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Amazon confirms 14,000 job losses in corporate division
- axus 1y agoWasn't technology supposed to enable workers to do more, instead of doing the same with less?
- wongarsu 1y agoI'm sure for some roles this works out. Software development has been doing it for decades: developers get better tools that make them more productive, this lowers costs, and at the lower price point there is a lot more demand for more and better software. Classic induced demand. But how much elastic demand is there for accounting or logistics?
- sheepscreek 1y agoI think we’re reaching the limits of what “more” can achieve esp. at Amazon’s scale. At some point, we will run out of people to sell things to. Then you look for low hanging “fruits” like this (cutting costs) instead of innovating and creating newer things (selling more). Also with less need for hiring and fewer people to manage - there’s an opportunity for companies to make their HR leaner. > Reuters said the job cuts would affect Amazon's HR and devices teams.
- danaris 1y ago> I think we’re reaching the limits of what “more” can achieve esp. at Amazon’s scale. At some point, we will run out of people to sell things to. See, that's the problem with tying all these amazing advances in automation and labor-saving to a system beholden to capital: it only considers what can make it more profit, not what can make the world better. I guarantee you there are many, many more things we can do with "more", at any scale, if you take the profit motive out of the equation (or even just put it second or third on the list).
- Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe 1y agoNever forget that profit in eonomy is indistinguishable from friction loss in a physics.
- sysashi 1y agoApparently they let go some (or all?) of the AGS (amazon game studios) and putting New World (mmorpg game) on maintenance mode. This game currently has around 30-40k concurrent players on steam and probably as much or more on consoles. I feel bad for people got fired and gamers (myself included). I really like that game
- allisonmack532 1y ago[dead]
- code4life 1y agoIt really feels like we are in the middle of a recession.
- johnebgd 1y agoWe are…
- reactordev 1y agoWorse, we’ve been in one but have been pretending we aren’t. Stock goes up.
- formerly_proven 1y agoLine goes up or it gets the stonks again
- bell-cot 1y agoThe biggest "pretend" is where spokesmen, spin doctors, and sycophants for the plutocrat class have somehow convinced the 99% that stocks going up makes more jobs for the little people.
- nemomarx 1y agoare stocks even going up outside of tech stocks that can benefit from AI investment? everything else seems stagnant
- array_key_first 1y agoNo. And even in tech, its highly concentrated in AI. The S&P 500 is almost 10% Nvidia. Just Nvidia. Y'all that's scary.
- reactordev 1y agoIt’s broken. They did this and think it’s ok, it’s not. It’s most definitely not.
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- phoe-krk 1y agoThese aren't "job losses", these are "firings". They aren't unfortunate accidents of external origin that happened to them, they are conscious internal decisions to let people go.
- maxehmookau 1y ago100%. Amazon hired 14,000 people, and now it's firing 14,000 people it no longer wants on its payroll. Plain and simple.
- actionfromafar 1y agoNah, it gained 14,000 people, they kinda sneak in to the buildings and start doing work if you aren't serious about your perimeter security.
- heresie-dabord 1y agoFrom the CNN report [1]: --- Al won’t just effect change at Amazon, Jassy said. AI "will change how we all work and live," including "billions" of AI agents “across every company and in every imaginable field." However, much of this remains speculative. "Many of these agents have yet to be built, but make no mistake, they’re coming, and coming fast," Jassy said. --- [1] _ https://lite.cnn.com/2025/10/28/business/amazon-layoffs https://lite.cnn.com/2025/10/28/business/amazon-layoffs
- nothrowaways 1y agoReplace Jassy with AI
- iLoveOncall 1y agoGPT-1 or GPT-2, which would match his reasoning abilities, are unfortunately deprecated, so we can't.
- wiseowise 1y agoThey will. But by the time it happens, Jassy already made millions in cash + much more in stocks and will retire comfortably while others will slave away for new AI overlords.
- nemo44x 1y agoIs this their annual stack and cut?
- evertedsphere 1y agoOur thoughts and prayers are with everyone affected by this unfortunate corporate-involved job loss incident at this time.
- VerminOctopus1 1y agoReports suggest there was an interaction that occurred between HR and some 13,000 staff, ultimately resulting in job losses. The staff were noted to be “behaving suspiciously “. Investigations are underway.
