8 ms·

CachyOS: Fast and Customizable Linux Distribution

304 points by doener 11mo ago

terhechte 11mo ago
I wish they had a working ARM port
- arch1e 11mo ago
  I'm curious, what hardware would you run it on?
  - perdomon 11mo ago
    M2 Ultra Mac Pro with 192GB RAM?
  - terhechte 11mo ago
    I oftentimes run Linux Desktop fullscreen in a VM on macOS. macOS acts like a hardware abstraction layer in that case. Depending on the task and the tools, I sometimes prefer this option (I do like the macOS UI though (except for the current version), I just like to use the right tool for the job)
- nirv 11mo ago
  CachyOS would require Arch Linux to implement the support first. Progress is slow but steady: - https://lists.archlinux.org/archives/list/arch-dev-public@lists.archlinux.org/thread/LTJPVTU3QOYTDM7NNQIJPM63W2SDZNGF/ https://lists.archlinux.org/archives/list/arch-dev-public@li... - https://rfc.archlinux.page/0032-arch-linux-ports/ https://rfc.archlinux.page/0032-arch-linux-ports/
  - hublio 11mo ago
    Tired: x86_64 Wired: arm64
  - miladyincontrol 11mo ago
    Adding onto this, progress is moving faster thanks to Valve contributing to efforts such as buildbtw for arch. Not out of the goodness of valve's heart either, they want it for arm based steamOS devices like the frame. A win win for many though.
lousken 11mo ago
Bazzite (Fedora atomic), CachyOS (Arch), PikaOS(Debian), Nobara(Fedora), (Pop_OS - Ubuntu), it's nice that there's a gaming version of pretty much all major distros at this point so everyone can have a familiar base, hopefully they all survive
- IshKebab 11mo ago
  I don't understand why we need "gaming versions" for distros. I've never used them but if there's stuff that's broken for gaming in the base distros, shouldn't that just be fixed?
  - kokada 11mo ago
    At least for Bazzite, Nobara and CachyOS, there is the SteamOS desktop option that boots directly to Steam's Big Picture that is quite unconventional in some ways (e.g. this desktop mode kinda also acts as a display manager, so there is the option to boot to your desktop from Big Picture mode and this option is generally broken without specific integration with the session manager). Sure this could probably be a package in a more "traditional distro", but I'm almost sure most people don't expect their Display Manager to be replaced with Steam when they install a package.
    - Epa095 11mo ago
      No, but I would after e.g dpkg-reconfigure steam-bigwindow
    - ac29 11mo ago
      > Sure this could probably be a package in a more "traditional distro", but I'm almost sure most people don't expect their Display Manager to be replaced with Steam when they install a package. You can add steam big picture mode as a session type which would let you pick it from the login manager (the same as if you had both GNOME & KDE installed, for example). There would be no need to replace anything.
      - 11mo ago
htamas 11mo ago
Happy CachyOS user for more than a year now. I can highly recommend it! I use for gaming mostly.
- tex0 11mo ago
  Same here. Pretty amazing. Almost every game in my (large) Steam libarary runs out of the box. Performance is on par with Windows. This finally allowed me to ditch Windows. And no, I don't bother with crap that needs a kernel level anti-cheat. Simply not for me.
hulitu 11mo ago
> features the optimized linux-cachyos kernel utilizing the advanced BORE Scheduler for unparalleled performance. Never heard about BORE scheduler. It is an additional patch to the kernel ? How stable is this ?
- tosti 11mo ago
  Gaming distros trade stability and security for performance. IMHO they're only useful for FPS bragging rights. Most popular distros should already be performant enough for gaming purposes.
  - sylware 11mo ago
    The gaming version of cachy OS seems to come with default proton versions which seem to work around many windows kernel anti-cheat (valve proton being very limited as it seems).
  - gutafoki 11mo ago
    Or they lower the bar for someone that wishes to pick up Linux for gaming but are not comfortable or able to massage the distro it is based on into something gaming-compatible.
  - deno 11mo ago
    Bazzite is the opposite of that.
  - viraptor 11mo ago
    It's only fps bragging rights if you go from something like 180 to 190 fps. But for other person on slower hardware that may mean for example hitting consistent 60+ fps and eliminating stutter.
  - anthk 11mo ago
    Not even close. An -rt kernel, scheduler, up to date MESA drivers and the like can make a distro much faster for modern games than a server-balanced one which is often set to yield a high I/O thorughput but bad multimedia performance.
bblb 11mo ago
Two years ago switched permanently from Win11 to Mint. It was ok, but craved something more bleeding edge. After two dozen distro hops landed on Cachy. Might try Gentoo at some point.
- Valodim 11mo ago
  When you are tired hopping between different but similar distros, give NixOS a shot. No way back from there :)
  - vanviegen 11mo ago
    > No way back from there :) Presumably because it locks your bootloader or something, such that you are unable to wipe your PC once you're finally done pulling your hair out and ready to admit defeat? ;-)
    - projektfu 11mo ago
      No, it's because when you finally get all your things to work you don't want to upset it. It gets very angry.
      - vanviegen 11mo ago
        Yeah, I noticed that this is a beast you do not want to disturb. But what I did not anticipate, is that the beast was also prone to disturbance by evolving dependencies.
        projektfu 11mo ago
        Maybe it is a glimpse into what appeasing an unreasonable diety was like, back in the earlier times. We don't dare leave Dagon, but he is making our crops fail and we must figure out a way.
    - exitb 11mo ago
      There’s a sense of order and tidiness in running Nix on multiple machines with diverse uses and hardware, all based on single configuration, that’s difficult to let go off once you’ve tried it. It’s basically an elegant weapon, for a more civilized age.
drcongo 11mo ago
I'm using CachyOS on a Strix Halo machine. It's pretty good, certainly a lot easier to get on with than I found Ubuntu Desktop.
rockyj 11mo ago
Using CachyOS for all my work for around 18 months now. Super stable, fast and up-to-date always, highly recommend it.
- partomniscient 11mo ago
  [flagged]
  - pacifika 11mo ago
    Interesting what’s your hardware on the FreeBSD setup, thinkpad?
    - partomniscient 11mo ago
      A few things - they're custom builds - my main server has ECC ram in a Gigabyte gaming motherboard, and does mail/files (now just ripped DVD's & Blu-rays), its had ZFS for ages. Ran low on space and bought a Beelink ME mini, and moved stuff across. That was the smoothest build ever. Booted off a USB stick, it detected all 6 nvme drives and was up and transferring stuff onto it in record time. Not the cheapest way to go about things for $/TB, but I could afford it. Store audio and general backup on these (mostly read, rarely write) with the movies on the spinning rust server. Both raidz1-0. Plus an offsite virtual web server/backup mail server. Not using jails or anything fancy. Just leave them alone aside from running freebsd-update and pkg update commands occasionally. Stable as. The only complicated part is that on a couple of systems the motherboards the realtek network card isn't detected and so to bootstrap the install process the easiest way is to tether a phone via USB in order to get a network connection to then pkg install the driver for it. Can dual boot my main PC into FreeBSD desktop mode - trying to wean myself of Windows 10, but as I said gaming/audio just works, so its the default boot device. Gaming on FreeBSD is problematic, I did manage to play Factorio for 15 minutes, but then it locks up complaining about a missing ALSA file, its acknowledged that its suboptimal and gaming Linux is just easier than continually messing around trying to get all the bits working consistently. Some people insist on it, but it still seems too precarious for me. Hence considering Cachy OS. Wanted to triple boot my desktop machine, but turns out the motherboard despite having four slots for drives, doesn't actually support more than 2 of them. Uh, thanks Gigabyte... The media PC is a ASUS NUC 14 Pro Mini running CachyOS, mostly happy with it compared to other distro's but they all have their quirks. Plus it hard locks occasionally when streaming (e.g. Netflix). Just remembering which package manager and how to use it is a minor challenge. I remember the era where there was basically just .deb and .rpm I haven't used a laptop in ages, and dislike using a smartphone. I want my multi-monitor setup. I still remember thinking how dumb it was we had 1600x1200 and 1920x1200 and then they standardised on 1920x1080. Ironically, Apple's Cinema Displays which cost a lot back in the day - mid 2000's did do 1920x1200 via DVI and we've got a few that still work to this day. My wife was in Apple-land because of her profession (graphic design), and I couldn't resist, Apple wasn't quite as evil back then. I think they have Sanyo displays in them. So props to those designing hardware that just keeps going.
irilesscent 11mo ago
