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Apple to focus on 'quality and underlying performance' with iOS 27 next year
- mikequinlan 11mo agoI sure hope that is true.
- BooneJS 11mo ago“Snow Leopard”, the original OSX release that focused under the hood, returns. I’m glad to hear it.
- ChrisMarshallNY 11mo agoYup. Many folks think Snow Leopard was the bestest release ever.
- steve1977 11mo agoIt certainly wasn't the worstest.
- ChrisMarshallNY 11mo agoGood. Mac OS has become a richly productive bug farm, lately. I wonder if they'll ever get around to actually reading their bug reports, though...
- thr0waway001 11mo agoYeah bro. For the first time I'm seriously considering adopting Linux as my personal desktop OS. I already use it at work for server stuff. So I'll get by. Maybe I'll miss some of the proprietary software, but that list of programs is quickly dwindling every year. At first I held back because of the ecosystem (i.e. still really liked iOS. But now that iOS is kinda sucking ass too, it makes it a much easier proposition.)
- glitchcrab 11mo agoFWIW, I've been daily driving Linux and an iPhone for almost 13 years now and I've never really had any issues with it. Maybe it's because I've not experienced some of the integration in the ecosystem and so I don't know what I'm missing. I use Firefox as my browser across all devices so I can just share tabs via my account, and if I want to share text or files then LocalSend works just fine in lieu of Airdrop.
- WheatMillington 11mo agoThis article is about iOS?
- ChrisMarshallNY 11mo agoYeah, but one of the reasons for using the same number for all OSes, was because they want to tie them together a lot more. IOS is just as buggy as MacOS, but I don’t spend as much time in iOS, as I do, in MacOS.
- smcleod 11mo agoI hope they invest some time in macOS, gosh it's become a right mess over the last 3-5 major releases - Tahoe is the worst of the bunch.
- brikym 11mo agoI'm still calling it liquid ass. The glass theme just makes things difficult to read for the sake of fashion.
- Hamuko 11mo agoTahoe is okay to use if you just use the Reduce Transparency accessibility option. The buttons in Finder still look ridiculous though. Fisher-Price tier design.
- _the_inflator 11mo agoIt is a gimmick, not anything users as a spectrum might find favorable. And the sad thing is, that Apple is the only one with such a laughing stock of UX/UI. I am totally annoyed by the animations in Apple Notes. The icons have considerable increased in size and everything screams what a mess to me: the shadow as part of "the experience", partly rounded icons which talk more space than rectangles, hidden functions or multi function menus. There is absolutely no spirit in this update. The animations show no variations, always the same most boring ones (the s curve in Apple Notes). Lately I found die settings menu in Safari especially disastrous, the tab menu icons when pressed look so ridiculous, I lost words.
- roughly 11mo ago> And the sad thing is, that Apple is the only one with such a laughing stock of UX/UI. Oh, give it time. We thought the same when they went flat, too.
- gumby271 11mo agoWe thought the same thing, and they made pretty significant changes to it based on that pushback. Also the flat redesign didn't have basic problems like white text on an white background all while Apple is saying they spent obscene resources on it.
- lapcat 11mo ago1) The "0 New Features" Mac OS X 10.6.0 came 22 months after 10.5.0, not 12 months 2) 10.6.0 included significant under-the-hood improvements but also brought some truly nasty new bugs and was significantly buggier than 10.5.8, released a few weeks prior 3) 10.6 received 23 months of subsequent minor bug fix updates, up to 10.6.8 v1.1 We'd need two Snow Leopards in a row just to match Snow Leopard purely in development time, but now there's a lot more preexisting technical debt built up after well over a decade of annual major releases.
- ValentineC 11mo agoLike every other OS with a billion parts, they fix some moving parts while breaking others. I was on Ventura until I very recently upgraded to Sequoia. Three little undocumented changes I noticed: 1) My Thunderbolt 4 NVMe enclosure was unusable in Ventura and would cause Finder to hang. It's usable now. 2) I could finally connect to my 6Ghz access point with my M2 MacBook Pro. 3) I think the HDR brightness transition was also tweaked to be a bit less annoying. I'm skipping Tahoe because it's hot garbage, but I look forward to macOS 27.
