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Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

• enceladus06 2y ago
  Ublock origin lite still works. Had to uninstall and reinstall but ads are still blocked on everything including YouTube.
  • ycombinatrix 2y ago
    That's the crappy manifest V3 best effort knockoff of uBlock
• mcflubbins 2y ago
  > Weird returning to Firefox, but I did and there is nothing in chrome I miss. Never left Firefox, never had much of a reason. The Node.js debugger integration stuff brings me to Chrome every once in a while but I don't use for my daily browsing.
• randomcatuser 2y ago
  yeah same... but then i got an ad for Pie, which i guess works to block youtube ads
• gnabgib 2y ago
  Discussion (119 points, 79 days ago, 62 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41757178 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41757178
• peutetre 2y ago
  Friends don't let friends use Chrome. Use Firefox. uBlock Origin works best with Firefox: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-best-on-Firefox https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-b...
  • taf2 2y ago
    Sorry until Firefox wakes up and fixes bugs breaking the internet like this one https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1195654 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1195654 I can sadly never recommend it
  • imcritic 2y ago
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  • ornornor 2y ago
    Unfortunately Firefox is slower than chromium and the devtools are worse. I used Firefox for years because I hate google. I eventually gave up, that’s how bad ff is.
    • Zardoz84 2y ago
      I think that Firefox dev tools are better
      • Alex-Programs 2y ago
        Yeah, I'm used to the Firefox ones and whenever I use the chrome ones they seem fine, worse in some ways but better in others (device emulation) while being a little unfamiliar. The webextension dev tools are better too, imo.
      • ramon156 2y ago
        My average friend doesn't care about devtools, only if they can watch YouTube in silence
    • winrid 2y ago
      FF actually uses hardware acceleration on my machine and chrome won't for some reason, so FF is actually faster for some!
  • bartvk 2y ago
    Yeah, I don't get all this fuss. I mean, if you block ads then do you think Chrome will also stop reporting to the mothership? Of course not. Use Firefox and simple be done with all this hoohah.
• not_your_vase 2y ago
  That definitely shows why Google isn't abusing its monopoly powers, and why it shouldn't be broken up.
  • syvanen 2y ago
    It’s so weird to observe how Alphabet doesn’t seem to even try to keep its parts separated. Amazon at least tries keeps its companies separated from each other. AWS account teams doesn’t know what Amazon teams do and vice versa. While Google Cloud account team constantly gets involved with Workspaces, Ads and Google Play related stuff. If I remember right just few years ago Google was told to stop giving cheaper prices on Google Cloud based on customers Ads and Google Play revenue.
    • jsnell 2y ago
      > While Google Cloud account team constantly gets involved with Workspaces, Ads and Google Play related stuff. Not sure what you mean. Do you have a couple of concrete examples of that? > If I remember right just few years ago Google was told to stop giving cheaper prices on Google Cloud based on customers Ads and Google Play revenue. This one you've definitely just made up.
      • lobsterthief 2y ago
        I see offers (or “ads”) for Google Ads inside of the Google Cloud Platform Dashboard all the time.
      • syvanen 2y ago
        > This one you've definitely just made up. It was called "Project Hug". Based on the different sources it contained credits for all the google offerings such as Ads, Youtube and Google Cloud in exchange for keeping apps on the Google Play platform. Different repots on this: https://www.gamesindustry.biz/google-reportedly-paid-activision-riot-millions-to-prevent-them-from-opening-rival-app-stores https://www.gamesindustry.biz/google-reportedly-paid-activis... https://gizmodo.com/google-denies-its-project-hug-bribed-20-developers-1851009202 https://gizmodo.com/google-denies-its-project-hug-bribed-20-... https://www.theverge.com/23959932/epic-v-google-trial-antitrust-play-store-fortnite-recap https://www.theverge.com/23959932/epic-v-google-trial-antitr...
• Krustopolis 2y ago
  Happened to me a couple of days ago. I installed Ublock Lite and it seems “good enough”.
  • arresin 2y ago
    It doesn’t do content blocking unfortunately.
    • quenix 2y ago
      What do you mean?
    • ImJamal 2y ago
      I highly doubt most people use content blocking so it will work fine for the average person.
  • thebytefairy 2y ago
    For the vast majority of users Lite does the job just fine.
  • cpach 2y ago
    Clickable link to uBlock Origin Lite: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ublock-origin-lite/ddkjiahejlhfcafbddmgiahcphecmpfh https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ublock-origin-lite/... I installed it a few days ago. It works fine.