- forgotTheLast 1y agoRumours say a resignation letter was recovered from a bush nearby. We have Starbuck's ex-VP of HR with us in the studio tonight to help us make sense of the situation, and talk to us about their new book "Layoffs for Dummies".
- raziel2p 1y ago> The company has more than 1.5 million employees across its warehouses and offices worldwide. > This includes around 350,000 corporate workers, which include those in executive, managerial and sales roles, according to figures that Amazon submitted to the US government last year. So roughly 4% of jobs in Amazon's corporate division disappeared. Not to downplay that the world/economy is in a bad state, but I don't think this is very catastrophic.
- nemomarx 1y agoNot catastrophic, but probably a sign that jobs are shrinking instead of growing and so good market information if you were thinking about getting promoted or moving around?
- nxm 1y agoRather, a correction for over hiring during periods of low-interest rates and excessive money printed which promoted & rewarded hiring just to be compretitive
- WOTERMEON 1y agoStill. Less jobs on the market
- magicalist 1y ago> correction for over hiring during periods of low-interest rates It's been three years since that though, and five years since covid. That's why we say "AI" now. Just make sure you don't say "executive incompetence".
- whamlastxmas 1y agoI don't think it's incompetence, I think it's planned, merciless strategy. It costs nearly nothing to fire a ton of people, so why not hire a bunch with free money and dump them as soon as the free money disappears
- marcusb 1y agoOnce a company moves on to recurring, large-scale layoffs justified by vague corporate Mumbo-Jumbo, I think it is safe to assume it is a "day 2" company.
- johnnyanmac 1y agoIs there any non-day 2 company in this day and age? Seems like everyone's laying off en masse. Even the job reports can't hide it. If you're not working in nursing the flux of retired Baby boomers you're either already rich or on unsteady ground.
- cheschire 1y agoI was not aware of this term before. For others: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/jeff-bezos-day-1-versus-2-companies-which-you-simon-torrance https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/jeff-bezos-day-1-versus-2-com...
- 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 1y agoNon-LinkedIn version: https://ourdinnertable.wordpress.com/2025/05/06/jeff-bezos-day-1-and-day-2/ https://ourdinnertable.wordpress.com/2025/05/06/jeff-bezos-d... > “Day 2 is stasis. Followed by irrelevance. Followed by death. And that’s why it’s always Day 1.” Sharks don't look back, cause they don't have necks. Necks are for sheep
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- spoiler 1y agoIs this one of those things that are meant to sound deep and profound by inventing terminology, but isn't? That's such a like day 2 person thing to do. (Actually don't know if I used day 2 correctly, feels a bit like trying to use skibidi ohio in a sentence)
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- random9749832 1y agoEconomy in bad shape + AI bubble + tons of fake jobs = prepare for this to be much more common in the next coming years.
- nxm 1y agoNatural correction for excessive money printed and ultra-low interest rates in the previous years
- rvz 1y agoCorrect. As soon as the AI bubble pops and the true definition of AGI has been achieved i.e (30% increase in global unemployment by 2035) then it will mean the gradual decrease in many BS tech salaries. We will certainly get a huge financial crash along the way.
- johnnyanmac 1y agoIncorrect. Hiring is not down despite mass layoffs in NA. Jobs aren't going way, they are shifting. It is correct that we are due for a big crash. Prepare yourselves while you can. >the true definition of AGI has been achieved i.e (30% increase in global unemployment by 2035) I'll paraphrase something I heard from Twitter: "companies who really feel they are on the cusp of an AGI breakthrough to no then proceed to announce something like SORA". I don't think AGI is in the 10 year plan here. as for 30% unenployment? I don't think we're getting to that point without other major conflicts first. I'm sure by 10% there will be all sorts of coups (as we are slowly seeing now). at 20% there will be full blown wars.
- toinewx 1y agothere is little mourning for people who didn't get hired at all in the first place.
