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That's incredible. The plane literally turned over and burnt but no casualty. The flight staff must have done as amazing job keeping everyone calm and helped ev
by guardiangod 2y ago
That's incredible. The plane literally turned over and burnt but no casualty. The flight staff must have done as amazing job keeping everyone calm and helped everyone get out of the upside, burning plane.
- donsupreme 2y ago3 in critical condition so I read.
- culi 2y agoI also read everyone is expected to survive. Hope those in critical condition are able to make a full recovery
- ls612 2y agoSurvive sure. But one of the people in critical condition is a small infant that got thrown out of their lap belt so they will probably have life-altering injuries from this.
- RachelF 2y agoIt also looks like a wing has been ripped off. That passengers could survive an accident involving so much force is surprising.
- chrisco255 2y agoDid it roll after landing or before landing?
- hinkley 2y agoThe fact that people lived suggests after.
- alistairSH 2y agoI saw a report that it was after touchdown. I’m guessing wind, ice, or something else moved the plane off the centerline and into a crab, it hooked a wheel off the pavement, and cartwheeled. 100% conjecture at this point, just seems like a possible chain of events.
- voisin 2y agoToronto Pearson had wind gusts of 60km/h today. Edit: listing to the ATC audio I think they said gusts in the 30s (man do they ever speak fast and mumble! Enunciate damn it! Unique New York), which is markedly slower than what the Apple Weather app reported for Pearson.
- petschge 2y agoRemember that ATC will give wind speeds in knots, not km/h.
- voisin 2y agoDoh! My mistake. Thanks for pointing that out
- shazeline 2y agoIt was gusting at 33kts. 33kt/hr * 1.15mi/kt * 1.609km/mi ~= 61km/hr. The weather app was right. Just different units.
- voisin 2y agoWhoops of course! My mistake
- WalterBright 2y agoToo bad the airport couldn't find the funds to put a dash cam in the tower. Grump grump grump.
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- DebtDeflation 2y agoAfter touchdown, but it rolled sideways not end over end. This kept the fuselage intact and ripped off the wings (where all the fuel is) which is why everyone survived.
- eastbound 2y agoJust to understand: Did it roll upside down, with people’s head at the bottom, or sideways, with people’s back to the front of the direction?
- cm2187 2y agoIt certainly ended up upside down.
- sangnoir 2y agoWhat you describe in the second sentence - rotating around the vertical-axis - is typically termed a spin . I think parent was saying the roll was along the planes' length rather than tail-over-nose, the latter usually result in the aircraft breaking up as the torque will be really high.
- FabHK 2y agoRotation around the - longitudinal axis: roll, controlled by ailerons. - vertical axis: yaw, controlled by rudder. - lateral axis (through the wings): pitch, controlled by elevators.
- sangnoir 2y agoThanks - those are correct terms for aircraft in flight, that don't apply to out-of-control vehicles on the ground. An airplane that loses traction and rotates about it's vertical axis is spinning, not yawing.
- account42 2y agoIn case you (or others confused) haven't seen it year, this video clearly shows the sideways roll: https://www.reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFailure/comments/1isabtg/a_clear_visual_of_delta_airlines_crashlanding_at/ https://www.reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFailure/comments/1isabt...
- wkat4242 2y agoTrue but I have a feeling it might be designed to rip off in this situation. I'm more surprised the wing rupture didn't cause a fire/explosion because this is where most of the fuel is stored.
- dotBen 2y agoPlanes typically land with little fuel left (obviously enough for emergencies etc but they are practically empty, it's safer and more efficient)
- nradov 2y agoThat's not really accurate. Commercial airliners typically land with significant reserve fuel remaining on board. If a post crash fire ignites and isn't rapidly put out then that reserve fuel will be plenty to destroy the aircraft and kill everyone who doesn't evacuate quickly. https://simpleflying.com/minimum-fuel-requirements-definitions-guide/ https://simpleflying.com/minimum-fuel-requirements-definitio...
- cperciva 2y agoLess than a full load certainly, but I wouldn't say "little fuel". 30 minutes fuel remaining is an automatic mayday call.
- sitharus 2y agoIn normal operation, an aeroplane lands with enough fuel for one go-around and re-attempt at landing at the chosen airport, plus enough for diversion to their alternate, plus an additional 30 minutes of flight. If an aircraft is anticipated to land with fuel for 30 minutes or less they must make a mayday call, and there's an incident report to fill in. Yes they want to land with as little fuel as possible, but regulations require them to carry more because we know what happens when you let airlines carry less.
- stouset 2y agoI seriously, seriously doubt it. The wings are so utterly critical to flight I can’t possibly imagine any situation they’d be engineered to snap off under. Further, that’s where the fuel is and any crash involving a wing rupture is dramatically more dangerous given the risk of fire. Hell even in a crash landing like this you want the plane to stay upright and stable.
- cm2187 2y agoNot only ripped off but if you look at the video it looks like the wings exploded with a ball of fire.
- gosub100 2y agoThat might have saved them, breaking the source of fuel away
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- wkat4242 2y agoYeah, a similar thing happened in Cork and half the passengers died. The operators were huge clowns though. Of course Delta is a legit operation.
- queuebert 2y ago> ...Delta is a legit operation. Unless you're a checked bag.
- arghandugh 2y agoThere were over a dozen casualties. The word you want is fatality.
- mmooss 2y agoPer the article, one passenger "was flying to Toronto for a paramedics conference". Maybe there were more conference-goers.
- yibg 2y agonit: no fatalities, but definite some casualties.
- muddi900 2y agoNo fatalities. I believe there were some injuries.
- TimByte 2y agoIn a situation like that how the crew handles things makes all the difference. Definitely seems like they did an incredible job
- chakintosh 2y agoFootage from inside the plane of a flight attendant clearing passengers. https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1irwh9x/passenger_on_delta_airlines_films_the_moment_they/ https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1irwh9x/...
- varjag 2y agoLowkey mad at the lady dragging her hand luggage.
- kolp 2y agoTo be fair, it had all her stuff, so she couldn't just leave it behind. /s
- tssge 2y agoSarcasm aside, while still not acceptable, some people might not have the means to buy new items to replace what they lost in a crash. So it is understandable for some people to make the choice of taking their luggage with them in such an event, as they might not have the wealth and/or insurance necessary to replace those items afterwards. Of course the solution would be to make airlines liable to replace passengers' luggage in the event of a crash and inform the passengers that they will do so, but that's not how the world works currently.
- prmoustache 2y agoYou really only have to keep your important papers in your pants pockets.
- account42 2y agoWould be easier if airplane seats weren't as cramped.
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- bambax 2y ago"A good landing is when there are no casualties; an excellent landing is when the plane can fly again." This was therefore a good landing.
- agsnu 2y ago3 were critically injured, so not “no casualties” but pretty darned close all things considered
- Cthulhu_ 2y agoThe critical injuries were rescinded again though.
- evertedsphere 2y ago"a good landing is one where the people on board can fly again…" even
- account42 2y agoThat's a pretty low bar. Corpses can also fly again.
- Cthulhu_ 2y agoThis makes me feel better about playing Kerbal Space Program.