• Flimm 2y ago
  Reminder: uBlock and uBlock Origin are different extensions from different developers.
  • hightrix 2y ago
    Additionally, Ublock Origin is the one you probably want.
• tech234a 2y ago
  The removal can be bypassed until June 2025: https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/1d49ud1/manifest_v2_phaseout_begins/l6cuqzg/ https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/1d49ud1/manif...
  • peutetre 2y ago
    Bypass Chrome altogether. Use Firefox.
    • infotainment 2y ago
      If only Mozilla (the parent organization) wasn’t horrible. Can’t a non-crazy nonprofit make a browser?
      • wkat4242 2y ago
        What's so horrible about it? I don't like how they're pampering to the ad industry now but other than that I think they're pretty decent.
        • 6510 2y ago
          If I donate to your project I hope the money goes towards your project. If you spend it on beer or buy Jacuzzi I'm happy too. If you chose to spend it on other projects ill be excited to learn what they are. https://future.mozilla.org/projects/ https://future.mozilla.org/projects/ Do you use any of that? Is there anything there I should be using? (honest question) It seems premature to donate to things I don't know. > Solo helps entrepreneurs expand their web presence with a suite of AI-backed tools for building websites, optimizing for SEO, and showcasing your best work. > Solo will instantly create a beautiful website so you can grow your business. > Improve brand visibility: SEO keywords are automatically added to help drive search traffic. View statistics by connecting a Google Analytics account. I'm very biased no doubt, it reads like I donate to progress the commercial web, more canned template websites, product SEO and to promote the use of google analytics. I'm sure it is awesome to some people, to me it is the opposite, I'm sure it is a project that should exist some place but I don't want to pay for it. The web browser can still be infinitely improved.
• darthrupert 2y ago
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  • Zardoz84 2y ago
    People suggesting that using uBlock Lite and not Firefox with full uBlock, probably not has been in an abusive relationship.
    • grayhatter 2y ago
      or have, and that's why they can recognize the warning signs that op can't.
• sonudfgh 2y ago
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• wklm 2y ago
  Could someone explain in simple terms, what’s so tricky about spinning off a v2-compatible chromium fork?
  • Jyaif 2y ago
    Forget about forking, just offering a build of Chromium for a single platform and architecture that gets the security updates in time is a lot of work.
  • wruza 2y ago
    People who remove v2, own ad networks, develop chrome and write standards are the same people. It’s new age mafia, cancer of the internet and they do everything for you to not be able to just spin off a fork.
    • efilife 2y ago
      So what would they do?
      • wruza 2y ago
        Already done: used lying tactics to make their browser and ad networks dominate, bloated the standard to make browser development unsustainable. Right now: rooting out the entire possibility of running full adblock-capable extensions from the sources, so that even chrome-based browsers could not support it back.
  • HDThoreaun 2y ago
    Chromium is maintained by the largest ad company in the world.
  • kobalsky 2y ago
    google can weaponize structural changes to make any v2 maintainer's life a living hell, the code base is massive.
  • Havoc 2y ago
    It’ll drift apart over time and become ever harder to track the upstream without engineering effort
• Jahak 2y ago
  Oh no! That's really disappointing!
• pogue 2y ago
  Both Brave & Opera have built in adblockers that are not dependent on Manifest to run. I haven't played with Opera too much, but Brave lets you add custom lists and works quite well. Combine that with a DNS based adblocker such as HaGeZi [1] or OISD from free DNS providers like ControlD or NextDNS and you'll be golden. [1] https://github.com/hagezi/dns-blocklists?tab=readme-ov-file#dnsservices https://github.com/hagezi/dns-blocklists?tab=readme-ov-file#...
  • mancerayder 2y ago
    I'm using Brave and have no idea why you got downvoted. People are talking like Chrome and FF are the only two things on Earth.
    • mancerayder 2y ago
      The silent downvote curse spreads. Can someone kindly speak up and explain? What's wrong with talking about Brave?
      • cwillu 2y ago
        I downvote comments that disregard the hn guidelines. “Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.”
      • eYrKEC2 2y ago
        They don't like the politics of Brenden Eich. As Lenin would say, "Who? Whom?"
  • octopoc 2y ago
    Yeah plus Brave on iPhone auto blocks ads. No extensions or configuration needed. Not sure if Firefox does that.
