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ACARS Drama
- mmastrac 2y agoOh Jesus: HOWDY, WERE GOING TO NEED LEO MEET THE AIRPLANE FOR A PERSON TOUCHING ANOTHER PAX.
- wulfstan 2y agoYep someone's going to be getting a little chat with the cops for getting handsy. And at 7am for goodness sakes!
- mmastrac 2y agoUpdate: DISPMORNING. NEED LEO TO MEET THE AC. A PAX WAS INAPPROPRIATELY TOUCHING ANOTHER PAX IN THE ROW INFRONT OF THEM. THE FAS HAVE THE SEAT NUMBER ANDMANIFEST. FYI AND THX
- deleted 2y ago[deleted]
- kindatrue 2y agoCould've been an international (overnight) flight. Maybe alcohol was involved.
- petesergeant 2y agothat's nothing https://au.news.yahoo.com/woman-caught-breastfeeding-cat-plane-tell-me-this-fake-023305462.html https://au.news.yahoo.com/woman-caught-breastfeeding-cat-pla...
- mrguyorama 2y agoYup. See also: NO VITALS. NO MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS ON BOARD https://infosec.exchange/@acarsdrama/114200787168449171 https://infosec.exchange/@acarsdrama/114200787168449171
- jparishy 2y agoVery cool. I love these feeds. A very common flow for me when I see something weird on adsb or fr24 is to grab the ICAO address of the plane and search it on https://app.airframes.io/ https://app.airframes.io/ to see if it was sending out any ACARS messages so I can... see what the drama was ha! It's a really fun hobby if you find this stuff interesting. You can pick up an SDR online for like $30 USD and be able to do all this without Internet, above your own home.
- jcims 2y ago(and if you set it up on a raspberry pi and run it full time you can get a free business plan subscription to flightradar24) https://www.flightradar24.com/add-coverage https://www.flightradar24.com/add-coverage
- buildbot 2y ago“HI. LAV A FLUSH HAS FAILED. NO SUCTION. CHEERS” Well, that would be awkward.
- MR4D 2y agoDid anyone else mistakenly read this as “LCARS” and expect something related to the Star Trek interface? Clearly I need more coffee.
- _-_-__-_-_- 2y agoExactly.
- lproven 2y agoYep, me too.
- ape4 2y agoMaybe someday ACARS will support lowercase
- sdh9 2y agoWhy does it need to? What value does that add?
- gnfargbl 2y agoLooks like you can "feed the drama" by sending unauthenticated JSON messages to an endpoint that the site specifies? Fortunately, nobody on the internet has the urge to break things just for the hell of it, so I'm sure everything will be fine.
- kylemh 2y agoaaaand it's dead
- PatchworkCasino 2y agoFrom my experience the tailwatcher and (not) suprisingly related HAM communities are magical in their ability to just trust their community and rarely get burned. Only 4 active connections allowed per site on a popular HAM webring? Never hogged by bots. Site that allows minimally authenticated posting of aircraft ACARS messages? Never seen it hijacked for ads. Physics-limited space for nearly untracable HF radio transmissions that can span half the US? Handfull of trolls that voluntarily relegate themselves to the 'troll freqs'. It's no surprise the site allows unauthenticated JSON; in the rest of the hobby the FCC makes most types of security outright illegal.
- tjohns 2y agoHF is definitely traceable. Hams make an entire sport of of this ("fox hunting"), and the FCC has a network of automated monitoring stations dotted across the country specifically to determine the location of rogue radio transmissions. That said, most of the time it's easier to just ignore the radio trolls.
- jkingsman 2y agoYeah, but like other things, as long as the trolls stay in their corner, people tend not to bother them because better in a contained spot than anywhere else. Learning 7200kHz (and 14.313) is 4chan radio and to steer clear is a radio rite of passage; I doubt most people would WANT to fox hunt them because then they're gonna leave and potentially settle somewhere more disruptive.
- cmpaul 2y ago[flagged]
- reportgunner 2y agoI'm a human so I can't provide an AI summary. Check this summary out though I typed it out with my hands: - airplane people use radio based on some standards from the 1970s to talk to ground people - said airplanes fly over a guy's house so he can receive airplane people messages - guy filters out human readable parts and has a bot that picks few of them that could be funny - bot posts it online
- joezydeco 2y agoIt's a stream of data. Can you AI summarize the twitter firehose?