I've seen this be popular but I'm a little sceptical as to the effectiveness of their optimisations. Does anyone have some examples, anecdotes?
- bsagdiyev 11mo ago
  Just an anecdote but I've been running it for a few months now and at least for gaming it works well. Arc Raiders plays fantastically. There is an issue with one of my headsets that when you get in game the audio quality drops to dogshit but I think that's a bigger issue with the headset on Linux and not particular to Cachy.
  - fusl 11mo ago
    Sounds like you're using Bluetooth headphones and the game is attaching to the microphone which will automatically switch the audio codec from audio mode into headset mode. I'd suggest trying to completely disable the microphone of the headset so the game won't even try to attach to it.
    - bsagdiyev 11mo ago
      Yep that's it! I ended up just buying a headset for gaming, since I use the other one for mostly music anyways. Solved the issue there. There were some workarounds I could try but I needed a new gaming headset anyways, the padding on my old one basically just fell apart after almost 7 years.
      - Filligree 11mo ago
        I live in fear of the day that will happen to mine. I have an old Arctix RF headset, from back when they didn’t use Bluetooth and the quality was actually good. I’ve yet to find anything equivalent being produced today.
  - geraldhh 11mo ago
    sounds like an issue with bluetooth audio profiles having a hard time with bidirectional usage
neverrroot 11mo ago
How does it compare to DHH’s Omarchy? Looking for opinions from those who tried both.
- PreHistoricPunk 11mo ago
  Omarchy is not a distribution; just a customized Arch setup.
  - monooso 11mo ago
    This may be my ignorance, but aren't most distributions [1] just an Arch / Fedora / Debian / whatever base with a desktop environment and a few opinionated choices (UI tweaks, installed applications, etc.)? [1] I realise CachyOS makes some kernel modifications, but is that typical?
    - tmtvl 11mo ago
      I believe the difference is between Omarchy simply having some default configuration for certain applications compared to CachyOS having a repository with a larger amount of packages which are being maintained by the CachyOS devs.
    - embedding-shape 11mo ago
      > [1] I realise CachyOS makes some kernel modifications, but is that typical? Yes, very common. I think not making modifications (like Arch) is the atypical case, as "unmodified from upstream" is one of the core value propositions for Arch and why we chose it in the first place. Still, CachyOS is probably an outlier in the amount of tweaks it does, and the amount of choices it surfaces to users about those tweaks.
- LargoLasskhyfv 11mo ago
  There is https://github.com/mroboff/omarchy-on-cachyos https://github.com/mroboff/omarchy-on-cachyos if one wanted it. I didn't, because I'm considering that a fad.
- 11mo ago
blueflow 11mo ago
During CachyOS installation, select "i3" as desktop environment and look how many of the accessory programs die from linking errors. That should not happen with a package manager with dependency management.
- LargoLasskhyfv 11mo ago
  Yah well? Why would I when there is Plasma/KDE which never did that to me? :-)
  - lionkor 11mo ago
    User choice
    - s20n 11mo ago
      I used i3 for the longest time and I'd say a wayland based alternative like sway or miracle is a better choice nowadays. Even KDE Plasma recently dropped x11 support [1] so going forward, most apps will target wayland first. Migrating my i3 config to sway hardly took any effort. I was also able to get rid of a lot of xorg specific configurations from various x11 dotfiles and put them directly in the sway config (Such as Natural Scrolling) [1]: https://itsfoss.com/news/kde-plasma-to-drop-x11-support/ https://itsfoss.com/news/kde-plasma-to-drop-x11-support/.
- ahoka 11mo ago
  With all the unofficial patches and experimental compilers they use it must be full of subtle bugs.
  - deleted 11mo ago
    [deleted]
- Hydraulix989 11mo ago
  What are examples of packages that fail with linking errors? What are the errors?
popcar2 11mo ago
This was the one to finally stop getting me to distro hop. Cachy is very easy to use and very well maintained. The performance is usually the selling point people talk about, but it's also very customizable and beginner-friendly (especially for an arch-based distro). It uses an online installer that lets you choose the desktop environment, boot manager, file system, among other things. You can follow the defaults if you're new. Once you install it, it also comes with a few helper applications that can quickly set up things you'd want to use, like a one-click button that installs all the gaming packages you want to use and their flavor of Proton which is (allegedly) faster than the default. They also have a really good wiki which I contributed a bit to and a very active community if you need help. All around, 10/10 would recommend to anyone. I managed to convince my friend who's new to Linux to use this instead of Zorin and he's had a great time.
- heresie-dabord 11mo ago
  > This was the one to finally stop getting me to distro hop. For me it was Debian 12 with Sway (Wayland) followed by Debian 13 with labwc and Sway. Now I can switch from a tiling window manager (WM) to a floating WM depending on the work task.
  - exe34 11mo ago
    nixos for me. broke it once 9 years ago, but I never figured out how.
  - WD-42 11mo ago
    I had not heard of labwc before, super cool that it's compatible with openbox themes! Openbox was one of the first "cool wm" I think I used back in the day, probably like 15 years ago now when it supplanted Fluxbox as the dominant *box.
  - tetris11 11mo ago
    > labwc and Sway Is there an option to stay permanently in floating mode, and allow manual placement? I'm stuck on AwesomeWM using just floating windows with easy keybindings for moving them around/resizing, etc. and am looking to jump from X11 to Wayland
bionsystem 11mo ago
Funny I've been poking with the latest ISO last night in a VM. ZFS on root with mirroring and boot environment is seamless, which to me is a huge enabler for a rolling release with fast update cycle, so I want to try it deeper. Currently on fedora kde spin which has a lot of quircks, with Cosmic coming out soon I'll probably switch.
- pacifika 11mo ago
  What quirks did you encounter if I may ask? Was considering this setup.
  - bionsystem 11mo ago
    Overall it works well and I like the defaults, the work done is remarkable, and it's been a huge relief considering the shitshow that's Windows 11, and even an improvement from Windows 10 which I enjoyed for years, but it lacks a bit of polish I feel, depending on what you use it for. I don't blame anybody it's really hard work to maintain something like that and a lot of things are nice, but here are some annoyances : - It doesn't shut down properly most of the time, I have to cut the power ; which I do anyway to go to sleep but sometimes I forget after I use it in the morning before going to work, and it stays with a black screen and the fan running all day - There are a lot of updates, a few Gbs per week, and I have to type my password several times a week (even when logged in), I can't find how to change that - Sometimes after an update I'll lose an icon or two, or some settings like scroll speed, etc ; not a huge deal but forces me to google around to get the setting back - Lots of apps are in flatpacks or snaps, I could try some other repos or maybe nix/guix/pkgsrc but I would lose the appstore anyway so I might as well look around for something else - Some things seem painful to setup, nvidia drivers, incus/lxc, zfs on root... NVidia was the most important and I managed to make it work well now but didn't bother with the rest
constantcrying 11mo ago
People need to stop making Meme distributions. There will be so much grief once people figure out that what they wanted is a good, stable operating system and what they got is a franken Arch, which will inevitably fail in unpredictable ways and for which there is miniscule support. The Arch forums rightfully warn against this and do not want users of these distros, since all these distros are inevitably broken in their own weird ways. There are multiple very reasonable distros. There is absolutely no need to make these forks.
- teekert 11mo ago
  Having a great showcase distro can be a very nice way into Linux in general. Don’t be so negative. IMHO the Linux life style also means exploring, being more aware of data/OS separation, a deeper understanding of computing in general. It’s alle achieved with these boutique distros which may display the best that’s out there. FOSS is about freedom, freedom works best with options to apply to. Nobody is forcing you to do anything with these options.
  - constantcrying 11mo ago
