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I can't wait for the instructions to start having ads embedded. 2. Place the turkey in your GE Two in One Oven set to 350, cooking for 10 minutes a lbs. 3. Wh
by SketchySeaBeast 11mo ago
I can't wait for the instructions to start having ads embedded.
2. Place the turkey in your GE Two in One Oven set to 350, cooking for 10 minutes a lbs.
3. While waiting for your Turkey to finish cooking, why not have an ice cold Coke Zero? Click here for nearby locations.
4. Remove Turkey from the oven, let rest for ten minutes while listening to Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars sing "Die with a Smile" on Spotify.
- a4isms 11mo agoThis is where Tesla has a key advantage. Optimus can walk you to the kitchen to look for a Coke Zero. Google and OpenAI cannot compete with this.
- serf 11mo agothis is one of those HN style comments where business acumen and pertinent sarcasm are wholly indistinguishable .
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- iaw 11mo agoThank you for this comment, there is no way I could eloquently explain my read on the comment you're replying to the way you did.
- a4isms 11mo agoPoe's Law notwithstanding, I find it hard to believe that anyone would think I was making a good faith business acumen observation. If Optimus walks you to the kitchen to get a coke, what's Tesla's business model? Charge by the nanosecond for compute time?
- staticman2 11mo agoThe robot suggested a coke zero because it was paid to by the Coca-Cola Company. Now you'll need to buy more coke zero to replace what you drank.
- a4isms 11mo agoThe business model for Tesla and xAI is actually very simple and superior to OpenAI and Google's. No, this is not satire: The business model is that his companies are meme stocks, and controlling social media means controlling meme stocks. The business model is also that his companies require corporate socialism, and controlling social media means influencing government policy. He can talk about AI driving cars, but that's yesterday's news. Today, his business model for AI is to put his finger on the scale and influence society to help him become richer. AI is threatening to replace search, but in a way it's also threatening part of what social media provides, namely the ability to guide discourse at scale. What's easier: Getting his personal board to give him a trillion dollars, and shoring up public support for that with bias in his AI products and on X? Or building a trillion-dollar business? Elon Musk's business model for AI is actually quite easy to understand.
- dreamcompiler 11mo agoAnd just like all meme stocks and so-called stablecoins, it'll work until it doesn't. The fall will be dramatic.
- bdangubic 11mo agoit won’t be. the same sane argument was that “robotaxi” fall will be dramatic but it wasn’t, Musk, like Trump, is a master at manipulating masses and when thing du jour inevitably fails he’ll just pivot on an earnings call (and on “X” along the way) how “thing du jour is yesterday’s news” and he’s onto “next big thing” - data center on Jupiter that will replace all earth’s data centers or something like that :)
- Vaslo 11mo ago
- neilv 11mo agoPurchase/lease access to the hardware, subscription for the necessary online connectivity, and microtransactions for each actual use of it (ostensibly because of cloud compute, and that also means surveillance data is captured and monetized).
- wlesieutre 11mo agoSell you a $10,000 upgrade for Full Self Awareness capability then don’t deliver it an change the hardware requirements
- senordevnyc 11mo agoTesla doesn’t need a business model, they’re a meme stock.
- LanceJones 11mo agoPerhaps. I suppose the biggest in history then? $1.4T valuation and 60% of shares held by non-meme institutions (like pension funds, S&P tracking ETFs, etc) when you factor out insiders.
- bdangubic 11mo ago“The market can remain irrational longer than …” - John Maynard Keynes.
- eastbound 11mo agoOh, so that’s from him. This is the most state-interventionist economist. The fact that state actors trusted him for their policy since 1929 has more to do with a convergence of interests than rationality. I’m not surprised that he started the ideology that markets were irrational.
- senordevnyc 11mo agoHere’s a similar quote from the great enemy of markets, Benjamin Graham: “In the short run, the market is a voting machine but in the long run, it is a weighing machine.”
- wnmurphy 11mo agoNot saying that the stock isn't a meme stock, but my car literally drives itself everywhere. Tesla has many business models.
- idiotsecant 11mo agoOnly on HN can you say something so obviously true and have a reply section full of uhm ackshuwllys.
- dr_kretyn 11mo agoI'm still unsure whether you're Musk's fanboy or making a joke.
- iosguyryan 11mo agoUsers will get used to ensuring a stable supply of said sponsored products, otherwise Optimus may get mad if said product was not in the fridge.
- ljm 11mo agoI enjoy the implied threat of being escorted to get a branded drink, and then getting frog marched to the local store if you’re out of supply.
- reactordev 11mo agoUnless you’re not white, in which case it will spout nazi propaganda at you while starving you by refusing you entry to your fridge. Let’s not sugar coat the future here. Every time a tech bro says “Making the world a better place”, someone’s rights are being violated.
- inetknght 11mo agoMissed opportunity for brands of turkeys
- ponector 11mo agoThere should be also mentioned brand of the kitchenette supplier, utensils and every food component with Amazon wishlist ready to order.
- sandworm101 11mo agoIt wont be that obvious. It will explain to you the dangers of doing your own cooking, the number killed by food poisioning each year, then suggest something from doordash instead. Or it will suggest you eat something faster, like pop tarts, so you can spend less time cooking and more time interacting with your AI buddy.
- hyperadvanced 11mo agoDrink verification can
- prymitive 11mo agoYou’ll wish it was that and not “a word from our sponsor NordVPN” or scammy crypto investments
- gs17 11mo agoIt'll be hilarious (in a tragic way) if Google adds ads to Gemini using their existing platform and suddenly it becomes a scammer in the middle of chats.
- ekropotin 11mo agoIt was in Black Mirror
- dzonga 11mo agothere was a black mirror episode regarding something similar
- scuff3d 11mo agoAt least those are obvious. Them sneaking ads in that don't look like ads are what I'm more concerned about.
- mirekrusin 11mo agoTrueman Show but without expensive dome.
- jstummbillig 11mo agoThat would be illegal. I understand that there are a lot of strong opinions and open questions about OpenAI behavior – the amount of vigilantism is quite staggering – but if what they do is found to be clearly illegal by courts around the world, they will have to pay very hefty fines. Disguising ads is one such move. That's just not a winning business.
- adrianN 11mo agoHow much can you bias training to favor certain products before it becomes illegal? That seems like a similar question to "how much linear algebra do you have to do to copyrighted works before copyright doesn't apply anymore".
- zeroimpl 11mo agoI wonder if you could pay them to tweak the messaging about your products. So when a user asks: Is drinking Coke everyday good for my health, it starts saying yes because sugar is vital to our survival.
- jstummbillig 11mo agoI don't get why we try to make the story so convoluted. They will just declare the ads, as all big platforms do. It's legal and it works. Why would they open themselves up to lawsuits over this? It's just not reasonable.
- adrianN 11mo ago
- fennecbutt 11mo agoI mean if someone is using it for free then this is fine? We haven't yet evolved to the point where we make all advertising illegal, or owning second homes, etc. ;3