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Starship's Third Flight Test [video]
- fernandotakai 3y agothose plasma views when starship was coming into atmosphere were absolutely mind blowing. it makes a lot of sense to use starlink for this, but it never ever crossed my mind.
- kkoyung 3y agoHaving those plasma views in livestream. It is incredible.
- schnitzelstoat 3y agoYeah, in HD. It's sci-fi stuff.
- chinathrow 3y agoAs of today, it's the new normal!
- mrandish 3y agoThe new norminal!
- yreg 3y agoJust like the first belly flop video. The thirty seconds from 1:00 are unreal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6ppby3JC8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6ppby3JC8
- huhtenberg 3y agoPlasma blocks all EM radiation. That's why livestreaming plasma views is so incredible, not just because views themselves are nice.
- schnitzelstoat 3y agoThat's incredible.
- chasd00 3y agoyeah that was really cool, it looked like an artist rendition of what it could look like hah. I'm looking forward to high-res photos of those views.
- ordu 3y agoThe booster puncturing spheres of clouds on a way back was awesome also.
- danw1979 3y agoThat was my highlight of the test: live video of the biggest rocket booster hitting the ocean at 1000km/h.
- tempaway444641 3y agovideo: https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1768279990368612354 https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1768279990368612354 Note the camera moves because its also on a flap
- mrandish 3y agoIndeed! I just want to thank SpaceX for giving me yet another "This looks like insane Hollywood special effects but it's real" moment.
- BenoitP 3y agoWhen: 8:25 AM CT Launch window: 7:00 AM CT - 8:50 AM CT --- Updates: (future)T+40: Starship relight and entry T+12: Elevator music engaged, please stay tuned for T+40 T+11: Payload door testing T+8: Upper stage SECO, nominal orbit insertion T+7: (mine) KSP moment for booster reentry, instabilities. Signal cut off because of exhaust conducts electricity and absorbs RF. Status unknown T-11: Still no blockers. Watching winds, may have hold at T-40s. T-30: Broadcast started T-60: (SpaceX Twitter) The Starship team is go for prop load but keeping an eye on winds, now targeting 8:25 a.m. CT for liftoff T-65: (SpaceX Twitter) Shifting T-0 a few more minutes to give boats time to clear the keep out area, now targeting 8:10 a.m. CT T-65: (SpaceX Twitter) New liftoff time is 8:02 a.m. CT, team is clearing a few boats from the keep out area in the Gulf of Mexico T-45: No blockers T-90: (SpaceX Twitter) Weather is 70% favorable for today’s third integrated flight test of Starship. The live webcast will begin ~30 minutes before liftoff ---- Streams: High Quality VLC: Open VLC, Media, Open Network Stream, paste following, Play: (higher quality) https://prod-ec-us-west-2.video.pscp.tv/Transcoding/v1/hls/gBsfBOvU8UeoyLWWRQ5LJLWU4mw5670V1iMlhQAd0Z1rxjEygWsrVEzkhce3HlPa_E9bydVTZ05_nlB72qGyPg/transcode/us-west-2/periscope-replay-direct-prod-us-west-2-public/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCIsInZlcnNpb24iOiIyIn0.eyJFbmNvZGVyU2V0dGluZyI6ImVuY29kZXJfc2V0dGluZ18xMDgwcDMwXzEwIiwiSGVpZ2h0IjoxMDgwLCJLYnBzIjo1NTAwLCJXaWR0aCI6MTkyMH0.OImMZabKYJ0cs9CnIapU-4aBk6KNBiJxi1hh-6l4BZ4/dynamic_highlatency.m3u8?type=live https://prod-ec-us-west-2.video.pscp.tv/Transcoding/v1/hls/g... (lower latency) https://prod-ec-us-west-2.video.pscp.tv/Transcoding/v1/hls/gBsfBOvU8UeoyLWWRQ5LJLWU4mw5670V1iMlhQAd0Z1rxjEygWsrVEzkhce3HlPa_E9bydVTZ05_nlB72qGyPg/transcode/us-west-2/periscope-replay-direct-prod-us-west-2-public/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCIsInZlcnNpb24iOiIyIn0.eyJFbmNvZGVyU2V0dGluZyI6ImVuY29kZXJfc2V0dGluZ18xMDgwcDMwXzEwIiwiSGVpZ2h0IjoxMDgwLCJLYnBzIjo1NTAwLCJXaWR0aCI6MTkyMH0.OImMZabKYJ0cs9CnIapU-4aBk6KNBiJxi1hh-6l4BZ4/dynamic_lowlatency.m3u8?type=live