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Reddit CEO tells employees that subreddit blackout ‘will pass’
- minimaxir 3y agoBefore the blackout, many subreddits hinted at extending the blackout indefinitely if Reddit is being adversarial. This seems adversarial.
- jtode 3y agoSeems like someone determined to finish the task his masters sent him to do.
- kibwen 3y agoExtending the blackout indefinitely has now become a coordinated action via /r/ModCoord (which is the also the source of the list of blacked out subreddits that people are using), with an optional "solidarity mode" that involves blacking out one day a week in perpetuity (which they're calling "Touch Grass Tuesdays"): https://old.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/148ks6u/indefinite_blackout_next_steps_polling_your/ https://old.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/148ks6u/indefinit...
- mr_00ff00 3y agoThe irony of organizing a blackout to teach Reddit a lesson while organizing it on a subreddit.
- mrits 3y agoIt isn't irony at all. Reddit gets almost zero revenue from the sub organizing it. People aren't protesting Reddit in general, but a policy of reddit.
- mr_00ff00 3y agoIt’s not about revenue. As people have mentioned already, the CEO said the blackout has had almost no revenue impact. it’s funny to create a protest and hoping for change by showing Reddit that the community can walk away…and then using reddit to organize it. You are basically showing you can’t think of any good alternatives to organizing or chatting with people. So you will continue to use Reddit, even during a protest specifically about not using reddit. “we will leave you if you treat us badly” and then also “I have to use your product cause I can’t find anything else.” Doesn’t work well together.
- kibwen 3y ago...Except that /r/ModCoord does have other venues, like the Discord linked in the sidebar. They mirror announcements to Reddit because that's the only place that's guaranteed to reach everyone involved, who are on Reddit by definition.
- mr_00ff00 3y agoSure, but shouldn’t they all not be on Reddit by definition?
- George83728 3y agoIf they don't need reddit, then they should stop using it to demonstrate that point. > "I'm not addicted, I can quit anytime I want." > "Okay then, prove it and quit today." > "....No."
- FemmeAndroid 3y ago> If they don't need reddit, then they should stop using it to demonstrate that point. Why wouldn’t you use every available, easy to use mechanism to broadcast a message? Clearly the actual organizing is happening on a variety of channels including Discord.
- mr_00ff00 3y agoBecause the message is “don’t use Reddit” Use every available and easy mechanism, unless your protest is about one of them.
- cpeterso 3y agoThe irony is that there is no viable alternative platform for the mods to organize on, demonstrating that Reddit has the market position to set high prices if they want to.
- mrits 3y agoIt doesn't take an intellectual giant to realize they are organizing on Discord.
- smsm42 3y agoThis sounds like finding ways to fold without it looking like they folded. The question is simple - can they live with the new situation or not? If they are willing to, then protesting on Tuesdays is not going to do much. If they are not, then they are not on every day, not only Tuesday. I don't endorse either side here, but looking realistically, it's either win - Reddit changes their behavior to more acceptable - or loss - Reddit doesn't. Solidarity Tuesdays are just a form of the loss where people still pretend it's not lost yet.
- kibwen 3y agoFor reference, 93% of the responses there so far are for indefinite blackout, and only 7% are for weekly blackouts.
- wlonkly 3y agoThere are a handful of subreddits (for example, one for recovering alcoholics, one for legal advice) that have decided that their value to the community is higher than the value of staying closed. So I think if it does get extended then the eventual outcome is that "general" subreddits will remain closed, and those dealing with, for lack of a better phrase, vulnerable communities, will show solidarity with weekly blackout days instead.
- jmclnx 3y agoFunny you linked old.reddit, I find the new version unusable via firefox (I do not do mobile).
- EA-3167 3y agoFrom Reddit's perspective overall this is a terrible idea, but from Huffman's perspective it's purely rational. If he has to walk this back it's probably not compatible with his continued tenure after all, the question of why this was done so hastily and rudely would inevitably undermine his leadership. If he just barrels ahead though, and prays that the addictions of mods and users are greater than their pride/desire to have a functional site, then he can possibly survive. It's not as though there's a third choice, he can't realistically get rid of the mods and replace them, then expect that to not blow up in his face. He can't walk this back, and he's doubled down on libeling the dev of Apollo for example. "Stay the course and hope everyone just gets over it" is his best option, having already sunk into the quicksand. IMO of course.