- thr0waway001 11mo agoFix that freaking keyboard FFS. Seriously. How is it that almost 20 years later it's still one of the worst parts of the iOS experience. Also, ditch liquid glass on MacOS. That sh t is so Windows 7. It wasn't cool then and it isn't cool now. What the hell are you guys doing? Copying Microsoft now? It so, outdated, slow and twitchy, makes it hard to read. There's literally no upside to it. None. Zip. Nada.
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- Nextgrid 11mo agoComparing that abomination to Windows 7 is an insult to Windows 7. Microsoft actually used to have good enough, usable/functional design back then.
- loloquwowndueo 11mo agoI bet he meant Vista.
- steve1977 11mo agoI wish we had Windows 7 today. Either from Microsoft or Apple, I would buy it.
- krtkush 11mo agoThey need to fix Mac OS first. It’s one of the worst OS I have ever used - apps keep crashing, random UI/UX glitches and bad decisions overall. I’ll probably ditch Mac if this degradation continues.
- alberth 11mo agoAre you primary using electron-based apps, or true native macOS apps? Maybe I’m lucky but I run macOS daily without any problems. (Yes, there’s annoying fit/finish issues in the UI - but no issues with stability)
- frizlab 11mo agoSame here (except when switching branch in a repo with Xcode open…)
- krtkush 11mo agoI don't think so. There might be some, but definitely not a majority. My biggest complaint is with Firefox - it works fine on my older Mac, but crashes on Tahao and only works after a system restart.
- jrnichols 11mo agoSame here. While Liquid Glass might be a bit distracting, I don't remember the last time I had an app crash. It's been quite a while. 26.1 fixed a lot of the buggy/laggy feeling too.
- AnonC 11mo ago> Are you primary using electron-based apps, or true native macOS apps? Maybe I’m lucky but I run macOS daily without any problems. There’s an in-between abomination — Catalyst based apps from/by Apple (quickly migrated from iOS to macOS). Reminders, Notes and others are downright unnavigable and unusable with a keyboard and are so, so terrible in their UX. It’s a shame that Apple hasn’t spent any effort in fixing those and making them true native macOS apps. For the last several years, there has been nobody at Apple who has good taste and a deep and committed interest in UX.
- who-shot-jr 11mo agoWould like to switch to Linux but hardware/laptop options are horrible compared to MacBook M series machines.
- fsflover 11mo agoTry M1 or M2 with Asahi Linux.
- piskov 11mo agoI installed omarchy, gave it couple of days. Well, I will stay on windows with wsl and macos in the foreseeable future.
- piskov 11mo agoI will elaborate: The first update after install failed. To make my two screens work (one of them portait) I needed to learn how to modify text config. And for some reason my 23” display ran at 150% instead of 200% scaling. Keymaps in komorebi on windows are alt+hjkl to focus windows and alt+shift+hjkl to move them. On omarchy it’s some accords with arrows. Arrows on system that touts vim and tui! I don’t have arrows on my uhk keyboard. The font is too small. To make it at least 10 you don’t have one setting for that. The list just goes on and on. So, like I’ve said, I’m perfectly ok with windows and wsl for my C# stuff and my mac for everything else.
- righthand 11mo agoThen please don’t make the leap. Because beyond your specific hardware design requirements that are “must be a macbook” there is a lot more trade offs you’re going to have to make. Letting go of your prudeness about what constitutes good and bad hardware should be the easiest barrier to cross.
- mitchell209 11mo agoOut of the box on CachyOS with KDE Plasma, I don't even have windows remembering their positions across a multi-monitor setup. That was shocking to experience with a current-day DE. And I believe it's not KDE's fault specifically but Wayland not having that feature yet, but that makes 0 difference to the user. If OP is hesitant to switch because of superficial hardware complaints, they're going to have a hell of a time actually using it as their main operating system for any significant amount of time.
