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Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

278 points by 2OEH8eoCRo0 1y ago

ProllyInfamous 1y ago
Even presuming pieces weren't falling off, every time I see one of these my first thought is how did this pass safety standards (e.g. the sharp corners/blades/edges; pedestrian-strike setups). Now add on flying corners/blades/edges ... even less enthused. ---- I finally drove in a Rivian — and while I prefer the hybrid drivetrains — it was exceptionally nice. As an American, I can't wait for BYD to offer test drives here.
- hamdingers 1y ago
  > how did this pass safety standards In the US, the safety standards consider only the occupants of the car. The safety of pedestrians, cyclists, and occupants of other cars are not considered. This was looking like it would change but with the current administration I doubt it. The Cybertruck is not legal in Europe and anywhere else with actual safety standards.
  - guitarbill 1y ago
    Downvote or not, it's true: > NHTSA conducts frontal, side and rollover tests because these types account for the majority of crashes on America's roadways. > IIHS tests evaluate two aspects of safety: crashworthiness — how well a vehicle protects its occupants in a crash — and crash avoidance and mitigation — technology that can prevent a crash or lessen its severity. > As well as assessing how well cars protect their occupants, Euro NCAP tests how well they protect those vulnerable road users – pedestrians and cyclists – with whom they might collide.
    - soared 1y ago
      NHTSA outlawed hood ornaments purely for pedestrian safety, so it’s not 100% correct.
      - hamdingers 1y ago
        One thing for pedestrians in 1968 and nothing since then. I'd say that's four, maybe five nines of correctness.
    - potato3732842 1y ago
      That's misleading. They don't test for pedestrian safety as part of the normal tests. But they test for it generally, not specific to any model and use those results to inform their rules about what can and can't be sold. Same story with rollover testing. This is why hood ornaments mostly died and flip up headlights fully died. The NHTSA doesn't write rules that ban specific features. You can do anything it meets the requirements. You can make brake hoses out of woven spaghetti if you want. It'll probably cost you a lot to get them to a performance point where they meet the rules though. Furthermore, the NHTSA doesn't do most testing. The testing must be done and the testing needs to meet NHTSA standards but the OEMs are free to DIY it or outsource.
      - guitarbill 1y ago
        > Same story with rollover testing. That's for occupants. > Furthermore, the NHTSA doesn't do most testing. Which is why I quoted IIHS and other non-US testing. > NHTSA standards Which standards are for e.g. pedestrian safety? The hood ornament thing? > That's misleading. They don't test for pedestrian safety as part of the normal tests. But they test for it generally No, it isn't and no they didn't/don't. E.g. GAO report from 2020 [0]: > NHTSA’s last substantial update of NCAP was in July 2008 (with changes effective for model year 2011 vehicles). This update established additional crash tests and technical standards to protect vehicle occupants, but did not include pedestrian safety tests. Or from NHTSA itself in 2022 [1], although note this is a "proposal" and "recommendations": > For the first time ever, NCAP includes technology recommendations not only for drivers and passengers but for road users outside the vehicle, like pedestrians. The proposal [...]. We look forward to reviewing the comments we receive and considering them as we complete this important work.” They will/might, by adopting Euro NCAP [2]: > This final decision notice adds a crashworthiness pedestrian protection program to the New Car Assessment Program (NCAP) to evaluate new model year vehicles’ abilities to mitigate pedestrian injuries. Based on its previous research, NHTSA concurs with and adopts most of the European New Car Assessment Programme’s (Euro NCAP) pedestrian crashworthiness assessment methods [...] > These changes to the New Car Assessment Program are effective for the 2026 model year. But as of yet, this does not appear on their NCAP ratings: https://www.nhtsa.gov/ratings/resources-related-nhtsas-new-car-assessment-program https://www.nhtsa.gov/ratings/resources-related-nhtsas-new-c... [0]: https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-20-419.pdf https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-20-419.pdf [1]: https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/five-star-safety-ratings-program-updates-proposed https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/five-star-safety-rating... [2]: https://www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.gov/files/2024-11/NCAP-Final-Decision-Notice-Crashworthiness-Pedestrian-Protection-11182024-web.pdf https://www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.gov/files/2024-11/NCAP-Fin...
  - chrisco255 1y ago
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    - wrigby 1y ago
      What about if you’re hit at 10mph? Of course any crash at 55 is fatal for a cyclist, but most impacts with cyclists don’t occur at highway speeds.
    - LoganDark 1y ago
      The Cybertruck also bursts into flames, has body panels that fall off, and has an accelerator pedal that can spontaneously disassemble itself into getting jammed in the floored position. (I think they eventually fixed the accelerator pedal thing. Still a super bad look.) Also, if you get hit by a Cybertruck at 55mph, the sharp angles are going to cut you far deeper than a Mini Cooper would. You're not going to walk away from it either way, but you're probably more likely to perish from the Cybertruck. (That doesn't stop me from wanting a Cybertruck but that's just because it's cool in other ways. I don't know if I'd want one to be my daily driver, but it is very cool.)
    - DanHulton 1y ago
      There are more situations than just "a 55mph head-on crash" that need to be considered. What about getting clipped at 5mph when the driver is turning, and on a Cybertruck you've now got a brutal gash dug into you. And a camera that covers a full 360 isn't really all that useful when you're making a normal turn and not looking at the camera, but have your normal vision heavily obscured by the massive frame. It's not perfectly safe. If it were, it would be legal everywhere and it's not.
    - amarant 1y ago
      The reason it's not allowed in European roads is that the cold rolled steel is too hard, and the edges are too sharp. At 55mph perhaps this doesn't matter, but most vehicle-pedestrian collisions occur at far lower speeds than that, and then it absolutely does matter. I self identify as a Tesla fanboy, the model Y is the best car in the world in my opinion, but even I have to admit the cybertruck has several fatal flaws and just isn't a good vehicle. On paper it has a bunch of things going for it, for example it is (as far as I know) the cheapest fully electric vehicle with air suspension. In practice it all falls apart (both literally and figuratively) I wish Tesla would try again and build a new truck, without the cyber and the cold rolled stainless steel. Stick to the design language of the other Tesla models this time. Let Franz do his thing.
- potato3732842 1y ago
