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Hey the creator here, was not expecting this to blow up at all. I made this I guess because of the Streisand effect, I probably never would have bothered if it
by corn-dog 3y ago
Hey the creator here, was not expecting this to blow up at all. I made this I guess because of the Streisand effect, I probably never would have bothered if it weren’t for all the news about ad blockers not working.
I intend this as a second line of defence against ads, where the first line would be a conventional ad blocker.
After work I’m going to investigate the same technique for speeding up paid sponsor portions of the video.
My background is a web dev, but I make extensions in my spare time :) I recommend making some yourself they are a fun little project. This one only took about 4 hours so I’m laughing at the interest :)
If you want to see a way more awesome extension I’ve created check this out - https://mobileview.io/ https://mobileview.io/
- jraph 3y agoIn case you don't know about it, make sure to check out SponsorBlock, which optionally, automatically skips parts you don't want to see like for example sponsors (but not only). You can use this awesome DB for what you want to do. And also Invidious. And also their combination. User of both, I'm unaffected by the recent adblocking issues on YouTube and I can still subscribe to channels, reliably. Without any Google account. (by the way, a simple regular RSS feed reader would do, since YouTube provides RSS feeds for each channel, but Invidious is a really convenient, specialized UI for this, without the notification / algorithm issues that seem to plague YouTube wrt this, but I digress) All these issues are already solved by these projects. I guess one could consider contributing to them (financially or with code for instance). The official YouTube frontend actually don't need no love, others already achieve what we want. Piped, NewPipe and FreeTube are also projects to look into (I loved NewPipe when I had a smartphone, Piped looks very good too and FreeTube looks interesting but I know less about them).
- gustavus 3y ago> In case you don't know about it, make sure to check out SponsorBlock So I don't love ads but mostly because of the privacy invasion they represent, but sponsorships I have a lot less of a problem with. Oftentimes sponsorships will have at least marginal connection with what in watch (most of the time looking at you NordVPN and Raid Shadow Legends) but to me sponsorships are the happy middle ground that allows creators to get some recompense for their labors without turning everything into an adscape dystopia. Really I don't have a problem with ads on websites back in the day as long as they were somewhat tasteful, which they often were because the creator worked to integrate them into their work, but the constant user surveillance and spamming random nonsensical ads are what bugged me. I mean some channels that I frequent have even turned the sponsorships into additional entertaining content (check out Ryan George's the Adstronaut or Viva La Dirt League).
- jraph 3y agoYeah, I personally hate sponsor segments but strongly sympathize with your view. I'm currently looking for a way to donate to the stuff I watch instead.
- bee_rider 3y agoAd based businesses also have an incentive to maximize attention and interaction rather than enjoyment, education, or user happiness. We’ve played a few rounds of this game, we’re dumber, sadder, and more politically polarized for it.
- saturn8601 3y agoAny open source player client for iOS? Does not seem like any of the listed ones are compatible with iOS.
- Manuel_D 3y agoUnless you're willing to root your phone, or use a developer certificate to run an unofficial app, I don't think there's any chance of getting an 3rd party youtube client on iOS. They're breaking youtube's TOS which is why they have to be side loaded on android.
- saturn8601 3y agoI am willing to use a developer certificate to run unofficial apps...if there is code available i'd be happy to compile and load it onto my phone. I don't think there is though. I just cannot go back to Android after years of dealing with garbage(I owned all the Nexus phones and gave up after Nexus 5) so my options have been to limit phone usage in favor of Desktop + start working on as many homemade/ open source versions of iPhone apps that I use as possible. Luckily most apps i'd be likely to have installed are just some downloaded data(text, audio, video) and some buttons. How hard can it be to scrape and rip the content and make my own container to serve that data? For other apps like Youtube alternatives I am in search of an app.
- eiiot 3y agouYou+ is good, I use it regularly. Especially with a developer certificate.
- saturn8601 3y agoThanks, will check it out!
