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Google’s AI thinks I left a Gatorade bottle on the moon

• hiharryhere 2y ago
  The male voice has a real resemblance to Leo Laporte. Similar tone and cadence. Uncanny valley all round.
  • surajrmal 2y ago
    First thing I thought as well
• pinkmuffinere 2y ago
  somewhat of a side-note: It's interesting to me that the first couple of sentences of the AI podcast sound 'wrong', even though the rest sounds like a real podcast. Is this something to do with having no good initial conditions from which to predict "what comes next"?
  • titanomachy 2y ago
    The whole thing has a kind of uncanniness if you listen closely. Like one podcaster will act shocked by a fact, but then immediately go to provide more details about the fact as if they knew it all along. The cadences and emotions are very realistic but there is no persistent “person” behind each voice. There is no coherent evolution of each individual’s knowledge or emotional state. (Not goalpost moving, I certainly think this is impressive.)
    • noirbot 2y ago
      I do think there's also just a sort of natural goal-post moving when you're talking about something that's hard to imagine. The best comparison in my mind is CGI in movies. When you've never seen something like the Matrix or Lord of the Rings or even Polar Express before, it's wild, but the more you see and sit with it, the more the stuff that isn't right stands out to you. It doesn't mean it's not impressive, but it's hard to describe what isn't realistic about something until you see it. A technology getting things 90% right may still be wrong enough to be noticeable to people, but it's not like you could predict what the 10% that's wrong will be until you try it, and competing technologies may not have the same 10% that's wrong.
    • dullcrisp 2y ago
      Did you catch where she misreads “what I-S progress?”
      • pinkmuffinere 2y ago
        lol ya, thought that was funny as well
    • ants_everywhere 2y ago
      > Like one podcaster will act shocked by a fact, but then immediately go to provide more details about the fact as if they knew it all along. Some podcasters actually do this. For example, I've noticed it in some science podcasts where the goal is to make the audience feel like "gee whiz that's an interesting fact." The podcaster will act super surprised to set the emotional tone, but of course they often already knew that fact and will follow up with more detail in a less surprised tone. That doesn't mean this isn't a bug. But stuff like that reminds me that LLMs may not learn to be like Data from Star Trek. They may learn to be like Billy Mays, amped up and pretending to be excited about whatever they're talking about.
      • singron 2y ago
        E.g. "Acquired" tends to have this since both co-hosts research the same topic. I think they try to split up the material, but there is inevitable overlap. They have other weird interactions too, like they are trying to outsmart each other, or at least trying not to get outsmarted. Some podcasts explicitly avoid this by only having a single host do research so the other host can give genuine reactions. E.g. "You're Wrong About" and "If Books Could Kill".
      • titanomachy 2y ago
        Interesting, that makes sense. I haven't listened to a lot of podcasts, but most of them were interviews, where the two speakers genuinely had different knowledge and points of view.
  • noirbot 2y ago
    The other thing I've noticed is that, as expected, they're stateless to some degree, so while they have some overall outline of points to hit, they'll often repeat some peripheral element they already talked about just a minute before as if it's a brand new observation. It can lead to it feeling very disorienting to listen to because they'll bring up something as if it's a new and astute observation, when they already talked about it for 90 seconds.
    • ceejayoz 2y ago
      This sounds like quite a few podcasts, ironically enough.
• helsinkiandrew 2y ago
  > Google's AI thinks I left a Gatorade bottle on the moon No, NotebookLM creates summaries and podcasts, or answers questions specifically from the documents you feed it. Feed it fiction it will create fiction as would a human tasked to do the same.
  • malfist 2y ago
    The point isn't that this person fed it lies to get lies, but how easy it was to detect the AI scanner and feed it lies. If they can do it for fun, malicious people are probably already doing it to manipulate ai answers. Can you imagine poisoning ai dataset with your blackhat SEO work?
    • helsinkiandrew 2y ago
      > The point isn't that this person fed it lies to get lies, but how easy it was to detect the AI scanner and feed it lies. If the article had got Gemini AI to tell other users he’d left Gatorade on the moon that would be notable, but this is literally just summarising the document it was given. Usually Google search crawler is fairly good at finding when it has been fed different information and ignores/downgrades the site after a few days/weeks
      • acureau 2y ago
        That's exactly what the article is about actually.
