. Why should I sign up if I can't even test drive the site by browsing existing projects? Would be nice to have an "Explore" feature similar to GitHub.
- giulianob 14y ago
  Here's a popular repo: https://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/hgtk/overview https://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/hgtk/overview
kmike84 14y ago
For me the experience of managing open source repositories gets worse with recent bitbucket updates to the point that I'm in process of moving my open-source to github. How one is supposed to find what have bitbucketer done? Visit e.g. Ian Bicking's account: https://bitbucket.org/ianb https://bitbucket.org/ianb . Is it easy to find out why are so many people following Ian? What repositories are interesting? "bbdocs" with 4 followers? From the first page of Ian's repositories I know "dozer", did Ian wrote it? Click. Oh, it's an outdated fork. Just compare the direction Github took at its recent redesign. GitHub folks made user profiles act like resume. The repositories are visually big, it is clear what repositories are popular, what repos are active, etc. It is also clear what a person is into: repositories are sorted by 'last modified' date. There is "Explore" section with trending repos (bitbucket's Explore is a joke) and so on. Bitbucket instead removed follower counts and fork counts from the repositories list; repositories are sorted alphabetically now; there is no way to see who the user follows or who user is followed by. I was missing important ticket updates at bitbucket several times because the newsfeed is not "infinite"; "Inbox" messages count stops working sometimes, etc. There are things bitbucket is better at: e.g. github links to source code lines are awful (they don't contain changeset information in URL by default and so easily become outdated); there is no way to specify repo language in github (one of my recent Python repos was in a "Top followed this week" for a C language, that's great of course but..) Don't get me wrong, bitbucket becomes nicer and nicer, I'm still a heavy bitbucket user and we use a paid account at work; but it seems that the open source support (code discovery and presentation) is not their priority right now, or at least they act so.
arrowgunz 14y ago
Looks great. I've been using Bitbucket for a while and I've always hoped they redesigned their website. Now with the pull requests and all, it looks more usable. Although I find GitHub more beautiful and usable, I'd definitely recommend Bitbucket too.
kenperkins 14y ago
It was very well said by gwf: This is a race to the bottom in terms of sustainable pricing. I love the free plan but who knows how it'll play long term.
- senko 14y ago
  It's not a race to the bottom, bitbucket's not free, they just have a different pricing scheme. I'm a happy paying customer with 10 users and dozens of repositories. We're an agency, work on a lot of different projects, and having price be O(people) instead of O(projects) makes lot more sense for us. As amazing as it may sound on HN, GitHub isn't best for everyone. Therefore, there are ways to compete with them that aren't price-based.
sergiotapia 14y ago
I wrote a blog post on BitBucket workflow (obviously now it's outdated) and the BitBucket team sent me a free tshirt! http://www.dreamincode.net/forums/blog/1267/entry-3659-visual-studio-2010-mercurial-bitbucket-complete-workflow-tutorial/ http://www.dreamincode.net/forums/blog/1267/entry-3659-visua... I love their website and how you can create free private repos. Good business practice: Unlimited private projects, limited contributers on private projects. Win-win Github is just greedy.
- option_greek 14y ago
  I would not call Github greedy, they obviously have their own business plan but I find bitbucket interface more intuitive to use than Github.
- lee 14y ago
  >Github is just greedy. No, Github is a business. BitBucket is offering free private accounts as a loss leader, not out of the kindness of their hearts. This is their strategy for competing with GitHub. A $7/month subscription for private github repos is well worth it.
  - paulgb 14y ago
    GitHub's loss leader is providing ad-free hosting for millions lines of open source software. That's not only a good business decision, but one that benefits everyone. I happily pay $12/month for GitHub because nearly all the open-source projects I develop with are on there and I don't want to bother operating two accounts.
  - LordIllidan 14y ago
    7$ a month for 5 private repos is not worth it all. I acknowledge that Github is a business but I am not about to pay a lot of money for hosting all my repositories, when I can do the same on Bitbucket for free. And when the team grows enough that I'd have to pay Bitbucket, I'll do so willingly.
    - gfosco 14y ago
cameronh90 14y ago
Looks great and the home page is very aesthetically pleasing, but it appears to lack any links to actual, in-use repositories. If you look at Github's home page, the top half of the page is full of links to organisation pages and popular repositories (jQuery, rails, etc.) and there's a prominent "Explore GitHub" link with trending repos, etc. BitBucket's home page looks like it's demoing a program they want to sell: loads of examples of how it looks and who uses it, but no links to an actual, well used repository. I had to Google for an example repository to examine since I much prefer to actually play with it rather than be told how it works.
stiletto 14y ago
A few months ago, I convinced my startup to try bitbucket because of the free private repos. Over the course of a month or two, there were multiple times that I could not collaborate with my teammate because bitbucket was unreachable. We have since switched to github, pay a small fee per month, and have never had this issue. How is everyone else's up-time experiences in the past few months? I'm setting up a few personal projects and would like to give them another shot if they've improved that one aspect. I'm not affiliated with either company.
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- fcuozzo 14y ago
  BitBucket is a vital part of Atlassian's internal development process, all product teams use it on a daily basis and we treat it as a mission critical service, I'm really surprised by this comment as here in Sydney we rarely see any issues, I would be lying if some hiccups hadn't happened in the past but they were usually in very short duration, and usually only affect the UI so you can still pull/push using HTTP/SSH, moreover we have a 24/7 dedicated team to respond to any outages and there is absolutely no differences in terms of infra-structure of free vs. paid accounts inside Bitbucket, so rest assured that we put a lot of effort on making the site better for everyone. We improved the architecture a few months ago and that should also contribute to the stability of the system as a whole, see more at: http://blog.bitbucket.org/2012/08/24/segregating-services/ http://blog.bitbucket.org/2012/08/24/segregating-services/ And you can follow the status of the service at: http://status.bitbucket.org http://status.bitbucket.org We would love to hear more feedbacks like this through our usual support channels when it happens so we can investigate and improve our service. (Disclosure: I work on Atlassian's OnDemand team).
jherdman 14y ago
This is kind of apropos, but why do so many web apps use blue as their primary colour?
- fourstar 14y ago
  Easy on the eyes and looks good.
fakeer 14y ago
Choosing Bitbucket wasn't tough. I needed a private repo for the little sth (hobbyist) I was doing. Bitbucket gave it for free and there wasn't anything I missed from Github. Oh, I forgot - I had started that in Mercurial, (/beginner/experiment/learning), though switched to Git later, and that was another huge reason. I still have open repos on GitHub. I will either keep them mirrored at Bitbucket or might move altogether. Brining balance to the force is good :-)
shuzchen 14y ago