- seanosaur 3y ago> he can't realistically get rid of the mods and replace them, then expect that to not blow up in his face I'm not so sure about that. I would be very surprised if there was a high % of redditors that know / care about the mods or mod system. This could be the cynic in me but I bet he could eject all the mods tomorrow, replace them with more faceless accounts, and the vast majority of reddit's userbase would not see a difference. Those that have been around the site for a while would notice and feel the change and not be happy about it, but we're most likely talking about a very small single-digit % of the userbase.
- EA-3167 3y agoI don't think the problem with ditching the existing mods for new ones has much to do with how users would perceive the shift. You have to ask how the hell Reddit would vet that number of replacements in any way, how they'd find the required number of able replacements, and not just people who would (through incompetence or malice) run things into the ground. That's doubly true for the mega-subs which genuinely require a LOT of constant moderation, specialized automated tools, and so on. That doesn't seem like a feasible path to me, and I think if it was remotely possible it would have already happened. The only way it COULD work is to get rid of the volunteer mod system and replace it with paid mods... and I don't think Reddit has the funds for that.
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- Krasnol 3y ago/r/de, THE German sub has extended till Sunday.
- MisterBastahrd 3y agoOne of the fun things about reddit is that if mods decide to extend it indefinitely, users are free to create their own subreddits and move their conversations there. Any mod who thinks they're ultimately important in the grand scheme of things is deluding themselves.
- adamc 3y agoI don't think that's true at all. Users can certainly create new subreddits, but new, compelling subreddits usually require... committed mods. Where are they going to come from, and why wouldn't they also care about these changes that make modding much worse? It's essentially an empty threat.
- jtode 3y agoNo individual is all that important, but collectively, a bunch of individuals are extremely powerful. A bunch of angry individuals can destroy quite a lot in a short period of time. The individuals that are deluding themselves are the very few individuals at the top of this scheme.
- bamfly 3y agoI wonder how many of the people coordinating the blackout sent the "challenge accepted" meme to one another, on reading this quote. It was sure the first thing that popped into my head, on reading it.
- jtriangle 3y ago"We can remain r*tarded longer than they can remain solvent"
- activiation 3y ago> I am sorry to say this, but please be mindful of wearing Reddit gear in public. Some folks are really upset, and we don’t want you to be the object of their frustrations. LoL
- ortusdux 3y agohttps://knowyourmeme.com/memes/are-we-the-baddies https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/are-we-the-baddies
- EA-3167 3y agoHans... they've got snoos on them.
- exitb 3y agoOnly said to make the protesters appear crazy.
- henryfjordan 3y ago[flagged]
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- xeromal 3y agoI'm will to start a dialog on this assertion. There are a lock of gang violence and suicides but what about school shoots? Seems like a uniquely American problem even though the number might not meet your criteria.
- nivekney 3y agoinb4 paid actors coming up
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- QuarterRoy 3y agoI think he went about this completely in the wrong way and comes off as arrogant but on this I agree. Many subs that didn’t go dark still seem to have plenty of participants and people need their digital crack. I don’t see this being a digg moment for Reddit.
- ugjka 3y agoThe problem isn't that no one can create a Reddit clone, the problem is that no one can scale like Reddit and do it at continuous loss just to be dominant
- dragonwriter 3y ago> The problem isn't that no one can create a Reddit clone, the problem is that no one can scale like Reddit and do it at continuous loss just to be dominant Well, anyone with enough money to burn can, but most who could probably can find other, better ways to burn the money.
- ugjka 3y agoThat's what i meant, because Reddit still is running at loss not profit
- lawn 3y agoNo, the problem with a Reddit clone isn't technical. It's getting the network effect that's difficult. And as much as we nerds want to believe, the best technical solution isn't always what wins.
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- hopefulrabbit 3y agoGot a chuckle from him addressing his employees with a "Hi Snoos". Am I the only one surprised how hard they are doubling down on this?
- QuarterRoy 3y agoHis job is to double down on getting Reddit public with a successful IPO. Investors want their $ back out of Reddit
- almost_usual 3y agoWith all the negative publicity this IPO is DOA. Not unless they push it out year(s) and do PR. Damage is already done.