- JumpCrisscross 11mo ago> Apple won’t quite launch ‘zero new features’ like they claimed with OS X Snow Leopard back in 2009, however. According to Gurman, Apple still plans to release a number of new AI features with iOS 27, so the company doesn’t continue to fall behind in the AI race. Goddamit. Zero new features is clean. It's communicable. It lets Cook, as he departs, harken back to quintessential Jobs. It will sell phones. It will sell Macs. And it implies perfection in a way only Apple, historically, has been able to nail and sell. Nobody is buying an incremental iPhone or Mac because Siri recovered from lobotomy. The decision to water down zero new features with a douse of Giannandrea reeks of office politics.
- krackers 11mo agoSnow Leopard wasn't 0 new features, it brought pretty sweeping kernel level changes. Although I suppose being able to focus on low-level developer facing things rather than flashy new consumer facing things is still in line with the philosophy.
- MyFirstSass 11mo agoThe number one priority must surely be fixing the keyboard, besides the horrible UX? Millions are having problems for years so it's not just me, honestly thought i was "getting old" but no incredible amount of threads and now this on YT with 1 mil views: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hksVvXONrIo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hksVvXONrIo Wild typing on a 3210 was less stressful for me.
- javier2 11mo agoI thought I was just incapable of learning. I find it so difficult to write on my ios keyboard.
- wiseowise 11mo agoThis is what 400k salary, 12 rounds of leetcode, system design and circus dancing interviews gets you, apparently.
- firecall 11mo agoOh wow! I thought it was just me!
- skwee357 11mo agoI through I’m just getting stupider and stupider with each day. I even started to reset my iOS keyboard autocorrect dictionary or whatever-magic-learning they do to fix this, but eventually will still mistype words. Thank you for this video, it really made me feel that I’m not alone in this struggle of typing.
- louthy 11mo agoFinally, confirmation that I’m not going mad! I remember when I got my first iPhone, back in the day, and demoing to a friend how it was almost impossible to misspell something when typing fast. That is just not the case now. Typing performance has got worse and worse. Just typing out this comment has been infuriating.
- paxys 11mo agoInstalling the Google keyboard has been step #1 on every new iOS device of mine for the last decade. Sometimes I'll accidentally switch back to the default one while typing and immediately notice how broken the experience is. And yeah, I have definitely run into the exact issue shown in this video. As a side note, I can't believe not a single device manufacturer has been able to make a blackberry-style keyboard work with a modern phone. Texting is by far the #1 activity on smartphones and yet when it comes to typing we have somehow gone backwards since the mid 2000s.
- MBCook 11mo agoStart by kicking out Cook, MASSIVELY toning down Liquid Glass, fixing the Mac to look more Mac like, and stop shoving ads in my face.
- joecool1029 11mo agoI'm an outsider to the big tech companies so I don't know how it looks on the inside, but I have thoughts and maybe it will spur some discussion. I've heard it said that there is manager culture, push to ship new features to pad resumes, etc. So you have these teams building new projects/products and some of it is a miss. There's an escalation path from outside and inside that allows for radars to be filed for major issues. I remember tracking one when I got the original iPhone SE they had a bug in the bluetooth stack that made handsfree calls sound all full of static for the first release or two after launch. We all know bluetooth is a pain and they handled fixing this well. I assume logically with most projects you expect to field lots of bugs early on at launch and then you take resources off once it's been live for a bit and the problem reports slow down. Then it's just debt or not important and how does it ever get handled? With Apple, there are little ongoing bugs I would like to file, I have submitted on-device feedbacks before but it feels like sending into a black hole. Here is a simple bug, very easy to describe: Accessibility > Audio & Visual > Flash for Alerts (enable it). It flashes the camera light when you get a notification so you can visually see alerts while the phone is silent and not in a pocket. This works on its own, but if you are using the camera light as flashlight and people begin to message you, it will flash and turn the flashlight off. It should remember the state of the flashlight before it flashes but it doesn't and turns it off each time. This is not a new regression. I guess I write this comment because we have these large companies lots of resources, some unique divisions like Google's Project Zero; but are there any non-project tied teams inside these companies that deal specifically with 'tech debt' and company internal interoperability issues and can pad resumes with that? We knew US gov had 18F, thinking of a division that fixes issues between the teams that might not usually talk. The most dysfunctional large company at this time seems to be Microsoft and I could write a whole series on how the most basic things are broken (stuff like Share icon for photos only trying to share using Windows Mail and not Outlook). Or the fact that IMAP was broken on the Android Outlook client from August until the past week (it's almost fixed can delete mail again, just can't