https://prod-ec-us-west-2.video.pscp.tv/Transcoding/v1/hls/g... NASASpaceflight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrxCYzixV3s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrxCYzixV3s Spaceflight Now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfnkZFtHPmM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfnkZFtHPmM Everyday Astronaut: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixZpBOxMopc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixZpBOxMopc LabPadre Space: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMyXho_YCK8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMyXho_YCK8 (FR) Techniques Spatiales: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRXfWLVMEQ8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRXfWLVMEQ8 ---- Mission profile: https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-flight-3 https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-... ---- Links: https://twitter.com/SpaceX https://twitter.com/SpaceX https://twitter.com/elonmusk https://twitter.com/elonmusk https://old.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/1bb8scf/rspacex_integrated_flight_test_3_official_launch/ https://old.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/1bb8scf/rspacex_int...
- chasd00 3y agoThe nasaspaceflight streams are pretty good too. I like their commentary. https://www.youtube.com/live/RrxCYzixV3s?si=1MFBk8yzD3VcRdWk https://www.youtube.com/live/RrxCYzixV3s?si=1MFBk8yzD3VcRdWk
- xixixao 3y agoGoing for fueling, launch scheduled with 25min left in the window (getting tight) (8:35CT). Watching wind speed.
- namaria 3y agoI was just watching Spacex official stream and at ignition they switched to Musk hawking cryptocurrency. What just happened?? edit: wild I just realized take off is 50 minutes from now... what had I been watching?? they did a countdown and there was ignition... was that a time wrap? Am I going insane? edit2: @spacex034 is not @spacex... today I learned...
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- cam72cam 3y agoSpaceX does not stream on YouTube, you are watching an old launch on a fake channel. Please report them.
- namaria 3y agoDang I got got. Thanks for letting me know
- bluescrn 3y agoYou weren't the only one, I clicked on it too, as did thousands of others, before finding a real stream
- sneak 3y agoYouTube does a bad job of real time takedowns of spoofed live streams. You’d think for big events like this they would have somebody just standing by and monitoring social stuff so that things like this don’t happen. Then again you'd think one of Amazon's 1.5M employees would have the job of finding fake USB sticks for sale on the site, but apparently nobody has that title either.
- dylan604 3y ago> You’d think for big events like this they would have somebody just standing by This implies that YT has humans that are not in sales. It feels like YT just has bots building more bots at this point.
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- whitehexagon 3y agoAnyone have a non youtube link please?
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- mdorazio 3y agoSpaceX does not stream on YouTube anymore. You can always get the official X broadcast link off their spacex.com launches page. Here's the one for today: https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-flight-3 https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-...
- whitehexagon 3y agothanks, I had to unblock twitter.com on my firewall, lets see if it starts up [edit] up and running, great!
- SushiHippie 3y agoFWIW, this seems to be the m3u8 link of that stream: https://prod-ec-us-west-2.video.pscp.tv/Transcoding/v1/hls/gBsfBOvU8UeoyLWWRQ5LJLWU4mw5670V1iMlhQAd0Z1rxjEygWsrVEzkhce3HlPa_E9bydVTZ05_nlB72qGyPg/non_transcode/us-west-2/periscope-replay-direct-prod-us-west-2-public/master_dynamic_highlatency.m3u8?type=live https://prod-ec-us-west-2.video.pscp.tv/Transcoding/v1/hls/g...