- brutal_chaos_ 3y agodoubtful. if the blackout doesn't stay, the issue will be forgotten about. The majority of users won't see a difference for awhile, probably until a bit after Reddit goes public and makes the API switch. and by then investors will have pulled money out, moderators won't be able to moderate, and Reddit will die slowly (or quickly, depending on spam volume after the switch).
- randomdata 3y agoAn IPO is the least of his concerns right now. It is clear they are on the verge of bankruptcy and are panicking, desperately trying to find some source of revenue to keep the lights on. In the past they would find more investors, but investors have had enough.
- mvdtnz 3y agoHe's not wrong that it will pass. Getting to this stage was a big mistake but doubling down now seems viable to me. I don't see this as Reddit's Digg moment - but maybe I'm wrong. It's definitely a big bet.
- throwaway202351 3y agoI'm so happy that this Reddit stuff is giving HN something to talk about other than ChatGPT.
- kobalsky 3y agountil you mentioned it though
- southwesterly 3y agoYou just lost the GameGPT
- TheFreim 3y agoIf the blackout is only for two days then they're right, but if they continue indefinitely it could force a change (reddit is currently unusable since all but one sub I enjoy is gone, if it was gone indefinitely then reddit would be indefinitely out of the picture for me).
- adrr 3y agoThey’ll just replace the mods if the popular subreddits go longer than 2 days.
- FranzFerdiNaN 3y agoGood luck finding hundreds of new mods.
- MuffinFlavored 3y agoThey can pay for it with their increased revenue from the new API pricing /s
- lambdas 3y agoI don’t doubt they’ll have people lining up out the door to be mods… whether someone you picked with zero vetting because you’re in dire straits is going to be a good mod though is very doubtful. I can see things going very sour if they choose to replace long standing mods.
- fknorangesite 3y ago> someone you picked with zero vetting As opposed to the current state of affairs, where it is someone you didn't pick, also with zero vetting.
- zamalek 3y agoReddit mods are causally picked by the users. If they don't tow the users' line you're looking at even more drama (there has already been tons of mod drama in the past). The slightest hint of power hungering is enough to set off a wildfire across the site, so anyone that is lining up is probably unqualified to begin with. The current set of volunteer mods are by far Reddit's largest asset - especially on the major subs.
- mr_sturd 3y agoI do hope a good chunk of mods extend the blackouts indefinitely.
- BoorishBears 3y ago[flagged]
- darkwizard42 3y agoI feel like maybe you mean this in good faith, but I think you might misunderstand Reddit. The site is moderated by volunteers (who this "extremely rich" company doesn't compensate) who help curate the information you then find useful. So perhaps when they feel the changes being made make their job harder (making unusable applications they use to assist in moderation and generally support due to the said big company's inability to make any progress on their asks), they withhold their help in keeping those communities moderated.
- BoorishBears 3y agoYou think wrong. The disconnect comes from the fact you're applying rational logic to an irrational mob. Mod tools were going to be made worse, sure, but what really drove up the frenzies masses was 3rd party apps. This is predicated by the app debacle, not the mod tools. The app debacle is (again very rich) app developers who had margins of like 99.999% getting shut down. It's too bad. I use some of those apps. It's a shame Reddit wants them to be shut down or made relatively expensive. - At the end of the day it's complete and utter nonsense that unpaid mods get to slam their fists in the pie because they don't like what the chef is doing. They should have walked out. Leave Reddit unmoderated and let it go to the dogs (or force Reddit to actually have to gasp pay for mods). Instead they decided that their will is ultimate because the de-facto person who becomes a Reddit moderator is not to be trusted with any sort of actual power.
- Goronmon 3y agoThey don't deserve to have the power to shut down sources of useful information because a company had a spat with some extremely rich app developers. Why shouldn't the moderators have that power? They are the ones maintaining the subreddits they control. If the users don't like them having that power, they are free to move to a different subreddit with moderators they agree with. Nothing is stopping them.
- Simulacra 3y agoI went to Reddit, the page was black, so I just went somewhere else. I still don't see how this is going to motivate anyone to do anything.
- Timon3 3y ago> I went to Reddit, the page was black, so I just went somewhere else It's that part.
- rvz 3y agoSee. They don't care at all. Just another day of internet outrage.