    • spauldo 2y ago
      No, and it shouldn't. Firefox is a general purpose browser, so it should display web pages as the author intends. Security/anti-malware is expected, but changes in content are outside its scope. That's what extensions are for. If you're installing Brave or Opera, you're not interested in a general purpose browser. Adblock is part of their advertised feature set.
• NotYourLawyer 2y ago
  Chrome is trash, download Firefox and never look back.
  • freehorse 2y ago
    Totally agree. Just avoid chrome and all those chrome-derived malware and use firefox.
• r0ckarong 2y ago
  Just use Firefox ffs.
• KurtMueller 2y ago
  Come join the Firefox revolution!
  • dagurp 2y ago
    You could also use Vivaldi which has a built-in ad blocker
    • bdangubic 2y ago
      so many folk here on HN inexplicably are stuck on using Google Chrome which I honestly just do not understand at all…
  • irobeth 2y ago
    It really is amazing how things have come full circle from the point where chrome positioned itself as a "Libre" alternative to the IE near-monopoly There was a point between IE and chrome when Mozilla was always in the near-foreground offering alternatives to every internet hegemony, right around web 2.0, kinda makes me optimistic for the internet to see a resurgence of recommendations
    • ffsm8 2y ago
      Huh, I don't remember that narrative at all... From how I remember it, we started with Netscape, IE outcompeted that by adding new features until they had enough share to strangle the competition. By that time IE became mandatory because of their extensions. Windows systems couldn't get updates without opening IE. Eventually it (IE) fossilized and Firefox became the better browser with more features (remember that debugging extension?) but was still pretty slow. Then came chrome. Way way faster, sleek and modern UI, removing the search and tool-bars. Hiding bookmarks by default and putting everything into the Omni bar. Really, that was what everyone I know of cared about: responsiveness/speed and that sleek UI. Finally Firefox improved its resource usage/speed and adjusted it's UI, taking inspiration from chrome... But by that time, it's popularity had already dropped massively.
      • 2y ago
• singleshot_ 2y ago
  What can uBlock Origin do that one couldn't do with a sufficiently sophisticated SSL-terminating forward proxy?
  • crtasm 2y ago
    Remove elements added dynamically without entirely blocking the script that produces them.
    • singleshot_ 2y ago
      Yeah, this seems like the blocker here. Thanks for thinking this through more effectively than I did.
  • HDThoreaun 2y ago
    Using a proxy to do DNS blocking has significant failures modes. They wont work on youtube because youtube uses the same endpoint to serve the videos and ads for starters.
    • singleshot_ 2y ago
      No, not DNS blocking; content parsing and editing before it arrives in the browser. I agree DNS blocking is mostly trash. It's not just youtube/google, but anything that uses Akamai will be pretty hosed too.
      • HDThoreaun 2y ago
        Then the problem is you have to wait for the ping to your proxy/emulator every time you want to run some JS because it needs to run whatever blocking script youve got on the output.
  • grayhatter 2y ago
    provide a UI within the browser chrome
• wruza 2y ago
  I guess Vivaldi awaits the same fate. I don’t want to switch from it, especially to Firefox, so much. It’s in little things like context menus, gestures (don’t tell me about that “crx” extension crapware), tab order/cycle behaviors, downloads ux, bookmarks ux, customization, etc etc. These “default” browsers always feel like Crysis 3 gameplay wrapped into a primitive text adventure interface.
• barrenko 2y ago
  Seriously, what is a good alternative to Chrome's password management? For lazy end users.
  • cozzyd 2y ago
    Firefox sync?
  • isubkhankulov 2y ago
    1password if you are willing to pay for it. If you’re not, Bitwarden is just as good and it’s free / open source.
    • barrenko 2y ago
      Thank you all for the suggestions.
  • shitlord 2y ago
    I set up Bitwarden for my dad who keeps forgetting his passwords. It seems to work well on his PC and Android phone.
  • leohart 2y ago
    I have always found Bitwarden to be the best one after trying many alternatives. One thing that stood out is how its phone app works seamlessly with FaceID/Fingerprint. From logged out to login is as smooth as allowing your phone to use biometrics. Bitwarden seems to be getting updates often as well which I value in a security conscious product.
  • freehorse 2y ago
    A real password manager I use proton pass
  • eYrKEC2 2y ago
    Brave. It's Chrime with builtin ad blocking.
    • 2y ago
• mancerayder 2y ago
  Brave seems to work well with its privacy shield and a button to turn scripts off as-needed. People only focus on Firefox as an alternative. Am I missing something?