- Leynos 2y ago[flagged]
- thot_experiment 2y agoI knew watching every mentour pilot and blancolirio video would serve me well. I haven't yet heroically landed a plane after the pilots both had heart attacks, but at least I can read most of these.
- marcellus23 2y agoInteresting that the keyboard for these[0] is not a QWERTY keyboard but instead has the buttons arranged alphabetically. That must be a pain in the ass to type in. Is that because the tech is 50 years old from before QWERTY was the standard? Do newer planes have QWERTY? 0: https://acarsdrama.com/fmc.webp https://acarsdrama.com/fmc.webp Unrelated, this one is cute: https://infosec.exchange/@acarsdrama/114194436695883209 https://infosec.exchange/@acarsdrama/114194436695883209
- joezydeco 2y agoEven if you did QWERTY, how would you arrange it in a 5x6 matrix?
- marcellus23 2y agoI was imagining the panel could be designed such that you wouldn't need to fit it in a 5x6 matrix.
- joezydeco 2y agoAvionics is the area that is the least tolerant of radical redesigns in human interfaces. This FMC form factor has been around a long time. There are newer ACARS/FMC systems that have an actual QWERTY keyboard. https://www.aviationtoday.com/2016/04/27/spectralux-launches-all-in-one-data-link-envoy-at-amcaeec/ https://www.aviationtoday.com/2016/04/27/spectralux-launches... Remember, also, that not all countries use QWERTY. France, one of the homes of Airbus, uses AZERTY. What should they do about their keyboards?
- cccbbbaaa 2y agoUse bépo, of course! More seriously, Airbus uses qwerty since at least the A380. This means that the A350 and the A330, two aircrafts that share a type rating, do not use the same layout.
- Suppafly 2y ago>Is that because the tech is 50 years old from before QWERTY was the standard? QWERTY predates electronic devices.
- weard_beard 2y ago<3 These are the jokes folks.
- wylie39 2y agoWhat's the legality of this? I was thinking of doing something similar but with POCSAG but from what I can tell it would be illegal because of ECPA(Electronic Communications Privacy Act)
- jcims 2y agoPT REPORTS CHEST PAIN RM318
- outworlder 2y agoIt's broadcast in the clear, unencrypted. Just like all non-military aircraft comms.
- lxgr 2y ago> It's broadcast in the clear, unencrypted. But so were analog mobile phones and pagers, and in some countries, even receiving unencrypted voice ATC radio isn't legal.
- lazide 2y agoThe whole point of ATC is that everyone in the area is able to figure out what is going on by listening in. What/how is making listening in on that illegal ok?
- lxgr 2y agoNot sure about the details, but I suspect it's more a consequence of laws on telecommunication privacy from analog days being very generic than a specific intention to make ATC listening illegal. Opt-out vs. opt-in by frequency and/or purpose, essentially. That said, it's supposedly still being very much enforced against e.g. planespotters at airshows in some places – no idea what the point of that is.
- lxgr 2y agoBaffling to get downvoted for a suspicion about the origins of the status quo, as if that were an endorsement of it.
- jcims 2y agoMessage: NO PROBLEM....DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY DELTA PILOTS IT TAKES TO TAXI A PLANE AND NOT RUN INTO ANYTHING... https://infosec.exchange/@acarsdrama/114160399911092776 https://infosec.exchange/@acarsdrama/114160399911092776
- billyhoffman 2y ago!!! Message: DISPMORNING. NEED LEO TO MEET THE AC. A PAX WAS INAPPROPRIATELY TOUCHING ANOTHER PAX IN THE ROW INFRONT OF THEM. THE FAS HAVE THE SEAT NUMBER ANDMANIFEST. FYI AND THX https://infosec.exchange/@acarsdrama/114195325338601167 https://infosec.exchange/@acarsdrama/114195325338601167 [edit: Ahh, its a Frontier flight] https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/keyword/N387FR https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/keyword/N387FR
- RicoElectrico 2y agoRelated: Does anyone have the full message from Korean Air Flight 085 that contained letters HJK? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Flight_085 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Flight_085
- MBCook 2y agoMost of the messages I get. By why show the ones with only an ETA and FOB? Is FOB code for something interesting?