  Because the individual angles and feature sizes and locations aren't all that egregious when compared to everything else you find on modern pickups. Look at the current Tundra let alone a Chevy 2500. What's different is the complete lack of other styling features to soften the look. Of course it wouldn't pass safety in Europe, but neither would the other stuff mentioned.
- monocasa 1y ago
  Unfortunately Rivian somehow has even worse reliability than Tesla. And you can buy a BYD in America. There's just a pre-Trump 100% tariff on Chinese EVs with bipartisan support that isn't going away any time soon.
  - toomuchtodo 1y ago
    I tried with much effort to import a BYD, and the federal government slowed me down every step of the way to where I gave up around regime change last November. If you have a way I can buy a BYD today, regardless of cost, in the US, I would be interested. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39992428 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39992428
    - monocasa 1y ago
      How far did you get, and what do you mean "regardless of cost"? The big issue is going to be getting the vehicle to pass FMVSS, and it looks like no one has successfully done it. Have you talked to an RI to see if they know why?
      - testing22321 1y ago
        I’m going through the RI process now for a vehicle ( not EV, not Chinese, not BYD) If a vehicle was never sold in the US and is not FMVSS compliant (with a sticker), then the RI has to prove every piece of consequence IS compliant. Airbags tested to DOT standards. Headlights. Taillights. Seatbelts. Wipers. Crash safety. Dash lights, warning lights, backup camera FOV. TPMS. The list is like 10,000 things long. Probably it does meet 99% of them , and the non-compliant things are an easy fix (we’re changing speedo in mine to mph). The trick is you have to document and prove every single item on the list, often with lab testing. It takes years, and often millions of dollars.
  - fragmede 1y ago
    You can't. You don't want an old, non-electric one (presumably), so you can't use that loophole to register one. So unless you're the CEO of Ford (who has all the connections in the world), you won't be able to bring it in and register it, and depending on the state, you have to register it, even if it's not operating on public lands. I will pay $5k on top of the $8k base price and $8k for 100% tarrif, for a total of $21k for a BYD Seagull in California if you can get one delivered and registered to me. I'm sure there's collectors out there offering way more.
- chrisco255 1y ago
  BYDs are never coming to the American market.
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    - tick_tock_tick 1y ago
      I'm not sure if the USA will allow them in Canada either. Pushing back against China is one of the few things both parties agree with right now.
    - Jeremy1026 1y ago
      Canada's auto industry is tied to the US's. As much as BYD coming to the US would hurt all of North America's auto industry. BYD coming to Canada would also hurt the auto industry. They are just too interconnected.
      - 9rx 1y ago
        > Canada's auto industry is tied to the US's. As is Mexico's, but BYD is available there — as well in a number of other North American countries. > BYD coming to Canada would also hurt the auto industry. To be fair, it is already hurting from the attacks launched by the USA. Canada has been considering partnering with China instead as a result of this. BYD is looking more and more realistic.
        AlexandrB 1y ago
        > Canada has been considering partnering with China instead as a result of this. Also known as: "out of the frying pan and into the fire".
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- NoGravitas 1y ago
  Relevant XKCD is the most recent: #3167 "If I don't install more whirling spiked clubs, I'll be destroyed by the other drivers..."
- tobrien6 1y ago
  BYD is overhyped in the US for some reason. In the countries where they are available, they are considered decent budget vehicles. There's a reason why the Model Y is still the best seller in China.
  - sfjailbird 1y ago
    X-Pengs are where it's at. They are taking over fast in Europe with better cars for less money.
  - mikestew 1y ago
    Same country that seems to disproportionately like Buicks? Yeah, “there’s a reason”, but it might not be what you think it is.
  - MangoToupe 1y ago
    > In the countries where they are available, they are considered decent budget vehicles. Yes, and I want a decent budget vehicle here.
  - shagmin 1y ago
    Some would say Tesla has been over hyped as well.
    - dzhiurgis 1y ago
      They can say, but in open markets Teslas sell better than cheaper BYD’s.
      - ben_w 1y ago
        1. Are there any truly open markets for cars? 2. Tesla China has factories in China, was still #8 in Chinese market, with BYD at #1, if this source from 2024 is correct: https://carnewschina.com/2024/07/14/best-selling-vehicle-brands-ranking-in-china-first-half-of-2024/ https://carnewschina.com/2024/07/14/best-selling-vehicle-bra...
- jghn 1y ago
  > every time I see one of these my first thought is Even ignoring the parts falling off & the safety, every time I see one of these my first thought is "who saw a picture of this and said 'yep, that's what I want'"
ilamont 1y ago
The issue stems from the primer applied before gluing the optional light bar to the windshield (no fasteners are used in the attachment of the light bar). Is that typical in the industry, parts or components being glued onto an exterior surface instead of fastened?
- addaon 1y ago
  Depends on the industry. For car companies, no. But as Tesla reminds us constantly, they're not a car company, they're a robotics / AI company. Those generally focus less on how to build cars.
  - vel0city 1y ago
    Tons of cars made by companies other than Tesla have some parts attached by adhesives. Lots of decorative trim pieces and reflectors may be attached with adhesives instead of screws. Its not like there are a lot of screws involved in attaching windshields. There have been other companies with recalls related to adhesive failures, but it seems Tesla has adhesive failures far more frequently than others and seems to use adhesives for a lot more of their body parts.
    - guywithahat 1y ago
      You shouldn't be getting downvoted, you're right. Adhesives can be incredibly strong, and it's common for even larger panels to be glued on. For whatever reason a lot of British cars in particular (range rover, jaguar, etc) use bonded and riveted frames instead of welding for their aluminum framed vehicles, with lots of components just being glued on.
- genter 1y ago
  Windshields themselves are glued into the frame, and have been for years. They are a major part of the structure of the vehicle, as well as an important safety device, and there isn't a problem with them comining loose. Badges are attached with double sided tape, but obviously those are a lot smaller than a light bar.
etchalon 1y ago
What a stupid car.
- amelius 1y ago
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- kakacik 1y ago
  Its american car, whatever that means. Rest of the world considers it properly fugly and most western countries ban it due to lack of any pedestrian protection.
  - bigfishrunning 1y ago
    Most Americans think it's fugly too
timenotwasted 1y ago
I know Tesla and the various models have their issues but the Cybertruck and the rest of the Tesla models seem like they are made from two completely different companies. Every time I see one of these driving around trim pieces are missing from them which I don't recall seeing from any other brand.