I'm loving all the various changes, but one thing I miss is the line in the footer that used to proudly proclaim the version/build of the various pieces of software (e.g., Django, piston, some oauth thing) that bitbucket runs on. Don't see it as a comment in the source either - was that moved somewhere else?
icelancer 14y ago
Just canceled my GitHub private subscription. I only recently found out a few weeks ago that Bitbucket offers git access; the last time I used them, it was Hg-only. Really happy to be using Atlassian products again, and I love the new redesign. Awesome stuff!
ivix 14y ago
Another great thing about bitbucket is that the basic code which handles the mercurial integration has been published as a Django application (on bitbucket of course). This has allowed us to create our own specialised code hosting platform. ( http://mbed.org/code/ http://mbed.org/code/ )
kidh0 14y ago
The old layout always makes me think that they don't give a damn to BitBucket. Seems that I was wrong. BitBucket is awesome and the new layout reflects this awesomeness
obilgic 14y ago
This is the plan I want github to offer For 5 bucks, unlimited private repos, with no collobration
mariusmg 14y ago
Do the Bitbucket employees have access to your private repos(s) ? Honest question.
- reactor 14y ago
  The same way Dropbox admin has access to your private data.
- hashtree 14y ago
  "Relating to Bitbucket security, we take your source code security very seriously. Nearly all of the code on Bitbucket, is private. Via the web application, no Bitbucket staff members have access to your repositories, nor can they grant themselves access to your repositories even for support reasons. At the datacenter, VPN access limited to a very small number of engineers on our team, and we store the repositories in a hashed directory structure that makes it difficult to identify repositories by username." https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/bitbucket-users/uADX9e8VkCA https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/bitbucke...
capex 14y ago
Atlassian's business model is to draw in small companies with their $10 plan, and increase prices fast as the company grows. They're just following the same pricing model with Bitbucket. Free private repos for up to 5 users, paid accounts after that.
aprasad 14y ago
The code review feature is great.
shad0wfax 14y ago
Have been using Bitbucket for over 9 months now and find it really as good as Github for the features I need. The pricing is such a lifesaver for small companies or hobby programmers that want some private repos.
kingsley_20 14y ago
The dashboard no longer shows repos I actively contribute to. Thats bad mkay.
nnq 14y ago
I never manage to figure out where is Bazaar and Launchpad in all this game... every time I try to think of a more "friendly" git, it's Bzr that pops into my mind, not Hg, but... where does one "put it on the map" in the DVCS and related services world?
v33ra 14y ago
Am I the only one who couldn't find a easy way to explore all public projects hosted at Bitbucket? (https://bitbucket.org/explore https://bitbucket.org/explore) redirects to (https://bitbucket.org/repo/all https://bitbucket.org/repo/all)
- jstepka 14y ago
  This is on our short list of items to implement.
sandGorgon 14y ago
To the bitbucket team - one quick feedback. Many of us, use github profile pages as resumes. Your redesign focus has been towards "repository landing pages" rather than user "user landing pages". E.g. take a look at https://bitbucket.org/basho https://bitbucket.org/basho vs https://github.com/basho https://github.com/basho and https://bitbucket.org/basho/riak-0.9.2 https://bitbucket.org/basho/riak-0.9.2 vs https://github.com/basho/riak https://github.com/basho/riak . Please make the user pages a little richer and I shall be infinitely grateful. While we are on that, could you use a better Markdown parser please ?
LinaLauneBaer 14y ago
I would love to use Github but I am using Bitbucket instead because I can only pay via credit card at Github and I don't want to own a credit card.
- simfoo 14y ago
  This. I am a young student from Germany and at least in my environment almost nobody owns a credit card. Why should we when you can pay everywhere with your debit card (without fees!). AWS, I'm looking at you :/
  - LinaLauneBaer 14y ago
    Same here. :) I asked GitHub about this via mail because I couldn't believe that they are only accepting credit cards... Sad but true. I would even send them money one year in advance to get my private repository but now I am using bitbucket for a couple of months now - even for customer projects.
tayl0r 14y ago
It's hilarious how difficult it is to get a non-programmer on Windows setup on Bitbucket (to clone a repo and then push a commit). I don't blame this on Bitbucket, I blame the state of Windows Git applications. My friend who is an artist (pretty technical too but he's not a programmer and never deals with SSH) is going to do some art for me for a game project I have in Bitbucket. I added him to my repo and told him to download Gitextensions, which seems to be, arguably, the best free graphical git app for Windows. So, he downloaded it and set it up but when he started it up for the first time there was no option to clone from a source URL other than from Github. First you have to figure out that you need to setup your SSH key and then clone the SSH url. I know that, but a non-programmer with no experience using git before would probably have zero clue. You have to then setup your SSH key using Putty, and I'm sure we all know how awesome it is that SSH keys generated with Putty are in a different format than SSH keys generated with ssh-keygen, so pasting your public key into the Bitbucket site leads to nothing but problems. You have to erase some stuff, add "ssh-rsa" to the front, remove the newlines, etc. You can't just copy and paste the whole thing. If you aren't experienced with SSH keys you will not be able to figure it out. The bitbucket docs for this step assume you have an SSH key generated from ssh-keygen and not from putty, so they are of no help. Once you get your ssh key straightened out then it's not too bad. In short, it sucks. If Bitbucket wants to capture people other than programmers they need a better Windows app. For this reason alone I would be tempted to use Github instead since they have a dedicated Windows app. Gitextensions is open source too so they it doesn't seem like it would be that difficult to just add support for Bitbucket just like they have for Github. I've used SmartGit for Windows too but I'm not a fan of their products and I was looking for something free. Does anyone have suggestions for getting non-programmers setup on Windows?
- pnelson 14y ago
  I'm pretty sure you can use GitHub's Windows app for BitBucket Git repositories. I've pointed it to non-GitHub repositories at work in the past. You should look into it for your friend.
  - tayl0r 14y ago
    Wow, it sure does look like the GitHub app supports other remote repos. Nice tip!
error 14y ago
I'm using them for the last two years, they are awesome, great job.
Aloisius 14y ago
The thing that always bothered me about bitbucket (and sourceforge) is that the main page of any source code project should be the source code, not some overview page.
polyvisual 14y ago
Yesterday I switched to Bitbucket after using Github for about a year. Bitbucket is absolutely brilliant. It's a really clean interface and the free private repos suit me perfectly. Thanks for your work - a new customer here. Only thing I'd add is the last commit details on folder names.
tchen 14y ago
For students: you can get bitbucket's top tier (basically unlimited everything) for free with your *.edu email address: http://www.atlassian.com/software/views/bitbucket-academic-license.jsp http://www.atlassian.com/software/views/bitbucket-academic-l...
stewie2 14y ago
free private repositories rock! I will host my opensource projects on bitbucket to repay it.