  • pixxel 2y ago
    Brave CEO once said some mild hurty words about a fragile group, and so the lefty hive must not publicly support his endeavours (whilst using his JavaScript all day long lol).
    • mancerayder 2y ago
      I haven't the first clue about the politics but I'm guessing the response is more toxic than the original message.
      • spauldo 2y ago
        IIRC, the guy donated some money to some anti-LGBT groups back when he was CEO of Mozilla Corp. People associated it with Mozilla in general (even though they were personal donations, not from Mozilla) and he ended up having to resign. He then founded Brave. Honesty I feel more antipathy for him (and Andreesen) for saddling us with Javascript, but I understand why people don't want to use his products.
        • mancerayder 2y ago
          That's fine, and a reasonable reason to dislike and boycott usage. What's weird about the HN response is the silent down voting instead of calm explanation like you just did. The topic turned into moving from Chrome, and only Firefox was essentially mentioned.
    • ImJamal 2y ago
      As far as I know he didn't even say hurtful words. He made a personal monetary donation to a California amendment that passed.
• enriqueycombi 2y ago
  Lame. Try using NextDNS to block ads entirely instead of just in Chrome. Also, duck.com has a browser extension that can do this. You could also just use their browser instead.
  • rcxdude 2y ago
    DNS-level blocking is more or less what Chrome's more limited API allows you to do. Full-fat adblockers can do a lot more.
    • Havoc 2y ago
      Ideally both. I’ve found that dns still ends up catching requests even with v2 manifest ublock
  • snailmailman 2y ago
    There are many types of ads that cannot be blocked by dns-based blockers. Just like there are ads that can’t be blocked by the new “ublock lite” that is allowed in manifest v3. uBlock origin can do more complex ad detection and removal, and is the most thorough approach for anything in the browser.
• mococa 2y ago
  Wipr for the win, Chrome nevermore.
  • Meph504 2y ago
    The irony is it isn't for the win(dows)
  • raydev 2y ago
    Last time I tried Wipr+Safari, it didn't match the power of uBO+Chrome.
    • mococa 2y ago
      I have been using Wipr v2, which achieves a 100% block rate in tests. In comparison, uBlock Origin (uBO) typically reaches 98–99% on the same tests. The fact that Chrome has nerfed ad blockers prompted me to switch. I have used Chrome consistently since its early alpha versions around 2008. However, ad blockers are absolutely essential to me. The web is not safe without them.
  • literallyroy 2y ago
    Better than 1Blocker?
    • mococa 2y ago
      I have never tried this one.
• SnowingXIV 2y ago
  There has to be google engineers here. Does this just fall on deaf ears? I realize it’s a massive corp but imagine high ranking staff have a say and input. Maybe they don’t and Sundar isn’t worried about that. Or they do a simple cost analysis and short-term they see the benefit and are willing to to risk long term erosion that maybe be minimal. Weird returning to Firefox, but I did and there is nothing in chrome I miss.
  • acheron 2y ago
    If only Stalin knew!
  • oliwarner 2y ago
    Google is an advertising agency. It's a miracle blockers lasted this long.
  • Raed667 2y ago
    by now they have made tons of user-hostile changes, just to see the line keep going up, they know that there is a loud vocal minority, but most users are totally fine with MV3 if they even notice a change at all.
  • whamlastxmas 2y ago
    Google is deliberately doing this to break ad blocking for Google ads while still allowing ad blockers to work for non Google ads. Most users probably won’t care enough to change browsers or many won’t really notice
    • ac29 2y ago
      > Google is deliberately doing this to break ad blocking for Google ads If so, they are doing a crap job of it because uBlock Origin Lite successfully blocks all of the search ads on google.com
      • SSchick 2y ago
        They were pretty much forced to do this slowly and gradually. There was a large amount of external pushback and some internal too (though money controls here).
• CLiED 2y ago
  I'm superlatively surprised Google has followed through on what it has promised to do over and over again.
  • kacesensitive 2y ago
    "I'm surprised they did what they said they would do" will be the anthem of 2025 unfortunately
• mindcrash 2y ago
  If you want a Chromium based browser Brave has a uBlock-esque blocker built right into its core but it's disabled by default because "Brave Shields is enough protection" (it isn't, given the stats I see when enabled). Anyway, you can turn it on and it uses the same blocklists uBlock uses aswell.
  • cbluth 2y ago
    Any reference or instructions on how to do that?
  • JPLeRouzic 2y ago
    > "if you want a Chromium based browser' There is also Vivaldi: https://help.vivaldi.com https://help.vivaldi.com
    • Filligree 2y ago
      Alas, it crashes every time I try to import my Chrome profile.