- whitehexagon 3y agoWow, the re-entry is almost as exciting! hopefully the ship got the heat shield rotated into position again. I wonder why they dont cover the whole rocket with them if they are as light as they demonstrated. Amazing watch anyway, thanks.
- macintux 3y agoPlacing the heat tiles is (currently) entirely manual, and is very time-consuming. Starship is big.
- conradgodfrey 3y agoFor an uninformed person like myself - what's the expectation for this launch? Is it expected to explode like the last two?
- TOMDM 3y agoThey are hoping to achieve a hard landing in the ocean. Given the progress shown between the first and second integrated test, odds are decent that they'll achieve it, however they are also trying for a number of firsts in orbit so who knows.
- pixl97 3y agoWell, yes, but the question is when. If everything goes right the booster will likely explode when it lands in the gulf . Starship itself will most likely explode on reentry somewhere over the Indian ocean. Now, I think the question is, will it explode before then, and of course that's why they do flight tests to find out.
- pixl97 3y agoReplying to myself. Booster made the boost back burn successfully and had a mostly controlled flight into the gulf. I say mostly because it looked like it had some instability and met the water somewhere close to 1000km/h if telemetry was right (or went unstable just before then). 10 minutes into flight starship is coasting in space for the next 30 minutes and should relight at around 40 minutes.
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- allenrb 3y agoVery excited for this as usual, and thanks to a few delays, I won’t be on the train at T-0. As for expectations, I’ll be thrilled to see Starship reach orbital velocity. Last time was so close. Engine restart and intact reentry? Even better but maybe more of a stretch? Fears? Only that it doesn’t do as well as IFT-2. And that’s always a possibility.
- boiler_up800 3y agoAlso commuting around this :) Looks to be very successful. I wonder how many tests the ship can pass in orbit.
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- pixl97 3y agoIt would also cost $45 billion dollars in todays dollars, one time use. If you would have told the Sat5 engineers to "also make it reusable" they'd have asked for a trillion dollars, or more correctly told you "We can't do that at this time".
- ben-schaaf 3y agoSA-500D's second stage blew up in testing injuring 5 people, not to mention the Apollo 1 disaster.
- fnord77 3y agoApollo 1 was atop the Saturn IIB. And it was a capsule fire, not a rocket failure.
- RuggedPineapple 3y agoTo be fair the capsule caught fire in a ground test once with three lives lost (Apollo 1) and the command module had an explosion in space once (Apollo 13) with no loss of life but it was a close thing. I do agree with your larger point though. SpaceX just feels so much less impressive then previous major rockets, and that's only reinforced when they try and celebrate minor milestones like its supposed to be the greatest achievement ever. As if they want a cookie. Blue Origin has the same issue where they want acknowledgement for minor progress. Its only slightly less annoying because they make less of a deal about it, but this problem permeates the new space race/billionaire toys parade.
- resolutebat 3y agoOn what metric is this a "minor milestone"? They just successfully hoisted the largest rocket ever made into orbit, and unlike the Saturn V this will be fully reusable.
- duluca 3y agoWhat an amazing effort. Best of luck to team SpaceX. I really hope both ships survive all the way to the ocean this time.
- piva00 3y agoIt's flying! And all engines are burning, it's pretty damn impressive to see this thing lift off.
- perihelions 3y agoIt's in orbit! ("...and we have a callout for nominal orbit insertion...") edit: Not actually in orbit! This is a suborbital flight. Mea culpa
- preisschild 3y agoTechnically its suborbital
- thelittleone 3y agoIsn't orbit above 125 miles (200km)?
- madaxe_again 3y agoOrbit is when you drop an apple off a dining room table - it’s just a very crappy orbit. “On orbit” typically means in a stable orbit around a body - but in the case of starship, it could have been on orbit, the delta v is more than sufficient, but that’s an unsafe configuration if you don’t know your engines will relight.
- apendleton 3y agoOrbit is mostly about speed, not about height. Going straight up and down doesn't count, even if you pass the height that some orbital vehicles attain. This vehicle is actually going orbital speed, but not quite orbital height (or rather, it's in an "orbit" that has a very eccentric elliptical shape that would cause it to hit the atmosphere on its way back around; it'd be well above a typical orbital height at apogee, though).