- ModernMech 1y ago
  That's because Musk personally oversaw the design of the Cybertruck and likely rejected all pleas to make sensible decisions. Musk did not design the other models. Just like how SpaceX and Tesla and Twitter seem like they have three different CEOs; the degree of their competency is inversely proportional to the amount of day-to-day feedback Musk has into their operations.
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  - estearum 1y ago
    Musk's superpower is cult-building. His fatal flaw is that he has no idea that is his superpower.
    - baxtr 1y ago
      "No idea" doesn’t sound right. I’d say he thinks he has many superpowers, but maybe in reality just has one.
    - jordanb 1y ago
      His cult is a very specific type of person. The general public finds him repulsive as demonstrated by his time in government. He's a cult leader with surprisingly horrible political instincts
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mlindner 1y ago
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- gulfofamerica 1y ago
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- monooso 1y ago
  The title seems entirely accurate.
  - mlindner 11mo ago
    The title at the time I wrote the post was different.
bob1029 1y ago
Looking at the actual service manual, there appear to be no fewer than 10 warnings related to the use of the primer alone. There is also a separate step involving cleaning with IPA. This procedure seems like it belongs in a chemistry lab more than a car shop. I can't imagine the average mechanic not fucking this up in some important way.
blinkingled 1y ago
> Tesla’s fix will involve an additional redundancy to keep the lightbar affixed to the windshield, should the glue fail. Good news - it only affects 6000 vehicles with the optional lightbar which is dealer installed. Bad news - Tesla finds it ok to let its dealers do glued lightbar installations and can't really fix the glue failing part so they are adding redundancy.
hsnewman 1y ago
I can't believe they are still selling that abomination. The styling is not the same as their rest of the lineup, which was a major mistake. I personally wouldn't want a car that relies on glue that much.
- bdangubic 1y ago
  I like the glue, you can fix all these issues yourself by raiding your kids desk for some school glue :)
- qwerpy 1y ago
  One man’s abomination is another man’s ideal family car :) There is no other consumer car that can self-drive from start to finish for an entire trip. That alone will keep me on Tesla until the others catch up. Crash tests have shown that it’s excellent at protecting its occupants, which matters to me as a father of two. The cyberpunk aesthetic, whole home battery backup, and large secured truck bed are just icing on the cake. I had the trim glue issue fixed proactively (it’s now secured mechanically) and I don’t have a light bar so the new issue doesn’t affect me. Granted, it’s not great that they opted for glue for that use case.
  - GuinansEyebrows 1y ago
    > The cyberpunk aesthetic the dystopian, authoritarian, hypercapitalist hellscape aesthetic is icing on the cake for a family vehicle?
    - qwerpy 1y ago
      That's a lot of your own judgment you've layered on top of it. For a more joyful interpretation of cybertruck aesthetics, do a image search for "cybertruck trick or treat". I volunteered to provide my truck for my kid's school Halloween party and decorated it to look like the chomp chomp monster from Mario. Kids loved it. (sure it's not cyberpunk but it's an example of how the look can be used for family friendly innocent fun)
jlv2 1y ago
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chollida1 1y ago
https://electrek.co/2025/11/13/tesla-recalls-over-10000-powerwalls-in-the-us-after-several-fires/ https://electrek.co/2025/11/13/tesla-recalls-over-10000-powe... They've also recalled powerwalks. Tesla is great at being visionary, their Achilles heal has always been their weak manufacturing. Which makes sense, its the really hard part about being in the car or battery business.
- maxlin 1y ago
  I'd hardly call it "weak" with gigafactories setting new standards in efficiency, and Tesla being the only "recently" founded US carmaker making massive amounts of cars. All while they have more vertical integration than the competition. Cybertrucks are for pioneers. If you want something super reliable, just get a "boring" Model Y. They've improved all parts of the design continuously, the cars are indistinguishable from the early ones when it comes to finish quality
  - bamboozled 1y ago
    Cybertrucks are for pioneers. If you want something super reliable, just get a "boring" Model Y. What? You think people are paying that kind of money to be beta-test a car?
    - maxlin 1y ago
      Kind of? That is what how the early adopter "section" of buyers work. It's not a secret that supercars have more arbitrary faults too, and repairs aren't as available as getting your Corolla running again. CB has a lot of experimental stuff because it's truly one of a kind of a car. Most buyers know this. Comfier and more reliable than a car made purely for showing off of course though, it's a car that truly looks like it comes from the future but that you can still daily drive by design.
  - barbazoo 1y ago
    > If you want something super reliable, just get a "boring" Model Y Not according to the many comments here about Model Y.
websiteapi 1y ago
I wish they made the Cyber(mini)van instead. oh well
gbhdrew 1y ago
The least of its problems IMO, when the Cybertruck looks like it was designed to inflict maximum harm to pedestrians in a crash. The fact that such an obviously destructive design is legal on public roads should be setting off alarm bells at the USDOT and NHTSA.
- vardump 1y ago
  Not only Cybertruck. Also other trucks like Ford F150 etc.
  - dymk 1y ago
    Trucks in general are awful for pedestrians and other motorists, but the Cybertruck is made specifically of sharp angles that will rip and tear more than a big flat vertical wall running into you.
    - babylon5 1y ago
      The front is rounded which is the place you'll hit in the vast majority of cases.
      - dymk 1y ago
        Cool, I get to have a slightly convex wall run into me before then get pulled under the tires
        babylon5 11mo ago
        That disagrees with your statement about the cybertruck.
    - rishabhaiover 1y ago
      clear case of bias infecting judgment.
    - Aloisius 1y ago
emptybits 1y ago
I dodged a bullet. I bought into the original heavy stainless steel exoskeleton concept, which they never delivered on. So they had my deposit. Then it took me a year and a half (!!) to get my deposit back from time of request, a dozen documented follow-ups on phone, email, and in-person at the stealership. Tesla’s excuse: While they were happy to take a Canadian’s money with fully refundable deposit terms, they had not contemplated actually ever refunding a Canadian. The deposit was made by credit card. The only option offered for refund was a deposit to an American bank account. It seems like no aspect of the Cybertruck project was done well.
- tejohnso 1y ago
  What part of the stainless exoskeleton did they not deliver on? https://www.tesla.com/learn/superior-durability-cybertruck-hfs-hard-freaking-stainless?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://www.tesla.com/learn/superior-durability-cybertruck-h... I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if promises weren't kept or expectations not met. This is the same company that has a product called Full Self Driving that cannot fully self drive.
