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Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features
- svl7 1y agoLink to repo as the article fails to even mention it: https://github.com/builtbybel/Flyby11 https://github.com/builtbybel/Flyby11
- fireflymetavrse 1y agoAllowing this on Github means that Microsoft silently approve it?
- xeonmc 1y agomas is on github too
- userbinator 1y agoMicrosoft would probably rather you pirate Windows (and ideally keep sending them telemetry and other data) than use Linux: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38295819 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38295819
- mmis1000 1y agoIt will probably actually cause them less problem then a system that never update though. Remember Wannacry? Those pirated system with windows update completely disabled?
- ChrisNorstrom 1y agoI'm honestly still shocked there isn't some kind of lawsuit or federal investigation on how Microsoft is able to get away with dropping support for CPUs that are only a few years old. Thus forcing unknown millions of people worldwide to upgrade an ENTIRE CPU and Motherboard just for the next version of Windows. What are we supposed to do with all that e-waste?! People who spent thousands on a 32 core threadripper from 5 years ago are now suppose to just... throw it away and buy another 32 core threadripper?! None of the 7 computers in our house have processors that are supported. Just the AMD Threadripper 2000 series and earlier that launched in 2018 (just 7 years ago) are not supported. That's a massive amount of CPUs about to hit ebay probably at huge discounts. I'm hoping the Linux community takes advantage of this moment and focuses heavily on converting Windows users to Linux + Bottles.
- rolph 1y agoI'm honestly still shocked how much of this malarchy users will just lay down for. the way MS gets away with it is by making people think they have no other choice.
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- sixtyj 1y agoThis. The worst death is from fright. So let’s keep calm. Because Win 10 will work after October 2025.
- nickjj 1y agoI wonder if MS will extend the deadline, especially since there's unofficial tools bypassing their restrictions. I remember last year when they announced removing a major MS Teams connector around webhook integrations. In July 2024 they said in August 2024 this feature would be disabled for new apps and then in October 2024 all integrations would stop working. This would effectively break a ton of 3rd party integrations. Think how crazy that is considering their top market is enterprise companies being sold on Teams through O365 licenses. For context, this would be the equivalent of Slack saying they are going to remove all OAuth / webhook integrations and replace it with something else when "something else" wasn't even properly documented with practically no notice. A few weeks after that announcement MS decided to extend that deadline to December 2025. I don't know the current state of things since I no longer work at the place using Teams.
- dangus 1y agoMS will absolutely extend the deadline, or otherwise make it meaningless. The install base of windows 10 is too high. My prediction is that instead of extending support forever like XP and 7, Windows 10 will be “unsupported” but it’ll still get security patches for a long time. The “unsupported” nature of the OS will only matter to corporate auditors. Consumers will be using Windows 10 for years longer.
- everyone 1y agoIm assuming MS will always have one secret good version of windows for enterprise? Eg. I have Win 10 LTSC 2021 which runs out in 2032.. I assume when that runs out there will be some replacement good version of windows? I also installed Linux Mint which I am trying to do as much as possible on. Its really fantastic, its crazy how it "just works".. The most intuitive and user friendly OS ive ever used.. I just do a lot of weird game and game-dev stuff that I still need Windows for.. If I didnt do that stuff I would 100% be on Mint.. And that is changing with Steam, Wine, Bottles, Proton, Lutris, the amount of stuff u cant do keeps shrinking and it keeps getting easier and easier. Most people on earth should be using Linux, it would be objectively better and easier to do everything they want to do on their computer compared to all the other popular OSes.
- magic_hamster 1y agoMint is in a good place right now. I enjoy it immensely on most of my daily devices. Still stuck with MacOS for work which I lament.
- guilamu 1y agoThe new 'good' (more like less worst) version of Windows is Windows 11 iot ltsc. It's as clean as windows 11 gets (https://massgrave.dev/windows_ltsc_links#differences-between-iot-and-non-iot-windows-enterprise-ltsc https://massgrave.dev/windows_ltsc_links#differences-between...). Still, I've been using computers for 30 years and I'm starting to feel the itch to look for Linux alternatives and I'm pretty old. Change does do not comes easily to old people. This is bad for ms.
