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Crew-9 Returns to Earth
- 29athrowaway 2y ago[flagged]
- keisborg 2y agoWe all are
- arduanika 2y agoNo, space is trapped in here with us
- krige 2y agoWhen the void stares into you, you stare right back
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- OccamsMirror 2y agoTrapped in the universe?
- maxlin 2y agoDeep
- gcanyon 2y agoLiterally everything is in space, Morty! Get in the car! My second favorite quote from the show.
- refurb 2y agoTechnically true
- baq 2y agoIt’s prisons all the way down
- 0xbs0d 2y agoThere is no gravity. The world sucks.
- croes 2y agoThey weren’t trapped https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/13/science/boeing-starliner-astronauts-stuck-space/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/13/science/boeing-starliner-astr...
- simianparrot 2y agoThey were practically stuck, they just didn’t «feel» stuck or abandoned. What a joke of an article.
- ranguna 2y agoDoesn't the ISS always have a return ship or two in case of emergencies?
- simianparrot 2y agoYes but if they’d used that the remaining astronauts would not have it. Saying they weren’t stuck because there was one life boat is disingenuous, because zero lifeboats for the crew that were to remain is unacceptable.
- croes 2y agoHow many people fit into a rescue ship?
- ChadNauseam 2y agoI remember some discourse saying they were not "trapped" in space (as in physically unable to get to earth safely), they just didn't want there to be only one american crew member on the ISS, or something along those lines. Is anyone on the ISS now, or did they all come home?
- magicalist 2y ago> Is anyone on the ISS now Yes, four astronauts arrived on Saturday on Crew 10 and are there now. edit: They came down on the scheduled Crew 9 craft, which, as the linked caption says, has been docked and waiting at the space station since September.
- bravoetch 2y agoLooks like crew 10 is comprised of four astronauts. Two from the US, one from Japan, and one from Russia.
- thrdbndndn 2y agoIt's less about how many Americans are on the ISS and more about not disturbing the mission schedule (too much), among cost considerations.
- somenameforme 2y agoThey were scheduled to stay there for 8 days and had Boeing's vessel proven flight worthy, they would have returned after 8 days. The messaging beyond that was just political in nature. They could have been rescued, but were left on the station until after the election. The situation resulted in significant issues for the next crewing [1] leading to some interesting things like the first time a Russian cosmonaut was in control of an American spacecraft, let alone a rookie cosmonaut with only basic training on the Dragon. It also led to some interesting improvisations. NASA has a requirement that there be a 'lifeboat' on the ISS for all crew in case of an emergency, but because of the Boeing crew (and the lack of a corresponding vessel), NASA approved a new 'configuration' of the Dragon where up to 3 people could strap themselves to the floor of it, where cargo would normally go, in case of the need of a mass escape from the ISS. [2] As another fun aside, when the Starliner was returning [autonomously] to Earth it experienced two more errors, unrelated to the ones that left the astronauts stranded on the ISS in the first place. What a vessel. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Crew-9 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Crew-9 [2] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Crew_Flight_Test#Uncrewed_return_to_Earth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Crew_Flight_Test#Uncrew...
- rbanffy 2y agoIf I were involved in naming them, I’d add a “from Outer Space” just this time.
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- arduanika 2y agoAh, for "Crew-9"...is this a reference to "Plan 9 From Outer Space"?
- michelsedgh 2y agoThey should make a movie about this, it was all fun we were going to space for 8 days and stayed for 9 MONTHS STRANDED NO WAY BACK HOME. i felt so bad for them honestly. Glad they’re safe and home now.
- kelseydh 2y agoFeels more like getting an extended vacation getting to do the coolest thing you can do as a human.
- ghfhghg 2y ago[flagged]
- w-ll 2y agoi think the flight up is the scariest part.
- jader201 2y agoI’m not sure it’s considered a vacation if you didn’t plan on staying 34x the number of days you had originally planned, or have a choice to leave. Especially when you’re separated from your family and other loved ones.
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- iancmceachern 2y agoI'm going ahead and deciding that astronaut is no longer the awesome job I thought it was when I was younger. I'm good on that.
- OccamsMirror 2y agoYou know in your heart that it still is.