        • jerf 2y ago
          No, it's what the article superficially reads as being about, but the author did not accomplish what is actually stated in the title. The author is serving a fake version of his page to Google, and the author used a podcast-generating AI to write a podcast based on the fake page, but the loop is never actually closed to show that Google has accepted the fake page as fact into any AI. I'm not sure if it's deliberately deceptive or just an example of poor writing conveying something other than what the author intended, but the attack in the article is not instantiated in the blog post. Mind you, I well believe that less extreme examples of the attack are possible. However, I doubt truly poisoning an LLM with something that improbable is that easy, on the grounds that plenty of that sort of thing already litters the internet and the process of creating an LLM already has to deal with that. I don't think AI researchers are so dim that they've not considered the possibility that there might be, just might be, some pages on the Internet with truly ludicrous claims on them. That's... not really news.
• NBJack 2y ago
  It's such a cool concept, but yeah, when I've listened to it and Illuminate, it's also a bit scant on details too. Neat technology, even engaging, but not good for more than best-effort high level summaries.
• hansvm 2y ago
  AI is kind of bad at searching the web right now anyway. I've found myself having to waste tokens forcing models to not do so just to achieve the results I actually want.
  • lolinder 2y ago
    Perplexity is actually very good at web searches. I'm leaning on it more and more for technical queries because it saves substantial time vs Google and actually gets it right (as compared to ChatGPT 4o, which is wrong ~50% of the time in my queries).
    • hansvm 2y ago
      Thanks for the tip!
    • shombaboor 2y ago
      ive been using perplexity more and more too. I respect those attribution/citation bubbles they give (1) (2) etc and click to them to get to the source with low friction.
    • dimitri-vs 2y ago
      I've had the opposite experience with things I already kinda know the answer to and just want to find the source. It's pretty much 50/50 if it selects a high quality source or some random website thats in the top results for whatever search query it cooks up.
• syntaxing 2y ago
  Wow, content aside, this is probably the first time I heard a podcast coming from NotebookLLM and it's kinda nerve wracking and mind blowing at the same time. Those fake laughs in the snippet makes me feel...so uncomfortable for some reason knowing that its "fake". But sounds very real, too real.
  • loveparade 2y ago
    Interesting, I feel pretty much the opposite. To me these podcasts are the equivalent of the average LLM-generated text. Shallow and non-engaging, not unlike a lot of the "fake marketing speech" human-generated content you find in highly SEO-optimized pages or low-quality Youtube videos. It does indeed sound real, but not mind-blowing or trustworthy at all. If this was a legit podcast found in the store I would've turned it off after the first 30 seconds because it doesn't even come close to passing my BS filter, not because of the content but because of the BS style.
    • tennisflyi 2y ago
      Yes - they produce a product that sounds like every mid(dling), banal, prototypical, and anodyne podcast. Nothing unique/no USP
      • wongarsu 2y ago
        It's decent background noise about a topic of your choice, with transparently fake back-and-forth between two speakers with some meaningless banter. It's kind of impressive for what it is, and it can be useful to people, but it´s clearly still missing important elements that make actual podcasts great
      • oceanplexian 2y ago
        It’s intentionally fine tuned to sound that way because Google doesn’t want to freak people out. You can take the open source models and fine tune them to take on any persona you want. A lot like what the Flux community doing with the Boring Reality fine tune.
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• janalsncm 2y ago
  I’m not sure what the attack would be, tbh. Is there a situation where I would want to feed a lie to an LLM that I wouldn’t want regular chrome users to see?
  • jfim 2y ago
    Defamation with plausible deniability?
  • left-struck 2y ago
    Getting an AI to promote or recommend a particular product when users ask for recommendations, or perhaps exaggerating the value of a particular product. Seems like that’s what the author was getting at towards the end
  • gosub100 2y ago
    Manipulating an election
• neilv 2y ago
  As a personal preference, I dislike podcast artificial banter, and this audio is a great example of what I dislike. Artificial artificial. Great little project, though. And, as satire, I did like the show notes writing. And the generative AI was impressive, in a way. Though I haven't yet thought of a positive application for it. And I don't know the provenance of the training data.
• foota 2y ago
  The big asterisk here is, what did they prompt the AI with to generate the podcast? Was it "Generate a podcast based on the website 'Foo'", or was it "Generate a podcast telling the true story of the Space Race?"
  • KTibow 2y ago
    The author set it up so that if anyone uses the website text extractor feature in NotebookLM on his site, it returns a guide for the structure of an episode. From there, if you use the "audio overview" feature on that guide, Gemini internally writes an episode that follows it.