- stoneman24 1y agoFrom the article, Amazon has 1.5 million employees across offices and warehouses. With about 350,000 corporate employees in executive, managerial and sales. So that’s about 4% of the non-warehouse staff. What’s their normal staff turnover rate per year? I wonder if it’s another staff reduction (cos we over hired and want to remove people who didn’t impress) under the cover of improving business productivity using AI Hat tip to raziel2p who was going down the same in thier comment
- mynegation 1y agoThis is a lot. If you are in a company large enough, you surely know at least 20 people and one of them is gone. The earlier floated figure was even larger: 30K
- stoneman24 1y agoI suppose it’s what you are used to. A company that I worked with had under 100 staff, very profitable but had a staff turnover of about 10% per year. People joined, some stayed, some left and it was fine. Perhaps as the departures were staff decisions not some faceless corporate executive, dropping X% cos that’s what he thinks would please the markets or his boss. Or the department is making profits but as much as his MBA says that’s sufficient. That’s the really depressing and infuriating aspect.
- johnnyanmac 1y agoIf it's not part time work, 10% yearly turnover is awful for anything that isn't a tiny startup. >People joined, some stayed, some left and it was fine. For who? It's always a shame how we underplay the human element in these stories.
- itopaloglu83 1y agoLet them prove that this is not a big deal, but also take note that this is going to continue. It sounds like the first step in desensitizing folks about firings and forcing the remaining people to work in fear. That’s what they want, they said it themselves, they want people to work in fear.
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- madeofpalk 1y ago> This includes around 350,000 corporate workers, which include those in executive, managerial and sales roles, according to figures, external that Amazon submitted to the US government last year. I’m fairly ignorant to these things, but why does Amazon need 350k corporate employees? People losing jobs always sucks, but I can’t help but think that a company of this size inevitably has bloat that they do not need. At this point it really does feel like a corporate welfare program.
- bamboozled 1y agoAs competition catches up, Amazon is feeling like a corporate welfare program too.
- rs186 1y agoHave you counted how many links there are on Amazon.com and how many services there are on AWS? Don't forget MGM etc. Just some back-of-the-envelope maths will tell you how many employees are needed. I would agree that Amazon in general and AWS should never be this big. But that does not equal "bloated".
- redwood 1y agoThis is a reflection of 1) compensation has come down since the ZIRP era at least in some roles and 2) it's a hirer's market. This means companies see an opportunity to bring compensation down. I wish employees would instead have an opportunity to sign up for lower salary. For whatever reason you just don't see that happening anywhere
- QuiEgo 1y agoSharing the risk (and rewards) with the company is why we take 50% or more of our comp as RSUs instead of being paid in straight cash. This should already be factored in. If the company does bad, we should already be taking an (effective) pay cut. Amazon's backloaded vesting is terrible (for both Amazon and Amazonians) for this exact reason.
- klysm 1y agoSpreadsheet doesn’t like that option because number go down more with this option
- sbarre 1y agoI've taken pay cuts twice in my career, but both times it was at unfunded startups and it was more of a "we'll get you back for this later" (one did, one did not). I worry that normalizing the idea that a company can make you an offer (that you can't refuse) of lower pay, with the alternative being that you get fired, would set some really bad precedents. Companies would start to min/max this process and would use it as a way to meet targets (perhaps unrealistic ones) at the expense of take-home pay for employees, even in situations where they don't actually need to make cuts.
- stego-tech 1y agoThis. Companies will always min/max a system so they retain as much money as possible for as few hands as they can manage, always funneled upwards to executives and shareholders. Rather than trying to “negotiate” with these entities, regulations should be wielded to stop min-maxing beyond a certain point or in bad faith, and firing people while turning a profit is 100% bad faith that should be regulated or barred.
- cagenut 1y agoeverybody read 'bullshit jobs' and basically agreed at first that just meant many of us adopted a middle-aged-coasting career strategy after covid and/or having kids but now management is agreeing
- johnnyanmac 1y agoMeanwhile new grads can't even start their careers to begin with and are left scambling to even take a step into adulthood. They missed the boar. kids aren't even on the horizon. What does that say?
- doener 1y agoDupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45731199 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45731199
- imglorp 1y agoMaybe, but this one has all the comments.
- tietjens 1y agoAny word on what percentage hit AWS?
- hippo22 1y agoI’ve heard multiple numbers for this layoff from unofficial sources. Does anyone think Amazon was trying to identify a leak by letting internal parties know about the layoffs with slightly different details?
- mv4 1y agoare you talking about the difference is size (15,000 vs 30,000) and affected orgs?
