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Cosmic: A New Desktop Environment
- gedy 2y agoOne cool feature that I didn’t see described very well here is Cosmic allows you to group windows in tabs, but the tabs can be different applications. Kind of an interesting idea that the OS/window manager is what should be responsible for tab support, not each application.
- seaal 2y agoStacking is fantastic feature but it's not unique to Cosmic as the current DE for Pop_OS already has this feature. Also available on Windows with FancyWM, which has been growing on me.
- mariusor 2y agoAlso available for KWin since a very long time (at least a decade).
- alxlaz 2y agoSeveral Linux WMs and DEs had this feature a long time ago, when screen space was kind of at a premium. Fluxbox had it for as long as I can remember it. KDE used to have it at some point in its 3.x or 4.x-series releases, I don't recall which one.
- n3storm 2y agoI would love to see this in xfwm4
- mananaysiempre 2y agoOriginally from BeOS, I believe. (Thus the funky BeOS window shape. Still quite difficult to discover.)
- rzzzt 2y agoYou could drag the short title bar with a modifier key to move it from the leftmost position, and non-overlapping title bars would snap together to form tabs.
- gedy 2y agoI've been running PopOS, but don't see it - the Super+S stack shortcuts don't seem to be available unless I'm missing something.
- nutrie 2y agoI think it doesn't work unless you're in the tiling mode. You can also drag one one window into another window.
- worldsayshi 2y agoI like the idea but I also get reminded of the way the edge browser turns each tab into its own unit in the alt-tab switcher. That feels quite annoying. There are a number of UX conventions, like tabs and tiles that often get replicated across both OS level and across different apps and they get slightly different key combos and interaction details. It would be interesting if those conventions could be moved to the window manager layer instead. But then there are probably a bunch of interesting edge cases that needs solutions. Like should the file tree navigator of the ide exist in a separate WM-tile than the editor tiles? And if the file navigation spawns an editor, where should it appear? Etc...
- the_duke 2y agoi3 , the tiling window manager, has had this for many years.
- msephton 2y agoThis reminds me of a discussion on Twitter about this. Macintosh System 7 that had an app called Stapler, early Mac OS X had one called LaunchList both contained aliases to apps and documents. So I see the benefit of the OS managing this grouping.
- jacknews 2y ago"Kind of an interesting idea that the OS/window manager is what should be responsible for tab support, not each application." I agree completely, and even popup menus, sidebars and other sections of apps could/should be handled above/outside the app, for consistency, flexibility, etc.
- mvkel 2y agoIt sounds like the differentiator here is that it's modular for the purposes of creating unique branded experiences. Is this in effect to position it as an Android alternative for applications in things like cars, etc?
- BoredPositron 2y agoMost car guis are QT based so I guess not.
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- ndiddy 2y agoThey're bringing up customization because a contributing factor to System76 deciding to make their own DE rather than continuing to work with the GNOME developers was a difference of opinions on the amount of customization/branding that a distribution could add to GNOME.
- wilsonnb3 2y agoI think it is just intended for distro maintainers to help differentiate their distros. Like how endeavourOS uses purple rather than the default KDE colors.
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- exe34 2y agoI gave up entirely and went with xmonad and no decorations, panels or anything at all.
- wilsonnb3 2y agoEh things are pretty good these days with gnome and kde, I don't think there would be much to gain with further consolidation of effort.
- allenbina 2y agofor what it's worth, I've when gnome moved from version 2, I was completely lost. I went to xfce for a while then settled on kde for a long time but when I reformatted a machine to have to the side of my work laptop, I used pop_os just to test it out. It is on par with ubuntu as being a complete cohesive operating system. I'm excited to see where they take it and without knowing much about them, I'm a supporter.
- micahdeath 2y agoThat's an easy one. You do it wrong, let me show you how it's done. <-- The concept I mean. It's easier to branch or create your own project instead of finding middle ground.
- mariusor 2y agoOf course, because the linux community is a unified body with the exact same needs and wants across it.
- Pfhortune 2y agoI disagree. The beauty of open source is that many philosophies have room to prosper. The Linux ecosystem is not the Apple ecosystem.
- troyvit 2y ago
- ChrisArchitect 2y agoTitle: is it new though?
- taeric 2y agoThey released their first alpha build today.
- dilap 2y agoLooks like generic-brand macOS. All that work but that can't find anyone to give it a distinctive look?
- breakfastduck 2y agoIt actually looks 1000% worse than generic-brand macOS. None of the copycats get anywhere near the quality.
