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Maine becomes first state to decriminalize selling sex
- s1artibartfast 3y agoUnfortunately, this falls short of respecting bodily autonomy. >Gov. Janet Mills, a Democrat, signed a bill into law this week that will eliminate penalties for those who sell sex while leaving in place laws against the purchase of it.
- adrr 3y agoThat is so strange. Like legalizing drugs through allowing people to sell it but prosecuting the people who purchase it.
- lom 3y agoThat is not a fair comparison for so many reasons…
- adrr 3y agoHow so?
- serf 3y agowell, in the case of sex-trade it can be argued that the purchaser is ,generally speaking, in a better state-of-living than the seller. The reverse is, generally speaking, the case with regards to selling drugs. it's a matter of which party is thought to be more greatly victimized, in other words.
- yieldcrv 3y agothought to be is the primary achilles heel of these efforts they assume the sex workers have no agency and give them no voice in these proposals, opinions and legislation. “believe all women, except them”. many workers are saying “labor rights and harm reduction” and that thinly veiled eradication and weighing differences based on power dynamics does.not.help.
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- robbiep 3y agoThat’s a very puritanical view of the sex trade. In New South Wales prostitution has always been legal, including street crawlers, and for the protection of the sellers it is illegal to be a pimp. The view being the women have agency but pimping is predatory
- bruceb 3y ago"including street crawlers" Nothing says pro women than using a term like this.
- robbiep 3y agoWell, technically the term is used for the people who are looking to purchase services, so I’m not sure what sort of judgement you’re trying to apply, but thanks kindly for your 2c - the point being that you can buy sex off the street in NSW
- kortilla 3y agoBetter look up who it refers to before you whip out the indignation
- mock-possum 3y agoOoh ooh is it guys?
- kortilla 3y agoNo, it’s specifically the clients. Definitely predominantly men but it’s not a term for men specifically.
- adrr 3y agoStreet Crawler or Kerb crawler is the person looking to solicit prostitution. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerb_crawler https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerb_crawler
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- adrr 3y agoIs that true? Surveys show the top drugs as marijuana, cocaine(no crack), lsd, and ecstasy which are more party/social drugs. It’s not the “bad” drugs like crack, meth, heroin, or pcp. And there are plenty of victims in drug dealing. People get killed all the time and lots of children will never see their parents outside of visiting them in jail due to mandatory min sentencing. In terms of race for federal convictions for trafficking and dealing it’s mostly blacks and Hispanics that do all the time to feed America’s drug addiction. There’s the whole drug mule thing where cartels prey on people to be drug mules.
- vintermann 3y ago> Surveys show the top drugs as marijuana, cocaine(no crack), lsd, and ecstasy which are more party/social drugs. It’s not the “bad” drugs like crack, meth, heroin, or pcp. Surveys? As in asking people what they've used, and maybe how much? I can think of some reasons why prestigious/party drugs are well-represented there and gutter drugs aren't. It's safe to assume that most money in drugs is made on harmful use, if you define harmful use even remotely sensibly. This is the case for alcohol, tobacco and gambling, and although there is always going to be more uncertainty around illegal products, you can be pretty confident it's the case there too. This is why legalization isn't an easy fix. People running businesses that are harmful to their significant customers, know it. These industries will still attract gangsters in the sense of people that are OK with profiting from spreading misery, only instead of risking prison for it, they can openly build relationships to other powerful people, participate in lobbying etc.
- adrr 3y agoHow else would you determine drug usage in a country? You cant just randomly drug test a random cohort of the population. anecdotally, i have never had anyone try to sell me any “bad” drugs.
- gettodachoppa 3y ago>well, in the case of sex-trade it can be argued that the purchaser is ,generally speaking, in a better state-of-living than the seller. Maybe this applies to homeless street walkers. But the majority of prostitution I'm aware of (anecdotal, I know) is middle-class men who go to freelance call girls 10x wealthier than they are. The customer pays a several days' worth of his wages for 2h of fun. So I would say it can be argued that the purchaser is a bigger victim than the seller, considering the financial power dynamics.