- mamonoleechi 1y agoIf you want to switch to linux but not feeling overwhelmed at first, you can stay on windows and work with something like Virtualbox running your linux distribution of choice alongside. You keep on testing/experimenting daily, slowly getting the hang of it one software at a time. And once you found how to do everything you have to on linux, you're just ready to switch.
- CommanderData 1y ago"Works for now" There's been many such tools for other anti-features, they eventually stop working.
- Zopieux 1y agoStill better than nothing. It's no secret maintainers need to play catch-up with Microsoft. This is the entire value-add of all those cool pro-consumer/user tools which use private & undocumented APIs, like yt-dlp.
- picafrost 1y agoThere is something so fundamentally gross about Microsoft's vision of what role an operating system should serve. That there is an aftermarket of software that attempts to disable (but cannot remove!) the invasive dark patterns is alarming enough, but Microsoft may simply just... undo that, with the next unstoppable update. Then again, this is the company that answered complaints about Windows being bad for development by embedding an OS that is good for development and calling that an innovation rather than an acknowledgement that Windows is bad.
- wtallis 1y ago> answered complaints about Windows being bad for development by embedding an OS that is good for development and calling that an innovation Well, they actually did it twice in recent history: WSL 1 was relatively innovative, integrating Linux application compatibility into the Windows operating system itself. But that turned out to still be bad for development because it meant Linux software was now subjected to the performance problems of the Windows IO stack. So they responded with WSL 2, an ordinary Linux VM. And separately they also introduced the "Dev Drive" feature to let you create a filesystem that bypassed the worst parts of the Windows IO stack.
- AndrewDavis 1y ago> WSL 1 was relatively innovative, integrating Linux application compatibility into the Windows operating system itself Both FreeBSD and Illumos were running Linux applications (at various levels of compatibility) many years prior to wsl v1. Joyent even went as far as re-implementing the Docker api to allow running OCI images natively in LX zones. Hence, it wasn't even that novel of an idea.
- wizzwizz4 1y agoAchieving it on Windows was fairly novel, though: we hadn't had something like that since the XP days.
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- vivzkestrel 1y agoMicrosoft should create a new windows option in addition to Home, Professional and Pro and call this one "Windows OPTIMAL" They can price this 3x if they want but it has 0 bloatware, 0 telemetry or atleast everything can be disabled at the time of installation. It is literally windows designed from the ground up for maximum performance, runs as smooth as windows 7 or xp used to back in the good old days
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- PeterStuer 1y agoThey wont as it would be admitting their 'normal' offering is anti-consumer.
- microtonal 1y agoAlso, this is also the case with ad-disabling subscriptions, the people who have the disposable income to buy non-ad versions are the most interesting to a lot of advertisers.
- dvfjsdhgfv 1y agoWhile I agree, when was the last time you bought something because you saw it advertised in Windows?
- microtonal 1y agoNever. I haven't used Windows since... 3.11 :p.
- immibis 1y agoMost people think ads don't make them buy things, but they still do. It's just not as direct as seeing the ad so you click on the ad and buy the thing. (Sometimes it's that direct and advertisers love it, but not usually) You're thirsty. Do you want a Coke or an Africola? Coke obviously - what the heck is Africola? Why do you want a Coke? Because you saw the Coke logo everywhere since birth.
- userbinator 1y agoIt's good to see that there still are some modders left in the community; there are others creating unofficial "distros" of Windows with most of the crap stripped out, and often useful additions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34654649 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34654649 From my experience, Windows has always been somewhat modular (see 98lite for an early example), so it's not too difficult to pick and choose what pieces you want, but the main worry is that one of these hostile features is a dependency of a core component. but do keep in mind that there is a risk associated with customizing your Windows installation in unintended ways Of course there is this obligatory FUD from the Microsoft-fansite. In contrast to the risk associated with letting Microsoft absorb all your data and take control of your computer?