- bdangubic 2y agocoolest thing you can do as human and nothing comes even remotely close
- szundi 2y ago[dead]
- tonyhart7 2y agomaybe not on your lifetime but at the speed of current progress, maybe your son or grandchildren can become space settler to terraform mars in the next generation (that literally coolest thing ever)
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- boxed 2y agoThat's just weird Trump spin. It doesn't even make sense. What is this theoretical political win? This entire thing has been an embarrassment for months and months. He left them there at political cost because NASA told him that was what was best. He listened to the technical experts at his own political cost like a president should do.
- protocolture 2y agoWhat? Why would Biden need a win against Boeing?
- unit149 2y ago[dead]
- gcanyon 2y agoJust sit right back and you'll hear a tale, A tale of a fateful trip, That started from this tropic port Aboard a Boeing ship Two astronauts went up that day, They both were brave and true, The Starliner delivered them, To join ISS crew. ...for an eight day station tour. The testing on the Starliner, Was thoroughly performed. Although it probably was safe, The NASA team were warned. So the Starliner came home to Earth, Without its stalwart crew, The astronauts would stay in space, An extra month or two. ...an extra month or two. So join us here each week my friend, It's such a special place, With two (not!) stranded astronauts, Here in Gilligan's space!
- jansan 2y agoHere is the original song (for those who are ignorant like me): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfSLuEj99d0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfSLuEj99d0
- karaokeyoga 2y agoRelated (vaguely): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43407014 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43407014
- gcanyon 2y agoWow, nice find and highly coincidental!
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- dotancohen 2y agoNice job, but come clean. Was this AI generated?
- gcanyon 2y agoNope! I thought about it, but I just started the first bit and kept going. If I had gotten stuck I would definitely have jumped to AI, but I didn't so here we are.
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- croes 2y agoIt wasn’t a rescue https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/13/science/boeing-starliner-astronauts-stuck-space/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/13/science/boeing-starliner-astr...
- ithkuil 2y agoThey may have fun up there. But it would be also bad for their careers to not project anything but a "prepared and committed" vibe. This is all clearly over politicized
- croes 2y agoYou mean like claiming it was a rescue? Rescues have more of an urgency vibe, don’t you think? Remember the kids stuck in the cave? That was a rescue.
- ithkuil 2y agoyes exactly like claiming it was a rescue. this whole thing is so politicised that just pointing out that even the astronauts involved have their own motivation for doing or saying what they do is interpreted as if I'm defending Musk. I'm disgusted by Musk, during the infamous cave rescue comments and by all he's doing and saying now. That said, astronauts are professionals that have put their lives at stake. They may have died while going up or died while coming back. They know exactly what they signed up for and if the mission has had technical issue and the mission command has deemed necessary for them to stay there they clearly must obey or they won't be seen as fit for the next mission. Why is our public discourse so degraded that just pointing that out automatically means you're endorsing somebody? Trump and Musk and their disgusting braggadocio have truly poisoned society in such a way that normal people immediately jump on the defensive. But by reacting like that you all playing into their hand.
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- neo4llm 2y agoThis is a much better submission detailing the whole ordeal the astronauts went through: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43407821 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43407821
- raverbashing 2y agoThe optics of this were really bad As much as people were saying they were not stranded (and honestly they weren't), having your mission jump from a few days to months is a bummer. Sure, for a carreer astronaut, that's a great experience. But still, well, if I was sent on a professional mission for 3 days and had to stay a couple of months I would be very annoyed, as cool as the mission was. Especially as it was due to (all the problems that were endlessly discussed already)
- indoordin0saur 2y agoMany astronauts get only one chance ever to do this thing which they train for their whole lives. Getting 9 months instead of 8 days seems like a huge deal.
- raverbashing 2y agoYes, I do agree that looking at this angle is a great experience
- senectus1 2y agoThis whole thing has made me very angry. they were not trapped or stranded... they were re-scheduled. This sort of shit happens a lot. the whole "stranded" wordage is being repeated by the MSM seemingly at the behest of the Trump administration and associated cronies.
- bamboozled 2y agoHow else do you make people like you if not to make up nonsense and claim to be the savior of everything? Being a savior is fine, just do it fucking quietly please.