    >Having a great showcase distro can be a very nice way into Linux in general. By "nice" do you mean a distro which is fundamentally broken and far less supported then its parent distro? >It’s alle achieved with these boutique distros which may display the best that’s out there. It is displaying the worst that is out there, just with a nice interface. These niche distros are always the worst choices, because they lack in support and are all fundamentally broken. Running someone else's patch set of Arch is the easiest way to have a terrible Linux experience. Having a nice interface to lull people into believing what they are getting is a professional product and then handing them a fundamentally broken system, where some hobbyists have patched a proper Linux distro so bad, that you are not even allowed to ask for help on the Arch forum is down right devious and presents the worst of the Linux world. The truth is that Linux is mostly stable (even Arch), well supported and maintained. But this does not apply to these small hobby projects, which are just worse versions of their base distros with some ricing on top. >FOSS is about freedom, freedom works best with options to apply to. Nobody is forcing you to do anything with these options. At the same time I am free to warn people against this. These distros are a bad Idea and especially if you are new to Linux they will make you suffer far more than you should.
mindcrash 11mo ago
For those of you who are a little bit more adventurous - The custom CachyOS kernel is also available within a Portage overlay: https://github.com/Szowisz/CachyOS-kernels https://github.com/Szowisz/CachyOS-kernels Which enables you to run a Gentoo based system on the kernel modified by the CachyOS kernel team through a ebuild for the official sources on GitHub. When emerging it deals with all necessary dependency flags and configuration for you, just a little bit tinkering with USE flags required.
- ahoka 11mo ago
  Now that you mention Gentoo, the whole distro make me think of this: https://www.shlomifish.org/humour/by-others/funroll-loops/Gentoo-is-Rice.html https://www.shlomifish.org/humour/by-others/funroll-loops/Ge...
  - LargoLasskhyfv 11mo ago
    I prefer apt-shred dist chainsaw.
- temp0826 11mo ago
  There is also a Fedora COPR with the CachyOS kernel and a few other packages, see https://github.com/CachyOS/copr-linux-cachyos https://github.com/CachyOS/copr-linux-cachyos
sdwvit 11mo ago
Made by russian unfortunately
- SquareWheel 11mo ago
  It's one thing to judge somebody for supporting an unjust and illegal war. It's another thing entirely to judge them for where they were born. None of us chooses our nationality.
  - Fnoord 11mo ago
    There was hardly any judgement, except 'unfortunately'. Regardless, there are people who want to avoid distributions made by Russians. Are builds reproducible? Where do these people reside? Could be important.
    - einpoklum 11mo ago
      > there are people who want to avoid distributions made by Russians Well, racism / citizenship-based discrimination is a thing, yes. > Are builds reproducible? A valid question, but what does that have to do with the ethnic background or citizenship of the distro makers? > Where do these people reside? It seems their team is from all sorts of places, although it doesn't exactly say where in the world each of them is located: https://cachyos.org/about/ https://cachyos.org/about/
      - Fnoord 11mo ago
        Of course it is a thing when the country of their nationality is committing genocide, and an authoritarian government. > A valid question, but what does that have to do with the ethnic background or citizenship of the distro makers? Allows security researchers to verify the binaries and/or find intentional backdoors. > It seems their team is from all sorts of places, although it doesn't exactly say where in the world each of them is located Lots of words for 'I don't know'. Me neither, that is why I am asking.
thegaitlessgate 11mo ago
Fedora has been rock solid for a few years (minus Zoom + Nvidia), as my primary work OS. I'm always nervous to jump to an Arch-based distro as my daily driver, for fear of having to regularly fix issues. Is this a legitimate concern in 2025? Would my experience (especially with graphics) be improved on something like Cachy?
- embedding-shape 11mo ago
  > Is this a legitimate concern in 2025? I've used Arch Linux (always with a nvidia GPU no less!) since 2017 sometime, moved over to CachyOS just this year, and had no issues that weren't caused by myself in all this time. I initially moved away from Ubuntu at that time, as I got so tired of dist-upgrade breaking my system every single time I tried to upgrade, so figured I'll at least understand the breakages better when they happen with Arch. But I never got Arch to break something by itself, it always end up being my fault.
  - distances 11mo ago
    Yes, dist-upgrade was the biggest pain with the Ubuntu based KDE neon too. I'd wait for multiple months after a new version was published before I'd upgrade, and still would often encounter issues that broke the boot. I made sure to reserve at least half a day for each dist-upgrade -- multiple times I fixed issues with a bootable USB image and mounting the full-disk encrypted partition to fiddle something. I was always able to recover with some insights from random forum or Reddit posts, but I can't say this was the type hacking I wanted to do. I'm hoping a rolling release is easier in the long run, but we'll see. Also this time I used a separate SSD for /home so that at least I could do a full reinstall and still keep my data.
- vbezhenar 11mo ago
  I'm using ordinary Arch for the last year and I didn't have a single issue.
- jaapz 11mo ago
  I have been running arch for about 5 years now, and I think there were about 3 or 4 instances where I'd have to do some manual intervention to fix an update, but those interventions were generally all fixable by commands posted on arch linux's blog (which, for some weird reason, the arch devs expect you to check every time you run `sudo pacman -Syu`) Arch devs know how much friction manual intervention updates cause, so they try to keep them to a minimum. Honestly, I've had more problems running windows than running arch.
voxadam 11mo ago
I've been using Linux since the mid-90s and Linux almost exclusively for the last couple decades and I have only one question, aren't most Linux distros fully customizable? I currently run Fedora on my desktop but I've run everything from Slackware to Red Hat to Debian to Knoppix to Corel to Suse to Arch, you get the idea, and I've found all of them nearly equal in the customizability department. Is there a distro out there that actively fights customization?
- sydon 11mo ago
  None that I know of, however I'd say certain distro's might attract people who want more/specific customization
- kouteiheika 11mo ago
  They are all customizable, but you have to remember - not everyone is a Linux expert, and not everyone has the time or the will to tinker.
  - dabockster 11mo ago
    > not everyone has the time or the will to tinker And the more RTFM style talk I hear about getting Linux to work, the more I want to buy a bunch of Mac Minis instead. I have actual work to do.
    - kouteiheika 11mo ago
      > I have actual work to do. Me too. That's why I use Linux. If you decide to delve deeper into Linux then it pretty much becomes a high investment -> high reward thing. There's a learning curve, but you can customize everything to be exactly how you want, and there are no black boxes whatsoever. What does this mean in practice? You set it up once, exactly the way you like it, and it runs stable forever. It has no misfeatures constantly shoved down your throat (like with e.g. Windows, with AI, ads, telemetry and bloat). Your UI doesn't go through pointless redesigns every few years (like with Windows and macOS) if you don't want to. If you don't like something you can peek under the hood and change it. The total amount of time I've spent maintaining my Linux system (or in your parlance: "getting it to work") over the last decade is, I don't know, maybe a dozen hours? But yes, if you're a beginner this is indeed unrealistic.
chenzhekl 11mo ago
It's my favorite distro so far. It works out of the box on my Zephyrus, with all the fixes needed for smooth performance, including, but not limited to, flawless iGPU/dGPU switching.
pacifika 11mo ago
I set this up to reinvigorate my T2 MacBook Pro (with Cosmic) but it keeps restarting when the lid is closed, and keyboard and trackpad don’t always resume on restore. I was impressed with the docs! I’m thinking of trying Ubuntu, but maybe T2 Linux will always be a compromise, hardly CachyOS fault I reckon.
- jvanderbot 11mo ago
  I've had fantastic experiences reinvigorating macs with Ubuntu. Highly recommended.
hexbin010 11mo ago
Going against the grain here: we don't need so many / still more distros
- embedding-shape 11mo ago
  Going against whatever hole that perspective came from: We don't have nearly enough distributions, we need more distributions with strong opinions, new solutions and just "far out there" ideas.
  - hexbin010 11mo ago
    > whatever hole that perspective came from Rude (A perspective based on 25 years of using Linux fwiw)
    - embedding-shape 11mo ago
      It's a hole because it's pessimistic, borderline antagonistic and against more user choices. I guess the hacker in me just feels weird reading someone wanting less choices on a forum for curious hackers.
      - deleted 11mo ago
        [deleted]
- kachapopopow 11mo ago