569 points by weslly 14y ago

A lot of people here are commenting on GitHub being 'overpriced' or 'greedy.' TPW did an interview a while ago that has insight into why their pricing structure is the way it is. It's a pretty interesting read: http://mixergy.com/tom-preston-werner-github-interview/ http://mixergy.com/tom-preston-werner-github-interview/ (search for 'which metrics') to skip to the pricing part). Money quote: "That’s like buying a car based on how much it weighs. It’s irrelevant." I may be biased since GitHub does a lot to foster the developer community in my area (I nabbed a sweet contracting gig at one of their drinkups), but I'm perfectly happy with their pricing.

__alexs 14y ago
> Money quote: "That’s like buying a car based on how much it weighs. It’s irrelevant." Car manufacturers are constantly going on about how the latest model weighs X% less than last years. Lower weight usually means better handling and a more fun driving experience...
- nine_k 14y ago
  Owners of SUVs and off-road cars might disagree.

dkhenry 14y ago

I know its not the elephant in the managed source code hosting space, but I like BitBucket better then Github. I like the option to use Mercerial for projects and I like the way they ask me to pay for things ( pay for private shared repositories ).

ericcholis 14y ago
I like http://beanstalkapp.com/ http://beanstalkapp.com/ myself, pretty comparable to BitBucket.
- lysol 14y ago
  We use beanstalk at work. Gets the job done, but not nearly as nice as Github or Bitbucket, and there are times page loads are pretty slow.
  - masklinn 14y ago
    > and there are times page loads are pretty slow. Then again, Github and Bitbucket routinely have the same issue as far as my experiences go (I mostly use Bitbucket, but routinely interact with github due to the project on there)
- scribu 14y ago
  We switched over from Beanstalk to Github a few months ago. Beanstalk's web interface had fewer features and, more worryingly, it just failed to display changesets quite often (was also down for maintenance relatively frequently).
Osiris 14y ago
Also, BitBucket's free plan allows for unlimited public and private repositories, while GitHub only allows for public repositories on the free version. I use BitBucket for a number of side-projects mostly as a way to make sure all my code is backed up off-site, for free.
citricsquid 14y ago
I like BitBucket better then Github. That should be than. Then is an order of operations type deal, eg: I read the new BitBucket blog post and *then* I signed up whereas than is things like greater than, less than, it's for comparisons. http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/difficulties/thanthen.html http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/difficulties/thanthen.h...
- zaroth 14y ago
  So off topic, but... Has anyone ever tried to implement a 'crowd-correct' feature where a reader could do something like correct "then->than", and if enough users made the same correction (a couple high-rep users, or more low-rep users) it would stick. I supposed the biggest challenge would be user abuse -- changing even just one word can completely change the meaning of a comment, and yet the comment would still be attributed to the OP. You would need, at least, a flag to indicate the post had been 'crowd-corrected', and perhaps a way for the OP to revert & lock their comment. Another thought is use Google's auto-complete API, if you pass it the string "better then Github" it returns "better than Guthub". I find simply running a Google search on a phrase is often the best way to auto-correct it.
  - citricsquid 14y ago
    This sounds like a really great idea, I think the simplest way that would avoid abuse is if fixes were sent to the user so they could change it, but instead of needing to edit the comment manually (copy change -> remove old -> paste) they can view a diff and either "accept" or "reject". It wouldn't be perfect but it would be better than people needing to reply (like I did).
    - sneak 14y ago
      This works well for non-realtime stuff (e.g. this is how OKCupid does crowdsourced profile edits), but in this instance dkhenry may not see these suggestions for some time (and, in your proposed solution, have an item sitting in the edit queue for approval), while hundreds of people are getting distracted by his typo in the meantime. You have to be very careful, though, because there may be legal (and definitely social) ramifications for changing a user's submitted content without consent. I know it absolutely enrages me when Flickr auto-lowercases an all caps comment I try to post. ("lazer cat!@!" doesn't have quite the same oomph as "LAZER CAT!@!")