- culebron21 2y agoI see a slightly restyled Mate desktop environment. Nothing really new, some marginal advantage like a tiny bit more visible window focus. Scrollbars still invisible. Buttons even harder to distinguish from not-buttons, and not clear how a disabled button can look when everything is so graywashed. Generally, looks like another designers take on style, not usability.
- teekert 2y agoIf it's a fast, Rust written, modern, Wayland native DE with quarter tiling I am already happy. Let it grow from there.
- Y_Y 2y agoMuch as those things sound nice, I feel like the GP in that a DE is very much a user-focused tool, knowing it has nice developer-friendly internals is a distant second to having a good interface.
- FireInsight 2y agoNice developer-friendly internals get more contributors and some of them might make interesting UX contributions.
- rjzzleep 2y agoCosmic has a huge opportunity to make a desktop toolkit that doesn't suck. With proper components that you need for modern applications. I tried reaching out to the team on LinkedIn, but I guess it just goes into the LinkedIn spam. If they can nail the component library on their rust framework, I believe Linux Desktop applications might finally take off. But so far it doesn't seem like I could catch their interested.
- culebron21 2y agoIf it's really a Rust ground-up new DE, it sounds promising.
- InsideOutSanta 2y ago
- criddell 2y agoAll of the Linux desktop environments feel like thin skins compared to what we had in the past. I keep hoping somebody will implement OS/2's Workplace Shell for Linux. Rexx would be nice too but I suspect most people would rather stick with a scripting language they already know. https://www.os2world.com/wiki/index.php/The_WorkPlace_Shell,_A_Powerful_Jewel_of_OS/2_and_eComStation._Part_1:_Some_Background https://www.os2world.com/wiki/index.php/The_WorkPlace_Shell,... https://komh.github.io/os2books/pdf/OS2_REXX.pdf https://komh.github.io/os2books/pdf/OS2_REXX.pdf
- katzinsky 2y agoPeople keep forgetting Wish still exists and many Open Source GUI apps are scriptable with guile. And the reality is that Linux desktop environments are skins. The widget toolkit is almost always a separate project. This is becoming even more pronounced with eg Wayland where the compositor just hands the client a surface to render its UI on and knows absolutely nothing about widgets or fonts (not that people have been seriously using those features of X11 for a while anyway.) And honestly this is preferable. It looks hideous but it's much more pleasant to use. CWM doesn't have many features but the few it does have (such as the regex window title search) I so dearly miss on much nicer looking UIs (like OSX on my work computer.)
- orbisvicis 2y ago> many Open Source GUI apps are scriptable with guile. What does this mean?
- martzy13 2y agoIs it possible to summarize what this is/was? I know I could RTFM but it's 336 pages, and the wiki didn't seem to shed any light on this for me.
- samstave 2y agoscreens only appear on page 120+ of the pdf - and its talking about the coding of the actual UI elements... Interesting history - but feed that to an LLM to grok - not a human (Sadly, some technical writer prolly almost committed suicide writing that by deadline) --- but my other points still stand on the stat of Desktop UX (Specifically experience) -- when it comes to re-envisioning the actal X part of a destop UI/UX -- so little vision is happening (it would seem -- Im sure there are a flurry of dark-web eastern EU Bulgarian Hackers (looking at you Ivo) that could pull off a better new idea given some attention from real TechBro Money)
- 999900000999 2y agoNeat, any word on getting this working on Arch. I use Majaro now and KDE is okay, but I'd like to try something new.
- marcus0x62 2y agohttps://wiki.archlinux.org/title/COSMIC https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/COSMIC
- BoredPositron 2y agoWhy even bother to comment if you don’t even click on the link. There is a whole section that answers your question…
- elaus 2y agoThere are links on how to install this on various distros right on the landing page (section "Try it out on your favorite distro!"). E.g. for Arch this leads to https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/COSMIC https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/COSMIC
- executesorder66 2y agoThere's literally a link right on TFA to the Arch Wiki on how to do exactly that. https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/COSMIC https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/COSMIC
- pmarreck 2y agoNixOS is the first Linux distro that I'd dare to swap out a new DE with. I've broken past installs (Arch, for sure) by trying to do this on other distros. Obviously, make a full backup (unless you're on NixOS, in which case, everything just gets rebuilt deterministically from a definition file in either direction, and all previous instances are saved, permitting trivial rollbacks)
- 999900000999 2y agoFortunes favors the bold! This isn't a work PC, I tried Cosmic and just got a black screen and switched back to KDE
- jklinger410 2y agoLooks great. I'm very happy that they are letting me get rid of their ugly brown UI. I might switch back to POP for this.