  so we should just have 2-3 distros monopolize the world? hmm I think i'd rather keep having new distros pop out challenging the current quota.
  - hexbin010 11mo ago
    I didn't say that. Silly strawman
    - kachapopopow 11mo ago
synergy20 11mo ago
ubuntu user for almost 20 years,tried many distros in the past,now feel it's a solved problem for me: just use ubuntu lts. one reason is better sw support,e.g. Arduino, android, vivado,cuda,you name it,all are supported out of box, saves a lot of time for me
- forbiddenlake 11mo ago
  Sure, but lts often doesn't work for other use cases like gaming. For example the experience on lts with this year's AMD gpus will be extremely poor if it works at all. I run Arch and my 9070 xt experience was poor for several months after release. I can't imagine modern gaming on an lts release. Cachy being Arch based and recompiling with modern cpu flags doesn't seem to be targeting the users who want unchanging boring software.
  - superkuh 11mo ago
    Being rolling doesn't fix the lack of upstream support for GPUs that AMD does for the first half year (and any years past 4~). LTS distros are great because they work pretty good "forever" instead of great for brief unknowable periods.
  - newsoftheday 11mo ago
    > Sure, but lts often doesn't work for other use cases like gaming Bullship, I've used it since it came out in 2006 for everything including gaming (I'm a gamer). And that is on nvidia since then too. Not the same card, various nvidia cards over the years. All worked great. Ubuntu works great. Ubuntu is formally supported distro, probably the most common throughout all enterprises in the US (because Red Hat and all RPM based distos suck due to RPM has repo bugs still) while deb works great.
  - theevilsharpie 11mo ago
    > Sure, but lts often doesn't work for other use cases like gaming. For example the experience on lts with this year's AMD gpus will be extremely poor if it works at all. I'm using Ubuntu 24.04 LTS with a Radeon RX 9070 XT (currently the most recent and highest-end discrete GPU that AMD makes), and it works fine, both functionally and in terms of performance. > I run Arch and my 9070 xt experience was poor for several months after release. I can't imagine modern gaming on an lts release. Maybe instead of imagining it, you should just try it?
theoldgreybeard 11mo ago
I ran CachyOS for a while and it’s really good! These days I’m rolling on OpenSUSE Aeon for the immutability and because my homelab stuff is all Suse based. But if you’re a gamer that also uses your PC for development or content creation you can’t go wrong with CachyOS.
robviren 11mo ago
I have been unable to get anything other than Cachy to run Baldur's Gate 3 as well as Windows on my Lenovo Legion 2021. Best I have found for performance and so far stable on my relative new tower.
- ariejan 11mo ago
  Tried installing Cachyos yesterday, was playing Arc Raider like 15m later (mainly because I had to wait on the 30GB download). Zero issues so far. Next up is to see if Rocksmith 2014 wants to play ball.
kachapopopow 11mo ago
Here to say that cachyos is by no means just a gaming os it's a really nicely packaged distro and works much better than KDE neon, far better than manjaro. It also generally feels snappier for simple things like opening terminal, but I am pretty sure that was a kde neon issue. I only use KDE so your experience might be different than mine.
- embedding-shape 11mo ago
  Also barely use it for gaming/multimedia, already have Windows for that, I use it for work (software development/machine learning) with Gnome3 and haven't had any issues with it since I started using it in 2025. Don't notice much performance difference with normal Arch though either tbh.
  - kachapopopow 11mo ago
    nvidia support seems to be better, but I have no idea if that is arch or catchyos.
    - embedding-shape 11mo ago
      I've only used CachyOS for a couple of months, before that Arch since 2017, and never had any issues with nvidia cards on Linux, and I think I'm usually in the areas where people find them cumbersome (tiling WMs, gaming, machine learning, CUDA). Started with a 1080, then 2080ti, then 3090ti, and finally a RTX Pro 6000 Blackwell, don't remember any issue with any of them. I think both Arch and CachyOS would do fine with nvidia cards, but thanks to who I don't know.
- ulimn 11mo ago
  Regarding the KDE aspect: my preferred DE is KDE and I installed CachyOS with that. Everything seemed to go smoothly and using it was also a good experience. With that said, I ran into an age-old problem: sleep. (For reference, I have an AMD Ryzen CPU, RTX 4070 super GPU and some low-end motherboard and I am using the proprietary nvidia drivers.) I searched the web for hours and tried a lot of things, including different kernels, but nothing helped. In the end, after I couldn't find anything new on forums, reddit, blog posts, etc, I asked chatgpt for some ideas. It had me change BIOS settings, kernel params, nvidia module params (or something like that - I'm not well versed in this topic tbh), etc, but in some way waking up from sleep still did not work. After it suggested some undocumented kernel param with the nvidia kernel module, I said that's it, let's try something else and reinstalled with Gnome. To my surprise, it worked without issue. I've been using it like this for weeks now. I have no idea if the explanation is good or not but chatgpt said it's because my hardware + proprietary nvidia driver + plasma wayland was a bad combination.
deleted 11mo ago
[deleted]
ragazzina 11mo ago
[I am sorry for the meta, if it's against the guidelines I hope this comment will be quickly deleted. But I am not criticizing anyone, I just find it interesting.] The discussion between supporters of these kind of distros and people against them are very similar to those between vegetarians. "I don't know why the community needs a veggie chicken nuggets honestly. We have delicious vegetables." "But veggie chicken nuggets have their place. They are quick and microwaveable, and they help bringing people in" "We bring them in with preservatives and chemicals? Sweet potatoes are also quickly microwaveable.." And so on.
- embedding-shape 11mo ago
  Welcome to every internet discussion ever, where people who don't understand or know each other's perspective and contexts unless they share them, so everyone is mostly talking past each other and in reality, to someone else.
- tracker1 11mo ago
  me: grabs low carb meat sandwich and watches.
andmetoo 11mo ago
Using daily with niri and it feels way faster compared to omarchy
newsoftheday 11mo ago
I'm sticking with Ubuntu, used it since 2006, works great with nvidia going back that far on several different nvidia cards over the years, great gaming performance. Make that Ubuntu with kubuntu desktop, since Gnome sucks.
jmakov 11mo ago
Seems to be a mixed bag regarding performance: https://www.phoronix.com/review/cachyos-ubuntu-2510-f43/6 https://www.phoronix.com/review/cachyos-ubuntu-2510-f43/6
simgt 11mo ago
Aren't you concerned about security on all these smaller distros? They look great, but I'm more and more worried about supply chain attacks. I feel safer on something like Fedora.
bluecalm 11mo ago
I really like the idea of compiling both the kernel and packages for modern CPUs instructions. This seems to be around 5% free speed (googling various benchmarks) + better responsiveness for personal computer use. Any views how sustainable it is for the authors to keep working on it? Is it just donation based or is there a bigger supporter behind it?
shmerl 11mo ago
Approach of using all kind of non upstream or unfinished stuff to sell it as better performance is actually counter productive. It makes new users who are unaware of it, being unable to report bugs upstream which basically creates an isolation from the wider Linux community. It appears to be done for the sake of hyping themselves as superior, but it's causing problems. I totally wouldn't recommend anything with such approach to new users especially.
dabockster 11mo ago
> Arch based Lately, I've been going the opposite route and using RHEL more and more. I've had a couple breaking changes lately that have been caused by software under rolling release practices, which has made me begin to appreciate operating systems where their APIs and stuff get sort of frozen in time for up to a decade. In fact, this is still a big feature of Microsoft Windows. I mean, if a server distro can be made to be "LTS" for 5-10 years, then why can't we have a decent desktop Linux OS be like that as well (besides Ubuntu)?
robertlagrant 11mo ago
Why is it called CachyOS?
ensocode 11mo ago
Thanks for the post. Always wanted good defaults and landed on Manjaro as a daily driver. Should I look at cachy or is it not worth it? I do have the feeling this community is smaller and there are not so many maintainers. But maybe this will grow.
brettermeier 11mo ago
I ended up using Linux Mint, because things just work out of the box for my old Thinkpad, but with Cachy it ran into more problems.
methuselah_in 11mo ago
Used cachy for a while but still fedora suits me well. It's something that makes my laptop more stable with fedora compared to any other distro. No hanging just work perfectly