  - SoftTalker 1y ago
    Was the concept as hideously ugly as the actual design? I still don't understand how people can drive those things in public.
    - dhosek 1y ago
      Whenever I see one in the wild, I point and laugh like Nelson from the Simpsons. Ha-ha!
      - brewdad 1y ago
        I let them know I think they are number one. Choice of digit varies on my mood.
    - dh2022 1y ago
      The drivers probably have the mental development of a middle-schooler - these trucks are FIRE with 7-grader boys!
chrisco255 1y ago
So the TLDR is an optional non-factory lightbar addon that was added to the top of about 6100 Cybertrucks used an improper adhesive to secure the bar.
boxerab 1y ago
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chazzalpha 1y ago
I don't know how any Tesla investor can justify paying anyone $1 trillion when the products he makes keep falling apart.
- rootusrootus 1y ago
  By definition the same people propping up the stock price even with a forward PE of ~200. Lots of wishful thinking.
- hnburnsy 1y ago
  Making cars is hard, just ask Ford... >As of this story's publication, Thursday, September 4, 2025, Ford has issued 109 recalls that have covered 7,871,344 vehicles. Of course, quite a few of those cars are repeat offenders, but you get the point. It's staggering. >Of those 109 recalls, 26 of them are re-recalls. That means they're recalls on recalls Ford has already carried out, >Read More: https://www.jalopnik.com/1958179/all-ford-vehicle-recalls-2025/ https://www.jalopnik.com/1958179/all-ford-vehicle-recalls-20...
  - nova22033 1y ago
    What is the PE for Ford v/s the PE for Tesla.
- hdivider 1y ago
  This always reminds me of a fragment of lost tragic ancient Greek verse, quoted only in Aristotle's Art of Rhetoric: Often, when the gods bring great prosperity as a gift for men They do so not out of goodwill towards them But so that their ruin may be more conspicuous.
hnburnsy 1y ago
I wonder if this extremely dangerours recall was posted on HN... >Ford Recalls 29,500 F-150 Lightning EVs for Loss of Steering Risk
- drivers99 1y ago
  1. yes, just do a search: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44162184 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44162184
  - hnburnsy 1y ago
    Nice, thx!
- thethimble 1y ago
  This doesn't fit the narrative of "Elon bad" therefore the Ford 29k vehicle steering loss recall gets two upvotes whereas the Tesla 6k vehicle dealer-installer light bar issue gets hundreds of upvotes.
billy99k 1y ago
Now check how many recalls there are with companies like Ford. Recalls are pretty much standard in the vehicle industry.
- hnburnsy 1y ago
  > Now check how many recalls there are with companies like Ford. Recalls are pretty much standard in the vehicle industry. As of this story's publication, Thursday, September 4, 2025, Ford has issued 109 recalls that have covered 7,871,344 vehicles. Of course, quite a few of those cars are repeat offenders, but you get the point. It's staggering. Of those 109 recalls, 26 of them are re-recalls. That means they're recalls on recalls Ford has already carried out
wnevets 1y ago
Can it self drive through a lake yet?
- Havoc 1y ago
  I guess if you get out to push it is technically driverless
- blisterpeanuts 1y ago
  It can wade through about 2.5 feet of water.
  - wnevets 1y ago
    does that require the package that allows the truck to function as a boat?
specialist 1y ago
It's a beta release product. Of course it has problems. I don't think any of Cybertruck's growing pains are remarkable. IIRC, Tesla skipped the industry's normal typical period of real world testing for new platforms. That should have scared off most buyers. -- Cybertruck should have been rolled out like the Roadster. Exclusive, prestige, wrap-around customer service. The superfans would happily pay to participate. There's always a (modest) market for niche vehicles, like the Cybertruck. eg Subaru Brat, VW The Thing (name?). -- Cybertruck has so much innovation, cool tech. 48V, drive-by-wire, the modular internet bus thing, 4 wheel steering, even bigger castings, etc. Tesla was (initially) right to de-risk those things by using them in a (much) lower volume vehicle. And field test everything ahead of the high volume Model 2 / Robotaxi. -- The big, IMHO, mistake was juicing the stock price by hyping Cybertruck as Tesla's next home run.
aaroninsf 1y ago
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montroser 1y ago
> "Tesla Service will inspect the light bar and install an additional mechanical attachment or replace the light bar using tape to adhere the light bar to the windshield as well as an additional mechanical attachment as necessary, free of charge." Tape? The fix is to add some tape? At least it's free...
- Havoc 1y ago
  To be fair that is on brand
- hnburnsy 1y ago
  Go watch Mat Alexander rebuild super cars and you will see things like parts attached with glue and fenders shimmed with plastic inserts and welds that look like a drunk did them.
snovymgodym 1y ago
I do not like the Cybertruck, the company that makes it, nor the man who owns said company. That being said, I still appreciate seeing them out on the road as an example of what's effectively a concept car that made it to production. It also looks cool and stands apart aesthetically from pretty much everything else on the market, even if the giant 1-piece wiper and black plastic wheel well trim pieces mar the clean lines of the original design. I'm not sufficiently familiar with the data to say whether or not Cybertrucks or Teslas have significantly more design problems or QC issues than other manufacturers, or if news outlets just latch onto the stories more because Musk's public behavior makes him such a lightning rod for controversy. Regardless, I think the Cybertruck will go down in history as an iconic car and a symbol of the 2020s, even if it was an objectively bad product (think DeLorean).
- sjsdaiuasgdia 1y ago
  > It also looks cool No. No, it does not.
- platevoltage 1y ago
  The only reason any non-car enthusiasts remember the DeLorean is because it was cast in a popular movie franchise.
  - philistine 1y ago
    Once Bob Gale is dead and we get our inevitable Back to The Future remake: Doc, you made a time machine ... out of a Cybertruck?
nova22033 1y ago
https://insideevs.com/news/667723/musk-estimates-tesla-could-sell-250000-500000-cybertrucks-yearly/ https://insideevs.com/news/667723/musk-estimates-tesla-could... Musk Estimates Tesla Could Sell 250,000-500,000 Cybertrucks Yearly https://insideevs.com/news/766162/tesla-cybertruck-sales-q2-h1-2025/ https://insideevs.com/news/766162/tesla-cybertruck-sales-q2-... Tesla Cybertruck Sales Fall Dramatically To Their Lowest Level In A Year
- riffraff 1y ago
  Not to be deterred, the latest package has an objective of ten million robo taxis in ten years.
fred_is_fred 1y ago
This is real-time aerodynamics and weight reduction. Elon is 10 steps ahead of you plebes.
Whatarethese 1y ago
It's actually not a bad truck if you bought one in the past half year or so. They worked out a majority of the kinks. FSD works really darn good as well.
- thethimble 1y ago
  Glad you like it! About to order one now as a baby car!
indoordin0saur 1y ago
Been seeing tons of Cybertrucks on the road. I have to admit that they seem to have become a lot more popular than I expected.
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278 points by 2OEH8eoCRo0 1y ago