astrodust 14y ago

That's certainly a big a step in the right direction.

factorialboy 14y ago

I like it. Much better than the previous experience, and didn't try to blindly copy GitHub's designs.

eblume 14y ago

I'm having trouble thinking of reasons why bitbucket is used so much less than github - or at least why it seems that way. It's looking pretty damn good to me right now!

bvdbijl 14y ago
Well, Github's UI used to be much better, now it's comparable. I do wonder why Bitbucket insists on having "overview" as the standard page to go to when visiting a repository, making Code the default would be a better idea IMHO. Also because more people use Github, more people are likely to start using it so they can fork their favorite projects
- bryanlarsen 14y ago
  To me it makes a lot more sense: 1) not all users are coders. For instance Sourceforge assumes that people will be most interested in downloading a binary. Not a bad assumption for its time, and still its primary usage. Github often the top google link for a project, and would be intimidating for somebody who just wants to download and use a Windows app. 2) If I'm interested in something, I take a look at the README, code, issues & wiki. So code as one of many rather than front and center is not necessarily correct. But once I've started using something, I've already got the code and am much more interested in everything else.
- Kudos 14y ago
  You can optionally change the landing page to show the code instead.
  - bvdbijl 14y ago
    I know, it's just that the default is overview
  - wilmoore 14y ago
    There is something to be said for sane defaults. That being said, if the target audience is not developers, then perhaps this is a sane default. I think Bitbucket is pretty good; however, I personally prefer Github as it caters to my tastes much more.

masklinn 14y ago

Switching markup from Creole to Markdown is very good news, and the preview being back in e.g. issues comments is a good thing as well. Though I'd prefer the preview to be live... The readme taking center stage in the "overview" page is nice. Though getting it again in the "source" page is weird

bryanh 14y ago

For a while I was a bit worried that GitHub had just ran away with the prize and no one else was bothering. It is pretty obvious that Google isn't interested in improving Google Code and that Sourceforge hasn't aged a day (that's not really fair, but it feels like it). I think there is still a chance for BitBucket to make a splash, but I think its going to be hard to win anymore. That's fine, 2nd place makes a lot of money too (not counting places 1-10 for enterprise source control, which basically print money, and of which GitHub is chasing too).

pimentel 14y ago
> (not counting places 1-10 for enterprise source control, which basically print money, and of which GitHub is chasing too). What kind of source control do big corps use? Don't they just use SVN, with enormous budget for maintenance contracts?
- robgough 14y ago
  Perforce and TFS (Team Foundation Server) are other choices that I've seen used in large corps. (TFS obviously for Microsoft houses only.)
wahnfrieden 14y ago
Google is working on a new Google Code overhaul which is supposed to be quite different.
- bvdbijl 14y ago
  Source?
  - parfe 14y ago
    Yep. That's pretty much the focus of google code.
    - imderek 14y ago

sshconnection 14y ago

I generally version all the things, and end up with lots of small private repos. Bitbucket's pricing model is perfect for hosting that kind of thing. Really liking the new UI.

meritt 14y ago
Any particular reason you don't just tag versions instead of creating new repos?
- debacle 14y ago
  I think he means he has a lot of small projects.
- sshconnection 14y ago
  I often init new repos even if its a single file script. Github pricing is per private repository, but Bitbucket has free unlimited private repositories so I can just push them all up.

thomasvendetta 14y ago

To the bitbucket team: Please keep on doing what you are doing. Your service and this new redesign is awesome, and my team and myself wouldn't be where we are without you. We're a small team of young developers working on a startup for the past few months. We haven't launched yet so we're obviously not profitable, but the fact that you've enabled us to make it as far as we have also ensures that when we are in a position to pay for software development tools they will come from a brand we know, trust, and love: Atlassian. Also, you should update the Atlassian Store with t-shirts and other swag. Once again, great job, thank you, and keep on keepin' on.

jespern 14y ago
We certainly appreciate that, and I personally remember the days of being a small startup. You're in for a wild ride, enjoy it! :)
jstepka 14y ago
> Also, you should update the Atlassian Store with t-shirts and other swag. Launching a t-shirt store in three weeks.
- john2x 14y ago
  Cool. Let me know when it's up. ;) Will it have Atlassian related designs? Or Git/Hg/etc. related ones?
  - jstepka 14y ago
    We will have Bitbucket t-shits, Spooning t-shirts (https://bitbucket.org/spooning/ https://bitbucket.org/spooning/) and other Atlassian gear. We will make a posting on our blog about it.
LordIllidan 14y ago
I agree 100%. Github is superb for public projects, but for private projects it is overpriced.
14y ago

hamrickdavid 14y ago

This is great. I continue to use bitbucket for all of my personal repos since they provide unlimited private repos for free. I would use github for my private repos but I have lot's of small repos that make private github cost prohibitive.

tharris0101 14y ago

I host all of my private stuff on Bitbucket. I love this new redesign. Its a good way to differentiate themselves from github.