- smsm42 3y agoAs I predicted here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36192312#36192983 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36192312#36192983 they thing it's a blip on the radar and will soon pass and everybody would just consent to the new reality. The thought of their way not being the right way is not being considered and there would be no changes. They plan to just wait it out and count on redditors to fold and endure what they must. We'll see if they are right.
- TheFreim 3y agoI don't understand why reddit didn't respond to the initial criticism by decreasing the pricing/demands and just slowly implementing what they want over time. Doing it all at once seemed like a silly move.
- graypegg 3y agoI think they would’ve done that if they wanted to build Reddit more, but it seems like they’re betting on going public so the people that want to can take their exit.
- HDThoreaun 3y agoThey want to IPO very soon. Don't have the luxury of rolling this out over a year plus.
- willis936 3y agoWere they surprised by the news that they will IPO very soon? I suppose there was nothing they could have done to avert this issue 2-3 years ago.
- smsm42 3y agoNot so silly if they are sure they'll crush the opposition. If they are convinced the boycotts are powerless, then the sooner they demonstrate it, the better.
- crznp 3y agoReddit's main asset is its community, so it is odd to cast the community as their opposition.
- smsm42 3y agoLooks like they either don't see the community as an asset, or don't see the protestors as part of the community. In either case, they do not think the opinion of the people protesting matters enough to change anything.
- sf4lifer 3y agoDo MODs lose money during blackout. If no, what's the incentive to bring them back quickly?
- sarchertech 3y agoMods aren’t paid, so no. There are mods based around commercial interests that might have some financial incentive—for example if you are an author and you moderate a subreddit for your books.
- anthonybsd 3y agoReddit mods are all volunteers....
- Night_Thastus 3y agoIn the end, this "blackout" will do about as much as a change.org petition. Even if some subreddits choose to extend the time period (even indefinitely) Reddit has no reason to really care - most of them are so small they don't 'move the needle'. I appreciate that the decision Reddit is making and their justification both seem poor. But the response seems like people are missing where and how Reddit makes its money.
- evouga 3y agoLeading up to the blackout, there were multiple threads on Reddit asking for alternatives to visit instead. None of those threads received any non-joke replies. The only thing that will make Reddit change course is serious competition. Probably not even that, since as long as the exodus happens after the IPO, it's the public that will be left holding the bag and not the investors.
- Night_Thastus 3y agoOnly the smallest number of users really, truly care about any of this. The vast majority, 99%+ just use the site casually and don't follow any of this drama. They will use the site regardless of what goes on. Even among those who are disgruntled, many of them will just come back to Reddit anyways, because it's large enough that it has a huge chunk of content that those alternative simply don't have.
- almost_usual 3y agoInvestors on hopium, an IPO now is DOA.
- ddtaylor 3y agoLouis Rossman was right about this in his video where he said "going dark for two days is actually saying the quiet part out loud, which is that you're willing to put up with this shit 363 days a year"
- randomdata 3y agoTranslation: A large round of layoffs are coming soon.
- Rebelgecko 3y agoThey just did layoffs (although they're still like 3x bigger than they were 4 years ago)
- robertoandred 3y agoAnd clearly third-party apps are the source of their money troubles.
- adamc 3y agoIf I had a job at reddit, I'd be shopping my resume.
- api 3y agoNone of this will do a thing if people aren't willing to leave, and unfortunately I doubt many will. The most powerful force in computing is laziness. People will trade freedom, autonomy, privacy, security, ownership of their own works, anything for ease of use.
- perfectstorm 3y agocan someone help me understand what's the core of the issue is? is it because they are now charging for APIs which used to be free? i hope that's the not the issue because that's not a sustainable business. third party apps can grow revenue using Reddit's contents and Reddit don't see a penny from them. if the issue is the amount Reddit charge per call, why can't those third party apps charge their users more based on the API charge? the whole thing seems bit immature from both sides.
- mulmen 3y agoThis has been discussed at length but I will summarize for you. Reddit is charging exorbitant fees for API access and they gave an unreasonably short time to adapt. 30 days is not enough time to completely change the business model of an app, so 3p apps are shutting down. Customers have already paid for annual subscriptions to Apollo for example so the app has to keep supporting those customers or refund them. But they will cost millions just in the first year with the new API fees. The business can't survive like that, so it has to shut down.
- perfectstorm 3y agoi see. i didn't realize it was a 30 day notice which is pretty short.