move it automatically to trash, has to be permanently deleted). And you just feel the different divisions across platforms don't talk to each other and the consumer slop is separate from the paying business stuff and that's split between the Outlook and chromium Outlook, and that's all a totally different thing than the Sharepoint/Teams stuff. But also the mandate of god says Copilot must be everywhere and if you are using classic outlook on monthly channel you must accept your lord and savior Copilot into your Outlook life and there's not a current way to turn it off (officially). With Apple and quality: They do appear to still be doing 'the good stuff under the hood' most don't pay attention to. I look at their iPhone Air, people confused as to who it's made for, fashion item or whatever I heard in another thread. But I am laser focused on connectivity/modem stuff, before I had the RCS issue the last time I walked into an Apple store was to look at the 16e, not to buy it (I have a 15 pro) but because I'm happy to see another modem vendor on the market that might know what they are doing. The Air is an evolution of this, it will eventually go into flagships when it's ready. This is the good stuff under the hood, besides the increased margin for Apple at not having to pay Qualcomm... there is room for improvement. I guess sub-6 performance is looking much better. I know something that was noticed awhile back is Mediatek seems to have much better latency than Qualcomm modems, but they don't really have flagship modems in handsets in the US market, just in AP stuff like the T-Mobile Home Internet (where I've had units with both Qualcomm and Mediatek and can say the latter wins). Would really want to know how Apple compares to it.
- maffyoo 11mo agomy 83 year old mother was able to use (almost) all the features of iOS when she first got an iPhone, in 2012. It genuinely changed her life and meant she could participate in a world I dont think she ever expected to be comfortable in. She tried and failed to use a PC for years. Local library lessons, family time (and patience) etc, but she always needed support. the iPhone as different, it was simple to use with familiar user interactions with every app. Roll forwards to 2025, gradually bit by unnecessary bit bells, whistles and complexity has bled in from every angle. Last week I did a FaceTime call with her to help her log in to an app on her phone. She can do it fine on her iPad that hasn't been updated. this was like going back to her PC days - too complicated and giving her features she didn't ask for, or need. what was it Steve Jobs said? "If you were a product person at IBM or Xerox, so you make a better copier or a better computer — so what? When you have a monopoly market share, the company is not any more successful. So the people that can make the company more successful are sales and marketing people. And they end up running the companies. And the product people get driven out of the decision-making forums. And the companies forget what it means to make great products. Sort of the product sensibility and the product genius that brought them to that monopolistic position gets rotted out by people running these companies who have no conception of a good product versus a bad product."
- grogenaut 11mo agoI've worked at companies that don't really have to sell on features. The product people still come up with new ideas constantly and don't pay attention to the quality. Heck, engineers will gin up new systems to build if they're bored.
- maffyoo 11mo agoYeah that’s another gripe. When is a product finished ..
- seec 11mo agoFor marketing reasons (and App Store predatory capture) they decided to make the iPhone more like a computer. Yet I do not know a single "normal" iOS user who actually make use of all the stuff. They all ask me to do stuff on a "real" computer". Meanwhile I know how to use the "advanced" iOS bits but it is so convoluted and slow that I would rather not. Special mention to "files management" with the most retarded counter-intuitive behavior one could think of. Even when you know how it will behave, it still feels like a mystery how you are going to find back your files. Especially since the "Files" app always open up to some random unexpected place. They tried to "copy" Android more powerful features but failed because they want too much control and are insane with "security". Yet iOS lack the simplicity it once had. And iPadOS is still a joke as a real computer OS alternative. So what's the point of it all.
- loloquwowndueo 11mo agoHoly shit so I will have to put up with iOS 26’s abysmal performance for almost a year? Nooo… this thing visibly and painfully struggles to keep up even on a brand-new iPhone 17. I was hoping for iOS 26 point releases fixing most of the garbage… sigh
- tacker2000 11mo agoWhy do they even need to release a major version every year? Whats the point? For the hardware, i get it, but the OS doesnt really drive sales, and if you have the pressure of releasing new amazing features every year then maintenance and bugs get left behind, and you end up in the situation that we have now…
- rckt 11mo agoThis is amazing. Once a company that built its reputation on quality and performance wants to focus on that. iOS became a parody of itself. 26 feels like a cheap knockoff of an iOS. Hundreds of people get paid to enshitify experience for millions of users. That’s incredible. And then they simply say that yeah you know it’s time to work on quality and performance. Isn’t it what always had to be there in the first place? Ridiculous.