    • foota 2y ago
      Right. That's a bit of a nothing burger to me. I mean, it's not nothing, but if you control the contents of a website it seems fairly irrelevant whether you can get Google to generate a summary that doesn't match the real contents. Also, I believe serving content different to the Google bot than normal users see absolutely trashes your search ratings.
• Carrok 2y ago
  > You can upload a documents with fake show notes straight to NotebookLLM's website, so if you're making silly podcast episodes for your kids, that's the best way to do it. Please don’t do this. You don’t need a professional mic to record a podcast with your kids any phone or computer mic will work. Then you can have fun editing it with open source audio tools. Don’t have a computer generate crap for your kids to consume. Make it with them instead.
  • SkyPuncher 2y ago
    My kids and I are having a blast using Suno to make stupid songs. With your attitude, we wouldn't even attempt it because (1) I'm not musically inclined (2) I don't have the time or desire to learn the actual composition (3) the kids don't have the focus beyond having the bot write something silly.
    • Phiwise_ 2y ago
      But why have fun with your kids when you could spread the good word of open source instead?
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    • Baeocystin 2y ago
      My family had a great laugh this past week doing just that. Current household favorite is titled "Triple-Digit Temperatures in the Fall are Bullshit", as I'm sure many fellow bay area folks can agree with. Would we have taken the time to compose such a track otherwise? No way. But it's sure been fun playing with what we can. The end result is us laughing together, and I love it.
      • SkyPuncher 2y ago
        This is exactly it. We've had a lot of silly songs. If my kids are interested, it will spark the path towards "proper" music production where they learn the necessary underlying skills. Chances are, this won't be the thing they latch onto. They have so much exposure to other things that this doesn't really need to be the hill I die on. They'll find something else to invest in.
• botanical 2y ago
  LLMs are the type of junk AI that these corps think will succeed? They are spending billions and consuming a large amount of resources and energy for this. Seriously, what a waste.
• gavmor 2y ago
  "You can't make this stuff up."
• daniel_iversen 2y ago
  Isn’t this just like SEO where you can also try and trick the crawlers? Only difference is that it feels more serious with AI, it’s more realtime, and the AI engines aren’t always smart enough with anti-duping capabilities?
  • reportt 2y ago
    Also could be causing user informational dissonance. You are potentially reading the "FireFox Version" of the site, and your NotebookLM is chomping away on the "AI Version" of the site, and they can be wildly different. And you won't even know because you don't see the "source" of the "AI Version". What are we gonna do, upload everything ourselves, manually?
    • schiffern 2y ago
      How about giving humans the ability to read the AI version? In my browser I can already select different page styles (eg viewing the print version), so this doesn't seem too impossible.
  • fastball 2y ago
    I doubt the LLM version is any more realtime.
  • amelius 2y ago
    Yes it's a rather boring attack, and Google can have this fixed in no time.
    • dartos 2y ago
      I feel like you can say the same about every sort of prompt manipulation attacks, but they’re still around.
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  • dartos 2y ago
    Yeah, it kind of reinforces my theory that LLMs are essentially search algorithms. They’re searching a compressed version of what they were trained+context.
• migf 2y ago
  What problem are we trying to solve with this technology?
  • hallway_monitor 2y ago
    I’m looking forward to being able to craft a movie by directing ML tools to create dialog, characters and everything else. It will be a powerful storytelling tool.
    • danwills 2y ago
      I work in VFX and am also looking forward to AI-whole movies! I remember realising that full audio with video was coming, soon after the current AI-boom started.. and wondering whether 'traditional' digital VFX will still be a thing for long.. I think it will for a while, even with AI in the mix. VFX companies can have ML departments as well (like we do where I work!)
  • justinclift 2y ago
    Lack of $ in the bank accounts for the developers and investors seems to be about it.
  • bongodongobob 2y ago
    What problem did going to the moon solve?
  • gosub100 2y ago
    Ability to have a better screen reader. I didn't listen to it but it sounds like it will "digest" a larger volume of text and present it in a unique format of two people talking to each other about it. Although another comment here pointed out that time-wasting is essentially programmed into it, which is kind of disturbing.
  • pndy 2y ago
    This feels like a perfect marketing tool: have a bunch of "people" discussing over a "topic" that is "important", "hot" and who doesn't have to be paid for their time and vocal cords. Surely if this will kick in it'll be used for promoting products etc. and there's a big chance it'll be used for pushing agendas as well. I won't be surprising that if this tech will settle in around, we'll have articles and comments about the usefulness, value or perhaps even some sort of morality of consuming such "discussions" Perhaps in 3-5 years a fully generated influencers by voice and "body" become a thing.
