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Google shows off Android XR smart glasses with in-lens display
- Freak_NL 1y agoSmart Glasses 2: Revenge of the Glassholes Will it take off as a general consumer product this time? Probably, for some (unfortunately). It will create a whole new class of distracted people in traffic, that's for sure. Someone lost in a smartphone screen is at least visually recognisable (“Better look out for that smombie about to cross…”), but someone dutifully following Google Maps directions on one of these could actually look like they are aware of their surroundings, whilst their full attention is fixed on the little map widget.
- makeitdouble 1y agoIs that much different from people lost in their thoughts or focusing on their podcast ? As you point out, distracted people already exist, and new classes of them will appear every day. The problem exists and I don't want to minimize it, but from a driver's perspective the difference sounds minimal, and doesn't affect how you'll handle the situation (someone looking aware might not actually be)
- metalman 1y agoThis is not comparable to your two examples which are passive, the new device requires active partisipation will be additionaly distracting in that there will be all of the "gotchas" of modern UI design demanding "engagement". Face it, this is an attempt to have everything a person sees and hears projected by a corporate entity....."real time threat awareness" and instant sales opotunintues, just look at anything and find out "how much™", .....offer price determined by pulse, pupil dialation, previous comments,buying power and purchases. good times
- makeitdouble 1y agoI'd somewhat love to hear your thoughts on this crossing at one of the most busy crossing of Tokyo https://youtube.com/shorts/TvL2SR33XEA?si=F_fnbcvRGrizZ0rQ https://youtube.com/shorts/TvL2SR33XEA?si=F_fnbcvRGrizZ0rQ The shibuya crossing also has at least 2 giant screens, with sound, and have been there for decades now. All of them have camera, and they probably have been checking the effect of each of the ads since the screens have been setup. There's a lot to discuss I think.
- thenthenthen 1y agoAny ppl never bump into eachother there ;)
- metalman 1y agoas to the "shibuya" crossing , ya whatever, take it as a given that I have been to many different crossings in big citys and other places...not on any maps the comanality is to create an almost overwhelming spectacle and engage people in such a way that they open up there wallets.... the internet (phones, now "specs") as an always on jittering, jiggling, flashing, binging,bonginging, personal , tic tock, shake down street, is though floundering a bit, as we are all now a bit world weary, short on time, and utterly lacking in a home to go back too and tell our tails of the big city and flashing lights, gaining our own brief spot, at the center of things. yes?, no? just check out the fearsom demand for add blockers, calm down and sleep meds, burn out stories, etc, etc ,etc or ,the very deep sigh when someone I am doing a deal with was commenting on all of the financial shenanigans going on vs/vs trade, tarrifs, and all that, and I said yes....but maybe we will slow down and have a more circular economy, and live better....
- imiric 1y agoYou're right, it's not much different at all. People have been walking around with headphones for decades, and the same prejudice existed early on when Bluetooth headsets were all the rage. XR glasses simply expand this to another sense. Can it arguably be more dangerous? Sure. But we'll come up with more technology and regulation to minimize the dangers. And the prejudice will eventually go away as well. As much as I think that everyone walking around with these things is unsettling in a dystopian way, transhumanism is inevitable, and this is just another step in that direction.
- frankvdwaal 1y agoI am curious, do you have the same anxieties about car drivers using maps applications to navigate?
- Rebelgecko 1y agoMaps not so much, but the people actively watching TikTok or whatever while driving, yes
- victorbjorklund 1y agoWhat about people actively listning to podcasts?
- xnx 1y agoWhatabout talking to a passenger? Looking at and touching a screen is significantly more distracting than listening to a podcast.
- sandspar 1y agoIf road conditions become intense, then passengers will notice, and stop talking to let the driver focus. People on the other end of a speaker phone can't see the road, so will continue blabbing. (Or even try to regain the driver's attention. "Why aren't you responding?") I'm not sure if podcasts are as distracting as someone on a speaker phone, but they similarly don't adapt to the road conditions.
- Freak_NL 1y agoIf they're listening to the instructions, nope. If they are interacting with the display and focussing on the mini map, yes. Not anxiety by the way, just a healthy amount of distrust.