Breakthrough 14y ago

Awesome, I think this just heavily strengthened the future of Mercurial. I'm not trying to start any version control wars here, but personally, I found Mercurial to be the most "intuitive" approach (unlike Git/SVN, but again, that's my opinion). I've extensively used Bitbucket in the past, especially for personal projects. I love what I see here, and will continue to use the service as such. Long live Bitbucket! :)

reiz 14y ago

I'm using both. GitHub and BitBucket. But actually I like BitBuckets UI more. For me it is a little bit more intuitiv.

croddin 14y ago

This interface looks great. I suggest that the landing page have several ways to get to prominent open source projects hosted on Bitbucket so people can easily see the live interface before signing up.

erichocean 14y ago

Yay! Github's UI has been slowly getting worse over the last year, and their paid account options are terrible (limits on the number of private repositories, as opposed to the disk space). I've been a paying company for years and years, but I recently scaled back from four paying accounts to one. I don't want to have to organize my private git repositories around GitHub's idiotic account restrictions, so I'm going to give BitBucket a try with some personal repos and see if the UI works for me. If it does, you've got a new customer. :D

Todd 14y ago

The design is very clean and appealing. I'm glad to see they're still investing significant effort. I want to see Bitbucket get more visibility and success. I prefer Mercurial. Among other things, it has better cross platform support. Bitbucket added Git a while ago. I wish Github would add Mercurial. Bitbucket also offers unlimited private repos. That means I only use Github for OSS projects. I use Bitbucket for everthing else. Consequently, I always recommend them to friends and companies looking for hosted repos.

merijnv 14y ago
Have you tried hg-git? I've been using it as my sole way of interacting (well, other than the web interface) with GitHub and I haven't run into any showstoppers.
- cutie 14y ago
  I tried it and it blew up, complaining about "bookmarks." Couldn't commit and/or push, never figured it out.
  - masklinn 14y ago
    I'm guessing it wanted you to enable the "bookmarks" extension: I believe hg-git maps git branches to hg bookmarks. edit: the "installing" section of http://hg-git.github.com/ http://hg-git.github.com/ confirms it.
    - noidi 14y ago
      Note that the installation instructions on that site are completely out of date. You don't need a C compiler anymore, just clone the repo and enable the extension, as described in the README: https://bitbucket.org/durin42/hg-git https://bitbucket.org/durin42/hg-git
- Todd 14y ago
  I haven't. I'll check it out. Thanks for the rec.

SwearWord 14y ago

All my dreams are coming true. Great work guys.

duiker101 14y ago

I just found out that bitbucket has unlimited private repos. That's one HUGE point for them on Github.

axusgrad 14y ago
It looks like the limits are by number of users, which seems fairer. But they will probably make less money. I thought most of the projects on github were <5 people.
- tensor 14y ago
  Not necessarily. 1) People on github paid plans might switch. Thus github will make less and bitbucket more. 2) People who don't use github due to cost might sign up for paid bitbucket plans.
- LordIllidan 14y ago
  It depends. I can see a lot of scope for small companies starting on Bitbucket to take advantage of the low costs, and then buying the larger plans as they expand.

markmm 14y ago

I love bitbucket, unlimited private repos is great for start-ups. I have scripts for creating repos thanks to their api.

MartinMond 14y ago

The redesigned commits view is 100 times better than Github's ever was. http://cl.ly/image/300S2R3q2x0N http://cl.ly/image/300S2R3q2x0N So much more info, and even a graph like in gitx.

Breakthrough 14y ago
...they didn't change/redesign anything on the commit view. The commit page on Bitbucket has always always looked that for as long as I can remember (been using it for a year or two now). Also, I recall having the ability to diff. files before the new upgrade as well, although not side-by-side as they mention in the linked article.
- jespern 14y ago
  We've had side-by-side diffing for about a year. What the redesign has (apparently) done, is bring forth those features, as we're seeing more and more people discover them today.

jashkenas 14y ago

Lovely work. From peeping the source, looks like an interesting hybrid use of Backbone.js as well. If you're interested in getting the new Bitbucket listed on the Backbone homepage, just email me a brief paragraph, and I can set it up.

nicolasv 14y ago
Thanks, Jeremy, and thanks for the offer. I'll be in touch with a paragraph for Bitbucket.

pessimism 14y ago

The new design is really great and in many ways better than GitHub’s. Now people unfamiliar with the services might actually be able to find a download button for once. Another place where GitHub is really dropping the ball is in the social aspect of their service with terrible activity feeds I can’t believe anyone actually uses. I wrote a rant about it here: http://pygm.us/uGhNdcGU http://pygm.us/uGhNdcGU. There are many, many ways Bitbucket can beat—and beats—GitHub, so this new design makes me a lot more optimistic about the continuing competition between the two and the improvements this will result in on both sides. I will say that I’m not sure whether I like a grey as dark as the one you use in your new design, though. :)

cutie 14y ago
Do you mean that you wish they followed the fad of unreadable light grey on white text? No thanks. ;)
- pessimism 14y ago
  I just think the chosen background colour is a little too dark. Something about the colour (#F5F5F5?) is off to me.
  - cutie 14y ago
    Oh, well, that's very close to white. 96% white as a matter of fact, after checking in gimp. It needs to be at least a few percent to be noticeable as different by they eye. Perhaps you should up the brightness on your monitor?

habosa 14y ago

Am I the only one who thinks it looks exactly like Github?

emddudley 14y ago
Not exactly the same, but they copied a lot from GitHub.
- takluyver 14y ago
  And to my mind, that's just fine. Github gets a lot of stuff right, so making it similar makes sense. The differences are significant enough that you couldn't mistake one for the other.
mratzloff 14y ago
It looks just like it. If GitHub were Apple, they would be preparing a lawsuit over trade dress claims right about now...
- mylittlepony 14y ago
  Yeah I can imagine the patent infringement: "a web interface for source version control" -.-
  - mratzloff 14y ago
    That's the joke. ;-)
alecperkins 14y ago
Are you sure you're looking at the redesign? It looks less like GitHub now. There are still similarities, but Bitbucket is thankfully starting to take on its own style.
i386 14y ago
Actually, the design is The Atlassian Design Guidelines and it uses the Atlassian User Interface project (Atlassians Bootstrap) which all Atlassian products are using to maintain a consistent look and feel https://developer.atlassian.com/design/ https://developer.atlassian.com/design/

Daegalus 14y ago

This is an amazing redesign. I love Bitbucket for its support for Hg and Git, and it has free private repos. Always loved using it, now I have more and more reason to use it every day. I might move back to it for my open-source stuff, and just push stuff to github as a side thing. Or setup a hook on Bitbucket to just push for me.