    • zamalek 2y ago
      Vivaldi would not stop offering to sign me into google automatically on sites that support it, it kept re-enabling it somehow. How this is enabled on a privacy-aware browser is beyond me. Brave is pretty good once you disable all the crypto stuff.
  • nyarlathotep_ 2y ago
    Wait, really? There's something other than the default "shields" thing? Where is this and how do I enable it? Been using Brave for years with all the "aggressive" boxes checked and I've never seen such an option anywhere.
    • attentive 2y ago
      brave://settings/shields/filters
• bdangubic 2y ago
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• cwillu 2y ago
  ~$ cat /etc/chromium/policies/managed/ubo-policies.json { "ExtensionManifestV2Availability": 2 } Will save you for another year.
  • kkfx 2y ago
    If I recall correctly only till June 2025, did they change the date?
    • alihm 2y ago
      I'm not sure but a lot of people hypothesize that they will have to keep this feature for enterprise customers (not for UBO but other custom enterprise extensions that use manifest v2)
      • chii 2y ago
        they can easily just blacklist ubo if they really wanted to remove it. And they can make it plausibly deniable - by blacklisting the extension id of anything that is in the chrome extension store that originally had manifestV2 (which will have some collateral damage, but obviously google doesn't care).
        • anticensor 2y ago
          But that would also harm companies that actually intend to switch to a v3 based replacement but need a bit of time to complete the development.
          • chii 2y ago
            That's what the registry entry for the manifestV2 time extension is for - this was actually known for several years already, and 2025 june is meant to have been the deadline for that development.
  • pieter_mj 2y ago
    In windows start regedit as administrator and navigate to/create HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Google\Chrome. Under the Chrome key, create a DWORD value named "ExtensionManifestV2Availability" with hex value 2. Restart Chrome. If successful, you'll notice the ExtensionManifestV2Availability entry with value 2 in chrome://policy and the settings page will mention "managed by your organization".
• dizhn 2y ago
  There's some chrome attestation stuff I've been starting to see for implementing security related services. The support for that is probably bundled with this manifest v3 thing? Or is the device attestation separate? If they are bundled, Firefox will disappear even more in corporate and probably at home too.
• olliej 2y ago
  I just use Safari and 1Blocker and everything works fine for me :D
• gaws 2y ago
  Replace Chrome with Firefox. Reinstall uBlock Origin. Problem solved.
• gbraad 2y ago
  So far no issue with Vivaldi as it runs these extensions. Have avoided Chrome for years and no regrets. Others might still work too, like brave?
• RandyOrion 2y ago
  Using ungoogled chromium for now. Ublock works without hassle. Note that it's MORE complicated to setup ungoogled chromium because it doesn't contain any basic syncing service and update service. You need to do the first time setup manually as said in its FAQ. You also need to setup your own or use existing account / bookmark syncing service as well as software update service for convenience, e.g., vaultwarden server and bitwarden extension for account syncing.
  • spl757 2y ago
    not trying to convince you to switch, but is there a reason you need to use chrome and jump through a bunch of hoops instead of just using a browser like firefox?
    • Suppafly 2y ago
      >but is there a reason you need to use chrome and jump through a bunch of hoops instead of just using a browser like firefox? Not the other guy, but chrome is just feels so much better to use. Sure you can use something else and eventually get used to it, but a lot of things just feel off in firefox. I used firefox years ago and the switch the chrome immediately felt better, anytime I've tried to go back the switch immediately worse. I don't begrudge anyone not wanting to do that.
• QuiEgo 2y ago
  I find this whole thing frustrating. Chrome is going full on user hostile. But, most people use it, so webpages "just work." It's also reasonably good on battery use and memory (as of late 2024 - it's come a long way). Safari is resource efficient but has very few browser extensions, and sometimes webpages just don't work correctly with it. Firefox has uBlock but has noticeably worse battery life, and does not honor the host OS UI conventions (right click, look up... is something I use all the time sigh). None of them make me a happy user.
  • greazy 2y ago
    Is there any benchmarking of Firefox vs Chrome?I have not seen any hard data, only anecdotal evidence. I use it on android with no noticeable difference. I use Firefox everywhere, haven't had a problem.