- jraph 3y agoInvidious and Piped should actually work quite well. Not apps, but work fine in a browser. That's what I'm using on the PinePhone and on regular computers. Though I don't know if Safari still has limitations that make it a pain to use. Invidious is a pain on the iPad 2 because of some dumb design decisions in Safari but I expect it to have improved since then. And maybe third party browsers will at last be allowed on iOS through third party stores, maybe also allowing SponsorBlock to be used on this platform. I'm missing some features like being able to select a play next video easily, so I may look into writing an Invidious-based client of some sort for this, but they are so many things to do for a strongly limited time. Maybe Piped has the features I'd like to have, I should check it out.
- Hikikomori 3y agoSmarttube on my tv (Nvidia shield), revanced on phone and Vivaldi with ublock, no YouTube ads anywhere.
- xvector 3y agoI just pay for Premium instead of grifting. Planetary-scale server farms and video hosting is not free.
- oaththrowaway 3y agoThey harvest everything I do online without my consent or permission without paying me. Fair is fair
- dangus 3y agoYou consented by using the service. You don’t have to use YouTube.
- oaththrowaway 3y agoI don't consent on every other site that uses google analytics? And last time I checked, consent isn't implied.
- recursive 3y agoDisable third party cookies.
- oaththrowaway 3y agoBut then Google won't know everything about me so that would be immoral of me to do
- recursive 3y ago
- Lamad1234 3y agoI don't mind sponsor ads..
- nullandvoid 3y agoDo you not get bored of spending ~10% of the total time you watch videos being spent on largely brainrot gambling / predatory game advertisements?
- true_religion 3y agoI don’t know what you watch, but the videos I watch just have sponsorships for jewelry and other luxury products. It’s not really worth it for me to block fashion sponsors who tell me what is popular, when I would otherwise have to go research to find the same information.
- nullandvoid 3y agoFair, I have never seen a single jewellery / luxury sponsor (It's more Raycon, Raid shadow legends etc for me), however I wouldn't ever purchase them even if I did. My experience is that most sponsors are overpriced, largely garbage products, that they must pay YouTube to promote in order to sell.
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- ndr 3y agoIs there any chance something like this could work on chromecast?
- c0wb0yc0d3r 3y agohttps://github.com/dmunozv04/iSponsorBlockTV https://github.com/dmunozv04/iSponsorBlockTV might work
- rpastuszak 3y agoMy (semi) serious attempt at blocking sponsored segments: https://butter.sonnet.io https://butter.sonnet.io
- vGPU 3y agoHey, I just wanted to say that your “say hi” page is an insanely cool idea and I might take you up on that offer at some point :).
- rpastuszak 3y agoThanks, and yeah -- give it a go, it's a tonne of fun. Also, you can call me for a quick 3 minute rant if a longer call feels like a commitment. In fact, I just finished my first rant today!
- wrayjustin 3y agoI would be super interested in seeing engagement metrics for this, especially from organic, cold, leads.
- vGPU 3y agoWell, here would be the ones I’m interested in: the 3 minute rant would be perfect right now as I finish processing shitty family. The general chat with topics includes several that I personally am interested in, including photography and mental health. The offer to pair program with me to help me with a programming problem? Amazing. Though I’d feel too guilty about using that one personally when the vast majority of my coding problems can be solved by Google and sometimes screaming into a pillow. All in all, if I was looking for an employee, seeing this page would put that person at the top of the list for me because it gives off all the right vibes - team player, interested in helping others, well rounded, etc.
- rpastuszak 3y agoI'm not sure what qualifies as a cold lead here, but I've had ca. 150 calls so far. I reached out to people directly only twice with 50% success rate. This comment seemed to generate 1k visits to my site, from and 2 called booked for Tuesday. Most of my calls are 30m coffee chats (I'd say close to 90%). Rants are quite rare and people tend to cancel those last minute. My theory is behind this is that the decision to book a call is more likely to be driven by emotions. Rants rarely end up being rants. For instance, the first one I had ended up being a 2 hour discussion about life, privacy, cryptography, tech + a century-long and hemisphere-wide family history in English and Ukrainian. If you have any questions about this -- please let me know as I'm compiling an article for untested.sonnet.io
- Modified3019 3y agoSponsorblock was already mentioned, but also have a look at what DeArrow does, which is allow crowdsourced titles and title cards to remove the horrible ":O" face clickbait.