- justlikereddit 2y agoWeaponizing language is old news in politics. The US have been doing it since before I was born and so have everyone else. It's pretty much what politics is. If you find you're suddenly offended by the words of the clown class you're likely to have been massively partisan to the last in-charge circus-troupe
- exodust 2y ago> "they were re-scheduled" You're over-correcting and understating. "Nothing to see here" is not how we describe 8 days turning into 9 months. Don't be angry about hype. Everyone has access to what the astronauts say themselves. In this case, their remarks have been ambiguous, probably because they don't want to be drawn into a shit-storm. They didn't want to be "victims" in any way, so they were not "stranded". But their Boeing shuttle did suffer problems, and that isn't nothing, nor is it a "scheduling issue". End of the day, it was great to see the parachutes open. Health complications can arise for astronauts stuck in space that long. Their return was overdue to the point of being concerning for most people. Fair?
- pveierland 2y agoEric Berger has a good summary on the narrative: https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/03/can-nasa-remain-nonpartisan-when-basic-spaceflight-truths-are-shredded/ https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/03/can-nasa-remain-nonpar...
- pavlov 2y agoBerger is an excellent journalist. He’s very knowledgeable about space topics, has good sources, and has been extremely fair to Musk in the past. When he says it’s a “throne of lies”, a line has been crossed.
- chinathrow 2y agoWhat line?
- n4r9 2y agoExploiting and lying about the monumental efforts of a pioneering industry for cheap political points certainly feels like a line to me.
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- pjc50 2y agoEh, the whole space race has its origins in a propaganda war with the USSR staffed by ex-Nazi engineers. It's not more deserving of sacred purity than anything else. On the other hand, the sheer lying about everything is exhaustive and corrosive to the public sphere. (also while dealing with the villain of the week we've forgotten about the previous villain responsible for this situation, Boeing)
- Y_Y 2y ago> Eh, the whole space race has its origins in a propaganda war with the USSR staffed by ex-Nazi engineers. It's not more deserving of sacred purity than anything else. I certainly agree with this, but at the same time I think it's a red herring. So much good tech comes from war, but the nice thing (imho) is that it's "path independent". I'm no more going to scorn the work of Werner von Braun than I would John von Neumann.
- lurker_jMckQT99 2y agoThe drone footage is absolutely amazing (as compared to any other camera angle from the recovery boat where you would expect to have better quality but was actually awful). I had trouble, for a moment, believing that it was not CGIed. Is there any information about what drone/camera equipment was used?
- fc417fc802 2y agoIt won't play for me. Has it been uploaded anywhere else?
- stanac 2y agoI had the same problem with FF. Try using a chromium browser in incognito mode or with all extensions disabled.
- Narishma 2y agoIt plays fine for me in Firefox.
- lurker_jMckQT99 2y agoyoutube, probably elsewhere as well
- weberer 2y agoHere's the source https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1902026377685295527 https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1902026377685295527
- scotty79 2y agoParachutes were majestic
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- Pinegulf 2y agoCan't we just be happy that the astronauts made it safely back? (+ ignore the political spin from all factions.)
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- ActorNightly 2y ago[flagged]
- Pinegulf 2y agoActually yes. Good things are good regardless who does them.
- ActorNightly 2y agoNot when they are used to prop up bad things or normalize the person doing them.
- keepamovin 2y agoI'm certainly happy. Gravity, however, appeared distinctly displeased.
- SecretDreams 2y ago[flagged]
- foldr 2y agoThere’s only one faction trying to put a political spin on this. This isn’t a “both sides” issue.
- SanjayMehta 2y agoIn all of this, one thing is left unsaid: why were they marooned in orbit in the first place? It seems to me that Boeing might be happy to be forgotten at this time. As an outsider and a cynic to boot, seems to me that corporate profits might trump Trump and his rhetoric.
- Fokamul 2y ago[flagged]
- tw1984 2y agocan they sue NASA for compensation?
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- RandomBacon 2y agoAnyone can file a lawsuit against anyone for any reason, doesn't mean they will win or it won't be summarily dismissed. I doubt the Astronauts have enough money to fund such a lawsuit while becoming some of the most hated people in America.