- sangel 1y agoMy totally uneducated guess is that they leak exaggerated numbers on purpose to make the real numbers look less bad in comparison. The idea being that a few days before the official news everyone is talking about a potential 30 or 40K people layoff. Then, when the official news come out and state that they are laying off 14K people, it sounds less dramatic (in relative terms). This makes people (who are not affected by this) to feel like the news were overblown and are not as significant.
- _fizz_buzz_ 1y agoOr it could have been internal politics. Amazon top management set the goal to cut 30k and after internal discussions with lower management they come up with 14k positions that can actually be cut.
- gdulli 1y agoLeaks are intentional. There's a reason they always happen and always in the same way.
- lapcat 1y agohttps://www.aboutamazon.com/news/company-news/amazon-workforce-reduction https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/company-news/amazon-workfor... By the way, could Amazon not even bother to proofread a mass layoff announcement? "We’re convicted that we need to be organized more leanly" At least we know this was written by a human, because an LLM probably wouldn't make that mistake. Maybe they fired the proofreaders already.
- deaux 1y ago> because an LLM probably wouldn't make that mistake To be fair, an Amazon model might, so if they're using those.. /s
- AznHisoka 1y agoIs this targeting mostly individual contributors? Or are Directors/VPs also getting cut just as equally?
- JKCalhoun 1y agoThat's a good one.
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- elric 1y agoYou would think that a company that's making some 50 billion in profits every year would be able to find something useful to do for those 14k people.
- Esophagus4 1y agoThey definitely seem to have gone from “invest in growing the business at all costs” to “ruthless efficiency and cost cuts”
- yahoozoo 1y agoJust imagine the productivity they could achieve if they kept those 14,000 and had them use AI, too! Productivity overload. Levels we have never seen.
- tonyhart7 1y agodoes we live in era that side hustles is an necessity????
- jalapenos 1y agoAlmost no side hustles make any money, most are simply a complete waste of time and energy. Hence no, everyone still needs jobs.
- johnnyanmac 1y agoWould you call ride sharing a hustle? That seems to be the modern version of "side hustle". More Ubers and Doordashers, more people trying to make it big as influencers, and probably more cam models as well. Those are the modern "jobs" as jobs no longer wish to employ workers and you expect to bounce in and out in months, not years. In-between the AI interviews, your employer is an app and your clients are an audience to please. Technology truly made for a better world.
- tonyhart7 1y agoseems like you talking from your experiences
- grugagag 1y agoAWS outages will become the norm?
- dehrmann 1y agoI'm sure this was in the works long before last week's outage, but it's certainly a bad look. The industry broadly knows how Amazon works; I'm sure a few AWS customers are looking and wondering if it's finally biting them, right as they double down on the strategy.
- geff82 1y agoYeah, finally 1-2 billion profit more on top of the 68 billion they already generate.
- jtbayly 1y agoTrue, but I expect such nonsense from the company. There is absolutely no excuse for BBC to use this wording! Why would they?
- dangus 1y agoQ3 results [PDF]: https://s2.q4cdn.com/299287126/files/doc_financials/2025/q2/AMZN-Q2-2025-Earnings-Release.pdf https://s2.q4cdn.com/299287126/files/doc_financials/2025/q2/... Numbers are all in the black and up year over year and compared to previous quarter. Double digit revenue growth in both retail and AWS. Often I wonder whether corporate leaders took any kind of logic class in college or if they just have a fetish for harming people for no reason. Either that or whatever business school they went to believes that poor customer service and bad products increase revenue.
- gniv 1y agoThat's Q2. Q3 will be announced day after tomorrow. This announcement might mean they are not doing that well (compared to expectations).
- dangus 1y agoTypo, sorry. I’d bet $5 that Q3 is profitable with similar growth.
- rhubarbtree 1y agoWouldn’t it make sense to announce at the same time or afterwards, so that employees can see the problem?
- baggachipz 1y agoI worked at AOL back when they did quarterly "staff reductions". They would go and hire lots of them right back; it was an accounting trick. Never mind the fact that families were affected and employees were constantly stressed near the end of every quarter. Those things don't matter, quarterly numbers do when growth has stalled.
- ajsnigrutin 1y agoThis is a great tactic, where competent, good workers find a more stable job, and the ones unable to get a better job are then rehired. On one hand, you can bully them more, and they'll stay, on the other hand, they're so bad at their job, no one else wants them either.