- ta1243 3y agoTechnically you can orbit the earth at a pretty low speed. Geostationary satellites orbit about 5,500kph, which is far slower than the 26,000kph starship reached today. You just need to get high enough, and be pointing in the right direction.
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- rawling 3y agoHahah, the elevator music while they wait for reentry...
- 4ggr0 3y agoI actually have the stream open in the background, can't believe how happy and calm this music makes me while patching servers :D
- engineer_22 3y agoCame here to say exactly this :) great choice of music!
- namaria 3y agoIf you like that here's a protip: search for bossa nova instrumentals on youtube for soothing tropical background music
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- dougmwne 3y agoStarship has reached orbit!
- fernandotakai 3y agoman, so much progress from the first two test launches. starship is alive and well, and the booster almost made it to soft water landing.
- simfoo 3y ago1000 km/h booster impact at sea, call that a "soft landing/splash down". Poor fishies :)
- _Microft 3y agoI guess they didn’t want to make it too easy for some Chinese fishing vessels ;)
- sneak 3y agoChinese fishing vessels in the Gulf of Mexico?
- jajko 3y agoOn shores of Africa, in Gulf of Mexico... yes, in 2024 ships can travel far
- b112 3y agoProbably even in Lake Superior.
- Kon-Peki 3y agoI was going to write that a boat could get from the ocean into Lake Superior without ever entering the United States (by hugging the Canadian side of all lakes and rivers), but it appears that there is a dam on the St Lawrence River near Cornwall Ontario that forces you to take a short <10 mile detour through a river/canal in New York.
- schnitzelstoat 3y agoThey are on vacation.
- Etheryte 3y agoIllegal fishing by Chinese fleets is now commonplace in Africa, in Argentina, etc [0], so given how much they've expanded operations over the years it's only a matter of time before you see them there too, if it hasn't happened already. [0] https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/09/26/world/asia/china-fishing-south-america.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/09/26/world/asia/ch...
- DarmokJalad1701 3y agoBeautiful flight so far!
- maxglute 3y agoBreathtaking stream.
- hereme888 3y agoThe elevator music during this next 30 minutes in orbit! lol Flawless launch.
- fabian2k 3y agoLooked very impressive and there is enormous progress compared to the earlier tests. Especially as all engines seemed to work throughout the entire launch, the earlier tests had significant engine troubles so they seem to have a handle on that now. The reentry burn failing doesn't seem like a huge deal in this case, especially as the engines worked very well earlier.
- XorNot 3y agoIts still an issue because they haven't really confidently demonstrated a relight of the engines while flying. Hot staging avoids a relight, but they still need to do it. It does mean they technically have an expendable heavy launch vehicle though.
- hughes 3y agoThe boostback burn demonstrated relight today.
- Daneel_ 3y agoThe key demonstration is “relight in a vacuum”, which was the test that was skipped late in the stream. If you can do this then deorbiting is possible. Relight of the booster doesn’t demonstrate this, unfortunately.
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- hagbard_c 3y ago> It does mean they technically have an expendable heavy launch vehicle though. That is how they started using Falcon 9 as well: first expendable but testing recovery - which failed several times in several interesting ways - until that process was refined into what now seems to be a normal thing: the first stage launches, drops off a second stage, turns around and makes its way back to either the launch site or a floating platform. I assume they have the same plans for this system: launch expendable while using the hardware to refine the process of recovery until in not that many years from now they launch and land and launch again.
- DarmokJalad1701 3y agoThe test is essentially a success at this point. Starship can take payload to orbit and open/close the payload doors. The remaining things are icing on the cake. They can refine re-usability while flying payloads.
- enraged_camel 3y agoI think they also successfully demoed in-space fuel transfer.
- xondono 3y agoFuel transfer with what? That would require things like docking
- Tor3 3y agoThey transferred something like 10 tonnes of fuel from one end of the ship to the other.