- hammock 3y agoA bit like when usury used to be illegal. You can write a note (borrow money) but you can’t collect interest on notes from others
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- anjel 3y agoUS Usury laws were if not eliminated, substantially curtailed in th last 30 years. There used to be interest rate caps on consumer loans. Now we have Payday Loan Titans. In California, you can only charge a max of 10% interest if you want to seller-finance real estate. The way to charge more than 10% is to become a regulated bank which is non-trivial and capital-intense.
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- pyuser583 3y agoThis has been considered. You stop commerce by stopping demand, not supply.
- miley_cyrus 3y agoI have long advocated for this, and people always reject it out of hand!
- gizmo686 3y agoAre you intending to speak generally, because there are almost no markets where that is the way things work. I can't think of any other market that is restricted purely on the demand side, and the few markets I can think of with demand side enforcement as a major component, they do so because they are at the limit of what is practical on the supply side, not because they choose not to enforce supply side.
- michaelmrose 3y agoIt's true of illicit markets with a high ceiling for what buyers are willing to pay vs the requirements for sellers to engage in trade. People are willing to pay so much for drugs which are so cheap to produce that dealing with dealers does virtually nothing for consumption because rising prices inspire people to fill any gaps you poke in the supply chain. I would say sex is not dissimilar.
- roenxi 3y ago1) Generally the way commerce is stopped is first it is moved via a regulator, then the regulator squeezes it. See the medical market for example. 2) Sometimes we must refer to King Canute and the tide. The idea of "stopping demand" for prostitution seems like a long shot.
- lostlogin 3y agoHave you got an example of regulatory pressure working? Drugs, alcohol, sex, abortion. You make it illegal and you get the same behaviour with a whole load of bad add-ons.
- wiseowise 3y agoCould drugs be trafficked against their will and forced into modern life slavery? (Hint: you’re comparing people to objects)
- cwillu 3y agoIt's a great argument for a comprehensive set of workers' rights.
- mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y agoIf you insist on framing it as "buying sex is consuming people", then sure.
- pasquinelli 3y agoi wonder what happens if both parties claim to be the prostitute?
- halJordan 3y agoIf they're both selling sex then they're both buying it.
- pasquinelli 3y agoi was imagining a dispute between the parties, with both claiming to be the seller and that the other is the buyer.
- smelendez 3y agoWould this come up that often? It seems like an easier defense would be for the buyer to say there was no payment involved and hope the seller does the same to avoid having to testify.
- yieldcrv 3y agoits ridiculous people still have a hard-on for the nordic model. they just think "how clever! we solved it ya'll!" any effort rooted in the prohibition of sex work will harm workers, and these efforts are based on enacting their discomfort with men having increased access to transactional sex as a normal option. this model simply exacerbates trafficking by removing one of the main ways exploitation is reported at all - by workers confiding in customers they've built rapport with! it has to be harmonized as a labor issue, rooted in harm reduction. edit: there it is >“The point of this whole thing is to decrease the demand for commercial sex,” said Maine state Rep. Lois Reckitt, D., who sponsored the bill,
- justrealist 3y agoTrafficking and abuse is still a big problem in Amsterdam. There's no magic solution.
- yieldcrv 3y agocorrect, a labor rights issue. just like labor trafficking is still a big problem .... everywhere. tackling this as a commercial sex issue debilitates avenues for addressing labor rights issues.
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- briantakita 3y ago> False. Human labor trafficking receives high praise from the global ruling class for its excellent profitability. It is also an effective tool to blackmail willing & unwilling lawmakers, corporate heads, & officials to control policy.
- 111111IIIIIII 3y agoFair point. It is a fabulous means for the pursuit of both profit and power.
- bitwize 3y agoThis is how you do it. The johns are the ones who create the market for prostitution. Prostitutes, many of whom were forced into it, should not be criminalized. Jurisdictions where voluntary prostitution is legal to provide or procure, have increased rates of illegal sex trafficking compared to jurisdictions where it is illegal. Criminalizing it from the demand side has much the same effect as a total ban, while also protecting vulnerable sex workers.
- DangitBobby 3y agoI just don't buy that paying for sex should be criminal. And it takes two sides to make a market.
- gostsamo 3y agoYes, but in many places the prostitute is not a side in the transaction. Google human trafficking.
- mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y agoThis law will do nothing to combat human trafficking. The best ways to help human trafficking exist mainly in the places people are trafficked from, not to. Equal rights and access to education, suffrage and work for women is a good start. General societal development helps.
- gostsamo 3y agoGo implement them there. In the meantime, do not punish the victims here.
- ldoughty 3y agoThe goal of the bill is not about bodily autonomy... The article makes it clear that the goal is to stop penalizing people who are very often victims (of trafficking or circumstance). They are not trying to stop the trade, legalize the trade, etc... They are trying to make it so that those who sell their body are not 'locked' into the trade because they can't get a job, an apartment, etc. and escape the cycle of selling -> jail -> selling -> etc... Even if they get help, it's hard to continue your life if you can't find a job or sign a contract for a safe place to stay.
- rayiner 3y agoDecriminalizing selling sex is something social libertarians and sex-negative feminists can agree on. But the latter, unlike the former, don’t regard it as a half measure, or think about it in terms of “bodily autonomy.” They view the female prostitute as the victim of male aggression. It doesn’t make sense to punish the victim, but it does make sense to punish the perpetrator.
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- quickthrowman 3y agoYou’re responding to a poster called ‘ldoughty’, not Andrea Dworkin. Who said anything about sex-negative feminists (or social liberatians, for that matter)
- resolutebat 3y agoAs the GP points out, the fact that buying sex remains criminalized means that this is, indeed, a sex-negative approach.
- fdsio 3y agoThis approach is women-positive, not sex-negative. Here's an account of the awful reality of when prostitution is fully legalised: https://www.adoptnordicwa.org/uncategorized/insights-into-prostitution-by-former-receptionist-presents-harrowing-reality/ https://www.adoptnordicwa.org/uncategorized/insights-into-pr...
- rayiner 3y agoWhat is “bodily autonomy.”
- yes_really 3y agoThere is no principled reasoning from those politicians. The rule is basically "Sign any law that advantages women. Be neutral or against any law that advantages men." Ask these politicians how they are respecting men's body autonomy. They will look at you confused thinking "body autonomy" applies only to women or outright get angry and say you are arguing in bad faith.
- mola 3y agoYou just sent ppl to go argue in bad faith....
- Traubenfuchs 3y agoThis could create a weird dynamic where prostitutes are blackmailing their customers. Why are humans so weird about sex? What is the difference to a massage?
- wiseowise 3y agoSo you don’t see any difference between your wife giving a massage and having sex with someone?
- amanaplanacanal 3y agoCan’t speak for them, but mine is an adult and can make her own choices. I trust her judgement.
- wiseowise 3y agoYou didn’t answer my question. Would you react the same to both?
- amanaplanacanal 3y agoYes. I know some people are jealous types, or try to control what their partners do, but that’s not me. If she finds somebody else that she likes enough to have sex with I’m totally happy for her. More love is better.
- Traubenfuchs 3y agoThe wonders of non monogamy and separating sex, love and sex with love.
- bmacho 3y agoMarriage is about exclusive sex, you can't make an analogy with that. It wasn't me asked, but I personally wouldn't mind my exclusive masseur having sex with someone, but I would mind if he massaged someone else.
- NoMoreNicksLeft 3y agoHaha. That's pretty much identical to our "decriminalization" of drugs where we let people buy them, but leave the laws in place against those that sell.
- goolz 3y agoThis always cracks me up. The best part is, the same people who locked you up a few decades ago for bud are the ones making bankroll now on the “green rush” in all the medical marijuana states. My local dispensaries are run in the same manner the Walmart is, industrially. A fun exercise in futility is looking at the parent companies and looking at which billionaire or consulting exec is selling you 400% marked up crap. My point being: all it took were some good ol’ corporate profits to change that tune.
- mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y agoThis doesn't really work. It's been tried for years now in Norway, and prostitutes, while no longer defined as criminals, still have to avoid the police because their customers getting arrested means they lose money. And they're prostitutes, so aside from a small minority, they really need the money they make. Very few people become prostitutes if they have other options. They also don't get the same legal rights that workers in fully legitimised businesses do.