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- yard2010 2y ago> Kate Tice, an engineer from SpaceX on the webcast, noted that touchdown was imminent. "We're going to stand by for splashdown located in the Gulf of America," she said. Ah, yes. The Gulf of America. This is why we can't have nice things. Haha you got to love the timeline we're living at.
- bradhe 2y agoI would like a different timeline, please.
- lstolcman 2y ago"I wish it need not have happened in my time" said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- DSingularity 2y agoWhat if the others were terminated by nuclear war?
- SecretDreams 2y agoNo new timeline for you!
- weregiraffe 2y agoWhy, a gulf is not a nice thing?
- v3ss0n 2y agoHate all you want to Elon, you still need to credit to credit due.SpaceX did awesome Job.
- madeofpalk 2y agoI don't think Elon really had that much to do with this.
- double051 2y agoBesides making any of this possible?
- SecretDreams 2y agoWith his bare hands and mind, no less!
- amelius 2y agoWhile running his other two companies (Tesla, X), being in charge of DOGE, and making political statements on stages everywhere, AND taking care of his 14 children ... I don't think he was actually involved in this. Or maybe he was there in the mission control room, physically, just for kicks, and annoying the hell out of the engineers. Now that I find somewhat likely.
- theultdev 2y agoYeah must be all of his companies have good employees and all his competitors companies have terrible employees. Nothing to do with the CEO or the company culture. Sort of like Apple, Jobs was probably just annoying his engineers all the time and contributed nothing. /s
- doug_durham 2y agoThat is exactly what is going on. Boeing doesn't have Gwenn Shotwell. She's the one making SpaceX operate.
- heraldgeezer 2y ago[flagged]
- gigatexal 2y agoThis one failure to return astronauts means spacex will replace nasa and that’s insane
- indoordin0saur 2y agoSpaceX doesn't exist without NASA. And without SpaceX NASA would be still stuck in the 90s. It is a mutually beneficial relationship and clearly benefits the US.
- gigatexal 2y agoElon anywhere near power is bad for everyone and everything.
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- lordfrito 2y agoBy any reasonable definition, these astronauts were stranded. If people can be stranded in an airport due to a plane being grounded, then they can be stranded on a space station for the same reason. I mean, they're in orbit, it's not like they could simply walk home. The mental gymnastics on display in this thread reminds me of the Narcissists Prayer. The astronauts weren't stranded in space for 9 months. And if they were, they were lucky and enjoyed their extended vacation. And if they didn't, it's not a big deal it comes with the job. And if it is a big deal, it's not Nasa's/Boeings fault. And if it was, it's not political. And if it is, Elon shouldn't be credited for SpaceX bringing them back. And if he should, he doesn't deserve it. Personally I'm just glad seeing them come home. The stakes are real, lives are at risk, families impacted. Didn't one of the astronauts miss his 30-year wedding anniversary?
- libertine 2y ago> The stakes are real, lives are at risk, families impacted. So let's keep in mind the risk and sacrifices these people make throughout their lives, only to have Elon at any moment accusing them of being traitors.[0] [0]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/elon-musk-calls-mark-kelly-traitor-support-ukraine-rcna195738 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/elon-musk-calls-ma...
- enragedcacti 2y agoThey have had a completely normal emergency evacuation plan since 9/24/24, if they were ever "stranded" it was before that when they would have had to use the Crew-8 Dragon in an abnormal configuration. Is any astronaut who stays longer than planned "stranded"? Did Elon strand Crew-9 when SpaceX missed their deadline on building the Crew-10 Dragon? Or is it just if you can't go home whenever you want? Are Crew-10 stranded right now?!?! Elon please help!!!!!
- lordfrito 2y agoAgain, if your aircraft is grounded you would consider yourself stranded at an airport until you could schedule and board alternate means of travel. Even though you could rent a car and drive 2000 miles, you're much more likely to wait 1 day for a new flight instead of adding 4 days of travel time. And during that day of wait you'd considered yourself stranded, even though you could walk right out of the airport at any time. Emergency options exist, like calling an ambulance, but it doesn't change the fact you're still stranded. You kids would be complaining endlessly about being stranded in an airport for one day, let alone 9 months. If you're on a cruise ship that loses power on high seas, just because you can get into the the emergency life boats doesn't mean you aren't stranded until something more reasonable and accommodating arrives. That's the way the word is used in casual conversation. What's so wrong about calling the crew stranded? Their planned means of travel was "grounded" due to safety issues. Sure, lifeboats existed, but those are for emergencies. This wasn't an emergency. So, they're just regular "stranded" until another vehicle can come and do an unscheduled pickup. Which is what happened here. This isn't rocket science people. Wait, actually it is :)
- TomK32 2y agoThere are much worse places to wait for a flight home. How Trump and Musk acted is just ridiculous and maybe shows that the are missing the bigger picture in complex situations or lack people close to them whole tell them that an action might be a useless publicity stunt or worse have negative impacts further down the road.