Vwoods111 14y ago

I just started playing around with BitBucket today and this looks amazing. Plus my team gets to use it for free. WIN!

cutie 14y ago

I like the new look in general, but one drawback is pretty clear. The readme is now narrow and can't expand. I like narrow columns in general, but now all of my <pre> text is much too wide and showing scrollbars. Lots of work ahead. :( I also see there is no whitespace around my h3s and not much around h1s, and h2s. Looks quite cramped. Still nicer on the whole. I guess I can try to hack in some line breaks manually.

clippit 14y ago

Nice UI and I think it looks more like other Atlassian products such as JIRA

bduerst 14y ago
JIRA: never again.
- rmanalan 14y ago
  Try it again in 6 months. You won't regret it.
  - vijayr 14y ago
    I used JIRA too. While I don't hate it, it wouldn't be my first choice. What is changing in 6 months?
    - biafra 14y ago
      What is better than Jira for you and why?
      - HarveyKandola 14y ago
        We usually give Jira a good fight with Gemini: http://www.geminiplatform.com http://www.geminiplatform.com

misnome 14y ago

I've always disliked bitbucket, because the interface always seemed obtuse. This looks incredibly appealing! Well done, and I shall certainly be giving it a try (current, paying github user)

doublerebel 14y ago

Surprised to not see GitLab mentioned here. GitLab is FOSS and already has almost all of these features, allowing me to host multiple private repos on a single cheap VPS. That is exactly why I chose it over Bitbucket or Github. If Bitbucket wants to stay competitive, I think this is the least they can do -- unfortunately I don't see any innovation that puts them ahead of the other players in the market.

MatthewPhillips 14y ago
That appears to be a pretty blatant clone of GitHub...
- doublerebel 14y ago
  Exactly my point -- these 'new' Bitbucket features are a blatant clone of Github as well. I was expecting more from all the fanfare. For instance, users are clamoring to be able to link external issue trackers of their choice (which can be done simply by URL). I think the first host to supply that feature will have a step up.
  - masklinn 14y ago
    > these 'new' Bitbucket features are a blatant clone of Github as well I think you misplaced the word "some". Inline pull-request comments are ripped off gh, but I've never seen arbitrary commit diffs there, it certainly isn't in the UI. The branch selector yes, the overview not at all. The UI organization has also, if anything, moved further away from Github's.
    - doublerebel 14y ago
      Arbitrary commit diffs have been in Github since March 2010 [1]. The Overview is exactly like what Redmine and GitLab call 'Activity' [2]. Github has Activity in a different manner, through notifications and the News Feed. These are useful features, but they are not innovative. [1] https://github.com/blog/612-introducing-github-compare-view https://github.com/blog/612-introducing-github-compare-view [2] http://www.redmine.org/projects/redmine/activity http://www.redmine.org/projects/redmine/activity

Axsuul 14y ago

What a nice surprise! I like many others here host my private repositories with Bitbucket. It's one of the sites I use everyday.

caludio 14y ago

I love the "Approve" button on the commits (maybe it was already there). Github needs a kick in the butt for more nice peer review features. Go BB! :)

emddudley 14y ago

So how do I browse projects that are hosted on BitBucket? How can I search for projects by language? All I see on the main page are screenshots and signup links. Why should I sign up if I can't even test drive the site by browsing existing projects? Would be nice to have an "Explore" feature similar to GitHub.

giulianob 14y ago
Here's a popular repo: https://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/hgtk/overview https://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/hgtk/overview

kmike84 14y ago

For me the experience of managing open source repositories gets worse with recent bitbucket updates to the point that I'm in process of moving my open-source to github. How one is supposed to find what have bitbucketer done? Visit e.g. Ian Bicking's account: https://bitbucket.org/ianb https://bitbucket.org/ianb . Is it easy to find out why are so many people following Ian? What repositories are interesting? "bbdocs" with 4 followers? From the first page of Ian's repositories I know "dozer", did Ian wrote it? Click. Oh, it's an outdated fork. Just compare the direction Github took at its recent redesign. GitHub folks made user profiles act like resume. The repositories are visually big, it is clear what repositories are popular, what repos are active, etc. It is also clear what a person is into: repositories are sorted by 'last modified' date. There is "Explore" section with trending repos (bitbucket's Explore is a joke) and so on. Bitbucket instead removed follower counts and fork counts from the repositories list; repositories are sorted alphabetically now; there is no way to see who the user follows or who user is followed by. I was missing important ticket updates at bitbucket several times because the newsfeed is not "infinite"; "Inbox" messages count stops working sometimes, etc. There are things bitbucket is better at: e.g. github links to source code lines are awful (they don't contain changeset information in URL by default and so easily become outdated); there is no way to specify repo language in github (one of my recent Python repos was in a "Top followed this week" for a C language, that's great of course but..) Don't get me wrong, bitbucket becomes nicer and nicer, I'm still a heavy bitbucket user and we use a paid account at work; but it seems that the open source support (code discovery and presentation) is not their priority right now, or at least they act so.

arrowgunz 14y ago

Looks great. I've been using Bitbucket for a while and I've always hoped they redesigned their website. Now with the pull requests and all, it looks more usable. Although I find GitHub more beautiful and usable, I'd definitely recommend Bitbucket too.