- saurik 3y agoI mean it is certainly better though, right? Losing money is way better than going to jail. I'd say that is "working" even if there are even better things to do. Like, it would be strange to think "I guess it didn't work so no need to have bothered".
- mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y agoDepends on whether they have a pimp or not, and how sociopathic the pimp is. At least in Norway, going to jail is a lot better than being physically abused for not making enough money.
- LorenPechtel 3y agoExperience shows it doesn't work. So long as it's an illegal marketplace you get all the problems of an illegal marketplace. Whether you go after the sellers or the buyers doesn't change the illicit nature of the situation. If you want to actually improve the situation you make the transaction legal and aboveboard.
- saurik 3y agoThat doesn't mean it "doesn't work", that just means it doesn't solve all the problems you want to have solved. Insisting this change "doesn't work" and thereby, what... should not have happened? means that a ton of people I don't want in jail end up in jail. And like, that's what you are thereby arguing for: you are saying this somehow doesn't work to actually fully protect people... so you'd rather the status quo remain and these people be charged with a crime? How about instead of saying "doesn't work" you say "not enough" or "what's next"?
- gremlinsinc 3y agoI feel like this is an upside down black market. In drugs you want to create marketplaces to control the flow of the substance. In sex you want to ban marketplaces, even if you allow purchases and selling because those basically are too close to human trafficking or pimps, though you could create body guard and check in services to ensure sex workers get to an appointment and get back home.
- howinteresting 3y agoThis is what is described in the industry as "legalization" aka the Nordic model, not "decriminalization" aka the New Zealand model.
- yieldcrv 3y agothat's conflating some things. this is just the nordic model, not legalization. legalization primarily has licenses, and is also frowned upon because its just parallel to a criminalized regime when not using the licenses.
- trynumber9 3y agoWell hold on then, why is it still illegal to buy sex from a consenting adult who isn't being coerced? What's the advantage to keeping that illegal? Demand doesn't evaporate because you declare it to be illegal. The sellers will still need to accomodate their buyers who - not wanting to be arrested - will prefer buying in areas where enforcement is lax with all the increased risk that entails.
- 111111IIIIIII 3y agoThe utterly debased logic probably involves something like "empowering" the sex workers to report only their least favorite customers.
- ldoughty 3y agoThe article seems to indicate that the goal is to stop double and triple penalizing sellers in the industry. The idea being that those on the selling side are often victims (of trafficking, abuse, no other choice, etc.).. and after they get caught, they become 'part of the system' and can't escape because no one will hire a criminal, or rent an apartment to a criminal, etc. Very similar to decriminalizing possession of drugs, or buying of drugs, but not the selling of drugs... Buyers are frequently victims of addiction, and ruining their life with criminal charges doesn't help them break the cycle The bill is not about trying to adjust the market, or to allow/accept prostitution, but to help victims of the trade.
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- trynumber9 3y agoI understand that argument for legalizing selling. But keeping the purchase of sex illegal means buyers will choose to buy sex in areas where they feel safe from the law. This will make people who have no choice but to sell sex operate in a less safe environment. If their goal is to protect victims then full legalization goes even further than this half-measure.
- zoklet-enjoyer 3y agoConsenting adults should be free to do as they please
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- 111111IIIIIII 3y agoThe transactional aspect is specifically to compensate for not doing as they please, so what are you talking about?
- seandoe 3y agoEngaging in a compensational transaction can please both parties.
- 111111IIIIIII 3y agoMaybe, or maybe they are risking their life, health, and dignity desperate to put a roof over their child's head for the night and you're profoundly ignorant or pretending to be.
- vitehozonage 3y agoMost of the working class is selling the majority of their waking life-hours under the same circumstances, I suppose you see that fundamental foundation of our society as coercion and slavery too if you are consistent? I don't see much difference with a tech worker being coerced to spent 8+ hours a day building repulsive advertising and surveillance technologies to put a roof over their head. People sell their soul, mind and body in different ways.