Even presuming pieces weren't falling off, every time I see one of these my first thought is how did this pass safety standards (e.g. the sharp corners/blades/edges; pedestrian-strike setups). Now add on flying corners/blades/edges ... even less enthused. ---- I finally drove in a Rivian — and while I prefer the hybrid drivetrains — it was exceptionally nice. As an American, I can't wait for BYD to offer test drives here.

hamdingers 1y ago
> how did this pass safety standards In the US, the safety standards consider only the occupants of the car. The safety of pedestrians, cyclists, and occupants of other cars are not considered. This was looking like it would change but with the current administration I doubt it. The Cybertruck is not legal in Europe and anywhere else with actual safety standards.
- guitarbill 1y ago
  Downvote or not, it's true: > NHTSA conducts frontal, side and rollover tests because these types account for the majority of crashes on America's roadways. > IIHS tests evaluate two aspects of safety: crashworthiness — how well a vehicle protects its occupants in a crash — and crash avoidance and mitigation — technology that can prevent a crash or lessen its severity. > As well as assessing how well cars protect their occupants, Euro NCAP tests how well they protect those vulnerable road users – pedestrians and cyclists – with whom they might collide.
  - soared 1y ago
    NHTSA outlawed hood ornaments purely for pedestrian safety, so it’s not 100% correct.
    - hamdingers 1y ago
      One thing for pedestrians in 1968 and nothing since then. I'd say that's four, maybe five nines of correctness.
  - potato3732842 1y ago
    That's misleading. They don't test for pedestrian safety as part of the normal tests. But they test for it generally, not specific to any model and use those results to inform their rules about what can and can't be sold. Same story with rollover testing. This is why hood ornaments mostly died and flip up headlights fully died. The NHTSA doesn't write rules that ban specific features. You can do anything it meets the requirements. You can make brake hoses out of woven spaghetti if you want. It'll probably cost you a lot to get them to a performance point where they meet the rules though. Furthermore, the NHTSA doesn't do most testing. The testing must be done and the testing needs to meet NHTSA standards but the OEMs are free to DIY it or outsource.
    - guitarbill 1y ago
      > Same story with rollover testing. That's for occupants. > Furthermore, the NHTSA doesn't do most testing. Which is why I quoted IIHS and other non-US testing. > NHTSA standards Which standards are for e.g. pedestrian safety? The hood ornament thing? > That's misleading. They don't test for pedestrian safety as part of the normal tests. But they test for it generally No, it isn't and no they didn't/don't. E.g. GAO report from 2020 [0]: > NHTSA’s last substantial update of NCAP was in July 2008 (with changes effective for model year 2011 vehicles). This update established additional crash tests and technical standards to protect vehicle occupants, but did not include pedestrian safety tests. Or from NHTSA itself in 2022 [1], although note this is a "proposal" and "recommendations": > For the first time ever, NCAP includes technology recommendations not only for drivers and passengers but for road users outside the vehicle, like pedestrians. The proposal [...]. We look forward to reviewing the comments we receive and considering them as we complete this important work.” They will/might, by adopting Euro NCAP [2]: > This final decision notice adds a crashworthiness pedestrian protection program to the New Car Assessment Program (NCAP) to evaluate new model year vehicles’ abilities to mitigate pedestrian injuries. Based on its previous research, NHTSA concurs with and adopts most of the European New Car Assessment Programme’s (Euro NCAP) pedestrian crashworthiness assessment methods [...] > These changes to the New Car Assessment Program are effective for the 2026 model year. But as of yet, this does not appear on their NCAP ratings: https://www.nhtsa.gov/ratings/resources-related-nhtsas-new-car-assessment-program https://www.nhtsa.gov/ratings/resources-related-nhtsas-new-c... [0]: https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-20-419.pdf https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-20-419.pdf [1]: https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/five-star-safety-ratings-program-updates-proposed https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/five-star-safety-rating... [2]: https://www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.gov/files/2024-11/NCAP-Final-Decision-Notice-Crashworthiness-Pedestrian-Protection-11182024-web.pdf https://www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.gov/files/2024-11/NCAP-Fin...
- chrisco255 1y ago
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  - wrigby 1y ago
    What about if you’re hit at 10mph? Of course any crash at 55 is fatal for a cyclist, but most impacts with cyclists don’t occur at highway speeds.
  - LoganDark 1y ago
    The Cybertruck also bursts into flames, has body panels that fall off, and has an accelerator pedal that can spontaneously disassemble itself into getting jammed in the floored position. (I think they eventually fixed the accelerator pedal thing. Still a super bad look.) Also, if you get hit by a Cybertruck at 55mph, the sharp angles are going to cut you far deeper than a Mini Cooper would. You're not going to walk away from it either way, but you're probably more likely to perish from the Cybertruck. (That doesn't stop me from wanting a Cybertruck but that's just because it's cool in other ways. I don't know if I'd want one to be my daily driver, but it is very cool.)
  - DanHulton 1y ago
    There are more situations than just "a 55mph head-on crash" that need to be considered. What about getting clipped at 5mph when the driver is turning, and on a Cybertruck you've now got a brutal gash dug into you. And a camera that covers a full 360 isn't really all that useful when you're making a normal turn and not looking at the camera, but have your normal vision heavily obscured by the massive frame. It's not perfectly safe. If it were, it would be legal everywhere and it's not.
  - amarant 1y ago
    The reason it's not allowed in European roads is that the cold rolled steel is too hard, and the edges are too sharp. At 55mph perhaps this doesn't matter, but most vehicle-pedestrian collisions occur at far lower speeds than that, and then it absolutely does matter. I self identify as a Tesla fanboy, the model Y is the best car in the world in my opinion, but even I have to admit the cybertruck has several fatal flaws and just isn't a good vehicle. On paper it has a bunch of things going for it, for example it is (as far as I know) the cheapest fully electric vehicle with air suspension. In practice it all falls apart (both literally and figuratively) I wish Tesla would try again and build a new truck, without the cyber and the cold rolled stainless steel. Stick to the design language of the other Tesla models this time. Let Franz do his thing.
potato3732842 1y ago
Because the individual angles and feature sizes and locations aren't all that egregious when compared to everything else you find on modern pickups. Look at the current Tundra let alone a Chevy 2500. What's different is the complete lack of other styling features to soften the look. Of course it wouldn't pass safety in Europe, but neither would the other stuff mentioned.
monocasa 1y ago
Unfortunately Rivian somehow has even worse reliability than Tesla. And you can buy a BYD in America. There's just a pre-Trump 100% tariff on Chinese EVs with bipartisan support that isn't going away any time soon.
- toomuchtodo 1y ago
  I tried with much effort to import a BYD, and the federal government slowed me down every step of the way to where I gave up around regime change last November. If you have a way I can buy a BYD today, regardless of cost, in the US, I would be interested. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39992428 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39992428
  - monocasa 1y ago
    How far did you get, and what do you mean "regardless of cost"? The big issue is going to be getting the vehicle to pass FMVSS, and it looks like no one has successfully done it. Have you talked to an RI to see if they know why?
    - testing22321 1y ago
      I’m going through the RI process now for a vehicle ( not EV, not Chinese, not BYD) If a vehicle was never sold in the US and is not FMVSS compliant (with a sticker), then the RI has to prove every piece of consequence IS compliant. Airbags tested to DOT standards. Headlights. Taillights. Seatbelts. Wipers. Crash safety. Dash lights, warning lights, backup camera FOV. TPMS. The list is like 10,000 things long. Probably it does meet 99% of them , and the non-compliant things are an easy fix (we’re changing speedo in mine to mph). The trick is you have to document and prove every single item on the list, often with lab testing. It takes years, and often millions of dollars.
- fragmede 1y ago
  You can't. You don't want an old, non-electric one (presumably), so you can't use that loophole to register one. So unless you're the CEO of Ford (who has all the connections in the world), you won't be able to bring it in and register it, and depending on the state, you have to register it, even if it's not operating on public lands. I will pay $5k on top of the $8k base price and $8k for 100% tarrif, for a total of $21k for a BYD Seagull in California if you can get one delivered and registered to me. I'm sure there's collectors out there offering way more.
chrisco255 1y ago
BYDs are never coming to the American market.
- realo 1y ago
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  - tick_tock_tick 1y ago
    I'm not sure if the USA will allow them in Canada either. Pushing back against China is one of the few things both parties agree with right now.
  - Jeremy1026 1y ago
    Canada's auto industry is tied to the US's. As much as BYD coming to the US would hurt all of North America's auto industry. BYD coming to Canada would also hurt the auto industry. They are just too interconnected.
    - 9rx 1y ago
      > Canada's auto industry is tied to the US's. As is Mexico's, but BYD is available there — as well in a number of other North American countries. > BYD coming to Canada would also hurt the auto industry. To be fair, it is already hurting from the attacks launched by the USA. Canada has been considering partnering with China instead as a result of this. BYD is looking more and more realistic.
      - AlexandrB 1y ago
        > Canada has been considering partnering with China instead as a result of this. Also known as: "out of the frying pan and into the fire".
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NoGravitas 1y ago
Relevant XKCD is the most recent: #3167 "If I don't install more whirling spiked clubs, I'll be destroyed by the other drivers..."
tobrien6 1y ago
BYD is overhyped in the US for some reason. In the countries where they are available, they are considered decent budget vehicles. There's a reason why the Model Y is still the best seller in China.
- sfjailbird 1y ago
  X-Pengs are where it's at. They are taking over fast in Europe with better cars for less money.
- mikestew 1y ago
  Same country that seems to disproportionately like Buicks? Yeah, “there’s a reason”, but it might not be what you think it is.
- MangoToupe 1y ago
  > In the countries where they are available, they are considered decent budget vehicles. Yes, and I want a decent budget vehicle here.
- shagmin 1y ago
  Some would say Tesla has been over hyped as well.
  - dzhiurgis 1y ago
    They can say, but in open markets Teslas sell better than cheaper BYD’s.
    - ben_w 1y ago
      1. Are there any truly open markets for cars? 2. Tesla China has factories in China, was still #8 in Chinese market, with BYD at #1, if this source from 2024 is correct: https://carnewschina.com/2024/07/14/best-selling-vehicle-brands-ranking-in-china-first-half-of-2024/ https://carnewschina.com/2024/07/14/best-selling-vehicle-bra...
jghn 1y ago
> every time I see one of these my first thought is Even ignoring the parts falling off & the safety, every time I see one of these my first thought is "who saw a picture of this and said 'yep, that's what I want'"