- indoordin0saur 2y ago> How Trump and Musk acted is just ridiculous That depends on if the astronauts' return mission was delayed by the previous regime that controlled NASA. It seems like a pretty rational (if unethical) move for Biden's team to attempt to delay things to avoid giving his political rivals a big PR victory. Honestly though, any conversation to that effect would have happened behind closed doors and I doubt that even Musk knows exactly why they decided to delay things.
- TomK32 2y ago> regime that controlled NASA As far as I know the political regime of the USA was a democratic one last year. The PR victory of a returning two astronauts (one of which called space her "happy place"[1]) who didn't take the ride home on a leaky capsule is rather minute and not worth a movie like the Apollo 13 mission. When them staying up longer NASA actually might have gotten more stuff done than if they didn't, even with Crew 10 starting with two empty seats in September. The whole thing isn't as bad as Trump ordering the release of water in Northern California, but once more it shows that he wants to things purely for show with no regards to the consequences. [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/ced019gne3no https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/ced019gne3no
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- johndhi 2y agoOne thing I'm confused by is that we need to do "reporting" to figure out what the truth is here. Can't we just ask the astronauts, or NASA, or something? Why is there no official statement on the matter? There's actually a video of Butch, from the station, saying Musk's description was "entirely factual" - although he then sort of backtracked that. Seems like no one wants to outright explain what happened.
- sanderjd 2y agoYeah, "no one wants to outright explain what happened" is called "chilling effects" and is one of the explicit goals of an authoritarian regime like the one we have in the US now. Nobody wants to get fired and get death threats just for speaking plainly, so most people don't. Every once in awhile someone will decide it's worth the cost, but most people most of the time will decide it isn't.
- winrid 2y agoBiden signed 162 executive orders. Is Trump somehow different here?
- piokoch 2y agoThere are certain historical inadequacies in the article. "That is, the Apollo Program brought the country together in the turbulent 1960s and helped make everyone feel good about the country" This certainly was not 100% true, as some communities protested against Apollo program [1], even though, overall, the progress it has caused helped eventually those communities as well. Nevertheless there were kind of bipartisan agreement to push this program which, in current situation of the divide in the society, would be hard to achieve, given some program pitfalls, like the tragic catastrophe of Apollo 1, which killed Virgil Grissom, Edward Higgins White and Roger Chaffee (worth to not forget those people, who sacrificed their lives for humanity progress). Kennedy (and his wife) personality helped here a lot too, with some murky person, like Nixon, or someone featureless like Johnson it would've been more difficult. Also the claim that 1960s were turbulent is not really correct. In fact, 1970s were really turbulent with the rise of domestic terrorism [2][3]. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/jul/14/apollo-11-civil-rights-black-america-moon https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/jul/14/apollo-11-ci... [2] https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/OPSR_TP_TEVUS_Terrorist-Attacks-US_1970-2013_Overview-508.pdf https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/OPSR_TP... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States
- cco 2y agoThe late 60s definitely qualify as turbulent. What is your claim in the negative?
- creaghpatr 2y agoI think OP meant relative to the 70s.
- culi 2y agoEven today this topic is often brought up in rap lyrics. Quest's last album had a song called "The Space Program" which featured the hook: "There ain't a space program for niggas Yeah, you stuck here, nigga" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Space_Program_(song) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Space_Program_(song)
- game_the0ry 2y agoDisappointed to see how politicized this issue has gotten, especially on HN.
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- russdill 2y agoI don't know how someone aware of the facts and timeline of the situation can read this: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114179081339591399 https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/1141790813395... And say oh, yes, it's the people with TDS/EDS trying to set the record straight that have the problem.
