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Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark
- bdcp 3y agoMight need some place to see which big subreddits are NOT participating
- moffkalast 3y agohttps://www.reddit.com/best/communities/1/ https://www.reddit.com/best/communities/1/ Looks like it's 5/10 of the ones with over 30M subscribers and 9/23 over 20M, I was actually surprised that it's only that many in total for the 30M group. I presume some might still make the decision given yesteray's attempt at blatant slander by Spez.
- BizarroLand 3y agoI've noticed that Askreddit seems to be conspicuously absent from this list. I also wonder about the moderators of the ones that aren't going dark, many larger subs are moderated by a select group of the same people more or less.
- deminature 3y agoPissing off the people doing thankless free labor to keep your subreddits moderated and site functional seems like a poor choice. This is going to be quite an event when it kicks off Monday.
- stavros 3y agoI used to moderate a lot of large subreddits back in the day, and don't understand why the mods don't just shut them down indefinitely, until reddit capitulates. What, I won't be doing a bunch of free labor for a multimillion dollar company while being called a dictator all day? Yes please! Reddit would probably have to step in and start removing moderators, digging their hole even deeper.
- deminature 3y agoDepending on the outcome of the AMA with spez tomorrow [1], and how much it ends up inflaming the situation, that may well happen. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/144ho2x/join_our_ceo_tomorrow_to_discuss_the_api/ https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/144ho2x/join_our_ce...
- stavros 3y agoOh wow, I didn't know about an AMA. I need to get some popcorn.
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- reuben364 3y agoI saw rumblings about the AMA maybe beating the most downvoted "Pride and accomplishment" comment. Thinking of that I just yesterday got Diablo 4 and realized just how normalized always online, microtransactiony BS has become. Maybe Reddit too will not so slowly boil the frog.
- Implicated 3y agoThey're going to dodge everything. That "AMA" will be nothing more than a PR-fest of non-answers and dancing akin to one tech CEO or another in congressional testimony.
- Cthulhu_ 3y agoWell, one part of the subreddits say they'll be closed for 24 or 48 hours, others have said they'll be closed until this has been resolved. Likewise, several major apps (I know of Apollo and RIF) will shut down on the 30th, before the API changes take effect. I'm sure some people will relent and use the official app / website after that, but others will just quit. I'm not sure yet myself, it'll suddenly make a big gap in my idle mode browsing. I'm sure there'll be other things I can get on with though.
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- deminature 3y agoGetting rid of moderators turns reddit into 4chan. If you want that, fine, but there's already a website for unfiltered hate speech and spam.
- hn_thrwn 3y agoJust the current power tripping ones who think they own the site.
- gymbeaux 3y agoIt’s incredibly frustrating when you take the time to write something out- something that benefits others and does nothing for you, like sharing your experience or knowledge- only to have the comment removed for one bullshit reason or another. I have never written hate speech or anything racist or in that vein on Reddit, yet I’ve been censored and banned so many times by what I can only assume are children (or children at heart) with too much free time on their hands. I was a mod for a large subreddit for years and not once did I feel the need to ban anyone. The downvote system is pretty effective- the comments and posts that are downvoted enough, and it doesn’t take much, are hidden. There. The commenter retains their right to free speech, and doesn’t get frustrated that they were moderated/censored/punished for expressing themselves, and if the “community” decides it’s a “bad” comment, it’s hidden- effectively deleted as far as anyone who is truly prone to clutching pearls is concerned. That being said, my mental health is way better now that all my accounts have been banned from subreddits I liked and I’m essentially pushed off of Reddit to healthier activities such as touching grass.
- flangola7 3y agoWhat are some of the verbatim comments you were banned for? On which subs did you post them?
- fernandotakai 3y agowhat puzzles me the most is that reddit's reasoning for charging money for their API is that "it's bad that other people are profiting from our work and it's too expensive to maintain without someone paying it". hey, guess what? reddit "profits" a LOT from unpaid work from their moderators. if you wanna charge for API access, you should also pay your moderators since you are profiting from their work.
- gorbachev 3y agoThe pre-IPO process often involves all kinds of fun short-term profit maximizing activities.
- jeltz 3y agoYeah, I have personally seen companies inflicting hundreds of millions worth of damages to themselves of not billions as part of pre-IPO work. Extra hilarious and sad to watch when the IPO has to be aborted.
- bmitc 3y agoWhy is it so predictable? I know investors don't care about anything other than returns, but what returns do you get when you tank companies in such diametrically opposed ways from how they've operated before?
