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Relativty: An open-source VR headset for $200
- jckahn 2y agoThe name of this product is infuriating.
- pteraspidomorph 2y agoOh boy, I didn't even notice until I read your comment!
- garyfirestorm 2y agoNvm I see it now Why is that? I don’t see any problems with this particular name. Valve index and oculus rift aren’t that amazing either.
- LorenDB 2y agoThe name is Relativty, which is one 'i' off from the normal spelling of relativity.
- esafak 2y agoIt's more searchable?
- internet101010 2y agoNo, it will just get auto-corrected. Removing a letter from a word as a brand name is dumb; it is no different than parents naming their kid a normal name with stupid spelling and thinking they are original/creative.
- datashaman 2y agoPut quotes around brand names. https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Relativty%22 https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Relativty%22
- alluro2 2y ago"RelativityVR" or similar would arguably be equally good for search, clearer purpose/context from the get-go, and much easier to communicate, vs " 'Relativity', but without second 'I' " ...
- Kototama 2y agoIt's even more confusing for non native speakers.
- nashashmi 2y agoI feel like the future would declare monitors to be old technology. And everyone will migrate to eye mount displays.
- Zamiel_Snawley 2y agoThat’s kind of my dream for programming actually. A belt-mounted split keyboard on my thighs, and limitless screen space in a serene setting provided by VR. Won’t need a standing desk at all!
- grugagag 2y agoSounds dystopic to me. I don’t always look at the display when typing. Having no way to look away is visual prison to me.
- Zamiel_Snawley 2y agoEdit: I now realize that it is actually relativty, without the second ‘I’ The relativity.com domain could not have been cheap, even if leased. I’m surprised they are making a new brand, “Unai”/unison.co, instead of continuing with Relativity.
- jsheard 2y agoFrom the GitHub this is only capable of 3DoF tracking, which puts it in the same category as the defunct Oculus Go headset, or Google Cardboard. 6DoF is really the bare minimum to qualify as proper VR nowadays. For the uninitiated 3DoF means the headset only tracks the rotation of your head, not your heads absolute position as you move around, while 6DoF tracking does both. 6DoF is also much harder to implement.
- aziaziazi 2y agoNever understood why my GCardboard couldn’t do that, my phone sure has a bunch of accelerometers and giros. Sure higher and other techs can track better but isn’t it enough for a basic sense of mouvement? For most of the applications I won’t more than a few meter anyway. Probably some have tried and I’ll be curious to know what prevent it.
- jsheard 2y agoThe problem with accelerometers and gyros is they drift badly if you try to derive absolute positioning from them alone. They need to be fused with some other form of tracking to anchor them in absolute space, which in the case of the Quest and Vision Pro is done with multiple outward-facing cameras fed into a SLAM algorithm. Maybe Cardboard could have attempted to use the phones camera for SLAM, but a single lens would only have got them so far. Dedicated VR headsets have at least four cameras pointing in different directions, which are sometimes augmented by IR projectors and/or LiDAR.
- bee_rider 2y agoMost phones have a couple cameras nowadays… I think the Pro iPhones (some, at least) even have some sort of lidar system that seems like it ought to be helpful? Anyway, it is a shame, I guess the market must not have been there.
- Joel_Mckay 2y agoMost phones use a rolling shutter, so doing machine vision for low-latency motion/pose is difficult or unfeasible on a mobile cpu. Best regards =3
- DarkmSparks 2y agoprobably better buying a psvr for $150... Great quality headset with solid linux support. love to see more quest 3s hacking tho ($270)
- paxys 2y agoIt isn't a $200 headset. It's a headset you have to build yourself (including 3D printing and soldering) with $200 worth of parts. Huge difference between the two.
- nicce 2y agoIt depends. Do you have paid extra work for the time you would use on building this?
- KPGv2 2y agoEveryone who is capable of building this thing has the option to take on paid extra work doing /something/, even if it's tutoring rich college brats in calculus at $50/hr.
- nicce 2y agoI wish that would be the case.
- bornfreddy 2y agoMore importantly, I fail to see why I would want to do that? I prefer tinkering with this headset for free.
- manfre 2y agoAll of our time has a value.
- nicce 2y agoThat is true. But only specific kind of time can be used on acquiring the desired VR headset with specific time/value ratio.
- ctm92 2y agoIf you put value on your own time, then everything you build yourself is way more expensive than a product off the shelf. It's about the fun of building it and being able to modify it to your needs.
- andrewmcwatters 2y agoIt's too expensive. The Meta Quest 3S is $300.