- testdelacc1 11mo agoI don’t usually complain about UX issues because I’m not bothered by small things. I can’t recall having a problem with ios before ios26, when the screenshot tool stopped showing the screenshot after you took one. Instead it would automatically save it to the gallery, which is not what I wanted. The workaround for this bug was to lock and unlock the screen. Not the worst thing, but it indicated a shocking lack of give-a-fuck in Cupertino. This is one of the most basic flows, which they shipped in a broken state.
- thenthenthen 11mo agoIt does not show a preview of the screenshot anymore? Oh no, this function is a literal life saver for (to quickly translate things) :O
- testdelacc1 11mo agoFixed in iOS 26.1, for what it’s worth.
- x13 11mo agoSettings > General > Screen Capture > Full-Screen Previews https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/change-the-screen-capture-settings-iph2d2500abc/ios https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/change-the-screen-cap...
- lossolo 11mo agoApple hardware is great, but the software has become complete garbage. On my Apple Watch I have regularly occurring hiccups where the whole UI freezes, especially when I go into training mode to pick an exercise. On my iPhone, after the liquid glass update, I get a noticeable slowdown and stuttering FPS when moving from the widgets screen to the first page and in other parts of UI. I'm afraid to upgrade my MacBook to the new OS, so I don't.
- seec 11mo agoI wish they would rethink the Apple Watch altogether. The smart parts are useless and just not practical. The health tracking is good but it has poor battery life because of useless smarts. The sport stuff is just OK but viewing/using the data is completely terrible. I know I can use 3rd party apps (and I do) but I feel like Apple should be the one to do it considering the price. On my iPhone, widget randomly don't refresh. Ah well, they can't be arsed to make them slightly interactive but now they just barely work. Oh and recently, Apple Pay has decided to randomly bug out on my iPhone. It makes the POS bug out for some reason. Works with the watch. Rebooting did not fix. I just don't comprehend how they can have so many regressions when things were just fine for a while.
- firecall 11mo agoMaybe it's just me, but if I was leading development of iOS, then a "Quality and Underlying Performance" focus would be the bedrock of anything that was modified or added to iOS. How is it not? :-/
- trevorlsullivan 11mo agoside note, but have you guys tried using the AI feature in Xcode? its the biggest piece of trash i have ever used in my life. its unreal.
- slimebot80 11mo agoWhy wait? Fix things now. I brought a Pro Max last year, after owning a perfectly fine 13 mini for years, and just my luck the latest iOS seems to make everything worse. Face detection. Navigating photos. Unresponsive Apps. Confusing as f*ck UI. No idea why I spent so much money on a Pro phone, should of stuck with the 13 mini and refused to upgrade the OS.
- arresin 11mo agoHow did it get to this point? Don’t the old folks at Apple use iPhones?
- orloffm 11mo agoYesterday I had my "death by a thousand strikes" moment with the children's iPad. 1. It was showing 4% of battery for a while, but then showed a pop-up that the battery level has dropped below 10% and suggested turning on the battery saver. 2. I entered iMessage via a notification, and it was unresponsive, I couldn't select the thread on the left. And there are in total 3 of them, not hundreds. Had to tap it multiple times. 3. Then I wanted to switch to the previous app, and the drag-the-line-up-slowly-to-show-apps menu was polluted with 8 copies of iMessage. All of these should've been not only caught by some kind of internal testing, they should've not happened at all due to proper architecture of the system. iOS more and more feels as a collection of hacks that try to mimic the real thing.
- matty22 11mo agoI'd like Touch ID to start working again on my MacBook. After updating to Tahoe, it has just stopped working entirely to wake up my computer. Also, every menu with double rounded borders needs to be cleaned up. The worst offender is the left side of the Finder, it looks absolutely horrible.