- bainganbharta 2y agoMight want to get an eye exam first.
- mwidell 2y agoLook at how the icons at the bottom have almost zero margin to the overly rounded sides. Why is it so hard for anyone outside of Apple to make a visually appealing GUI? It just requires a little bit of taste and sense of aesthetics. I am baffled that this hasn't happened yet. The closest thing so far is probably ElementaryOS.
- jklinger410 2y agoMy whole issue with the COSMIC thing has been that it seems to be designed by developers. Not designers. At every corner they make baffling choices. The speed and functionality are great. The design not so much. I'm hoping this UI matures and allows for customization so that I can get it where I want it.
- causal 2y agoYeah I think the HN crowd easily underestimates the amount of specialized talent and effort that goes into a good design. Much like good software, good design blends in so well that users don't realize how hard it was to make. Apple spends billions on design, even inventing many of the core paradigms that have since become foundational. Apple still frustrates me with a lot of their choices, but let's not pretend just anyone can match their design prowess.
- ibash 2y agoCare and craft. A lot of software engineers think that “done” means functional. And not “feels right”. That and unless a software engineer has specifically practiced implementing pixel perfect designs from a great designer, then they don’t spot the errors. The design will feel wrong but they don’t know why.
- pxc 2y ago'Pixel perfect' designs are stupid, qnd responsible for backwards steps in font scaling. GUIs should be reflowable, not 'pixel perfect'. Dumbass 'pixel perfect' designs are the reason you can't resize the fucking System Preferences window. They're also shitty for accessibility. If you're significantly visually impaired but still inclined to rely on your remaining vision, you'll find that (a) macOS doesn't let you jack the fonts up big enough and (b) when you actually do get large enough text just by jacking up the scale of the whole Ui, all kinds of text fields are truncated and some windows some even fit properly on your screen. Aligning UIs by pixel makes them worse.
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- max-throat 2y agoWhy rounded corners? Why a bookmarks bar at the bottom instead of a proper taskbar? Can we please stop copying MacOS? I bet it's going to do the "pop out when you hover the mouse near an edge" thing that MacOS does that I hate too.
- tracker1 2y agoThe corners are configurable, many people seem to prefer a dock over a toolbar, as to the edge, it does docking to the portion of the screen (half/quarter/third).
- WhereIsTheTruth 2y agoIt looks like Gnome, with the same CSD philosophy, wich is a bad sign This is what has ruined linux desktop to me
- Nevermark 2y ago[Posted different version under a now flagged comment] I would love a completely customizable desktop system. Be able to select different window arrangers, docks, etc., for each workspace. -- Thinking bigger, something useful would be persistent and named "worksets" of workspaces, that can be closed and reopened. One workset at a time, or multiple. It would help to be able to view/edit/access the same docs and tools in multiple windows, across workspaces, with different sizes and placements. Think the same Word doc, open in different workspaces, with disparate sizes. I would optimize worksets for every possible context: crafting areas, development projects, regular tasks, etc. The result would be dozens of worksets, that let me return to useful contexts months or even years between visits. So the workset manager should allow for hierarchical organization. And I would want worksets to sync across devices, along with my regular file and app syncing. Yup. That's it. That is all I want!
- duped 2y agoA lot of negative takes here. My understanding is that the point of developing cosmic is to enable distros and users to address UI issues in the first place, since GNOME is too limiting.
- ledgerdev 2y agoYeah, I'm also very excited for cosmic, and a solid modernize toolkit for the longer run future as well.
- JeremyNT 2y agoAgreed, it seems the "big deal" here is using a rust-native toolkit, iced[0], rather than just slapping together another reskinned gtk-based solution like most similar submissions do. So this is potentially a really cool thing, not just somebody tinkering with stylesheets. Probably the HN crowd is a bit jaded because of all the hyperbolic "low effort" distros/DEs that are just modified ubuntu/GNOME, but these folks seem to be legit. [0] https://github.com/iced-rs/iced https://github.com/iced-rs/iced
- nosbo 2y agoYeah I'm surprised. On other linux forums/sites I frequent there is a lot more positivity. I'm excited to see where it goes.
- petabyt 2y agoLooks like all the UIs are made with iced, a new UI library. My question, is this missing all the accessibility features found in uikits like Gtk and Qt? Does each app respect my system theme?