- hagbard_c 3y agoTransfer internally between tanks in the bottom and top of the ship. This was one of the planned tests, I have not heard whether it was accomplished though.
- dotnet00 3y agoThere was a callout saying that it was successful. Edit: On the other hand tweets from Gwynne suggest that they still need to review the data to see if it was a success.
- enraged_camel 3y agoThey performed an in-ship fuel transfer, from one chamber to another. My understanding is that this is a very important pre-requisite for an actual transfer from one ship to another, because of the need to keep the fuel at cryogenic temperatures during the transfer, which is apparently not easy. Last time it was done was decades ago, but in kilograms. SpaceX just demoed a transfer of tons of fuel.
- tempaway444641 3y agoT+37: Seems a little turny-aroundy in orbit there and a bit "small-pieces-falling-offy" Still, good job getting it there T+43: seems to be turning around a bit too much for something thats got heat shields on one side and is about to re-enter T+45: flaps moved, maybe that is supposed to get it the right way round, I get it now - it uses the flaps to orient for re-entry T+46: the little bits of debris must be tiles coming off T+46: flap glowing red, can see plasma (edit: spacex tweeted a video of this bit, its quite something https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1768279990368612354 https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1768279990368612354 note the camera position moves because the camera is on one of the forward flaps) T+47: "biggest flying object ever in space" uh-oh T+47: serious re-entry flames T+48: loss of signal T+54: still no signal T+62: saying they lost signal via starlink and TDRS at same time so maybe that was the end of it T+65: confirmed lost during re-entry T+67: the presenters all eat a large pie. each.
- namaria 3y agoI'm still in awe that I got to watch a reentry live stream just now. I wish I could tell my child self what wonders were in store. Watching humanity progress in real time is amazing.
- AnimalMuppet 3y agoKids. I got to watch a moon landing live. (Not a stream, and crummy resolution, but still...) [Edit: I meant to be talking smack a bit, but don't let me ruin your enjoyment of the really amazing things that are happening now.]
- twh270 3y agoYeah, it's pretty awesome to watch "the first" of something! I wasn't born early enough to watch the moon landing, but I did watch the livestream of the first successful landing of a Falcon 9. Watching that bit of science fiction turn into reality was one of the more memorable moments of my life.
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- jboggan 3y agoThat re-entry video was quite amazing and beautiful.
- renewiltord 3y agoMind-blowing stuff. Breathtaking to be honest. Live video is such high quality. Sci Fi made real. Looks like Starship lost but so much farther than before. This is incredibly exciting stuff.
- iamthirsty 3y agoUnfortunate that it was lost on re-entry. Super glad most of the mission was a success.
- BenoitP 3y agoFR24 shows a Dassault Falcon 900EX doing circles around the expected Starship re-entry location (Perth to Perth flight plan): https://www.flightradar24.com/MXJ/345b8f09 https://www.flightradar24.com/MXJ/345b8f09
- mikeyouse 3y agoNot looking good - Returning to Perth now.
- grecy 3y agoFrom a safety perspective, how does that work? This is obviously a test, and safe to say the vehicle was out of control and not entirely predictable. I realize they wouldn't fly into the actual predicted landing area, but just being close must be a risk. Would the flight crew on that plane literally be scanning the sky above them to make sure they're not in the direct path of whatever comes down at whatever speed?
- terramex 3y agoIf onboard computer would sense that Ship is going somewhere it should not be it would trigger FTS (Flight Termination System) and destroy it with debris falling into Atlantic Ocean (exclusion zone was there as well). Once Ship finished burn it simply had to land in predicted landing area in Indian Ocean, it did not have enough fuel on board to significantly change trajectory even if computer went crazy.
- BenoitP 3y agoI guess some risk analysis can be made with the plane's and Starship's cross-section. Let say they are cubes of 30m each. The expected area where they might both be present to be a 5km square. That's a 0.000025 chance of collision at most; and I suppose the plane is away from the center of the expected Starship Gaussian. I'd personally ride in that plane and risk that, even to just to get a glimpse of the reentry.