ilamont 1y ago

The issue stems from the primer applied before gluing the optional light bar to the windshield (no fasteners are used in the attachment of the light bar). Is that typical in the industry, parts or components being glued onto an exterior surface instead of fastened?

addaon 1y ago
Depends on the industry. For car companies, no. But as Tesla reminds us constantly, they're not a car company, they're a robotics / AI company. Those generally focus less on how to build cars.
- vel0city 1y ago
  Tons of cars made by companies other than Tesla have some parts attached by adhesives. Lots of decorative trim pieces and reflectors may be attached with adhesives instead of screws. Its not like there are a lot of screws involved in attaching windshields. There have been other companies with recalls related to adhesive failures, but it seems Tesla has adhesive failures far more frequently than others and seems to use adhesives for a lot more of their body parts.
  - guywithahat 1y ago
    You shouldn't be getting downvoted, you're right. Adhesives can be incredibly strong, and it's common for even larger panels to be glued on. For whatever reason a lot of British cars in particular (range rover, jaguar, etc) use bonded and riveted frames instead of welding for their aluminum framed vehicles, with lots of components just being glued on.
genter 1y ago
Windshields themselves are glued into the frame, and have been for years. They are a major part of the structure of the vehicle, as well as an important safety device, and there isn't a problem with them comining loose. Badges are attached with double sided tape, but obviously those are a lot smaller than a light bar.

etchalon 1y ago

What a stupid car.

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kakacik 1y ago
Its american car, whatever that means. Rest of the world considers it properly fugly and most western countries ban it due to lack of any pedestrian protection.
- bigfishrunning 1y ago
  Most Americans think it's fugly too

timenotwasted 1y ago

I know Tesla and the various models have their issues but the Cybertruck and the rest of the Tesla models seem like they are made from two completely different companies. Every time I see one of these driving around trim pieces are missing from them which I don't recall seeing from any other brand.

