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Piracy was never stealing to begin with.
by the-dude 3y ago
Piracy was never stealing to begin with.
- r0ckarong 3y agoDigital piracy. Piracy was indeed piracy at one time.
- codedokode 3y agoPiracy still exists.
- LoganDark 3y agoYep, shipping containers are stolen straight off ships to this very day, or ships are just straight-up hijacked. Real, actual piracy.
- xg15 3y agoIs there still a lot of piracy with the goal to actually steal the goods though? My impression is that current-day pirates try to capture the ships themselves and hold them for ransom. (Genuinely curious though)
- LoganDark 3y agoI think so. I haven't read any recent news on it or anything, but there are surely still pirates that steal individual containers or sets of containers rather than trying to hijack the entire ship.
- defrost 3y agoIndividual containers are far far easier to steal dockside - seals can be broken and contents taken leaving the container and an undiscovered theft, containers can be rerouted onto trucks, etc. Stealing a container on the high seas is damn near impossible, doable but a challenge. The middle ground would be taking under tow floating containers that fall off of ships in bad weather - but I daresay that comes under salvage.
- bananaowl 3y agoIt's come down to hostage ransom now. Easier to pull some people off the boat and hide them in the jungle for ransom. The huge vessel they came in on requires expertise to crew.
- Wytwwww 3y agoTo be fair, historically, capturing people was likely always far more lucrative. The Mediterranean piracy for instance far was bigger (by several magnitudes) than the much more culturally popular Caribbean piracy. The Barbary pirates enslaved about 1.25 million people between 1530 and 1780 (and it was a massive threat in the Middle Ages and ancient times we just don't really have reliable figures). It was such a massive threat that coastal villages all but disappeared throughout much of Mediterranean Europe. The barbary pirates went as far as Ireland, England or even Iceland to murder an enslave people. This was an issue up until the 1800s (the first foreign war the US fought was against Morocco and Tripolitania) when the European powers finally took a break from fighting each other to do something about their common enemies who were terrorizing their subjects for centuries.
- PicassoCTs 3y agoPiracy is to increase big time. All it takes is a remote-autonomous drone canoe with explosives and a protection money racket.
- stavros 3y agoIt's not hard to render remote-autonomous drone canoes inoperable, with various sorts of remotely-operated countermeasures like a signal jammer or a rifle.
- codedokode 3y agoCivilian ships cannot have weapon, can they? Sea is not America.
- amelius 3y agoSpeaking of which, here's a great piracy idea: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1535109/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1535109/ Interpret that how you want ;)
- moffkalast 3y agoLook at me. I am the captain now.
- user432678 3y agoCool! Then you can fill in crew evaluation journals, file the ship maintenance report, negotiate the rates with the unions.
- r0ckarong 3y agoPuts on my best Hedberg glasses and yet, it still was ... too.
- WendyTheWillow 3y agoIt’s immoral, regardless of what you call it, as it’s a violation of the social contract.
- j_maffe 3y agoMonopolies and price-gouging are a violation of the social contract.
- WendyTheWillow 3y agoFirstly they are not (and presupposing the latter claim begs the question anyway), and secondly if you think that then don’t participate in the use of the ill gotten goods. Nobody died because they couldn’t hear a song or watch a movie.
- monkeywork 3y agoBy your logic who died when someone downloaded a non approved copy?
- WendyTheWillow 3y agoThat isn’t my logic, but the artist is harmed, for one…
- majkinetor 3y agoArtists are not harmed, for sure. If you don't have money, you wouldn't buy it anyway. By pirating in that scenario, you are promoting it, and thus artist benefits.
- WendyTheWillow 3y agoYou’re presuming all pirates only pirate what they otherwise would not purchase, which is impossible to claim credibly.
- totetsu 3y agoPiracy was never piracy
- tommiegannert 3y agoPerhaps part of the problem is that even the pro-copying side keeps calling it "piracy." I'm pretty sure it's meant to induce negative feelings in the listener.
- idle_zealot 3y agoMaybe I'm just sheltered, but "pirates" to me evoke goofy adventures and hijinks more than hardened criminals hurting innocents. So describing copyright violations as "piracy" emphasizes how comical the laws being broken are.
- civilitty 3y agoSame. When I think of “pirates” I think of this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ju_10NkGY https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ju_10NkGY
- paradox460 3y agoI tend to think of this https://youtu.be/WOYhF8jgeO0 https://youtu.be/WOYhF8jgeO0