- gorbachev 3y agoThere are different kinds of investors involved in an IPO process. The investors that have pre-IPO stock and who are looking to sell as quickly as possible, gain from IPO pops, so it's in their best interest to maximize short-term profits. That group of investors include a lot of the existing investors, and in almost all cases the founders and C-suite of the company.
- prox 3y agoHonest question, does this include artificial inflation of costs? I have seen figures that Reddit used to run with 20 people, and inflated to 2000 in 10 years. Old reddit is also superlight in bandwidth. New reddit is not.
- silisili 3y agoThe context most of Reddit seems to be missing here is that Reddit will do whatever it wants and has many times before in anything they find unsavory. When the speech police benefits the mods, they are all on board with it. Now that it doesn't, they seem so suddenly shocked. These free power tripping mods standing up for themselves can be steamrolled by employees, and probably will be. It happened to more than one sub I was in. They installed their own mods to 'keep the peace', and despite warnings that bad actors were at play, shut down the subs anyways. Curious to see how this plays out.
- capybara_2020 3y agoIt looks like they might be prepared for that already in some ways. Reddit used to be a place where you go for relatively unbiased opinions. Some mods and subreddits were better than the rest, some worse. But atleast there was an illusion of being unbiased. Mods to for brand/product subreddits atleast officially were not linked to the company. But that is no more the case, just realized a few weeks back that /r/midjourney is modded by the official team and reddit does not seem to be doing anything about it. Guess Reddit is trying to become more like Facebook with major brands managing their own subreddits, so no more random mods needed.
- Cthulhu_ 3y agoNah that's not uncommon, plenty of brands will have a social media presence, including Reddit; it's just that (from my perspective), the really commercial ones never gained much traction and didn't rise to the top anywhere. Reddit marketing is done best if it looks grassroots.
- FragrantRiver 3y agoIsn't /r/leagueoflegends/ one of the biggest subreddits?
- hcks 3y agoCan we stop pretending the mods are some thankless workers when they literally do it to get power and status over some “community”.
- mypastself 3y agoYep, if they really think they’re being exploited, they’ll simply quit. It’s much different from relying on the only available, poorly paid job to make ends meet.
- damontal 3y agoWhy will it be quite an event? After this brief protest it is business as usual.
- dottjt 3y agoDoesn't seem to load?
- oschvr 3y agoHN kiss of death
- cubefox 3y agoSlashdotted
- azangru 3y agoIt just takes a (very) long time for me. Surprisingly, the server response time is very long even though all it sends back is a mostly empty static index.html. Is it the absence of caching that's responsible for this?
- tazjin 3y agoSomebody will need to make a page that shows us when Reddark goes dark.
- stefncb 3y agoSomeone else posted this link: https://reddark.untone.uk/ https://reddark.untone.uk/ Loads instantly for me. Seems to be the same website.
- Tanza3D 3y agoapologies for that, I'm rather new to the language I'm using for this site still, and I put it together rather fast, so there were loads of issues with it crashing, all fixed now I'm pretty sure (tldr it was accidentally doing millions of requests a second, maxing out the server cpu and ram. even other services were crashing on it lol)
- tapland 3y agoIt would be cool with a toggle to show subreddits going dark indefinitely and/or already dark, to see who isn't just following the general blackout.
- s9w 3y ago[dead]
- detrites 3y agoI tallied (roughly) the number of subscriber accounts, across all these reddits. It's around 1 billion. Obviously, it's not conservative as many will have subscribed to multiple. But, I see MAU (monthly active users) is about 1b. So, this is huge. EDIT: Seems the source for MAU I found was way high, making this potentially even bigger. Every other source I've found is 400-500m range for MAU on reddit (as another pointed out).
- Krutonium 3y agoI got around 1.5b, not filtering for one user subbed to multiple subreddits.
- detrites 3y agoI stopped counting at lower subbed communities (below 100k IIRC), seeing diminishing returns. If they all add up that much it's interesting, as many of those communities are very niche, so may have a higher weight of unique subs.
- layer8 3y agoFWIW, as of 2021, Reddit had around 50 million DAUs and 450 million MAUs. Some portion of users will also just fall back to visiting other subreddits on June 12.