- orbital-decay 1y agoI'm kind of anxious about checking the map when I'm riding a motorcycle in traffic. You can get away with much lower situational awareness in a car simply because you're far more predictable and not invisible. Speaking of which... I'm still waiting for a bike helmet with a back-facing camera/HUD that is neither vaporware nor "smart" (read vendor-dependent and barely working), and doesn't suffer from basic usability mistakes. That would be infinitely more useful and probably easier to make than this.
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- worthless-trash 1y agoI assume with this stance you don't backup to icloud or google drive.
- Disposal8433 1y agoI don't but its irrelevant. Also it's not a backup anyway, but you should respect people around you anyway, it's basic politeness.
- worthless-trash 1y agoWe can't even agree on basic terms, so I dont think we can continue this conversation.
- tjpnz 1y agoNope. I use a combination of home NAS and S3 (for compressed photo archives).
- worthless-trash 1y agoGood that you're sticking to your morals, respect.
- muppet9066 1y agoHasn't it already happened? There are doorbell cameras, CCTV, dash cams, drones, and everyone using a phone is pointing a camera. Cameras are everywhere in public already.
- worthless-trash 1y agoIt took exactly one post for this term to come back. The word was invented by apple PR to ensure that this product didnt take off. Here it is again.
- sdoering 1y agoAnd it will haunt the Apple efforts to get these worn advertising screens into the market as well. Good. Why would one pay for the privilege to have everything they see overlayed with advertisements and every micro-expression analyzed for even better ad targeting? I wouldn’t use a smartphone (or a browser on my computer for that matter) if it weren’t routed through my private DNS blocking advertising and tracking. Whenever I see how the internet looks like for normal people, I shudder in horror.
- frankvdwaal 1y agoWhy one would pay for such a privilege? Because it's the latest new gadget and it's very convenient and its users don't experience any immediate negatives of using it. That's how people will happily let you get away with (digital) murder.
- izacus 1y agoIt's more interesting that somehow it didn't appear with Meta camera glasses which are very popular. Meta is fine with HN crowd it seems?
- worthless-trash 1y agoApple didn't consider them competition, thats my bet.
- TiredOfLife 1y ago> It will create a whole new class of distracted people in traffic, that's for sure. Yes. Transparent glasses are much worse than looking down on your phone.
- dakiol 1y agoI think the problem here is traffic and cars. Seems crazy to think that it’s normalised to be in alert mode 100% of the time when out of your home because of cars. Every corner, every cross, I need to stop and double check for cars otherwise my life could end.
- CaptainFever 1y agoI'm really not looking forward to (pure) humans assaulting cyborgs again. > No shirt. No shoes. No augmented reality glasses. No service. Earlier this month, human cyborg and University of Toronto Professor Steve Mann, claims he was brutalized and kicked out of a Paris McDonald’s after employees objected to his headset and its ability to record photos and videos of his experiences. > [snip] > To draw attention to his plight, on July 16th Mann posted an account of the alleged assault on blogspot, causing an international uproar. The incident has so far been covered by more than three dozen major news outlets, including Tech Crunch, Forbes, Mashable and The Verge. A group on Reddit had more than 2,000 comments as of this writing. Sci-fi blog io9 even described the alleged attack as "the world’s first cybernetic hate crime." https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/cyborg-steve-mann-details-alleged-mcdonald-s-assault-flna889595 https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/cyborg-steve-mann-det...
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- wongarsu 1y agoSounds like the plan is an attempt to position Gemini as a more useful Siri-like assistant by giving it better input and output capabilities in the form of AR glasses
- dvfjsdhgfv 1y agoI'm wondering what convinced the management to try this idea gain after Google Glass failed as a commercial product.
- kuylar 1y agoPutting Gemini in it.
- ncruces 1y agoGoogle Glass development never really stopped. The enterprise editions where on sale for years. They were shelved around the time work on these translation glasses was announced.
- oldpersonintx2 1y agooh come on, Google Glass was so early, it could never be expected to be anything but a hint of a tech demo. no one believed it was a "product"
- smegger001 1y agobecause other companies have done it without it instantly triggering everyone that saw them. Snapchat has Spectacles and Facebook/RayBans have ReyBan-Meta and neither are having customers called glassholes and getting beaten for wearing head mounted cameras everywhere. honestly i think the reason is for whatever reason popular media demonized google glass as evil privacy invading spying device thus killing it in its infancy and ignored snapchat and facebook when they did the same thing.