- 999900000999 1y agoUbuntu. Fedora. Arch. Open Suse . Pick one, stop trying to make Windows look like a decent os. My local Windows install just gave up. I'm very close to trying Windows 11 in a VM on top of Fedora or whatever, can't really do that on my 16gb ram value laptop though. If Maschine offered official Linux support, that's what I make music with, I'd be 100% Windows free.
- cookiengineer 1y agoPick KDE if you want the same integrated experience. The Desktop on Linux has come pretty far already and most of the complaints are from people that made the wrong choice for their UX. Sometimes setting up a WINE environment is worth it, but I'd argue that as long ss you still need to use the CLI to create environments, it's not there yet. Proton has been amazing for better support. Also, don't pick Arch when you come from Windows, it's not the right choice for you. Pick a beginner friendly distro, everyone has to start somewhere. Debian, LinuxMint, or Ubuntu are incredibly easy to learn.
- 999900000999 1y agoDebian based distros lag in hardware support. KDE is heavy, but that's the magic of Linux. It's to you to figure out your perfect combination. I'd argue that if you don't care how computers work, buy a Mac. If you actually enjoy the process Linux is great.
- devilbunny 1y agoThe Mac is so much simpler. I just want a big screen iMac again. 27” with Apple silicon and no more of this inability to be used as a big dumb monitor when it’s ancient and slow.
- MarcusE1W 1y agoI think for users who don't want to learn about their computer and just use it a (new or used) Mac is the best option if you want cover many use cases. Linux on Desktop is especially great for used Laptops. In that case the Linux community had a bit of time to adjust to the hardware. Laptop also offer a well defined hardware environment where you know exactly what's inside. Once you additional devices the range of hardware that needs to be supported is so much wider and so is the risk that something does not work. However, especially for more casual users to just use your Laptop and not connect anything ever is in my opinion a quite common use case. There you can optimise to support some Laptops really well. And that is where Linux can shine.
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- wao0uuno 1y agoI achieved the same and more by installing Linux. Highly recommended.
- KyleBerezin 1y ago"Bypass windows telemetry with this 1 cool trick!"
- resonious 1y agoI recently decided to try running Windows as a daily driver. WSL is pretty good but just feels wrong. It has a slow cold start and sometimes just completely crashes or freezes for a few seconds. Basic operations in general (outside WSL) often take several seconds. The Copilot button feels forced but I decided whatever I'll try it - the copilot window takes almost 10 seconds to start up on first press. What is going on? It's just a chat interface.. Then there's that super old problem where the settings app opens in a tiny window and cannot be resized. What's interesting is the feedback app once asked me about how long things take and if I'm satisfied. So it seems they're kind of aware. But the problem is probably too deep to dig out of.
- ndsipa_pomu 1y ago> Then there's that super old problem where the settings app opens in a tiny window and cannot be resized. It still amazes (and infuriates) me when I try to use Windows for something and see a non-resizeable window pop up. Often it's for things that really need to be resized (e.g. iSCSI LUNs) so instead you have to scroll around lots and maybe write things down as the GUI is so old and unusable.
- arresin 1y ago> seconds to start up on first press. What is going on? It's just a chat interface.. It might be an electron app. Which would be strange but I wouldn’t put it past them.
- delta_p_delta_x 1y agoWindows is technically very interesting. It offers a very different approach to operating systems compared to the UNIX-like competition. I genuinely like it because unlike Linux, it's quite nice to develop desktop applications for, because the vendor supports everything. It's such a pity that said vendor is a giant American megacorp that decided to throw all that in the bin and stuff Windows with ad-infested light Web apps. It irritates me that the user-mode applications and experience is so cancerous, because everything below is pretty decent to work with.
- fsflover 1y agoYou may be interested in ReactOS.
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- daft_pink 1y agoCan they also completely disable Onedrive and any automatic cloud storage from Windows and Office? That’s just the minimum for me to consider moving back to Windows from Mac.
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