kenperkins 14y ago

It was very well said by gwf: This is a race to the bottom in terms of sustainable pricing. I love the free plan but who knows how it'll play long term.

senko 14y ago
It's not a race to the bottom, bitbucket's not free, they just have a different pricing scheme. I'm a happy paying customer with 10 users and dozens of repositories. We're an agency, work on a lot of different projects, and having price be O(people) instead of O(projects) makes lot more sense for us. As amazing as it may sound on HN, GitHub isn't best for everyone. Therefore, there are ways to compete with them that aren't price-based.

sergiotapia 14y ago

I wrote a blog post on BitBucket workflow (obviously now it's outdated) and the BitBucket team sent me a free tshirt! http://www.dreamincode.net/forums/blog/1267/entry-3659-visual-studio-2010-mercurial-bitbucket-complete-workflow-tutorial/ http://www.dreamincode.net/forums/blog/1267/entry-3659-visua... I love their website and how you can create free private repos. Good business practice: Unlimited private projects, limited contributers on private projects. Win-win Github is just greedy.

option_greek 14y ago
I would not call Github greedy, they obviously have their own business plan but I find bitbucket interface more intuitive to use than Github.
lee 14y ago
>Github is just greedy. No, Github is a business. BitBucket is offering free private accounts as a loss leader, not out of the kindness of their hearts. This is their strategy for competing with GitHub. A $7/month subscription for private github repos is well worth it.
- paulgb 14y ago
  GitHub's loss leader is providing ad-free hosting for millions lines of open source software. That's not only a good business decision, but one that benefits everyone. I happily pay $12/month for GitHub because nearly all the open-source projects I develop with are on there and I don't want to bother operating two accounts.
- LordIllidan 14y ago
  7$ a month for 5 private repos is not worth it all. I acknowledge that Github is a business but I am not about to pay a lot of money for hosting all my repositories, when I can do the same on Bitbucket for free. And when the team grows enough that I'd have to pay Bitbucket, I'll do so willingly.
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cameronh90 14y ago

Looks great and the home page is very aesthetically pleasing, but it appears to lack any links to actual, in-use repositories. If you look at Github's home page, the top half of the page is full of links to organisation pages and popular repositories (jQuery, rails, etc.) and there's a prominent "Explore GitHub" link with trending repos, etc. BitBucket's home page looks like it's demoing a program they want to sell: loads of examples of how it looks and who uses it, but no links to an actual, well used repository. I had to Google for an example repository to examine since I much prefer to actually play with it rather than be told how it works.

stiletto 14y ago

A few months ago, I convinced my startup to try bitbucket because of the free private repos. Over the course of a month or two, there were multiple times that I could not collaborate with my teammate because bitbucket was unreachable. We have since switched to github, pay a small fee per month, and have never had this issue. How is everyone else's up-time experiences in the past few months? I'm setting up a few personal projects and would like to give them another shot if they've improved that one aspect. I'm not affiliated with either company.

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fcuozzo 14y ago
BitBucket is a vital part of Atlassian's internal development process, all product teams use it on a daily basis and we treat it as a mission critical service, I'm really surprised by this comment as here in Sydney we rarely see any issues, I would be lying if some hiccups hadn't happened in the past but they were usually in very short duration, and usually only affect the UI so you can still pull/push using HTTP/SSH, moreover we have a 24/7 dedicated team to respond to any outages and there is absolutely no differences in terms of infra-structure of free vs. paid accounts inside Bitbucket, so rest assured that we put a lot of effort on making the site better for everyone. We improved the architecture a few months ago and that should also contribute to the stability of the system as a whole, see more at: http://blog.bitbucket.org/2012/08/24/segregating-services/ http://blog.bitbucket.org/2012/08/24/segregating-services/ And you can follow the status of the service at: http://status.bitbucket.org http://status.bitbucket.org We would love to hear more feedbacks like this through our usual support channels when it happens so we can investigate and improve our service. (Disclosure: I work on Atlassian's OnDemand team).

jherdman 14y ago

This is kind of apropos, but why do so many web apps use blue as their primary colour?

fourstar 14y ago
Easy on the eyes and looks good.

fakeer 14y ago

Choosing Bitbucket wasn't tough. I needed a private repo for the little sth (hobbyist) I was doing. Bitbucket gave it for free and there wasn't anything I missed from Github. Oh, I forgot - I had started that in Mercurial, (/beginner/experiment/learning), though switched to Git later, and that was another huge reason. I still have open repos on GitHub. I will either keep them mirrored at Bitbucket or might move altogether. Brining balance to the force is good :-)

shuzchen 14y ago

I'm loving all the various changes, but one thing I miss is the line in the footer that used to proudly proclaim the version/build of the various pieces of software (e.g., Django, piston, some oauth thing) that bitbucket runs on. Don't see it as a comment in the source either - was that moved somewhere else?

icelancer 14y ago

Just canceled my GitHub private subscription. I only recently found out a few weeks ago that Bitbucket offers git access; the last time I used them, it was Hg-only. Really happy to be using Atlassian products again, and I love the new redesign. Awesome stuff!

ivix 14y ago

Another great thing about bitbucket is that the basic code which handles the mercurial integration has been published as a Django application (on bitbucket of course). This has allowed us to create our own specialised code hosting platform. ( http://mbed.org/code/ http://mbed.org/code/ )

kidh0 14y ago

The old layout always makes me think that they don't give a damn to BitBucket. Seems that I was wrong. BitBucket is awesome and the new layout reflects this awesomeness

obilgic 14y ago

This is the plan I want github to offer For 5 bucks, unlimited private repos, with no collobration

mariusmg 14y ago

Do the Bitbucket employees have access to your private repos(s) ? Honest question.