304 points by doener 11mo ago

terhechte 11mo ago

I wish they had a working ARM port

arch1e 11mo ago
I'm curious, what hardware would you run it on?
- perdomon 11mo ago
  M2 Ultra Mac Pro with 192GB RAM?
- terhechte 11mo ago
  I oftentimes run Linux Desktop fullscreen in a VM on macOS. macOS acts like a hardware abstraction layer in that case. Depending on the task and the tools, I sometimes prefer this option (I do like the macOS UI though (except for the current version), I just like to use the right tool for the job)
nirv 11mo ago
CachyOS would require Arch Linux to implement the support first. Progress is slow but steady: - https://lists.archlinux.org/archives/list/arch-dev-public@lists.archlinux.org/thread/LTJPVTU3QOYTDM7NNQIJPM63W2SDZNGF/ https://lists.archlinux.org/archives/list/arch-dev-public@li... - https://rfc.archlinux.page/0032-arch-linux-ports/ https://rfc.archlinux.page/0032-arch-linux-ports/
- hublio 11mo ago
  Tired: x86_64 Wired: arm64
- miladyincontrol 11mo ago
  Adding onto this, progress is moving faster thanks to Valve contributing to efforts such as buildbtw for arch. Not out of the goodness of valve's heart either, they want it for arm based steamOS devices like the frame. A win win for many though.

lousken 11mo ago

Bazzite (Fedora atomic), CachyOS (Arch), PikaOS(Debian), Nobara(Fedora), (Pop_OS - Ubuntu), it's nice that there's a gaming version of pretty much all major distros at this point so everyone can have a familiar base, hopefully they all survive

IshKebab 11mo ago
I don't understand why we need "gaming versions" for distros. I've never used them but if there's stuff that's broken for gaming in the base distros, shouldn't that just be fixed?
- kokada 11mo ago
  At least for Bazzite, Nobara and CachyOS, there is the SteamOS desktop option that boots directly to Steam's Big Picture that is quite unconventional in some ways (e.g. this desktop mode kinda also acts as a display manager, so there is the option to boot to your desktop from Big Picture mode and this option is generally broken without specific integration with the session manager). Sure this could probably be a package in a more "traditional distro", but I'm almost sure most people don't expect their Display Manager to be replaced with Steam when they install a package.
  - Epa095 11mo ago
    No, but I would after e.g dpkg-reconfigure steam-bigwindow
  - ac29 11mo ago
    > Sure this could probably be a package in a more "traditional distro", but I'm almost sure most people don't expect their Display Manager to be replaced with Steam when they install a package. You can add steam big picture mode as a session type which would let you pick it from the login manager (the same as if you had both GNOME & KDE installed, for example). There would be no need to replace anything.
    - 11mo ago

htamas 11mo ago

Happy CachyOS user for more than a year now. I can highly recommend it! I use for gaming mostly.

tex0 11mo ago
Same here. Pretty amazing. Almost every game in my (large) Steam libarary runs out of the box. Performance is on par with Windows. This finally allowed me to ditch Windows. And no, I don't bother with crap that needs a kernel level anti-cheat. Simply not for me.

hulitu 11mo ago

> features the optimized linux-cachyos kernel utilizing the advanced BORE Scheduler for unparalleled performance. Never heard about BORE scheduler. It is an additional patch to the kernel ? How stable is this ?

tosti 11mo ago
Gaming distros trade stability and security for performance. IMHO they're only useful for FPS bragging rights. Most popular distros should already be performant enough for gaming purposes.
- sylware 11mo ago
  The gaming version of cachy OS seems to come with default proton versions which seem to work around many windows kernel anti-cheat (valve proton being very limited as it seems).
- gutafoki 11mo ago
  Or they lower the bar for someone that wishes to pick up Linux for gaming but are not comfortable or able to massage the distro it is based on into something gaming-compatible.
- deno 11mo ago
  Bazzite is the opposite of that.
- viraptor 11mo ago
  It's only fps bragging rights if you go from something like 180 to 190 fps. But for other person on slower hardware that may mean for example hitting consistent 60+ fps and eliminating stutter.
- anthk 11mo ago
  Not even close. An -rt kernel, scheduler, up to date MESA drivers and the like can make a distro much faster for modern games than a server-balanced one which is often set to yield a high I/O thorughput but bad multimedia performance.

bblb 11mo ago

Two years ago switched permanently from Win11 to Mint. It was ok, but craved something more bleeding edge. After two dozen distro hops landed on Cachy. Might try Gentoo at some point.

Valodim 11mo ago
When you are tired hopping between different but similar distros, give NixOS a shot. No way back from there :)
- vanviegen 11mo ago
  > No way back from there :) Presumably because it locks your bootloader or something, such that you are unable to wipe your PC once you're finally done pulling your hair out and ready to admit defeat? ;-)
  - projektfu 11mo ago
    No, it's because when you finally get all your things to work you don't want to upset it. It gets very angry.
    - vanviegen 11mo ago
      Yeah, I noticed that this is a beast you do not want to disturb. But what I did not anticipate, is that the beast was also prone to disturbance by evolving dependencies.
      - projektfu 11mo ago
        Maybe it is a glimpse into what appeasing an unreasonable diety was like, back in the earlier times. We don't dare leave Dagon, but he is making our crops fail and we must figure out a way.
  - exitb 11mo ago
    There’s a sense of order and tidiness in running Nix on multiple machines with diverse uses and hardware, all based on single configuration, that’s difficult to let go off once you’ve tried it. It’s basically an elegant weapon, for a more civilized age.

drcongo 11mo ago

I'm using CachyOS on a Strix Halo machine. It's pretty good, certainly a lot easier to get on with than I found Ubuntu Desktop.

rockyj 11mo ago

Using CachyOS for all my work for around 18 months now. Super stable, fast and up-to-date always, highly recommend it.

partomniscient 11mo ago
[flagged]
- pacifika 11mo ago
  Interesting what’s your hardware on the FreeBSD setup, thinkpad?
  - partomniscient 11mo ago
    A few things - they're custom builds - my main server has ECC ram in a Gigabyte gaming motherboard, and does mail/files (now just ripped DVD's & Blu-rays), its had ZFS for ages. Ran low on space and bought a Beelink ME mini, and moved stuff across. That was the smoothest build ever. Booted off a USB stick, it detected all 6 nvme drives and was up and transferring stuff onto it in record time. Not the cheapest way to go about things for $/TB, but I could afford it. Store audio and general backup on these (mostly read, rarely write) with the movies on the spinning rust server. Both raidz1-0. Plus an offsite virtual web server/backup mail server. Not using jails or anything fancy. Just leave them alone aside from running freebsd-update and pkg update commands occasionally. Stable as. The only complicated part is that on a couple of systems the motherboards the realtek network card isn't detected and so to bootstrap the install process the easiest way is to tether a phone via USB in order to get a network connection to then pkg install the driver for it. Can dual boot my main PC into FreeBSD desktop mode - trying to wean myself of Windows 10, but as I said gaming/audio just works, so its the default boot device. Gaming on FreeBSD is problematic, I did manage to play Factorio for 15 minutes, but then it locks up complaining about a missing ALSA file, its acknowledged that its suboptimal and gaming Linux is just easier than continually messing around trying to get all the bits working consistently. Some people insist on it, but it still seems too precarious for me. Hence considering Cachy OS. Wanted to triple boot my desktop machine, but turns out the motherboard despite having four slots for drives, doesn't actually support more than 2 of them. Uh, thanks Gigabyte... The media PC is a ASUS NUC 14 Pro Mini running CachyOS, mostly happy with it compared to other distro's but they all have their quirks. Plus it hard locks occasionally when streaming (e.g. Netflix). Just remembering which package manager and how to use it is a minor challenge. I remember the era where there was basically just .deb and .rpm I haven't used a laptop in ages, and dislike using a smartphone. I want my multi-monitor setup. I still remember thinking how dumb it was we had 1600x1200 and 1920x1200 and then they standardised on 1920x1080. Ironically, Apple's Cinema Displays which cost a lot back in the day - mid 2000's did do 1920x1200 via DVI and we've got a few that still work to this day. My wife was in Apple-land because of her profession (graphic design), and I couldn't resist, Apple wasn't quite as evil back then. I think they have Sanyo displays in them. So props to those designing hardware that just keeps going.