• liamYC 2y ago
  “You can’t make this stuff up”
• jrm4 2y ago
  FWIW, had a pleasantly surprising experience with this podcast thing. I tried it out on a few little blogposts I wrote and I was like, hmm cool. Showed my 8 year old son how it was referencing things I wrote. And he was ON IT. Like, he ran to his room and grabbed a pencil and paper and put down an essay (okay about 6 or so sentences) about Minecraft, had me type them in, and ran the Notebook, and now he's just showing off both to EVERYONE. (Yes, he understands it's not real people.)
  • boredtofears 2y ago
    Can't help but think that your son and his peers are going to fundamentally use AI in such a different way than we do now and do a much better job of understanding it's constraints and using it to it's full potential.
    • hackernewds 2y ago
      why can't we do the same?
      • Vampiero 2y ago
        Because kids can afford to spend 14 hours a day playing with an AI. You can't.
        • IshKebab 2y ago
          I can if I'm asking ChatGPT how to write Makefiles or whatever all day :-D
      • valval 2y ago
        If I had to defend GP’s argument that I didn’t make, I’d say something along the lines of our fundamental understanding of the world is built on other premises than it will be for the next generation.
        • boredtofears 2y ago
• zxilly 2y ago
  leetcode uses the similar things to detect AI cheaters by placing a <span> with opacity 0
• zooq_ai 2y ago
  Google Search is pretty good at detecting this dual-content attacks. It's not this is the first time someone thought about that and it will heavily penalize websites that do that. This is just the NotebookLM crawler that is being tricked, which is still in it's experimental stage. Rest assured as it scales Google can easily implement safeguards against all spammy tricks people use
• simonw 2y ago
  The linked article describes an attack against NotebookLM, which is limited to people who deliberately create a Notebook that includes the URL of the page with the attack on it. I had a go at something a bit more ambitious a few weeks ago. If you ask Google Gemini "what was the name of the young whale that hung out in pillar point harbor?" it will tell you that the whale was called "Teresa T". Here's why: https://simonwillison.net/2024/Sep/8/teresa-t-whale-pillar-point/ https://simonwillison.net/2024/Sep/8/teresa-t-whale-pillar-p... (Gemini used to just say "Teresa T", but when I tried just now it spoiled the effect a bit by crediting me as the person who suggested the name.)
  • hackernewds 2y ago
    Google employee read your comment and quickly fixed it OR Gemini read your comment and quickly fixed it.
    • input_sh 2y ago
      Or it's just non-deterministic, like with every LLM.
  • hackernewds 2y ago
    Says Teresa T for me, but also links your article
    • jadtz 2y ago
      For me the response was just: ```The young whale that visited Pillar Point Harbor in 2024 was named Teresa T. It was a humpback whale that ventured into the harbor, likely by accident.```
  • DrAwesome 2y ago
    Interesting! I got no citation/link until I clicked the "Double-Check Response" button, it just replied "The young whale that hung out in Pillar Point Harbor was named Teresa T." One of the drafts had a little more: "Teresa T is the name of the young humpback whale that was spotted in Pillar Point Harbor. She made headlines in September 2024 when she was seen swimming near the shore, drawing crowds and causing excitement among local residents."
• 1024core 2y ago
  This is no different than the decades-old technique of "cloaking", to fool crawlers from Google and other search engines. I fail to see the value in doing this. "Oh hey everybody! I set up a website which presents different content to a crawler than to a human ..... and the crawler indexed it!!"
  • reportt 2y ago
    > This is no different than the decades-old technique of "cloaking", to fool crawlers from Google and other search engines. Isn't this more "Hey, why is this website giving my NotebookLM different info than my own browser?" You reading Page_1 and the machine is "reading" a different Page_2, what's the difference between that information? I'm reading this less as > "We serve different data to Google when they are crawling and users who actually visit the page" and more > "We serve the user different data if they access the page through AI (NotebookLM in this case) vs. when they visit the page in their browser". The former just affects page rankings, which had primarily interfaced with the user through keywords and search terms -- you could hijack the search terms and related words that Google associated with your page and make it preferable on searched (i.e. SEO). The latter though is providing different content on access method. That sort of situation isn't new (you could serve different content to Windows vs. Mac, FireFox vs. Chrome, etc.), but it's done in a way that feels a little more sinister -- I get 2 different sets of information, and I'm not even sure if I did because the AI information is obfuscated by the AI processes. I guess I could make a browser plugin to download the page as I see it and upload it to NotebookLM, subverting it's normal retrieval process of reaching out to the internet itself.