- krisoft 3y ago> if the issue is the amount Reddit charge per call, why can't those third party apps charge their users more based on the API charge? As a first approximation yes, the issue is the amount Reddit charges per call. The perception is that they are way overcharging for the calls, because the real message is that they don't want 3rd party apps to exist anymore.
- wvenable 3y agoThis is a weird take. You're saying that 3rd party apps should just charge their users whatever is necessary to satisfy Reddit's pricing? As a user, I don't feel like that's a viable solution. Ultimately it's the users who pay and not the app makers. How much is Reddit worth to pay for only on mobile and with a degraded (no NSFW) experience?
- shadowgovt 3y agoOh, that's a fascinating question. My prediction is one of two things will happen: 1) His prediction will come true 2) The mods who set these subreddits private will discover that private is way more palatable, enjoyable, and easy to manage than public and will leave it there. ... at which point, either new subreddits come along to pick up the public (with the former subreddits slowly collapsing into an elite or old-guard) or Reddit will drift into irrelevance, replaced by some other public gathering location.
- throwaway106382 3y agoI deleted my account - scrubbed all of my comments and content first - and I've always blocked ads on reddit anyway. A two day blackout won't do much unless it extends indefinitely, but actually hurt reddit in their bottom line and they might actually think twice.
- InCityDreams 3y agoSorry Ukraine, I'll donate as previously, but sure am missing a lot of tips of who I can donate to that came from the r/UkraineWarVideoReport (amongst others). Unbelievable - but screw you reddit. Youtube works fine, and united24 is still there. Such a shame as I was really getting into reddit - I thought it was pretty cool.
- fdsalkwjvalkj 3y agoWe saw the same thing play out with Twitter. You had a large quantity but minority percentage of users upset with changes XYZ, they left the platform for mastadon/bluesky/whatever, and Twitter lived on. What does moving on look like? My guess is reassigning moderators of popular subs to big-corp sympathizers. Or maybe making the private feature a paid one (my personal favorite because it's a little petty). But it could be as organic as users making clones of the popular subreddits. If you look to Digg vs Reddit-- Digg fundamentally changed the experience of a lot of users in an in your face sort of way. The Reddit changes may make it a fundamentally different platform now, but for the vast majority of users, they won't notice.
- a2tech 3y agoI don't know, Twitter looks like its dying, and not slowly. They're hemorrhaging money (income is WAY down by all reports and it wasn't making money even before) and it seems like most reasonable people have left. Musk seems to be overseeing a pond that is getting smaller and more toxic by the day.
- cabinguy 3y agoEveryone should move to digg.
- InCityDreams 3y ago[dupe]
- 420420420 3y agoReddit refugee here, can someone explain why moving everyone to kbin.social is not being talked about?
- danaris 3y agoTo some extent, the answer to that question is circular: it's not being talked about, because no one knows about it. No one knows about it, because it's not being talked about. As we've seen with various other social media implosions in the recent past, a big part of what makes a migration successful is exactly what made the social media service successful in the first place: network effects. Get enough people on board, have them spread it to their own circles, and you'll hit a critical mass and be able to migrate to the new service with most of the community intact. Unfortunately, far too often the conversation around where to migrate to looks like the XKCD "Standards" comic [0]. [0] https://xkcd.com/927/ https://xkcd.com/927/
- TechBro8615 3y agoThe bulk of Reddit mods have so much of their identity riding on their moderation power that there is basically nothing Reddit could say or do to lose their free labor. Yes, there is a long tail of selfless reddit mods just doing their janitorial duties in some smaller subreddits, but most reddit traffic is directed to subreddits moderated by stereotypical mods whose physical stature resembles the shape of their place in the bell curve of traffic. They will never surrender that power because it's all they have going for them.
- adamc 3y agoWell, I may be boycotting reddit forever, I guess. Had enough.
- unethical_ban 3y ago[flagged]
- xyst 3y agoReddit CEO's fragile ego was hurt during the AMA and his personal account was downvoted into oblivion. All he had to do was keep his mouth shut and tank a couple of news cycles of bad press. This 2 day moratorium is now much more likely to become a multi-week protest/blackout. Reddit board should look at issuing a "no confidence" vote on this guy.
- willis936 3y agoOffer Selig the position.
- data-ottawa 3y agoSelig acquihire to head of iOS/mobile dev could have been a good move.