irilesscent 11mo ago

I've seen this be popular but I'm a little sceptical as to the effectiveness of their optimisations. Does anyone have some examples, anecdotes?

bsagdiyev 11mo ago
Just an anecdote but I've been running it for a few months now and at least for gaming it works well. Arc Raiders plays fantastically. There is an issue with one of my headsets that when you get in game the audio quality drops to dogshit but I think that's a bigger issue with the headset on Linux and not particular to Cachy.
- fusl 11mo ago
  Sounds like you're using Bluetooth headphones and the game is attaching to the microphone which will automatically switch the audio codec from audio mode into headset mode. I'd suggest trying to completely disable the microphone of the headset so the game won't even try to attach to it.
  - bsagdiyev 11mo ago
    Yep that's it! I ended up just buying a headset for gaming, since I use the other one for mostly music anyways. Solved the issue there. There were some workarounds I could try but I needed a new gaming headset anyways, the padding on my old one basically just fell apart after almost 7 years.
    - Filligree 11mo ago
      I live in fear of the day that will happen to mine. I have an old Arctix RF headset, from back when they didn’t use Bluetooth and the quality was actually good. I’ve yet to find anything equivalent being produced today.
- geraldhh 11mo ago
  sounds like an issue with bluetooth audio profiles having a hard time with bidirectional usage

neverrroot 11mo ago

How does it compare to DHH’s Omarchy? Looking for opinions from those who tried both.

PreHistoricPunk 11mo ago
Omarchy is not a distribution; just a customized Arch setup.
- monooso 11mo ago
  This may be my ignorance, but aren't most distributions [1] just an Arch / Fedora / Debian / whatever base with a desktop environment and a few opinionated choices (UI tweaks, installed applications, etc.)? [1] I realise CachyOS makes some kernel modifications, but is that typical?
  - tmtvl 11mo ago
    I believe the difference is between Omarchy simply having some default configuration for certain applications compared to CachyOS having a repository with a larger amount of packages which are being maintained by the CachyOS devs.
  - embedding-shape 11mo ago
    > [1] I realise CachyOS makes some kernel modifications, but is that typical? Yes, very common. I think not making modifications (like Arch) is the atypical case, as "unmodified from upstream" is one of the core value propositions for Arch and why we chose it in the first place. Still, CachyOS is probably an outlier in the amount of tweaks it does, and the amount of choices it surfaces to users about those tweaks.
LargoLasskhyfv 11mo ago
There is https://github.com/mroboff/omarchy-on-cachyos https://github.com/mroboff/omarchy-on-cachyos if one wanted it. I didn't, because I'm considering that a fad.
11mo ago

blueflow 11mo ago

During CachyOS installation, select "i3" as desktop environment and look how many of the accessory programs die from linking errors. That should not happen with a package manager with dependency management.

LargoLasskhyfv 11mo ago
Yah well? Why would I when there is Plasma/KDE which never did that to me? :-)
- lionkor 11mo ago
  User choice
  - s20n 11mo ago
    I used i3 for the longest time and I'd say a wayland based alternative like sway or miracle is a better choice nowadays. Even KDE Plasma recently dropped x11 support [1] so going forward, most apps will target wayland first. Migrating my i3 config to sway hardly took any effort. I was also able to get rid of a lot of xorg specific configurations from various x11 dotfiles and put them directly in the sway config (Such as Natural Scrolling) [1]: https://itsfoss.com/news/kde-plasma-to-drop-x11-support/ https://itsfoss.com/news/kde-plasma-to-drop-x11-support/.
ahoka 11mo ago
With all the unofficial patches and experimental compilers they use it must be full of subtle bugs.
- deleted 11mo ago
  [deleted]
Hydraulix989 11mo ago
What are examples of packages that fail with linking errors? What are the errors?

popcar2 11mo ago

This was the one to finally stop getting me to distro hop. Cachy is very easy to use and very well maintained. The performance is usually the selling point people talk about, but it's also very customizable and beginner-friendly (especially for an arch-based distro). It uses an online installer that lets you choose the desktop environment, boot manager, file system, among other things. You can follow the defaults if you're new. Once you install it, it also comes with a few helper applications that can quickly set up things you'd want to use, like a one-click button that installs all the gaming packages you want to use and their flavor of Proton which is (allegedly) faster than the default. They also have a really good wiki which I contributed a bit to and a very active community if you need help. All around, 10/10 would recommend to anyone. I managed to convince my friend who's new to Linux to use this instead of Zorin and he's had a great time.

heresie-dabord 11mo ago
> This was the one to finally stop getting me to distro hop. For me it was Debian 12 with Sway (Wayland) followed by Debian 13 with labwc and Sway. Now I can switch from a tiling window manager (WM) to a floating WM depending on the work task.
- exe34 11mo ago
  nixos for me. broke it once 9 years ago, but I never figured out how.
- WD-42 11mo ago
  I had not heard of labwc before, super cool that it's compatible with openbox themes! Openbox was one of the first "cool wm" I think I used back in the day, probably like 15 years ago now when it supplanted Fluxbox as the dominant *box.
- tetris11 11mo ago
  > labwc and Sway Is there an option to stay permanently in floating mode, and allow manual placement? I'm stuck on AwesomeWM using just floating windows with easy keybindings for moving them around/resizing, etc. and am looking to jump from X11 to Wayland

bionsystem 11mo ago

Funny I've been poking with the latest ISO last night in a VM. ZFS on root with mirroring and boot environment is seamless, which to me is a huge enabler for a rolling release with fast update cycle, so I want to try it deeper. Currently on fedora kde spin which has a lot of quircks, with Cosmic coming out soon I'll probably switch.

pacifika 11mo ago
What quirks did you encounter if I may ask? Was considering this setup.
- bionsystem 11mo ago
  Overall it works well and I like the defaults, the work done is remarkable, and it's been a huge relief considering the shitshow that's Windows 11, and even an improvement from Windows 10 which I enjoyed for years, but it lacks a bit of polish I feel, depending on what you use it for. I don't blame anybody it's really hard work to maintain something like that and a lot of things are nice, but here are some annoyances : - It doesn't shut down properly most of the time, I have to cut the power ; which I do anyway to go to sleep but sometimes I forget after I use it in the morning before going to work, and it stays with a black screen and the fan running all day - There are a lot of updates, a few Gbs per week, and I have to type my password several times a week (even when logged in), I can't find how to change that - Sometimes after an update I'll lose an icon or two, or some settings like scroll speed, etc ; not a huge deal but forces me to google around to get the setting back - Lots of apps are in flatpacks or snaps, I could try some other repos or maybe nix/guix/pkgsrc but I would lose the appstore anyway so I might as well look around for something else - Some things seem painful to setup, nvidia drivers, incus/lxc, zfs on root... NVidia was the most important and I managed to make it work well now but didn't bother with the rest

constantcrying 11mo ago

People need to stop making Meme distributions. There will be so much grief once people figure out that what they wanted is a good, stable operating system and what they got is a franken Arch, which will inevitably fail in unpredictable ways and for which there is miniscule support. The Arch forums rightfully warn against this and do not want users of these distros, since all these distros are inevitably broken in their own weird ways. There are multiple very reasonable distros. There is absolutely no need to make these forks.