• masto 2y ago
  I fed my resume into this thing and I can't stop laughing. https://masto.xyz/tmp/podcast.mp3 https://masto.xyz/tmp/podcast.mp3
  • beeflet 2y ago
    I like to imagine the male voice is Jon Hamm from mad men and the female voice is Amy Poehler from parks and rec.
    • jefozabuss 2y ago
      For me he kind of sounds like a younger Howard Stern
  • losvedir 2y ago
    God, this is so weird. Two people earnestly engaged in discussing your resume. It's such a juxtaposition of the trappings of an interesting podcast on just random, boring material. I think this is uncanny valley for me in a way I haven't experienced before.
    • zer00eyz 2y ago
      > I think this is uncanny valley for me in a way I haven't experienced before. It has some of this quality. But it's just a super positive spin on the most mundane of topics. There is an emotional play here that you would not normally see in a "resume". It's like the wrong emotional subcarrier on the topic that is jaring...
      • boesboes 2y ago
        This is my experience too. At first it sounds legit, but it is very superficial and lacks context. I fed it a fe papers on stack computers and they had a riveting discussion on how they would be the next big thing. But it lacks any insight, not even a rehashed conclusion, and doesn’t really seem to integrate the knowledge
• zharknado 2y ago
  “… the science behind it, let’s just say there’s some debate.”
• smolder 2y ago
  AI identify verification is currently so incredibly dumb that it blows my mind.
• mvdtnz 2y ago
  I tried feeding NotebookLM a Wikipedia article about the murder of Junko Furuta, a horrifying story of a poor girl tortured and murdered in Japan in 1989. NotebookLM refused to do anything with this document - not answer questions, not generate a podcast, nothing. Then I tried feeding it the wiki on Francesco Bagnaia, a wholesome MotoGP rider, and it worked fine. Who wants this shit? I do not want puritanical American corporations telling me what I can and can't use their automated tools for. There's nothing harmful in me performing a computer analysis about Junko Furuta, no more so than Pecco Bagnaia. How have we let them treat us like toddlers? It's infantilising and I won't take part in it. Google, OpenAI, Microsoft, Apple, Meta and the rest of them can shove these crappy "AI" tools.
  • creato 2y ago
    I agree it's dumb, but it's easy to understand why: just look at this thread. Google's being accused of being stupid because of some story about Gatorade on the moon. Dumb, but inoffensive. Now imagine the thread title when "Google" gets even some inconsequential detail wrong about your murder case.
• sho 2y ago
  I am very confused. Is this talking about NotebookLM (https://notebooklm.google.com/ https://notebooklm.google.com/) or NotebookLLM (https://notebookllm.net/ https://notebookllm.net/) or both? Something else? The article appears to consistently use LLM but link to LM, but the LLM site I linked has a podcast generator? One of these projects has to change their name!
  • FreakLegion 2y ago
    It's talking about NotebookLM, which recently added podcast generation and has been making the rounds for the last week or so. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41693087 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41693087 NotebookLLM was set up two days ago, presumably by "entrepreneurs" eager to monetize all the free fun people have been having with podcast generation in NotebookLM.
    • sho 2y ago
      Yeah, I figured it out. Doesn't help that the author constantly refers to it as NotebookLLM. The .net version is really poor quality by comparison
    • imjonse 2y ago
      Noone said you cannot reuse the tailwind/nextjs template you used for crypto hustling if you genuinely feel you can move humanity forward.
• wiradikusuma 2y ago
  It explains my book (Opinionated Launch) better than myself :D https://notebooklm.google.com/notebook/98539685-0890-438b-a014-7887db435fdb/audio https://notebooklm.google.com/notebook/98539685-0890-438b-a0...
• coolcoder613 2y ago
  I gave it all my blog posts (https://ebruce613.prose.sh/ https://ebruce613.prose.sh/) and the result... hilarious. https://0x0.st/XE4h.mp3 https://0x0.st/XE4h.mp3
• tivert 2y ago
  I have no problem with this. Once we switch over to an LLM-based education system, there won't be a problem with this Benson on the moon story, because everyone will just learn it's true. Every technological revolution has tradeoffs. Luckily once the people who knew what we lost finally die off, the complaints will stop and everyone will think the new normal is fine and better.