- 111111IIIIIII 3y ago> Most of the working class is selling the majority of their waking life-hours under the same circumstances, I suppose you see that fundamental foundation of our society as coercion and slavery too if you are consistent? Yes, but I'd choose another word than "foundation." > I don't see much difference with a tech worker being coerced to spent 8+ hours a day building repulsive advertising and surveillance technologies to put a roof over their head. People sell their soul, mind and body in different ways. Absolutely not. Your logic is vulgar. Transactional sex is a vice, so categorically different from software development. Furthermore, prostitution is a vice that undermines intimate sexual relations, both reproductive and otherwise. Family and intimacy mark a frontier of still-sacred relations that capital has thus far preserved in it's own interest. The nuclear family was wrought from villages as the smallest viable mobile labor reproduction unit. Society’s productive capacity straightforwardly depends on these sacred institutions. Software development threatens nothing of the sort. I can only imagine you are drinking libertarian kool aid, also a vice.
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- Georgelemental 3y agoYes, we must. Not every government regulation is is a cynical ploy to empower entrenched interests, despite the best efforts of said interests. Some long-standing norms exist for very good reason!
- hash872 3y agoBut lots of countries, including several developed ones, have legalized prostitution if the chart in this Wiki page is to be believed? If you include the Nordic model (as Maine appears to be implementing), this widens the number of countries to include like 8 developed ones? Are Spain, Finland, Poland, Portugal, Italy, the Netherlands and the UK suffering for either having selling sex decriminalized, or actually legalizing prostitution even if pimping remains illegal? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_law#Abolitionism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_law#Abolitionism
- yieldcrv 3y agothis conflates sex trade and sex trafficking, a common thing to do but the trend actually is to listen to people that don't conflate that, so that they can treat the trafficking issue as the labor rights issue that it is. everyone wants harm reduction. criminalized prostitution under the veil of stopping trafficking does not do that. the opposite on the other hand allows labor organizations to continue to help workers with increased avenues for help.
- Georgelemental 3y ago"Sex trade that doesn't end up harming vulnerable women" does not exist, has never existed, and cannot exist. Many governments have tried, and failed, because it is entirely contrary to human nature. Sex is the most intimate of acts, our deepest and oldest animal instinct. It cannot be modeled as an economic commodity exchanged between rational market actors.
- Simulacra 3y agoIn a lot of major cities, prostitution is largely ignored. One just have to look at the plethora of sketchy massage parlors. It is rare that someone is arrested for prostitution. It seems as though law-enforcement and society have tacitly agreed that so long as it is behind closed doors and doesn't get out of control, people are free to do what they want.
- asadotzler 3y agoTell that to the tens of thousands of girls arrested each year and charged for it.
- briantakita 3y agoWill this increase or decrease human sex trafficking?
- throwA29B 3y agoProbably increase, because demand for the "silent" sellers will increase.
- Minor49er 3y agoThis is an important question, but the answer is tough. Trafficking takes on so many forms that aren't officially recognized or reported. Despite the progress made by governments and organizations in the last several years, quantifying trafficking is still flakey
- Mizoguchi 3y agoI had a roomate who was dating a former dancer/escort. I remember she telling us how the girls in the business were trapped in this drug - sex - money - drug - sex vicious cycle, some owed more money than they could make (which was a lot, at least compared to what I was making as an entry level engineer), so it was virtually impossible for them to quit.
- ThePowerOfFuet 3y agoI bet H-1B workers in the US feel similarly trapped.
- ProllyInfamous 3y agoI was this STUPID roommate, once. She "was retired." To quote my ex, "I have an expensive lifestyle" — as she unretired herself and left me sick. Never again — the Romans were right in stripping SWers of their citizenship.
- LorenPechtel 3y agoBut note that it's the drugs that are trapping them, not the lifestyle. I do agree there is a problem with the easy money trapping people but I don't think that's enough to warrant making it illegal.
- throwA29B 3y agoWas/is there ever a precedent of punishing both buyers and sellers? How did/does it fare?