teekert 11mo ago
Having a great showcase distro can be a very nice way into Linux in general. Don’t be so negative. IMHO the Linux life style also means exploring, being more aware of data/OS separation, a deeper understanding of computing in general. It’s alle achieved with these boutique distros which may display the best that’s out there. FOSS is about freedom, freedom works best with options to apply to. Nobody is forcing you to do anything with these options.
- constantcrying 11mo ago
  >Having a great showcase distro can be a very nice way into Linux in general. By "nice" do you mean a distro which is fundamentally broken and far less supported then its parent distro? >It’s alle achieved with these boutique distros which may display the best that’s out there. It is displaying the worst that is out there, just with a nice interface. These niche distros are always the worst choices, because they lack in support and are all fundamentally broken. Running someone else's patch set of Arch is the easiest way to have a terrible Linux experience. Having a nice interface to lull people into believing what they are getting is a professional product and then handing them a fundamentally broken system, where some hobbyists have patched a proper Linux distro so bad, that you are not even allowed to ask for help on the Arch forum is down right devious and presents the worst of the Linux world. The truth is that Linux is mostly stable (even Arch), well supported and maintained. But this does not apply to these small hobby projects, which are just worse versions of their base distros with some ricing on top. >FOSS is about freedom, freedom works best with options to apply to. Nobody is forcing you to do anything with these options. At the same time I am free to warn people against this. These distros are a bad Idea and especially if you are new to Linux they will make you suffer far more than you should.

mindcrash 11mo ago

For those of you who are a little bit more adventurous - The custom CachyOS kernel is also available within a Portage overlay: https://github.com/Szowisz/CachyOS-kernels https://github.com/Szowisz/CachyOS-kernels Which enables you to run a Gentoo based system on the kernel modified by the CachyOS kernel team through a ebuild for the official sources on GitHub. When emerging it deals with all necessary dependency flags and configuration for you, just a little bit tinkering with USE flags required.

ahoka 11mo ago
Now that you mention Gentoo, the whole distro make me think of this: https://www.shlomifish.org/humour/by-others/funroll-loops/Gentoo-is-Rice.html https://www.shlomifish.org/humour/by-others/funroll-loops/Ge...
- LargoLasskhyfv 11mo ago
  I prefer apt-shred dist chainsaw.
temp0826 11mo ago
There is also a Fedora COPR with the CachyOS kernel and a few other packages, see https://github.com/CachyOS/copr-linux-cachyos https://github.com/CachyOS/copr-linux-cachyos

sdwvit 11mo ago

Made by russian unfortunately

SquareWheel 11mo ago
It's one thing to judge somebody for supporting an unjust and illegal war. It's another thing entirely to judge them for where they were born. None of us chooses our nationality.
- Fnoord 11mo ago
  There was hardly any judgement, except 'unfortunately'. Regardless, there are people who want to avoid distributions made by Russians. Are builds reproducible? Where do these people reside? Could be important.
  - einpoklum 11mo ago
    > there are people who want to avoid distributions made by Russians Well, racism / citizenship-based discrimination is a thing, yes. > Are builds reproducible? A valid question, but what does that have to do with the ethnic background or citizenship of the distro makers? > Where do these people reside? It seems their team is from all sorts of places, although it doesn't exactly say where in the world each of them is located: https://cachyos.org/about/ https://cachyos.org/about/
    - Fnoord 11mo ago
      Of course it is a thing when the country of their nationality is committing genocide, and an authoritarian government. > A valid question, but what does that have to do with the ethnic background or citizenship of the distro makers? Allows security researchers to verify the binaries and/or find intentional backdoors. > It seems their team is from all sorts of places, although it doesn't exactly say where in the world each of them is located Lots of words for 'I don't know'. Me neither, that is why I am asking.

thegaitlessgate 11mo ago

Fedora has been rock solid for a few years (minus Zoom + Nvidia), as my primary work OS. I'm always nervous to jump to an Arch-based distro as my daily driver, for fear of having to regularly fix issues. Is this a legitimate concern in 2025? Would my experience (especially with graphics) be improved on something like Cachy?

embedding-shape 11mo ago
> Is this a legitimate concern in 2025? I've used Arch Linux (always with a nvidia GPU no less!) since 2017 sometime, moved over to CachyOS just this year, and had no issues that weren't caused by myself in all this time. I initially moved away from Ubuntu at that time, as I got so tired of dist-upgrade breaking my system every single time I tried to upgrade, so figured I'll at least understand the breakages better when they happen with Arch. But I never got Arch to break something by itself, it always end up being my fault.
- distances 11mo ago
  Yes, dist-upgrade was the biggest pain with the Ubuntu based KDE neon too. I'd wait for multiple months after a new version was published before I'd upgrade, and still would often encounter issues that broke the boot. I made sure to reserve at least half a day for each dist-upgrade -- multiple times I fixed issues with a bootable USB image and mounting the full-disk encrypted partition to fiddle something. I was always able to recover with some insights from random forum or Reddit posts, but I can't say this was the type hacking I wanted to do. I'm hoping a rolling release is easier in the long run, but we'll see. Also this time I used a separate SSD for /home so that at least I could do a full reinstall and still keep my data.
vbezhenar 11mo ago
I'm using ordinary Arch for the last year and I didn't have a single issue.
jaapz 11mo ago
I have been running arch for about 5 years now, and I think there were about 3 or 4 instances where I'd have to do some manual intervention to fix an update, but those interventions were generally all fixable by commands posted on arch linux's blog (which, for some weird reason, the arch devs expect you to check every time you run `sudo pacman -Syu`) Arch devs know how much friction manual intervention updates cause, so they try to keep them to a minimum. Honestly, I've had more problems running windows than running arch.

voxadam 11mo ago

I've been using Linux since the mid-90s and Linux almost exclusively for the last couple decades and I have only one question, aren't most Linux distros fully customizable? I currently run Fedora on my desktop but I've run everything from Slackware to Red Hat to Debian to Knoppix to Corel to Suse to Arch, you get the idea, and I've found all of them nearly equal in the customizability department. Is there a distro out there that actively fights customization?

sydon 11mo ago
None that I know of, however I'd say certain distro's might attract people who want more/specific customization
kouteiheika 11mo ago
They are all customizable, but you have to remember - not everyone is a Linux expert, and not everyone has the time or the will to tinker.
- dabockster 11mo ago
  > not everyone has the time or the will to tinker And the more RTFM style talk I hear about getting Linux to work, the more I want to buy a bunch of Mac Minis instead. I have actual work to do.
  - kouteiheika 11mo ago
    > I have actual work to do. Me too. That's why I use Linux. If you decide to delve deeper into Linux then it pretty much becomes a high investment -> high reward thing. There's a learning curve, but you can customize everything to be exactly how you want, and there are no black boxes whatsoever. What does this mean in practice? You set it up once, exactly the way you like it, and it runs stable forever. It has no misfeatures constantly shoved down your throat (like with e.g. Windows, with AI, ads, telemetry and bloat). Your UI doesn't go through pointless redesigns every few years (like with Windows and macOS) if you don't want to. If you don't like something you can peek under the hood and change it. The total amount of time I've spent maintaining my Linux system (or in your parlance: "getting it to work") over the last decade is, I don't know, maybe a dozen hours? But yes, if you're a beginner this is indeed unrealistic.

chenzhekl 11mo ago

It's my favorite distro so far. It works out of the box on my Zephyrus, with all the fixes needed for smooth performance, including, but not limited to, flawless iGPU/dGPU switching.

pacifika 11mo ago

I set this up to reinvigorate my T2 MacBook Pro (with Cosmic) but it keeps restarting when the lid is closed, and keyboard and trackpad don’t always resume on restore. I was impressed with the docs! I’m thinking of trying Ubuntu, but maybe T2 Linux will always be a compromise, hardly CachyOS fault I reckon.

jvanderbot 11mo ago
I've had fantastic experiences reinvigorating macs with Ubuntu. Highly recommended.