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- travisgriggs 3y agoI was surprised that during the initial ascent footage from the fin-cam, you can see that the grid fins are out. Do they not fold back on ascent? Or possibly drag on one side to arc over? Just seems weird to have your “drag device” deployed during ascent.
- malfist 3y agoThey're control surfaces, they help keep the pointy end up and the flamey end down
- grecy 3y agoThey fold in/out on Falcon 9, but for the starship booster the decided it's not worth it. The extra weight and complexity to fold them in/out doesn't provide enough of a benefit. Elon talked about it a couple of years back on one of Everyday Astronaut's videos.
- Laremere 3y agoGrid fins aren't drag devices. They are control surfaces. As long as they are oriented so the fins are aligned with the airflow, they have no effect on orientation. The benefit of not folding them in is one less part that can fail. There might be a slight reduction in drag by folding them in, but not much and apparently not worth it.
- ironyman 3y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Starship_integrated_flight_test_3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Starship_integrated_fli... Mission summary including timestamps
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago> Raptor in-space relight demo | No attempt That was a big one to not attempt. Why didn't they attempt it?
- cubefox 3y agoPossibly because they partially lost attitude control.
- ta1243 3y ago"Starship did not attempt its planned on-orbit relight of a single Raptor engine due to vehicle roll rates during coast" https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-flight-3 https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-...
- sashank_1509 3y agoSo FAA cleared SpaceX and then within a few days they completed their launch pretty successfully by all accounts. So does that mean SpaceX could have launched a while back with no issues and were just waiting on the FAA? Did the FAA literally just slow down progress? Not a good look on the FAA, they should just let SpaceX do what it does at the speed they want. If they cannot add any value to this engagement, the least they can do is to not subtract value.
- pixl97 3y agoWhen you're launching the largest and heaviest rocket ever made not running headlong into creating the biggest fuel air explosion is part of the regulatory agencies job. The first launch was pretty wildly out of control so everyone wants to make sure the rocket explodes when told if it doesn't go where it's supposed to.
- s1artibartfast 3y agoI think you touch on the issue of managing public perception as part of the FAAs job. In general the public is not monolithic when it comes to this. Many people would ecstatic with the biggest fuel air explosion and thought Launch 1 was great while others were aghast. Some people even think rockets shouldn't be developed at all. As a result, you see regulators trying to find a line between covering their asses from blowback from different groups of constituents.
- dotnet00 3y agoIt's a bit of a complex interplay. If the FAA were finishing their investigations very quickly, SpaceX could be more aggressive with their testing. But on the other hand, as SpaceX gets a better read on how long the FAA might take, they time their readiness to when the FAA will be done. For example, here they waited ~1 week between Starship being ready and done with a wet-dress rehearsal. If they knew that the FAA would be finishing earlier, they'd try to get through the WDR earlier. But since there's plenty of other development and testing to do on the ground, they just do that in the meantime. The FAA delays were more of an issue around IFT-1 because they really couldn't proceed on much without knowing how all the big systems they built would perform, they would've been working blind (and considering how the launch infrastructure needed further strengthening, doing too much more without that data would've probably been a waste of money). That isn't really the case now, while they wait on the FAA they can focus on the payload bays, refining the control systems, building the second launch tower etc.
- jumpman_miya 3y agoMan this has me crying like a baby. I do not know why.
- tompark 3y agoDid anyone notice at around T+30:16 the cargo door was almost shut when it looked like it popped out of place. Then the view suddenly switched to an external camera. Am I wrong?
- eagerpace 3y agoYeah, seems like something that needed to be closed even if it were on the cool side of the reentry.
- pfdietz 3y agoIt got much farther than IFT-2, and exposed new problems, which is the purpose of a test flight. This seems like a success. Things will only be bad if some problem is exposed that doesn't look solvable.
- was_a_dev 3y agoI'm happy they have some data with respect to re-entry. It would have been nice to see the vehicle survive for longer, but there's something to go forward with.
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