- spike021 3y agoSelig would still be at the whims of product/marketing/the board so I'm not sure that'd be good at all.
- neals 3y agoMoved from Digg to Reddit back in the day. Used to love it, now it's more of a habit. Also, if you really look at it, it's just 9gag with extra's that I don't use. The way down is here, time for something new. I've been trying mastodon but it doesn't scratch any itches, I just want to read other peoples comments and thoughts and learn from them. I actually don't even comment myself that much.
- seydor 3y agoOf course it will, like all the previous reddit hysterics which were quickly forgotten. I m not sure if people remember that net neutrality Did not pass, and yet the world did not end. The blackout is so ill-thought and self-limiting. If they keep the subs down, my subreddits will start attracting users. The mods have no option but to end the strike, because they are too addicted to their power. If they insist to take this further, reddit will see it as a wonderful opportunity to shake up the community which has been stagnant for years. There is nothing unique about the subs that are down
- xcjs 3y agoThe lack of regulated net neutrality is still something to be concerned about if you care about accessing sites and services at will without additional costs, limitations, or outright blocks. The only reason a large effect hasn't been noticed is the protections offered at some state levels that enforce neutrality in practice nationwide (assuming you're in the United States).
- legitster 3y agoI would love nothing more than if actual independent communities actually had to build and maintain their own internet spaces again. I do not miss the days of forums - but there has to be something between the two, right? But... unfortunately the CEO is probably right. Reddit is first and foremost a community of addicts. No one is actually threatening to spin off their own superior community space. (The closest we see are people trying to make knockoff platforms). Unless 100 new websites spin up and take away all of the community content, the addicts will just come back.
- pseudalopex 3y agoWhy do you not miss the days of forums?
- TechRemarker 3y agoHe seems to be counting on it lasting only 2 days, which if the case, is easy to ignore. 2 days was presumably based on concessions from Reddit but since not the case, then hopefully as many subreddits as possible will hold out as long as possible, as the only thing that will affect change is continuing to hit their financial bottom line. If only a few continue to protest it becomes much easier for Reddit to ignore. Appears it's in mods hands at this point.
- machdiamonds 3y agoThere was an idea floating around here about users downvoting en masse as a form of protest. While this could certainly disrupt the algorithm and content quality, it wouldn't require a massive participation. However, identifying and banning accounts engaged in systematic downvoting would be quite straightforward. A more subversive approach could be to invert the system - upvote low quality posts and downvote high quality ones.
- controlname 3y agoFor me, the recent goings-on at Reddit have made me fully acknowledge that this is a fundamentally different Reddit from the one I first started visiting over a decade. Change is inevitable. It therefore made it a surprisingly easy decision to uninstall the Reddit third-party apps (the devs who I am thankful to for making Reddit usable again) and I haven't missed it at all.
- Havoc 3y agoDoes Huffman have supervoting shares? Little bit surprised he's still CEO given how tone deaf this is being handled. >The peasants are restless but don't worry they throw tantrums often and have short memories. Fuck 'em cause advertising money is still rolling in Also quite amused that he thinks a couple of mod tool improvements are the solution.
- predictabl3 3y ago>Starting last night, about a thousand subreddits have gone private. comforting to know he lies to his employees the same way he lies to would-be partners and users reddark currently shows over 8000 subreddits as "dark" and that is under-counting. It uses the API to determine status, but only checks from a list of subs that notified of their plan to go dark.
- HatchedLake721 3y agoMods are joining forces for an indefinite blackout https://www.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/148ks6u/indefinite_blackout_next_steps_polling_your/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/148ks6u/indefinit...
- bastard_op 3y agoThe one sure way to make a point, simply move to another platform. Let them die with their "passing".
- monksy 3y agoModCoord Response: (Suggestion for indefinite blackout) https://www.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/148ks6u/indefinite_blackout_next_steps_polling_your/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/148ks6u/indefinit... Some subs have moved from a limited time blackout to indefinite (r/Chicago and r/ChicagoMeetup have gone this route)
- friend_and_foe 3y agoHe's not wrong. How many times has reddit abused it's users knowing that they'll just take it because they are addicted? The only thing that will get results is if these subreddits go private permanently. But they won't. They don't have it in them to.
- kojeovo 3y agoI can't get past the "snoos"
- lee101 3y ago[dead]