- akshayrajp 1y agoDoesn't sound very labour-law friendly
- johnnyanmac 1y agoPeople call each other incompetent as the entire country is outsourcing them and then wonder why there's no worker solidarity.
- baggachipz 1y ago'murica
- baggachipz 1y agoI believe they call this "contracting". Which is not what they purported to do. Having to go through all the bullshit about the hiring process, benefits, taxes, and all that over and over is an absurd inefficiency. It also doesn't help when people are just trying to feed and care for their families. Because of that experience (and lots of other anecdotal evidence), I see no reason for anybody to ever work at amazon unless they are ok with being a contractor.
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- rvz 1y agoAGI has been achieved internally.
- sweynk 1y agoAws goes down. And then layoffs follow. Feels like Headlines management.
- torginus 1y agoMy personal question is aren't managers in AWS technical people? Can't you offer them IC positions?
- Esophagus4 1y agoGoogle tried this and gave up, as it didn’t work out[1]. For now, there’s a lot of focus on automating software dev jobs, but I think companies are just starting to realize automation will thin the management layers as well. [1] https://bpb-us-e1.wpmucdn.com/sites.psu.edu/dist/3/50375/files/2023/02/How-Google-Sold-Its-Engineers-on-Management.pdf https://bpb-us-e1.wpmucdn.com/sites.psu.edu/dist/3/50375/fil...
- torginus 1y agoYuck, what even is that website? Someone pays for this?
- Esophagus4 1y agoHa - sorry about that. Edited my comment to reference the original HBR paper rather than the Inc magazine silliness.
- BirAdam 1y agoI think it might actually be easier to automate middle management than it would be technical folks. It's not exactly difficult to shove an AI agent into a meeting, have it record everything, and ask everyone for updates. Likewise, it isn't hard to have an AI agent just read through tickets and prompt people for updates. Dystopian? Yeah. Hard? No. Also, the AI would be better than most middle managers I've encountered. The sad thing is, I've also had a few excellent middle managers who helped me grow as a professional.
- Esophagus4 1y agoI wouldn’t be surprised to see this at all. And in a really dystopian world, the AI could review everyone’s PRs and documentation and rank engineers based on their contributions. It could even make compensation decisions based on that. Much of the performance management can be automated (with human in the loop). Then you could have fewer managers managing more people (and get rid of a bunch of layers of management overhead). They could focus on the higher value parts of management like coordinating between teams, making tough execution decisions, resolving technical blockers / ambiguity, etc
- JCM9 1y agoTo be clear, it’s worse. Read the press release carefully: 1. 14k was the net change in “corporate headcount” which is PR puffery speak saying they’re firing a lot more but when you net out folks let go slotting into open roles elsewhere the net change today would be a 14k reduction 2. It also says that “looking ahead” “we expect to… find additional places we can remove layers, increase ownership, and realize efficiency gains.” That’s PR puffery speak for “there will be more layoffs coming soon.” Amazon has really struggled under Andy Jassy’s tenure as CEO. Innovation has slowed, and there were huge misses on areas like AI. What’s happening today also isn’t the result of “pandemic overhiring” or “AI efficiencies” but the cleanup of big messes that developed on the watch of present leadership. Andy Jassy preaches about company culture and efficiency but the culture went to crap and the company became bloated on his watch so… Amazon likely needs new leadership to get it past the Andy Jassy chapter and move to a new phase of innovation and growth. It basically needs to replace its present Balmer with a Satya.
- johnnyanmac 1y ago>What’s happening today also isn’t the result of “pandemic overhiring” or “AI efficiencies” but the cleanup of big messes that developed on the watch of present leadership. It's the result of economic headwinds and companies switching to maintenance mode. Except whever they can sell "AI" in their initiative. And of course, add in a healthy dose of outsourcing under the hood.
- blenderob 1y ago> there were huge misses on areas like AI Honest question. What could they have possibly gained from AI? What did they miss out on by not getting into AI?
- potro 1y agoShort term - higher stock evaluation. Long term - depends on what value AI bubble will be able to deliver. But it's not like Amazon is sitting out of this game, they do invest into their AI (Nova models), with little return to show for it.
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- jerojero 1y agoSo we'll probably start seeing other companies do their firing cycles again. I guess this has just become kind of a feature of our times.