ModernMech 1y ago
That's because Musk personally oversaw the design of the Cybertruck and likely rejected all pleas to make sensible decisions. Musk did not design the other models. Just like how SpaceX and Tesla and Twitter seem like they have three different CEOs; the degree of their competency is inversely proportional to the amount of day-to-day feedback Musk has into their operations.
- toomuchtodo 1y ago
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- estearum 1y ago
  Musk's superpower is cult-building. His fatal flaw is that he has no idea that is his superpower.
  - baxtr 1y ago
    "No idea" doesn’t sound right. I’d say he thinks he has many superpowers, but maybe in reality just has one.
  - jordanb 1y ago
    His cult is a very specific type of person. The general public finds him repulsive as demonstrated by his time in government. He's a cult leader with surprisingly horrible political instincts
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monooso 1y ago
The title seems entirely accurate.
- mlindner 11mo ago
  The title at the time I wrote the post was different.

bob1029 1y ago

Looking at the actual service manual, there appear to be no fewer than 10 warnings related to the use of the primer alone. There is also a separate step involving cleaning with IPA. This procedure seems like it belongs in a chemistry lab more than a car shop. I can't imagine the average mechanic not fucking this up in some important way.

blinkingled 1y ago

> Tesla’s fix will involve an additional redundancy to keep the lightbar affixed to the windshield, should the glue fail. Good news - it only affects 6000 vehicles with the optional lightbar which is dealer installed. Bad news - Tesla finds it ok to let its dealers do glued lightbar installations and can't really fix the glue failing part so they are adding redundancy.

hsnewman 1y ago

I can't believe they are still selling that abomination. The styling is not the same as their rest of the lineup, which was a major mistake. I personally wouldn't want a car that relies on glue that much.

bdangubic 1y ago
I like the glue, you can fix all these issues yourself by raiding your kids desk for some school glue :)
qwerpy 1y ago
One man’s abomination is another man’s ideal family car :) There is no other consumer car that can self-drive from start to finish for an entire trip. That alone will keep me on Tesla until the others catch up. Crash tests have shown that it’s excellent at protecting its occupants, which matters to me as a father of two. The cyberpunk aesthetic, whole home battery backup, and large secured truck bed are just icing on the cake. I had the trim glue issue fixed proactively (it’s now secured mechanically) and I don’t have a light bar so the new issue doesn’t affect me. Granted, it’s not great that they opted for glue for that use case.
- GuinansEyebrows 1y ago
  > The cyberpunk aesthetic the dystopian, authoritarian, hypercapitalist hellscape aesthetic is icing on the cake for a family vehicle?
  - qwerpy 1y ago
    That's a lot of your own judgment you've layered on top of it. For a more joyful interpretation of cybertruck aesthetics, do a image search for "cybertruck trick or treat". I volunteered to provide my truck for my kid's school Halloween party and decorated it to look like the chomp chomp monster from Mario. Kids loved it. (sure it's not cyberpunk but it's an example of how the look can be used for family friendly innocent fun)

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chollida1 1y ago

https://electrek.co/2025/11/13/tesla-recalls-over-10000-powerwalls-in-the-us-after-several-fires/ https://electrek.co/2025/11/13/tesla-recalls-over-10000-powe... They've also recalled powerwalks. Tesla is great at being visionary, their Achilles heal has always been their weak manufacturing. Which makes sense, its the really hard part about being in the car or battery business.

maxlin 1y ago
I'd hardly call it "weak" with gigafactories setting new standards in efficiency, and Tesla being the only "recently" founded US carmaker making massive amounts of cars. All while they have more vertical integration than the competition. Cybertrucks are for pioneers. If you want something super reliable, just get a "boring" Model Y. They've improved all parts of the design continuously, the cars are indistinguishable from the early ones when it comes to finish quality
- bamboozled 1y ago
  Cybertrucks are for pioneers. If you want something super reliable, just get a "boring" Model Y. What? You think people are paying that kind of money to be beta-test a car?
  - maxlin 1y ago
    Kind of? That is what how the early adopter "section" of buyers work. It's not a secret that supercars have more arbitrary faults too, and repairs aren't as available as getting your Corolla running again. CB has a lot of experimental stuff because it's truly one of a kind of a car. Most buyers know this. Comfier and more reliable than a car made purely for showing off of course though, it's a car that truly looks like it comes from the future but that you can still daily drive by design.
- barbazoo 1y ago
  > If you want something super reliable, just get a "boring" Model Y Not according to the many comments here about Model Y.

websiteapi 1y ago

I wish they made the Cyber(mini)van instead. oh well

gbhdrew 1y ago

The least of its problems IMO, when the Cybertruck looks like it was designed to inflict maximum harm to pedestrians in a crash. The fact that such an obviously destructive design is legal on public roads should be setting off alarm bells at the USDOT and NHTSA.

vardump 1y ago
Not only Cybertruck. Also other trucks like Ford F150 etc.
- dymk 1y ago
  Trucks in general are awful for pedestrians and other motorists, but the Cybertruck is made specifically of sharp angles that will rip and tear more than a big flat vertical wall running into you.
  - babylon5 1y ago
    The front is rounded which is the place you'll hit in the vast majority of cases.
    - dymk 1y ago
      Cool, I get to have a slightly convex wall run into me before then get pulled under the tires
      - babylon5 11mo ago
        That disagrees with your statement about the cybertruck.
  - rishabhaiover 1y ago
    clear case of bias infecting judgment.
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emptybits 1y ago

I dodged a bullet. I bought into the original heavy stainless steel exoskeleton concept, which they never delivered on. So they had my deposit. Then it took me a year and a half (!!) to get my deposit back from time of request, a dozen documented follow-ups on phone, email, and in-person at the stealership. Tesla’s excuse: While they were happy to take a Canadian’s money with fully refundable deposit terms, they had not contemplated actually ever refunding a Canadian. The deposit was made by credit card. The only option offered for refund was a deposit to an American bank account. It seems like no aspect of the Cybertruck project was done well.

tejohnso 1y ago
What part of the stainless exoskeleton did they not deliver on? https://www.tesla.com/learn/superior-durability-cybertruck-hfs-hard-freaking-stainless?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://www.tesla.com/learn/superior-durability-cybertruck-h... I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if promises weren't kept or expectations not met. This is the same company that has a product called Full Self Driving that cannot fully self drive.
- SoftTalker 1y ago
  Was the concept as hideously ugly as the actual design? I still don't understand how people can drive those things in public.
  - dhosek 1y ago
    Whenever I see one in the wild, I point and laugh like Nelson from the Simpsons. Ha-ha!
    - brewdad 1y ago
      I let them know I think they are number one. Choice of digit varies on my mood.
  - dh2022 1y ago
    The drivers probably have the mental development of a middle-schooler - these trucks are FIRE with 7-grader boys!

chrisco255 1y ago

So the TLDR is an optional non-factory lightbar addon that was added to the top of about 6100 Cybertrucks used an improper adhesive to secure the bar.