reactor 14y ago
The same way Dropbox admin has access to your private data.
hashtree 14y ago
"Relating to Bitbucket security, we take your source code security very seriously. Nearly all of the code on Bitbucket, is private. Via the web application, no Bitbucket staff members have access to your repositories, nor can they grant themselves access to your repositories even for support reasons. At the datacenter, VPN access limited to a very small number of engineers on our team, and we store the repositories in a hashed directory structure that makes it difficult to identify repositories by username." https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/bitbucket-users/uADX9e8VkCA https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/bitbucke...

capex 14y ago

Atlassian's business model is to draw in small companies with their $10 plan, and increase prices fast as the company grows. They're just following the same pricing model with Bitbucket. Free private repos for up to 5 users, paid accounts after that.

aprasad 14y ago

The code review feature is great.

shad0wfax 14y ago

Have been using Bitbucket for over 9 months now and find it really as good as Github for the features I need. The pricing is such a lifesaver for small companies or hobby programmers that want some private repos.

kingsley_20 14y ago

The dashboard no longer shows repos I actively contribute to. Thats bad mkay.

nnq 14y ago

I never manage to figure out where is Bazaar and Launchpad in all this game... every time I try to think of a more "friendly" git, it's Bzr that pops into my mind, not Hg, but... where does one "put it on the map" in the DVCS and related services world?

v33ra 14y ago

Am I the only one who couldn't find a easy way to explore all public projects hosted at Bitbucket? (https://bitbucket.org/explore https://bitbucket.org/explore) redirects to (https://bitbucket.org/repo/all https://bitbucket.org/repo/all)

jstepka 14y ago
This is on our short list of items to implement.

sandGorgon 14y ago

To the bitbucket team - one quick feedback. Many of us, use github profile pages as resumes. Your redesign focus has been towards "repository landing pages" rather than user "user landing pages". E.g. take a look at https://bitbucket.org/basho https://bitbucket.org/basho vs https://github.com/basho https://github.com/basho and https://bitbucket.org/basho/riak-0.9.2 https://bitbucket.org/basho/riak-0.9.2 vs https://github.com/basho/riak https://github.com/basho/riak . Please make the user pages a little richer and I shall be infinitely grateful. While we are on that, could you use a better Markdown parser please ?

LinaLauneBaer 14y ago

I would love to use Github but I am using Bitbucket instead because I can only pay via credit card at Github and I don't want to own a credit card.

simfoo 14y ago
This. I am a young student from Germany and at least in my environment almost nobody owns a credit card. Why should we when you can pay everywhere with your debit card (without fees!). AWS, I'm looking at you :/
- LinaLauneBaer 14y ago
  Same here. :) I asked GitHub about this via mail because I couldn't believe that they are only accepting credit cards... Sad but true. I would even send them money one year in advance to get my private repository but now I am using bitbucket for a couple of months now - even for customer projects.

tayl0r 14y ago

It's hilarious how difficult it is to get a non-programmer on Windows setup on Bitbucket (to clone a repo and then push a commit). I don't blame this on Bitbucket, I blame the state of Windows Git applications. My friend who is an artist (pretty technical too but he's not a programmer and never deals with SSH) is going to do some art for me for a game project I have in Bitbucket. I added him to my repo and told him to download Gitextensions, which seems to be, arguably, the best free graphical git app for Windows. So, he downloaded it and set it up but when he started it up for the first time there was no option to clone from a source URL other than from Github. First you have to figure out that you need to setup your SSH key and then clone the SSH url. I know that, but a non-programmer with no experience using git before would probably have zero clue. You have to then setup your SSH key using Putty, and I'm sure we all know how awesome it is that SSH keys generated with Putty are in a different format than SSH keys generated with ssh-keygen, so pasting your public key into the Bitbucket site leads to nothing but problems. You have to erase some stuff, add "ssh-rsa" to the front, remove the newlines, etc. You can't just copy and paste the whole thing. If you aren't experienced with SSH keys you will not be able to figure it out. The bitbucket docs for this step assume you have an SSH key generated from ssh-keygen and not from putty, so they are of no help. Once you get your ssh key straightened out then it's not too bad. In short, it sucks. If Bitbucket wants to capture people other than programmers they need a better Windows app. For this reason alone I would be tempted to use Github instead since they have a dedicated Windows app. Gitextensions is open source too so they it doesn't seem like it would be that difficult to just add support for Bitbucket just like they have for Github. I've used SmartGit for Windows too but I'm not a fan of their products and I was looking for something free. Does anyone have suggestions for getting non-programmers setup on Windows?

pnelson 14y ago
I'm pretty sure you can use GitHub's Windows app for BitBucket Git repositories. I've pointed it to non-GitHub repositories at work in the past. You should look into it for your friend.
- tayl0r 14y ago
  Wow, it sure does look like the GitHub app supports other remote repos. Nice tip!

error 14y ago

I'm using them for the last two years, they are awesome, great job.

Aloisius 14y ago

The thing that always bothered me about bitbucket (and sourceforge) is that the main page of any source code project should be the source code, not some overview page.

polyvisual 14y ago

Yesterday I switched to Bitbucket after using Github for about a year. Bitbucket is absolutely brilliant. It's a really clean interface and the free private repos suit me perfectly. Thanks for your work - a new customer here. Only thing I'd add is the last commit details on folder names.

tchen 14y ago

For students: you can get bitbucket's top tier (basically unlimited everything) for free with your *.edu email address: http://www.atlassian.com/software/views/bitbucket-academic-license.jsp http://www.atlassian.com/software/views/bitbucket-academic-l...

stewie2 14y ago

free private repositories rock! I will host my opensource projects on bitbucket to repay it.