    • QuiEgo 2y ago
      On macOS, I've seen a few attempts like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/macapps/comments/12n7162/part_3_final_browser_energy_efficiency_benchmarks/ https://www.reddit.com/r/macapps/comments/12n7162/part_3_fin... but it ends up being very user-workload-specific. Every webpage is different - e.x. Pintrest may be more battery efficient on Safari, but if I never go there, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. For my workflow, Safari and Chrome seem about the same, Firefox seems to land me 10-20% lower on battery after 4 hours or so of use. Unfortunately, I don't have any more scientific data than that.
  • vr46 2y ago
    Ad-blocking, etc, are too important to me personally to delegate to just an extension, hence I use NextDNS, but naturally it can’t manipulate the DOM to tidy up the page. Luckily I have long-preferred Firefox but I recognize that it’s not for everyone, or hardly anyone for that matter. Maybe a local pi-hole would do the job properly.
    • bazmattaz 2y ago
      DNS solutions like PiHole don’t work for YT ads because those ads are served from the same domain as YT.
• janalsncm 2y ago
  I have been using Arc browser intermittently for a while and like it. I mainly use Chrome. I am a pragmatist rather than a purist, but if I start seeing ads in Chrome I will migrate everything and uninstall it.
• theLegionWithin 2y ago
  pihole + adblocker apps and you'll basically never see ads - there's a YouTube specific one I like - rethink (phone) - adguard (computer) ublock was nice but there are more comprehensive solutions
• jerrygoyal 2y ago
  I've switched to Vivaldi. Most productive browser so far.
• ArtDev 2y ago
  I already stopped using Chrome about 6 months ago, for this very reason. Firefox works great and it was really easy to migrate and not look back. ChromeOS also went downhill. I am slowly migrating older family devices over to Lubuntu or maybe another lightweight distro. Google needs Chrome and Android freed from their sticky fingers.
• dcreater 2y ago
  This is nothing but the best of news. People will finally leave the Chrome trap
• Gud 2y ago
  When will you upgrade away from a Google controlled operating system? Your wife deserves better.
• madjam002 2y ago
  Are there any OSS Chromium based browsers that don’t have crypto and VPN bloatware that people recommend?
• 01jonny01 2y ago
  Yes it's because uBlock works best with manifest v2 and Chrome now requires v3. You can use skipvids.com for youtube
• caseyy 2y ago
  Does this phenomenon have a name — things get progressively worse but people find ways to make do in the short term, and are relatively content with the state of affairs; then the ways to make do break under continued pressure, and people are worse off than if they didn’t make do and fight the worsening conditions initially? In this case, it’s the enshittification of the internet — a technological wonder exploited, commodified and destroyed for commercial gain. A network built for science and then for human connection, turned into a cesspit of corporate spyware, addiction, and behavior manipulation. If we rejected this earlier, we would all be better off — less spied on, less addicted, less manipulated, probably more connected and happier. But we found ways to make do like ad blockers that have grown into essential privacy protectors. That will now gradually stop working. But it’s a broader phenomenon. It can be seen in tech, healthcare, politics, economics climate change, corporate management — everywhere. It’s like a proverbial cousin of the boiling frog. In this case, the frog is aware of slowly boiling water and makes itself content by temporary means. Then, of course, it boils, but rather suddenly and painfully compared to the usual boiling frog tale.
  • asdff 2y ago
    It has something to do with basic american arrogance. E.g. many western cities americans came to and saw the mexican populations living on the hills instead of on the flats. What fools, the americans thought, until inevitably for most of these towns they experienced some 100 year deluge that absolutely wiped out stick frame mainstreet while those foolish homes upland were untouched. This pattern would continue for some towns in the american west until the army corps of engineers channelized local waterways to force the main street on the lowland location to work… right up until we finally got storms that exceeded even those flood water estimates. The hubris of the American is rather unique thanks to some of the Manifest Destiny tenets that still persist in our culture to this day.
• cmacleod4 2y ago
  Time for a reminder that pretty good ad-blocking can be done with no software at all, just a customised hosts file - https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts :-)
• lofaszvanitt 2y ago
  Time to extend the browser without google...
• fsmv 2y ago
  Just install ublock lite and continue on with the same experience as before
• greentxt 2y ago
  Edge to msft
• Suppafly 2y ago
  I don't know if they actually broke it yet, you can click through a bunch of options and re-enable it still.
• terrycody 2y ago
  I think you can find the plugin and click "fix", and you can still use it, I was in same boat, and using it now, no idea what happened though...
• danny28 2y ago
  use brave
• doydoypeas 2y ago
  hi
• doydoycheese 2y ago
  hi