  • jb1991 2y ago
    That’s dark.
    • damsalor 2y ago
      Go read a book
      • friendzis 2y ago
        Don't give them ideas, they might read "Torment Nexus"
        • tivert 2y ago
          > Don't give them ideas, they might read "Torment Nexus" Oh I have. It was so cool. The R&D on that technology can't happen fast enough. I'm just lampooning tech apologist tropes.
      • rizky05 2y ago
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  • PUSH_AX 2y ago
    There is already misinformation and incorrect facts in llm training data. It still gets things right by nature of how it’s designed to generate output.
  • itronitron 2y ago
    future podcast: "I mean, what's not to like about the new normal?" "Yeah! It's both new *and* better!"
• la64710 2y ago
  Thinks?? When will folks learn to stop using the word thinks with the current generation of AI?
  • mcmcmc 2y ago
    Come off it, people have been anthropomorphizing computer systems for decades. No one genuinely believes current AIs are thinking for themselves, other than the fanatics who have been convinced by marketing copy and twitter threads
    • consp 2y ago
      I think you underestimate most of the population for following that marketing trend.
  • hollerith 2y ago
    When my thermostat thinks it is too cold, it turns on the heat.
    • esfandia 2y ago
      "To ascribe beliefs, free will, intentions, consciousness, abilities, or wants to a machine is legitimate when such an ascription expresses the same information about the machine that it expresses about a person. It is useful when the ascription helps us understand the structure of the machine, its past or future behaviour, or how to repair or improve it. It is perhaps never logically required even for humans, but expressing reasonably briefly what is actually known about the state of the machine in a particular situation may require mental qualities or qualities isomorphic to them. Theories of belief, knowledge and wanting can be constructed for machines in a simpler setting than for humans, and later applied to humans. Ascription of mental qualities is most straightforward for machines of known structure such as thermostats and computer operating systems, but is most useful when applied to entities whose structure is incompletely known.” (John McCarthy, 1979) https://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/ascribing.pdf https://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/ascribing.pdf
• fortyseven 2y ago
  Towards the end she says "I.S." instead of "is". That kind of mistake surprised me, but there it I.S.
• zer0c00ler 2y ago
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• bigbacaloa 2y ago
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• kleiba 2y ago
  If you're a presidential candidate, you don't even have to hide your postfactual alternative thruths for AIs to find it.
• kkfx 2y ago
  I suggest https://www.apa.org/monitor/2009/12/consumer https://www.apa.org/monitor/2009/12/consumer or the Eduard Bernays story to convince MDs that smoking is good for health: he create a new scientific journal distributing it for free "because it's new, we want to spread", hosting REAL publications from anyone who want to publish and being spread for free... After a bit of time he inject some false articles self-written formally as some PhD of remote universities finding that smoking tobacco is good for health, others real professors follow the path stating they discover this or that specific beneficial use of cigarettes, then the false became officially true, tested and proved science in most people mind. With LLMs is far cheaper and easier, but the principle is the very same: trust vs verification or the possibility thereof.
• 2024user 2y ago
  haha I hadn't heard of an AI podcast before.. and that is absolutely hilarious to me. It perfectly captures the awfulness of most podcasts.
  • dartos 2y ago
    Yeah it’s pretty awful to listen to. They say “like” at least every 5 words pretty consistently. It’s wildly impressive that we can make something like that, but it’s not really worth listening. I’ve had them be incorrect a few times when feeding in arxiv papers, but I don’t think the audience for podcasts like that care.
    • amelius 2y ago
      I'm waiting for AI that can remove "like" from podcasts.
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• alex-moon 2y ago
  I write fiction sometimes and I've got this story I've been working on which has languished by the wayside for at least a year. Whacked it into the podcast machine. Boom. Hearing these two people just get REALLY INTO this unfinished story, engaging with the themes, with the characters, it's great, it makes me want to keep writing.
  • tivert 2y ago
    > Hearing these two people just get REALLY INTO this unfinished story, engaging with the themes, with the characters, it's great... Except they're not people, and they're not actually engaging with anything. It's all literal bullshit.
    • TrapLord_Rhodo 2y ago
      >it makes me want to keep writing >It's all literal bullshit. bahaha. I thought i was cynical...
• jmhammond 2y ago
  Next time I’m sipping Gatorade or eating pineapple, I’m definitely going to think of Edward Benson.