- game_the0ry 2y agoThe problem comes when the few things they do that are good are perceived as bad bc the people doing the good are perceived to be bad.
- russdill 2y agoCertainly, credit should be given here to SpaceX for making such a successful and versatile crew capable vehicle with less budget and time than Boeing. Especially given the things that were being said about the two parties around the time the contracts were being handed out. If contract had instead been given to only Boeing, there would be a decent chance Butch and Suni would have needed to come home on a Soyuz. To people who have watched this saga from the grounding of shuttle until today, the number of administrations and administrators this has passed though, it's just totally bizarre that instead of just a PR boost for the reliability of SpaceX and Crew Dragon (and the failures of Boeing) this has been made into a political issue.
- jasonlotito 2y agoIt's important to remember that before Jan 20, 2025, the astronauts had a way home and had not been stranded by anyone. This is known and is a fact. Then, sometime after that date, Musk stranded them. Considering his working relationship with Trump, one can assume that Trump decided that this was acceptable. So, President Trump and Musk stranded them. We know this is true because President Trump and Musk said they were stranded. If they said they were stranded, it meant that the plan in place had been pulled, and the only people that could do that were Trump and Musk. Sometime after that, they elected to rescue them again. If you take President Trump and Musk's word, they abandoned the astronauts at some point. The only way this is not true is if they were lying to the American people.
- ergocoder 2y agoJust curious. Why didn't they come back earlier? Turning 8 days into 9 months seems bad. Really really bad.
- jasonlotito 2y agoThat's entirely immaterial to my comment. You can read the entire story in other locations. However, none of that changes the fact that my comment is accurate.
- ergocoder 2y agoI read it, and it sounded more like an excuse. Astronauts could have come down anytime but for this weird reason they decided to hang out up there in an unplanned 8 month trip. > my comment is accurate Not really. You mentioned Musk stranded them after Jan 20. They came down less than 2 months after that date. That seems fast for a space trip. Faster than the other 6 months...
- smm11 2y agoRepublican Ronald Reagan defeated Carter in the 1980 presidential election. Although Deputy Secretary of State Warren Christopher had completed negotiations under Algerian auspices to free the American hostages in Tehran, President Carter and Secretary of State Edmund S. Muskie, suffered to their last day in office. On January 20, 1981, the hostages were finally freed—but only after Ronald Reagan had been sworn in as president.
- paulryanrogers 2y agoWhat is the point of posting this? Are you suggesting Trump, like Reagan, may have interfered to delay the release of citizens held up in unusual circumstances--for personal political gain?
- hysan 2y agoHonest question - when I compare the comments here to other threads that have been presumably flagged for political reasons, the discussions don’t look all that dissimilar. There’s no technical discussion and everything devolves into political chatter. Why are other posts flagged but this one not?
- nailer 2y agoEither not enough flags (it's an article about space, not politics), or dang manually removes flags (he commented recently that he does this). I think the former, the latter usually happens when th article itself is political.
- magicmicah85 2y agoThose cheers after the drogue chutes deploy have got to be the best feeling of relief an engineer has ever felt. You can plan, test and validate each others work for years but when it’s finally lives on the line, all you’ve got left while waiting is a wish, hope or prayer everything goes right. Congrats to the SpaceX team and NASA for another successful splashdown.
- sepositus 2y agoIncredible story with a great ending. This used to be an apex HN discussion. It's so sad to see it devolve into a partisan flame war.
- nrb 2y agoUnsurprising that it did after the story itself devolved into a partisan flame war though, emotions are running high when the same sort of misinformation and lies are finding their way into previously sacrosanct topics like space exploration.
- justapassenger 2y ago> previously sacrosanct topics like space exploration. Space exploration was full of misinformation (or corporate BS, if you want to call it that way) for decades.
- aorloff 2y agoThe notion of "apex HN discussion" assumes a kind of fealty to performative feuilletonism that I'm just not yet willing to submit to.
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- GuB-42 2y agoThat's because the main story is one of politics. Take out politics and the story is nothing special. These guys are astronauts, their mission just took longer than expected because people considered it was safer that way. A movie about it would as boring as a movie about people working in space can be. But political figures and the media took the story as an opportunity to do what they do best in creating "engagement", i.e. flame wars.