- tracker1 2y agoThey've created a new theme engine for their DE, they've also done minimal integration for Gnome apps (many of the non-iced apps are still Gnome based). Where KDE theme integration is on the backlog.
- ntnsndr 2y agoMy understanding is accessibility features are in the works before the full release
- dartharva 2y agoI wish ChromeOS's desktop environment gets ported and reimplemented across mainstream Linux and we're all freed from the GNOME/KDE GTK/Qt hell. It's just sad that Google's Linuxes (Android and ChromeOS) can do things like HDR, VRR, decent fractional scaling, decent font rendering, etc. but desktop Linux is still starved for these things to this day.
- croes 2y agoIsn't that because the hardware providers make it work? I doubt that ChromeOS would have the same features if it were just a distro to install on unspecific hardware.
- vinkelhake 2y agoYou mean like ChromeOS flex? https://chromeos.google/products/chromeos-flex/ https://chromeos.google/products/chromeos-flex/
- staplers 2y agoGiven Google's backdoor in Chromium (to ping google servers), I don't trust they would do anything different with their OS. Eventually it'd become a liability for any linux user knowingly or not.
- harel 2y agoIt's very... Gnome-ish...
- EasyMark 2y agothat's what they said from the beginning though? They just wanted something they could change instead gnome constantly changing things with little or no notice in new releases, breaking applets, plugins, etc with little or no time to change things and no input allowed from anyone other than what the gnome devs chose.
- msephton 2y agoI see nothing really "different" or "better" here, in terms of visuals or ease of use. To that end... I don't see the point in imitating a desktop experience that is pretty stagnant and moving in the wrong direction (macOS; I'm a user myself) when there are the decades that preceded Y2K that could be mined for much more usable an interesting desktop experiences. There's BeOS, Amiga Workbench, Atari ST various windowing managers, OS/2, Windows 9x, the list goes on... I still use Mac System 7.x from the mid-1990s which with a few choice extensions is basically equivalent to modern macOS windowing experience. And of course that goes back to the early 1980s with the prior System software and even the late 1970s with Apple Lisa development. Go further! Be more daring!
- ComplexSystems 2y agoYou still use System 7?!
- msephton 2y agoYes! Here we go: - Mostly on an iPad Pro, no less: https://blog.gingerbeardman.com/2021/04/17/turning-an-ipad-pro-into-the-ultimate-classic-macintosh/ https://blog.gingerbeardman.com/2021/04/17/turning-an-ipad-p... - Here's my latest artwork done in System 7: https://blog.gingerbeardman.com/2024/07/14/shibuya-pixel-art-contest-2024/#deneba-artworks-for-classic-macintosh https://blog.gingerbeardman.com/2024/07/14/shibuya-pixel-art... Believe it or not there are apps that run under System 7 that have no modern equivalents, or their modern counterparts are objectively worse. The vector apps I use on System 7 (Canvas, artWORKS, FreeHand, Expression) run rings round Figma in many important ways.
- the_duke 2y agoA lot of shallow "but the buttons!" comments here... no need to be so negative. This is the first alpha release of a full new desktop environment, built on a new GUI toolkit (based on Iced) and a new Wayland compositor, together with a suite of applications, all built from scratch in Rust .... give it some time. Most interesting to me is the integrated tiling support. I've been on i3/sway for many years, but a lean, lightweight and fast DE with tiling as a core feature and full proper keyboard navigation support everywhere might get me to switch. There are times where you really miss a proper DE over the hacky patchwork that a custom setup with a niche Wayland compositor entails.
- colordrops 2y agoYes, I'm using Hyprland at the moment but it's got a chaotic community and it's still pretty buggy (though heading in the right direction), but I'd love an advanced tiling Wayland WM that is less "hobbyish" as my daily driver.
- Zambyte 2y agoI don't know if you would consider Sway "hobbyish", but it has been rock solid for me for 4 years.
- colordrops 2y agoI knew someone would recommend sway which is why I added the word "advanced". I used sway for a couple years before moving to Hyprland because Sway hasn't moved much. There are things that I need that Sway doesn't do, like disabling Xwayland scaling, and proper screen and window sharing.
- darthrupert 2y agoHyprland community is fine.
- bee_rider 2y agoIt is sort of dumb but at this point I’ve bounced back and forth between i3 and sway long enough that I’m vaguely tired of them but also totally reliant on the key binds. But if I’m going to switch to a DE… I mean, I already have a fine customized window manager setup. The point of a DE is that it doesn’t need to be customized much and comes with all the bells, most of the whistle pre-installed. All that is to say, if new really interested in this as long as they ship it with a built in “i3-like key binds” option.