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- anonyfox 3y agoWhy is this a thing in America to begin with? Sex markets do exist no matter what and have been forever. In Order to really get a handle on some bad side effects and improve everyone’s life, the first step is accepting reality and decriminalize it. Then introduce protection laws for sex workers and make them pay taxes, like everyone else. With regulations and getting real data every action can be tremendously more effective than criminalized (= uncontrolled) black markets. Even Al Capone was ultimately arrested for tax issues, everything else was not provable in court
- vladvasiliu 3y ago> Why is this a thing in America to begin with? Probably the same reason why it's a thing in many places across the world, even in parts of "progressive" Europe. However, I do also think that making this legal would help more effectively fight some issues surrounding sex work, such as violence, human trafficking, etc. I think this to be the case for drugs, too.
- 111111IIIIIII 3y ago> getting real data every action Libertarians Gone Wild in this thread lmao
- rkagerer 3y agoTIL there are legal brothels in Nevada, the IRS briefly operated one (through a Trustee) but failed to obtain a county license, and then was duped into selling it back to the original owner at a fraction of the price. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Conforte#Forfeiture https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Conforte#Forfeiture
- LorenPechtel 3y agoYup, while they aren't problem-free they seem to be a lot less of an issue than the illicit stuff. Also, here in Las Vegas outcall prostitution is quasi-legal. The outcall organizers make it very hard for police stings and the result is so long as they keep their noses clean otherwise (the old adage of commit only one crime at a time) the police ignore it. It's been a long time since I've heard of a case of trouble from it. (But I've heard of multiple cases of trouble from bar pickups in that time.) I'm sure not everything makes the news--but that applies to both prostitutes and bar pickups.
- f6v 3y agoThe weirdest thing in all this debate is that selling yourself for porn is perfectly legal. How is prostitution different is beyond me.
- stefncb 3y agoI've always been confused by that too, how does a camera being there change anything? Objectively, selling yourself and being filmed sounds strictly worse from the no prostitution point of view.
- throwawaaarrgh 3y agoFirst amendment. It mostly comes down to obscenity, not prostitution. Also People v Freeman, which makes the distinction that porn merely pretends to be prostitution, because whats actually going on is a business venture to produce a media product that just happens to include hardcore sex and the performers are paid.
- ProllyInfamous 3y agoCommunicable diseases.
- sacnoradhq 3y agoAnd if you involve a camera, then it's legal for everyone.
- salad-tycoon 3y agoRead this on another thread. Pretty horrifying on legal brothels. https://nordicmodelnow.org/2018/07/01/working-as-a-receptionist-in-a-legal-brothel-prostitution-is-anything-but-a-normal-job/ https://nordicmodelnow.org/2018/07/01/working-as-a-reception... Note, I’m linking the story not the Nordic model. I don’t have an opinion on that yet.
- ss1996 3y agoEverything mentioned in that arictle isn't a failure of legal prostitution. It's a failure of that specific brothel and of the Australian government for not doing anything about it. In other words, those issues would be present even if prostitution was illegal. Legalizing prostitution didn't cause those issues. Legal prostitution isn't a panacea, just as, say legalizing weed, isn't. It's harm reduction and it's the first step in the right direction. Smart policies need to be made and excuted. Also the author says "The media glamorises prostitution and presents the illusion that it’s sexually liberating for women, and sex industry lobbyists claim that it’s just regular work. For a long time I accepted this without question." I have never seen anyone glamorizing sex work and say it's liberating. Porn, yes, but never prostitution.
- RagnarD 3y agoMeanwhile, prostitution is completely legal in the entirety of New Zealand, Germany (since WW2!), the Netherlands, and likely other countries. It isn't the proper role of government to interfere with consensual actions between adults.
- bigfryo 3y agoProstitution would be legal except for the female vote.. it's always the female vote that votes down and votes against the fun of males
- throwawaaarrgh 3y agoYou must be a lot of fun at parties
- yes_really 3y agoRemember the first thing women did when they got the right to vote in the US was to ban alcohol.
- voiceofmyown 3y agopeople here asking why this is a bad thing. For one, it is pushing people from "low socioeconomical backgrounds" into a life where everyone else, besides those calling prostitution "sex work" (but also many of these hypocrites), is deeply despising them on a very basic level, which no orwellian newspeak will compensate for. Then of course, most of these people will be heavily abused, and it will be ignored since, you know, "papers are ok"..
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- naveen99 3y agoLogically, complete legal commercialization of selling sex would immediately show up in premarital and marital contracts.