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chazzalpha 1y ago

I don't know how any Tesla investor can justify paying anyone $1 trillion when the products he makes keep falling apart.

rootusrootus 1y ago
By definition the same people propping up the stock price even with a forward PE of ~200. Lots of wishful thinking.
hnburnsy 1y ago
Making cars is hard, just ask Ford... >As of this story's publication, Thursday, September 4, 2025, Ford has issued 109 recalls that have covered 7,871,344 vehicles. Of course, quite a few of those cars are repeat offenders, but you get the point. It's staggering. >Of those 109 recalls, 26 of them are re-recalls. That means they're recalls on recalls Ford has already carried out, >Read More: https://www.jalopnik.com/1958179/all-ford-vehicle-recalls-2025/ https://www.jalopnik.com/1958179/all-ford-vehicle-recalls-20...
- nova22033 1y ago
  What is the PE for Ford v/s the PE for Tesla.
hdivider 1y ago
This always reminds me of a fragment of lost tragic ancient Greek verse, quoted only in Aristotle's Art of Rhetoric: Often, when the gods bring great prosperity as a gift for men They do so not out of goodwill towards them But so that their ruin may be more conspicuous.

hnburnsy 1y ago

I wonder if this extremely dangerours recall was posted on HN... >Ford Recalls 29,500 F-150 Lightning EVs for Loss of Steering Risk

drivers99 1y ago
1. yes, just do a search: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44162184 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44162184
- hnburnsy 1y ago
  Nice, thx!
thethimble 1y ago
This doesn't fit the narrative of "Elon bad" therefore the Ford 29k vehicle steering loss recall gets two upvotes whereas the Tesla 6k vehicle dealer-installer light bar issue gets hundreds of upvotes.

billy99k 1y ago

Now check how many recalls there are with companies like Ford. Recalls are pretty much standard in the vehicle industry.

hnburnsy 1y ago
> Now check how many recalls there are with companies like Ford. Recalls are pretty much standard in the vehicle industry. As of this story's publication, Thursday, September 4, 2025, Ford has issued 109 recalls that have covered 7,871,344 vehicles. Of course, quite a few of those cars are repeat offenders, but you get the point. It's staggering. Of those 109 recalls, 26 of them are re-recalls. That means they're recalls on recalls Ford has already carried out

wnevets 1y ago

Can it self drive through a lake yet?

Havoc 1y ago
I guess if you get out to push it is technically driverless
blisterpeanuts 1y ago
It can wade through about 2.5 feet of water.
- wnevets 1y ago
  does that require the package that allows the truck to function as a boat?

specialist 1y ago

It's a beta release product. Of course it has problems. I don't think any of Cybertruck's growing pains are remarkable. IIRC, Tesla skipped the industry's normal typical period of real world testing for new platforms. That should have scared off most buyers. -- Cybertruck should have been rolled out like the Roadster. Exclusive, prestige, wrap-around customer service. The superfans would happily pay to participate. There's always a (modest) market for niche vehicles, like the Cybertruck. eg Subaru Brat, VW The Thing (name?). -- Cybertruck has so much innovation, cool tech. 48V, drive-by-wire, the modular internet bus thing, 4 wheel steering, even bigger castings, etc. Tesla was (initially) right to de-risk those things by using them in a (much) lower volume vehicle. And field test everything ahead of the high volume Model 2 / Robotaxi. -- The big, IMHO, mistake was juicing the stock price by hyping Cybertruck as Tesla's next home run.

aaroninsf 1y ago

oNe TrIlLiOn DoLlArS

montroser 1y ago

> "Tesla Service will inspect the light bar and install an additional mechanical attachment or replace the light bar using tape to adhere the light bar to the windshield as well as an additional mechanical attachment as necessary, free of charge." Tape? The fix is to add some tape? At least it's free...

Havoc 1y ago
To be fair that is on brand
hnburnsy 1y ago
Go watch Mat Alexander rebuild super cars and you will see things like parts attached with glue and fenders shimmed with plastic inserts and welds that look like a drunk did them.

snovymgodym 1y ago

I do not like the Cybertruck, the company that makes it, nor the man who owns said company. That being said, I still appreciate seeing them out on the road as an example of what's effectively a concept car that made it to production. It also looks cool and stands apart aesthetically from pretty much everything else on the market, even if the giant 1-piece wiper and black plastic wheel well trim pieces mar the clean lines of the original design. I'm not sufficiently familiar with the data to say whether or not Cybertrucks or Teslas have significantly more design problems or QC issues than other manufacturers, or if news outlets just latch onto the stories more because Musk's public behavior makes him such a lightning rod for controversy. Regardless, I think the Cybertruck will go down in history as an iconic car and a symbol of the 2020s, even if it was an objectively bad product (think DeLorean).

sjsdaiuasgdia 1y ago
> It also looks cool No. No, it does not.
platevoltage 1y ago
The only reason any non-car enthusiasts remember the DeLorean is because it was cast in a popular movie franchise.
- philistine 1y ago
  Once Bob Gale is dead and we get our inevitable Back to The Future remake: Doc, you made a time machine ... out of a Cybertruck?

nova22033 1y ago

https://insideevs.com/news/667723/musk-estimates-tesla-could-sell-250000-500000-cybertrucks-yearly/ https://insideevs.com/news/667723/musk-estimates-tesla-could... Musk Estimates Tesla Could Sell 250,000-500,000 Cybertrucks Yearly https://insideevs.com/news/766162/tesla-cybertruck-sales-q2-h1-2025/ https://insideevs.com/news/766162/tesla-cybertruck-sales-q2-... Tesla Cybertruck Sales Fall Dramatically To Their Lowest Level In A Year

riffraff 1y ago
Not to be deterred, the latest package has an objective of ten million robo taxis in ten years.

fred_is_fred 1y ago

This is real-time aerodynamics and weight reduction. Elon is 10 steps ahead of you plebes.

Whatarethese 1y ago

It's actually not a bad truck if you bought one in the past half year or so. They worked out a majority of the kinks. FSD works really darn good as well.

thethimble 1y ago
Glad you like it! About to order one now as a baby car!

indoordin0saur 1y ago

Been seeing tons of Cybertrucks on the road. I have to admit that they seem to have become a lot more popular than I expected.

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lilyisgay 1y ago

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