hexbin010 11mo ago

Going against the grain here: we don't need so many / still more distros

embedding-shape 11mo ago
Going against whatever hole that perspective came from: We don't have nearly enough distributions, we need more distributions with strong opinions, new solutions and just "far out there" ideas.
- hexbin010 11mo ago
  > whatever hole that perspective came from Rude (A perspective based on 25 years of using Linux fwiw)
  - embedding-shape 11mo ago
    It's a hole because it's pessimistic, borderline antagonistic and against more user choices. I guess the hacker in me just feels weird reading someone wanting less choices on a forum for curious hackers.
    - deleted 11mo ago
      [deleted]
kachapopopow 11mo ago
so we should just have 2-3 distros monopolize the world? hmm I think i'd rather keep having new distros pop out challenging the current quota.
- hexbin010 11mo ago
  I didn't say that. Silly strawman
  - kachapopopow 11mo ago

synergy20 11mo ago

ubuntu user for almost 20 years,tried many distros in the past,now feel it's a solved problem for me: just use ubuntu lts. one reason is better sw support,e.g. Arduino, android, vivado,cuda,you name it,all are supported out of box, saves a lot of time for me

forbiddenlake 11mo ago
Sure, but lts often doesn't work for other use cases like gaming. For example the experience on lts with this year's AMD gpus will be extremely poor if it works at all. I run Arch and my 9070 xt experience was poor for several months after release. I can't imagine modern gaming on an lts release. Cachy being Arch based and recompiling with modern cpu flags doesn't seem to be targeting the users who want unchanging boring software.
- superkuh 11mo ago
  Being rolling doesn't fix the lack of upstream support for GPUs that AMD does for the first half year (and any years past 4~). LTS distros are great because they work pretty good "forever" instead of great for brief unknowable periods.
- newsoftheday 11mo ago
  > Sure, but lts often doesn't work for other use cases like gaming Bullship, I've used it since it came out in 2006 for everything including gaming (I'm a gamer). And that is on nvidia since then too. Not the same card, various nvidia cards over the years. All worked great. Ubuntu works great. Ubuntu is formally supported distro, probably the most common throughout all enterprises in the US (because Red Hat and all RPM based distos suck due to RPM has repo bugs still) while deb works great.
- theevilsharpie 11mo ago
  > Sure, but lts often doesn't work for other use cases like gaming. For example the experience on lts with this year's AMD gpus will be extremely poor if it works at all. I'm using Ubuntu 24.04 LTS with a Radeon RX 9070 XT (currently the most recent and highest-end discrete GPU that AMD makes), and it works fine, both functionally and in terms of performance. > I run Arch and my 9070 xt experience was poor for several months after release. I can't imagine modern gaming on an lts release. Maybe instead of imagining it, you should just try it?

theoldgreybeard 11mo ago

I ran CachyOS for a while and it’s really good! These days I’m rolling on OpenSUSE Aeon for the immutability and because my homelab stuff is all Suse based. But if you’re a gamer that also uses your PC for development or content creation you can’t go wrong with CachyOS.

robviren 11mo ago

I have been unable to get anything other than Cachy to run Baldur's Gate 3 as well as Windows on my Lenovo Legion 2021. Best I have found for performance and so far stable on my relative new tower.

ariejan 11mo ago
Tried installing Cachyos yesterday, was playing Arc Raider like 15m later (mainly because I had to wait on the 30GB download). Zero issues so far. Next up is to see if Rocksmith 2014 wants to play ball.

kachapopopow 11mo ago

Here to say that cachyos is by no means just a gaming os it's a really nicely packaged distro and works much better than KDE neon, far better than manjaro. It also generally feels snappier for simple things like opening terminal, but I am pretty sure that was a kde neon issue. I only use KDE so your experience might be different than mine.

embedding-shape 11mo ago
Also barely use it for gaming/multimedia, already have Windows for that, I use it for work (software development/machine learning) with Gnome3 and haven't had any issues with it since I started using it in 2025. Don't notice much performance difference with normal Arch though either tbh.
- kachapopopow 11mo ago
  nvidia support seems to be better, but I have no idea if that is arch or catchyos.
  - embedding-shape 11mo ago
    I've only used CachyOS for a couple of months, before that Arch since 2017, and never had any issues with nvidia cards on Linux, and I think I'm usually in the areas where people find them cumbersome (tiling WMs, gaming, machine learning, CUDA). Started with a 1080, then 2080ti, then 3090ti, and finally a RTX Pro 6000 Blackwell, don't remember any issue with any of them. I think both Arch and CachyOS would do fine with nvidia cards, but thanks to who I don't know.
ulimn 11mo ago
Regarding the KDE aspect: my preferred DE is KDE and I installed CachyOS with that. Everything seemed to go smoothly and using it was also a good experience. With that said, I ran into an age-old problem: sleep. (For reference, I have an AMD Ryzen CPU, RTX 4070 super GPU and some low-end motherboard and I am using the proprietary nvidia drivers.) I searched the web for hours and tried a lot of things, including different kernels, but nothing helped. In the end, after I couldn't find anything new on forums, reddit, blog posts, etc, I asked chatgpt for some ideas. It had me change BIOS settings, kernel params, nvidia module params (or something like that - I'm not well versed in this topic tbh), etc, but in some way waking up from sleep still did not work. After it suggested some undocumented kernel param with the nvidia kernel module, I said that's it, let's try something else and reinstalled with Gnome. To my surprise, it worked without issue. I've been using it like this for weeks now. I have no idea if the explanation is good or not but chatgpt said it's because my hardware + proprietary nvidia driver + plasma wayland was a bad combination.

deleted 11mo ago

[deleted]

ragazzina 11mo ago

[I am sorry for the meta, if it's against the guidelines I hope this comment will be quickly deleted. But I am not criticizing anyone, I just find it interesting.] The discussion between supporters of these kind of distros and people against them are very similar to those between vegetarians. "I don't know why the community needs a veggie chicken nuggets honestly. We have delicious vegetables." "But veggie chicken nuggets have their place. They are quick and microwaveable, and they help bringing people in" "We bring them in with preservatives and chemicals? Sweet potatoes are also quickly microwaveable.." And so on.

embedding-shape 11mo ago
Welcome to every internet discussion ever, where people who don't understand or know each other's perspective and contexts unless they share them, so everyone is mostly talking past each other and in reality, to someone else.
tracker1 11mo ago
me: grabs low carb meat sandwich and watches.

andmetoo 11mo ago

Using daily with niri and it feels way faster compared to omarchy

newsoftheday 11mo ago

I'm sticking with Ubuntu, used it since 2006, works great with nvidia going back that far on several different nvidia cards over the years, great gaming performance. Make that Ubuntu with kubuntu desktop, since Gnome sucks.

jmakov 11mo ago

Seems to be a mixed bag regarding performance: https://www.phoronix.com/review/cachyos-ubuntu-2510-f43/6 https://www.phoronix.com/review/cachyos-ubuntu-2510-f43/6

simgt 11mo ago

Aren't you concerned about security on all these smaller distros? They look great, but I'm more and more worried about supply chain attacks. I feel safer on something like Fedora.

bluecalm 11mo ago

I really like the idea of compiling both the kernel and packages for modern CPUs instructions. This seems to be around 5% free speed (googling various benchmarks) + better responsiveness for personal computer use. Any views how sustainable it is for the authors to keep working on it? Is it just donation based or is there a bigger supporter behind it?

shmerl 11mo ago

Approach of using all kind of non upstream or unfinished stuff to sell it as better performance is actually counter productive. It makes new users who are unaware of it, being unable to report bugs upstream which basically creates an isolation from the wider Linux community. It appears to be done for the sake of hyping themselves as superior, but it's causing problems. I totally wouldn't recommend anything with such approach to new users especially.

dabockster 11mo ago

> Arch based Lately, I've been going the opposite route and using RHEL more and more. I've had a couple breaking changes lately that have been caused by software under rolling release practices, which has made me begin to appreciate operating systems where their APIs and stuff get sort of frozen in time for up to a decade. In fact, this is still a big feature of Microsoft Windows. I mean, if a server distro can be made to be "LTS" for 5-10 years, then why can't we have a decent desktop Linux OS be like that as well (besides Ubuntu)?

robertlagrant 11mo ago

Why is it called CachyOS?

ensocode 11mo ago

Thanks for the post. Always wanted good defaults and landed on Manjaro as a daily driver. Should I look at cachy or is it not worth it? I do have the feeling this community is smaller and there are not so many maintainers. But maybe this will grow.

brettermeier 11mo ago

I ended up using Linux Mint, because things just work out of the box for my old Thinkpad, but with Cachy it ran into more problems.

methuselah_in 11mo ago

Used cachy for a while but still fedora suits me well. It's something that makes my laptop more stable with fedora compared to any other distro. No hanging just work perfectly