- isabanin 2y agoFOB is Fuel On Board. Nothing interesting.
- MBCook 2y agoAh that makes sense. Though it certainly doesn’t explain why those messages are worth showing. Edit: oh they seem like small numbers. Like 24 or 36, I’m assuming hundreds of pounds? Could it be they are displayed because they have relatively little fuel left? Example: https://infosec.exchange/@acarsdrama/114196005649300274 https://infosec.exchange/@acarsdrama/114196005649300274
- kotaKat 2y agoJust routine updates to base for routing as needed. Hundreds/thousands of pounds on board. They plan their fuel usage fairly meticulously so base will use it in further calculations.
- gosub100 2y agoDispatch could correlate it with the jet stream to see if they are getting good fuel consumption. If it's inefficient, subsequent aircraft might plan a different route. Several years ago I saw a story about the a new record set for fastest Atlantic crossing by a subsonic civilian flight. And due to wind conditions it flew across the US instead of the polar route (it was like LAX to LHW). Basically they just flew with the jet stream and had such a good tailwind they had a supersonic ground speed. 6 or maybe even 700 mph. Their route was much longer than polar but was more efficient because they had a 150 mph tailwind.
- zX41ZdbW 2y agoAlso interesting to see, is a map of all ADS-B emergency broadcasts, which can be: ['general', 'nordo', 'downed', 'lifeguard', 'reserved', 'unlawful', 'minfuel']: https://adsb.exposed/?zoom=5&lat=38.3590&lng=-97.5146&query=cd7afa0ab72c67d093a9bcdb32c7adc9 https://adsb.exposed/?zoom=5&lat=38.3590&lng=-97.5146&query=...
- refulgentis 2y agoThere's something a bit off about this: - I know what ACARS, is and understood less of what's going on here after reading the "What is ACARS drama?" - It's an uncomfortable mirror, a reminder that not everything has to become puerile entertainment. I wouldn't call anything I read in the messages "drama" - The odd obsession over framing it as "drama" & humorous, to the point it is difficult to understand the "what is this?", and collaborators are invited to "Feed the drama" - Open endpoint for anyone to contribute "drama", meaning, anyone can feed anything they want, into this very official-looking feed, without any sourcing / clarification / anything I see how this can read quickly as negativity unfairly directed at creative spirit, the motive power behind man. What tipped me over into "well, it's worth expressing the ick" is that a full 20% of the comments, 14/64, are communicating, speculating, then riffing on, a passenger being molested.
- financetechbro 2y agoI think you are overthinking a fun little project with a memeish name. This stuff is just super fascinating and entertaining to aviation nerds. And using “drama” in the name is just typical hyperbole and almost like gen z / internet slang that you find online. Comments riffing on the LEO request for PAX TOUCHING PAX is just typical forum stuff. Not something that I condone and somewhat unsavory, but it’s the internet and people riff on much more horrible stuff online. Doesn’t mean it’s okay but just not a specific flaw of this project, imo…
- gosub100 2y agoI'm with you on this. I had to look up what ACARS is, but I've been following the ATC YouTube channels that try to make infotainment and I don't like it. I get that the public has an interest in what's going on, but I dislike that there are teams of people sitting around with monitoring software for the express purpose of finding mistakes and faults in people. It just seems wrong. And my guess is in the next few years, we will see pilots unions ask for encrypted channels because they will argue that stress of a national audience will affect their decision making.
- supernova87a 2y agoIs it true, I have heard, that ACARS messages are like as expensive as sending data to Hubble, and airlines hate how expensive it is (hence it is not a viable method of transmitting more volumes of more desired data, like position data, regularly etc.) but have no great alternative that they can develop to replace it?
- modin 2y agoMessage: HELLO..WIFI DOES NOT SEEM TO BE WORKING. ANY PROCEDURES TO RESET. THX Message: LOOKS LIKE WORKING NOW. WE TURNED OFF THEN ON FROM FLT DECK THX Different industries, same procedures :-D https://infosec.exchange/@acarsdrama/114189077174169462 https://infosec.exchange/@acarsdrama/114189077174169462