- rchaud 3y agoThere's already an extension that does that: Clickbait remover for YT (FF/Chrome) https://addons.mozilla.org/en-CA/firefox/addon/clickbait-remover-for-youtube/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-CA/firefox/addon/clickbait-rem...
- echelon 3y agoOne day we'll use AI to replace ads with anti-marketing. Ads for McDonalds replaced with obesity stats. Ads for goods rephrased to make the actors say, "you don't need it."
- hanselot 3y agoWhy would watching that add any value to the lives of anybody consuming that content? Why not just remove it entirely? The only people that would use it are the same people that already know those stats.
- tetris11 3y agoAnd one day they will use AI to place more covert ads.
- intelVISA 3y ago'One day'...
- Liquix 3y agothanks! the thumbnail trend has gotten really, really bad. any insight into why creators are hopping on the bandwagon? is there data they have access to which suggests switching to this type of thumbnail will increase engagement?
- langsoul-com 3y agoWhy only 16x speed? Was there some kind of technical limitation or it just felt like the best option?
- mattigames 3y agoYep technical limitation, the most you can speed the video element in Google chrome is 16x (the slowest is 0.07x)
- hunter2_ 3y agoI used to have a computer with an audio interface that had a wordclock input (BNC connector) and a huge rack mounted wordclock (Antelope Isochrone) to theoretically reduce jitter that a cheap internal crystal clock built into an interface might otherwise introduce. To work normally, the interface and external clock both needed to be set to the same thing (say, 48 or 192 kHz, or whatever you wanted). We quickly discovered that if the interface was set lower than the clock, any audio playback would be sped up and high pitch (and vice versa) -- not only playback from the DAW, but from anything, even YouTube videos and so forth. And of course the a/v sync was maintained, so the picture would also be sped up to match. I wonder if this effect could be completely virtualized as an audio driver, where you choose this middleware as the default output device in the OS, and it messes with the audio clock speed: essentially overclocking the upstream (OS) side whenever an ad is detected, and dropping samples (basically a rudimentary sample rate conversion) proportionately so the downstream (hardware) side never skips a beat. I don't know how an extension/userscript would be able to communicate with said middleware, but maybe there's a way. Aside: I wonder what would happen with live streams. Probably just periodic buffering, not from congestion but from the analog to digital conversion consuming the stream faster than it's being created. Theoretically a very miniscule version of this problem always occurs if the DAC on the production side is running slightly lower clock speed (say, 47999 Hz) than the ADC on the consumer side (say, 48001 Hz) and the player knows how to gracefully compensate to avoid occasional buffering (or buffering does occur but it's too brief for anyone to notice). Hmm.
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- eagleinparadise 3y agoI tried your extension but it wasn't able to activate in a Next14 project i'm working on... getting a hydration error.
- corn-dog 3y agoIs this my mobile view one? Yeah I’m aware of this error so I need to fix it. Is it an open source or public repo.? That would help a lot for bug fixing
- cassianoleal 3y agoAny chance that this technique can be added to iSponsorBlockTV? :) https://github.com/dmunozv04/iSponsorBlockTV https://github.com/dmunozv04/iSponsorBlockTV
- just_testing 3y agoWhen browsing the page for MobileView, I was very pleasantly surprised by the lack of a subscription option. Not because I don't think you should be payed for your hard work, but because the extension being free allows me to recommend to any of my students - some of which are very poor. Thanks!
- corn-dog 3y agoThat’s awesome feedback, thanks! Definitely get your students into it