- nicce 2y agoIs it possible to use it these days without Facebook account.
- paxys 2y agoCan you use any device these days without creating an online account?
- nicce 2y agoMy monitor does not require online account yet - I don’t see why my VR classes should either.
- paxys 2y agoQuest headsets aren't monitors and don't get their input from a computer. They are standalone devices with a consumer OS and app store, much like your PC or smartphone.
- nicce 2y agoI wonder how it is then mentioned in this context. It is not comparable at all.
- cesarb 2y ago> > My monitor does not require online account yet - I don’t see why my VR classes should either. > They are standalone devices with a consumer OS and app store, much like your PC or smartphone. My PC does not require online account yet - I don't see why my VR glasses should either.
- procone 2y ago
- webprofusion 2y agoThis was 4 years ago. The team has now become https://unison.co/ https://unison.co/
- gpm 2y agoFounded 2021, part of YC in 2022, any news on how the product is shaping up?
- interstice 2y agoClicking through the parts list, somewhat wildly <10cm inch 2k displays appear to be available for <$50 now. After a quick look I can't find much north of that in terms of resolution, but surely there has to be _something_ between this and the SOTA 4k+ displays going in high end headsets. If those exist then the last major barrier I can think of to DIY is the magic lenses required to make those screens viable when <50mm from an eyeball.
- LarsDu88 2y agoThat company name is not easy to remember how to spell. This will be nice for Maker projects, but I don't see it getting traction without 6DOF
- accrual 2y agoDefeat the Index in some metric and get support from VRChat and I'm in 8)
- a2128 2y agoWell it has no controllers nor any controller tracking hardware, so you won't be playing much VRChat with it...
- dang 2y agoRelated. Others? Relativty – An open-source VR headset - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24431052 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24431052 - Sept 2020 (222 comments) Relativ – A VR headset that you can build yourself for $100 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16195055 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16195055 - Jan 2018 (84 comments)
- Animats 2y agoHere's an overview of current VR hardware.[1] This is by Phia, who is a VR native. She's been trying everything in VR since she was a teenager. The most recent advance is Bigscreen.[2] Wired headset display, weighs 127 grams, good screens and optics, about US$1000. We're starting to see the end of the brick you wear on your head era. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DomfNq0vNCk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DomfNq0vNCk [2] https://www.bigscreenvr.com/ https://www.bigscreenvr.com/
- topato 2y agoCalling a person "VR native" is perhaps the worst thing ever said. I think "addicted to VR Chat" would be a more apt phrasing.
- solanav 2y agoCalling a person "computer/internet/phone native" is perhaps the worst thing ever said. I think "addicted computers/the internet/phones" would be a more apt phrasing. Sure thing grandpa!
- vel0city 2y ago> I think "addicted computers/the internet/phones" would be a more apt phrasing I mean yeah, I totally agree with "addicted to computers/the internet/phones" as a problem facing a lot of people and should probably be the proper term instead of "internet native". They were born in meatspace not in VR. Somoene who spends the majority of their waking hours in Call of Duty or World of Warcraft to the detriment of their real lives aren't CoD or WoW natives; they have a videogame addiction.
- Animats 2y agoShe grew up with VR, and is comfortable moving around in VR gear. Most people in later life cannot do that.
- plagiarist 2y agoI would like to try the Bigscreen but I am far too much of a curmudgeon to send them a scan of my face.
- lastdong 2y agoThis project is an awesome way to dive into building your very own VR headset! While it's not the cheapest option out there, it's definitely not too pricey, and the hands-on learning experience you'll gain makes it totally worth it. I can totally see high school or college classes, as well as hardware clubs, taking this on as a fun side project that will really engage students. Any other websites with open source hardware projects out there?
- amelius 2y agoWhere do you buy the lenses?
- PaulHoule 2y ago"We started Relativty because after watching Sword Art Online we wanted to make our own VR games."
- bastloing 2y agoThese things make me sick. Can't wait for that to get solved.
- mclightning 2y agobuilt something like this around 10 years ago, went viral for a while, it didn't last long.
- bArray 2y agoI see they are building out a company around this [1], where there is an investors section. Biggest advice to this team is to get there quickly. Half the people in this comments section would bite your hand off for your product as is. [1] https://unison.co/ https://unison.co/
- alfiedotwtf 2y agoThat was so weird… “We are building virtual reality” Wow cool, tell me more “Here’s a webpage that reads like a prospectus” But what about the glasses? “Want to see our cap table?”
- dTal 2y ago"We'll discuss content generation in part three." https://xkcd.com/741/ https://xkcd.com/741/