- worthless-trash 1y agoThe public backlash was from apple fanboys and apple PR department. Some of internal apple data got leaked a while back and they talked about their PR plans which included seeding social media with "glasshole".
- smegger001 1y agoI wonder if there is a case that could be made against for inciting violence as there were people who were literary beaten for waring google glass.
- cladopa 1y agoI see that as a dystopian future. Google wants to model entire cities in real time, just like London with all the cameras everywhere, but for the profit of a private company and three letter agencies. It used to be that in a small village everyone knew what everyone else was doing. Now with cloud connected cameras it will be impossible to have privacy on cities. A google camera will see and follow you anywhere you go. They will recognise you, they will track your movement when you go out of reach of one camera into another. That is too much power and we should not give it to anyone, public or private.
- pjmlp 1y agoIt is not only London. CCTV is everywhere in UK.
- defrost 1y agoTwo decades past, here in Australia, I worked on a proposal for a another party to develop uniform ubiquitous CCTV software infrastructure for the UK as part of a tender process. The people I worked for literally tagged it in house as Panopticon. Big brother social objections aside the one feature I like was ironing out the wrinkles on buses exchanging their most recent footage whenever they parked up at a stop or at lights within wireless range. The driving intent, at theat time. as I was told, was to be sure to have useful footage survive in the event of another wave of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombings I parted ways not long after that initial period as I expected things to drift in the direction of "Well, now that we have this, how can we use it to increasingly track people other than actual terrorists?"
- stavros 1y agoYeah, I don't like the "it's OK to have tyranny for everyone if it means we prevent a few deaths a decade" choice that's constantly being made.
- threeseed 1y agoThere's a UK show called Hunted where contestants go on the run and are chased by law enforcement. It is amazing to see just how quickly they are found because of the all the CCTV cameras.
- dvh 1y ago1. Ok, the subtitles are in the lady's bust area, does that mean that glassholes 2.0 will look down there when they talk with someone? 2. The popup on the bottom right corner "Gemini start translate" is black on top of light background, does that mean that these new glasses can display dark on top of light background? I thought this was impossible with current technology. Or was it faked like magic leap faked the jumping whale demo?
- dakiol 1y agoHow they usually address the fact that 50% of their target market is already wearing glasses? Would they just ignore that 50% in their first iteration and then sell customised smart glasses ?
- muppet9066 1y agoAt Google io, the presenter commented they have prescription lenses in the pair they were wearing
- andybak 1y agoI always wonder this. I was in the target market for Magic Leap / Apple Vision Pro but I never considered buying either because of (among other reasons) the extra hassle of prescription inserts (both for me and for guests who would want to try them). I presume someone has done the maths - but it's always killed my interest in these form factors.
- avrionov 1y agoThis was addressed in the presentation. The are partnering with eyewear brands starting with Gentle Monster and Warby Parker.
- wkat4242 1y agoAren't these just the xreal aura's? I like AR glasses, but I don't really want a camera in them. Especially because of the glasshole effect.
- smegger001 1y agoFacebook rayban smart glasses and snapchats spectacles havent had that effect. And both are largely head mounted cameras
- mystified5016 1y agoBoss has started wearing the ray bans around the office and everyone unanimously agrees he's an asshole for it. Also because he talks about them constantly
- wkat4242 1y agoThey're not as noticeable as Google's. Huge difference. Their basically hidden cameras. Google glass has this huge weird glowy glass brick sticking out and the camera hole is also way bigger (I have the enterprise version myself here). I rarely wear it around others though and if I do I put red tape over the camera so they can see it's inoperative. Though I mainly bought them as a curiosity (second hand for very little). I find an xreal much more useful.
- benrapscallion 1y agoCan’t wait to have 3D “personalized” ad billboards follow me everywhere and “pause” my walking directions until I watch a 30-second unskippable commercial. The VR glasses future is exciting no doubt: too bad however that it is being ushered in by two surveillance, I mean, advertising companies (Google and Facebook).
- piyuv 1y agoReverse “They Live” except we’ll willfully wear the glasses with great enthusiasm