- natemcintosh 2y agoSo many negative takes here. Does it look perfect? No, it's an alpha. I think the most important thing is that it's built on a solid base that will allow it to grow into a really really great DE.
- dark__paladin 2y agoCool. I personally will keep using KDE Plasma.
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- bun_terminator 2y agoAs most software products, this is bad at explaining what this is. It takes quite a while to mention "linux"
- SilentM68 2y agoIt's a beautiful DE. I have Pop!_OS 22.04 running in my Helios 300 PH315-53 w/NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 6GB card. The laptop itself has horrible BIOS firmware, though. COSMIC works great, for the most part, with Pop!_OS with the exception of two issues. One is an Nvidia Driver issue, e.g. a stopped nvidia-power-services, which I resolved by rolling back to the nvidia-470 driver. The other thing that I have not been able to figure out is how to enable the Places Menu Item in the top dock bar. I don't see a setting for it either in gnome-tweaks, extensions or main settings App. I wish there were a way to have that option available in Tweaks.
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- ddtaylor 2y agoI have been following Cosmic since it's inception and Pop_Os! as well. For context, I was very against the Gnome 2 to Gnome 3 transition at the time because it destroyed so many useful and (at the time) did not replace them with an alternative. System76 is very hit-and-miss with their hardware (it's often pretty bad) but they are getting better at software over time. As a Linux user or a developer, Cosmic is not something I can touch right now. I'm super excited for the future of it and they are making a lot of waves. They are giving Gnome the kick they need in making a functional desktop for real users. The fact that Gnome still comes out of the box with no real solution for multitasking (dock, bar, something) other than to randomly hit the super key or jam your mouse into a corner is insane. Every distro and 99% of users are installing some kind of multitasking aid (you don't count if you're using a tiling window manager) I don't know all the specifics, but they also seem to be putting a realistic alternative to some of the plans, protocols, etc. Right now we have Gnome and KDE. KDE mostly does their own stuff and works with the FreeDesktop groups. Gnome works with them too, but more in a way of "here is what Gnome is doing you'll follow suite" kind of way. Having Cosmic as an option for people who want things closer to Gnome than KDE but don't want to deal with the "Gnome problems" will be good.
- kkfx 2y agoWell... Honestly not much impressed, it's a design from another era. For the present a desktop should be as "invisible" as possible, like old Ubuntu Unity desktop, a thin bar, a launcher, the rest search&narrow, menu included via the Unity HUD. Gnome SHell doing the opposite on purpose, copying the rest have just showcased another btrfs answer for zfs, or the reactionary behavior of some devs who refuse to operate "under the hood" instead in narcissistically in plain sight try to do their best to keep up an essentially deprecated model.
- samstave 2y agoDisclaimer: (Incoming long rant - I was an early and often adopter of the S76 machines when I ran a dev team ~10 years ago - S76 Gazelle was my first full-time production linux-only laptop that I ran (I still have 2 of them, and they are bother broken because between model releases CLIO (the OEM) changed the screen interface connector so a dead screen on one laptop couldnt be moved to the other, and lots LOTS of internal screws would fall out an rattle around - and then S76 wanted a retarded amount $$ for a replacement power adapter - etc... and their service went poor as they grew (Hellow Penguin Computing) -- with that said: --- If you want to redo the desktop, this is a Fisher-Price level of "why should I care" -- HERE Are the features I want in a desktop redux - (ita ll about the WORKFLOWS - not the fricken applets/widgets (the applets idea is a pullover, even if they dont know it, from when Android was seeking to be a good desktop, rather than a tablet, like vision (hospital devices - could give a tech talk on this)... But hear me out WORKFLOW or CONTEXTUAL desktopping: I can have multiple desktops on any OS - with a click-swipe left or right I can have another desktop. Which is akin to switching a clear spot on the physical desk. What I would want within a "new desktop environment" is that I can swap between my "coding" "gaming" "research" "kids-screen-time" "python rabbit hole" "AI Image gen" contexts... with a differing visual clues to which setting im contextualizing: Imagine you boot to your primary "normal desktop" - its just like any OS' vanilla post-login experience. Blank, no apps open, grab a browser, open a file, go to email - whatever. Now - I want to swap over to Context[0] - coding. I switch to that context, I get a visual cue (sure we can load pretty backgrounds, but a subtle change to the overall visuals of the windows dressings switch showing me I am in that context - it would load appletts that give me a preset of context that important (I select a series of things to pre-load, such as "Open VS Code with these folders, and launch FF with this set of contextual tabs. From this context block reddit, [other sites] - and ssh to this machine, give me a widget that shows connections to [environment] etc - give me a summary history of previous commands I was running, current active procs within [context scpoe] etc -- so effectively I have my development desktop context available. Then I switch to research and its opens the things I want for that - connections to whatever GPTs, rstudio/some BI tool... whateer - and a bucket of tabs and history that are appropriate. Kids tab is a sandbox for the kids as I teach them certain things... Or a Cooking context thats related to all things cooking. has a timer widget, last recipes looked up etc... --- You get the idea. (I wrote a white paper about this ages ago - and attempted to recruit some buddies from Goog multiple times to make the contextual computing relevant once motorola came out with that phone that could be docked with data (My white paper on the subject was written in ~2002-4 (cant recall now) -- which was that you held your environment in your mobile and you could walk up to any empty compute/gpu/KVM - slot your phone there, it is the key - it opens your context from device, and cloud, and gave your the local resources of GPU/CPU/KVM whereever you needed it. No storage on the local HW... but you could take advantage of it (aside: A great alt model that is a modern version would be able to walk up to a heavy GPU with pre-loaded giant models - and you can plug into them for context and run your stuff locally against them and get your results - but walk away from them (think Hot-Desking but for big-ass-GPUs -- I havent thought too much about this - but its an effective analogy for when I first wrote about this) Anyway -- What I want is a revolutiuon in HOW we see the desktop. The analogy for a desktop, a physical desktop is dated -- now its "conscious compute contexts" -- Where the whole environment shifts to support what one is attempting to do. ### This really sounds like it could serve the above. The sharing it with friends:: or team members -- you should be able to invite folks to a context - such that you can have a multi-user context whereby you send an @COSMIC link to a context to a colleague over slack - they load the link, and it effectively launches a "docker" context of the environment to the other user... now they have all apps and deps to jump fully into the context. This would be useable for teaching, guiding, troubleshooting, development, collaboration... Set a master context and its all in a repo - and when other users need to upstream a dependency to the context they simply install whatever within their context and it acts like PR to the context owner. It allows for ephemeral installatino of dependencies - and you can tick for perm inclusion - else they evap on leaving context - yet the history of the ephemerals is kept incase you want to resurrect them/include them in the master context settings. from a window management aesthetic -- KILL ALL WHITESPACE -- meaning all the superflous padding. Stop making desktop buttons look like shit I should be using on a kiosk. With all that said: Im down to try it I will give it an honest go - and if any Sys76 folks are here - I still have my gazelles - and my ticket about you swapping out the connector on the same model of box still stands! Ill see if I can make an applet -- specifically I want a context applet that is imbued with RAG -- mayhaps building the applet on txtai libs so that my entire bash hist is txtAI rag'd ... Ill try out COSMIC on a flagship OMEN 3070 gaming box and see how this works... I really want to see if I can imbue (imbue was the name of my white paper from ~2002 on the subject) the workflows I would like... (I've Forrest Gump'd through a lot of technical tides in my sordid life in Silicon Valley)
- stiltzkin 2y agoI think Cosmic could fit so well with DHH Omakub.
- pmarreck 2y agoThanks (to whomever) for making this work on NixOS and including instructions for that!
- sureglymop 2y agoI am sad that they discontinued their Pop Shell gnome extension. I use GNOME but with the animations completely turned off. That combined with the tiling shell feels really snappy and good. I am really considering forking that extension and also visually improving it a little (not a fan of their design language, though I like the modern adwaita style of gtk/gnome apps).
- nosbo 2y agoI'm hoping a community continues the work there.
- tetrisgm 2y agoThis looks good for an alpha. The days of Compiz Fusion and crazy desktop gizmos are far behind. I'd love Linux to be a viable gaming platform, I'd totally use this. Steam OS is a step in the right direction but nowhere near the flexibility of Windows yet. (Please don't try to convince me otherwise. Good luck playing Fallout London on Linux, for example.)
- nipperkinfeet 2y agoIs there a desktop version? Everything appears to be excessively big and padded, as if it were designed for a tablet.
- adgjlsfhk1 2y agothey've said that alpha 2 will likely have a compact layout that reduces padding
- Mu2x2i 2y ago[dead]