- ck2 2y agoAre there public domain NASA photos/video? Or is it all now copyright and privatized? Public funding production should mean public domain technology and product. Not just space stuff, publicly funded medicine too.
- mr_toad 2y agoNASA has a whole streaming service. Not sure of the legal status but I thought everything made by the US government was public domain? https://plus.nasa.gov/ https://plus.nasa.gov/
- t1234s 2y agoHow was SpaceX able to custom fit them for new space suits while up in orbit?
- russdill 2y agoBecause NASA had planned on the contingency of them joining the next expedition and returning with Crew-9. The astronauts trained for this possibility and NASA prepared for it. Even going as far as to include EVA suit components with the resupply before they arrived.
- RavingGoat 2y agoTemu apparently delivers to space
- phendrenad2 2y agoI'm really sorry. But "Stranded" is what you call astronauts who were supposed to come home after 8 days in space, but ended up spending 286 days in space, because their planned return vehicle was found to have a flaw, and the backup vehicle was too expensive or also wasn't ready (or whatever reason it took so long to get a Dragon capsule up there). I'm tired of arguing semantics with children.
- randomNumber7 2y agoSo it didn't bo(e)ing into the ground yet most people here shit on Elon. I take that guy over those that killed 500 people by trying to save money on a sensor.
- sophacles 2y agoIt turns out, no matter how hard you squint, no matter how many drugs you take, or how many times you smash yourself in the head with a hammer, the fact remains: Elon is a human person. As such, he has many skills and many faults. This is something true of all humans. It seems that two of Elon's skills are: hire rocket scientists and not insert him self too much in the process of rocket science to cause catastrophe. Elon also has faults, and those are fair game to shit on. An egotistical blowhard that lies about being good at video games like a third grader desperate for friends on the the playground can also be good at hiring rocket scientists. They are orthogonal facts and can both exist at the same time.
- trompetenaccoun 2y ago>not insert him self too much in the process of rocket science to cause catastrophe The fact that many believe all these companies thrive despite the leadership is fascinating. I've heard this same take over and over. One can't keep hiring the right people and make the right decisions without understanding how things work. Bezos is an extremely skilled manager yet his space company, which has actually been around longer than SpaceX as well, amounted to nothing like it. We could write it off to pure luck maybe, if Musk weren't a serial entrepreneur. There must be some sort of psychological phenomenon explaining this irrational way of viewing his achievements. I feel like that often when people talk about Musk they aren't even talking about him but some sort of fictional character that seems to exist purely in the imagination of certain people. And it's never those who actually worked with him.
- sophacles 2y agoI think you're being just a bit too triggered by my calling out one of his negatives - and it's delusional to think a grown man lying about his video game prowess to impress randoms isn't extremely pathetic - to see that this is an actual skill. A common failure mode of leaders is to get too down into the trenches and insert themselves into places that would be better left alone. Even very technical leaders in an area of their expertise - they can demoralize a team by telling them to do it better and belittling them, they can be too excited and change plans too often for the boring but necessary work to get done right, they can just be over-bearing and take on a pile of work they hired others to do (to "do it right myself") and fail from the load/burnout. It's a genuine skill to not over-insert oneself. My literal message was Elon Musk is a human, with good and bad traits - then I listed some of each. > I feel like that often when people talk about Musk they aren't even talking about him but some sort of fictional character that seems to exist purely in the imagination of certain people. I know this psychological phenomenon its called projection - I'm not worshiping a fictional engineering and management god called Elon Musk, so when I call out bad things he's done you take your fictionalization and assume I'm doing the same sort of thing.
- dwoldrich 2y agoWho here wants a ticker tape parade to cheer on our brave astronauts!?! When the parade ends at the stadium, we'll be treated to Musk and Trump on the jumbotron thanking them and wild 'U-S-A' chants as the astronauts circle the track! Confetti and flags!! Who here still wants a ticker tape parade to cheer on our brave, heroic astronauts?!?
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- mncharity 2y agoIs a fine-tune to strongman arguments, around some narrow topic, currently plausible? Reading through today's discussion, I wondered if one might be of assistance.
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