- nunez 1y ago> At the end of July, Amazon reported second quarter results which beat Wall Street expectations on several counts, including a 13% year over year increase in sales to $167.7bn (£125bn). Greed is good?
- johnnyanmac 1y agoIt's good. Until it isn't. And then everything collapses all at once.
- josefritzishere 1y agoThe unemployment rate in the US is climbing. If you look at a 5-year curve, it looks like nothing. But if you look at a 3-year window it's devastating. Seeing the highs of 2003 and 2009 it seems likely that it will continue to climb. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/UNRATE https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/UNRATE
- BirAdam 1y agoIf you'd like to be really upset, check the labor participation rate. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART
- johnnyanmac 1y agoNew grads have an absurd unemployment rate, so I'm sadly not surprised. And this is still hiding the true economic disparity since we can't see the quality of the jobs. I'm "employed" but am doing part time work with no benefits. It's dreadful but I still contribute to the "low unemployment". As does others who defer to Uber or Doordash for quick cash. We need a complete overhaul of job numbers down the line.
- RiverStone 1y agoThe decrease is likely just the result of the demographic shift caused by an aging population, as the notes say. Unrelated to the overall health of the economy.
- dehrmann 1y agoThere's a whole lot that number doesn't capture, but broadly, U-3 is roughly flat and in the traditionally healthy range.
- javier_e06 1y agoOh, and by the way, you're fired. Fired? W-W-What do you mean, fired? Um, how else can I say it? You're being let go, your department's being downsized, you're part of an outplacement, we're going in a different direction, we're not picking up your option... Take your pick. I got more. "The Emperor's new groove"
- Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe 1y agoSource: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNZSgzjqQc4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNZSgzjqQc4
- koolba 1y agoIs there any meaningful way to get breakdowns by department, location, or race?
- TallGuyShort 1y agoFrom: https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/company-news/amazon-workforce-reduction https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/company-news/amazon-workfor... > we want to operate like the world’s largest startup This is a phrase I hear repeated by leadership a lot, and it's usually code for "why doesn't everyone else just make the business grow faster?" It is almost always, as in this case, followed by statements that suggest they don't understand what is actually different about the way a start up functions and why they stopped operating that way at some point in the first place.
- mwt 1y agoMuch like the classic "our department in [big company] works a lot like a startup"
- LFchv 1y agoSounds like some marketer got tasked into trying to convince a group of people that the company is looking at aggressive growth and unrealized markets for as long as they are willing to entertain that delusion.
- xyst 1y agoWhat’s the severance package at Amazon like? Standard 3 mo w/ insurance during that period? Do they accelerate vesting schedule? Any AMZN drones care to chime in?
- raw_anon_1111 1y ago1 month for each year and partial year worked. They don’t accelerate vesting schedule. Former AWS drone. Fortunately I never had to work in an office.
- malfist 1y agoThink bare minimum.
- ChrisArchitect 1y agoSource: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45730798 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45730798
- anon-3988 1y agoI don't understand this thread. Is Amazon supposed to keep expanding ever and ever again? If those people are needed, then Amazon will fall (good riddance), if they are not needed then that's just good business. I don't see any issues as long as everyone plays a fair game.
- johnnyanmac 1y ago>as long as everyone plays a fair game. Well that's the issue. If you've been paying attention to what's really going on you know that this isn't a game at all but merely a hostile coup from the plutocracy. If you really think AI is automating all these jobs then you've fallen for the spin.
- t-writescode 1y agoOnce a company reaches a certain size, it can limp along, hidden to everyone, for years - decades - before they go away. “Amazon will fail”, maybe, in 50 years, from decisions made now.
- johnnyanmac 1y agoYeah, IBM and Oracle still limped along long after they ceased being the thinktanks of innovation. Amazon limping will drag Gen Z and their retirement down with them. This isn't some level playing field.
- mattas 1y agoIt’s worth noting that they are offering folks the opportunity to find a new role internally. It’s layoffs with a touch of reallocation of people to more important projects.
- johnnyanmac 1y agoAnd if it's anything like the external labor market, 98% of them won't actually get any answer back because there's no hiring at Amazon right now. At least, not in the US.
- n8m8 1y agoCan confirm — itsa me
- AznHisoka 1y agoOffshoring definitely playing a part too according to the data: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45737134 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45737134