- azangru 3y agoI've never before seen a codebase that has a package-lock.json, but no package.json https://github.com/Tanza3D/reddark/ https://github.com/Tanza3D/reddark/
- thih9 3y agoDiscussed in a github issue: https://github.com/Tanza3D/reddark/issues/3 https://github.com/Tanza3D/reddark/issues/3
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- vachina 3y agoHmmmm. None of my subscribed subs are participating. Interesting to note subs that participated are the noisier (lower snr) subs, which probably serves the bulk of their users and would hurt Reddit’s visitor numbers the most.
- about3fitty 3y agoI own the DocuSign subreddit. We are going dark permanently… until Reddit decides to reassign it to reps from the company. This is part and parcel of the hollowing out of the platform.
- dataengineer56 3y ago> I own the DocuSign subreddit. You don't own it, you were just either the first person to create the subreddit or someone who has since becomes the longest-serving moderator on it. I'll never understand how camping on a subreddit gives anyone the right to say that they "own" it or gives them more power over everyone else indefinitely. It's a big flaw in Reddit, I think all subreddits should be put up for some kind of vote every ~2 years.
- pinguinFromY 3y agoBy this logic, Americans don't own their land, they were there just in time to conquer it. Or I don't own my home, I was just the first person to buy it.
- surfpel 3y agoIndeed. https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_domain https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_domain
- sverhagen 3y agoExcept that ownership of land, in America, on balance, provides a little more security than, um, "owning" a Subreddit. But hey, I don't know much about Reddit, and I've not followed much of the discussion, but has it not come up yet that Reddit could penalize these, um (again), "owners" for their uprising by taking their "ownership" away and opening back up these Subreddits?
- dataengineer56 3y agoReddit has a sea of moderators who quietly moderate hobby subreddits that they're interested in, and then a small number of power moderators who moderate hundreds of subreddits each (and who have coordinated these blackouts). These powermods spend most of their time on metadrama and have little concern over the quality of their subreddits. I think Reddit should absolutely be stripping away control from these powermods.
- joelhaasnoot 3y agoUsing the API (that would be some irony!) or scraping?
- activiation 3y agoThe API is still free for now
- thih9 3y agoI wish subreddits going dark would provide some alternative platform, already seeded with a sample of their content. I’m unfamiliar with most of these subreddits and in some cases I’m curious what they’re about. As a bonus, this could be an organic attempt at moving to a different place.
- Cthulhu_ 3y agoI mean in theory each subreddit could be a website of its own, but Reddit works for two reasons; one, it amalgates all of these various communities into one platform, look and feel, and two, they pay for it. Lemmy is pushed as an alternative, but it has two issues; one, it's decentralized, so users have to scout on the internet to find servers to find communities on, and two, there's no monetization so whoever hosts a server will have to pay out of pocket; that cannot scale to the scale of Reddit, neither in terms of server requirements or cost, unless the owner finds a source of income from the service. Reflected sounds of underground spirits, basically.
- saos 3y agoReddit ceo doing an AMA soon…wonder how rattled Reddit they are about all this.
- nicce 3y agoShould we break the current record of EA?
- saos 3y agoHa just seen that and downvoted it coz it really annoyed me
- M2Ys4U 3y agoThe CEO has already resorted to libelling the Apollo app's developer, so... they must be fairly rattled.
- Aachen 3y agoThey've already resorted to using server access to change other people's messages that were calling him names, changing it to calling donald not-duck names. It doesn't get much more stupid than that.
- d3vmax 3y agoReddit banned my 17-year-old account as I was reporting all the scammy/crypto ads as misinformation. I didn't comment or post anything that would be considered a TOS / Policy violation, but they still banned my account under that. I asked for a review from the admin, and they replied that their decision is final and that I should look at the Content Policy and not violate it but never giving me the exact reason / policy violation. Why invest your time/effort into any ecosystem which doesn't have a proper redressal mechanism? I am not contributing to reddit anymore, I think as with all entities/companies/empires they are past their prime and they are on the down. I remember when a lot of users jumped ship from Digg to Reddit, I wish another entity comes along which is better than reddit.
- dmichulke 3y agoI got banned twice for using abbreviations like SQL or JS because the mods assumed I must be shilling shitcoins. It was in a crypto-related reddit but in a thread about programming algorithmic trading bots. Looks like the wrong sword cuts both ways, too.
- revskill 3y agoLuckily i can't use Reddit because i couldn't register an account on their site. Their SSO system is broken.
- cubefox 3y agoImagine there was a free or quasi-free API for Facebook. Facebook would lose large amounts of money on content because they can no longer monetize it with ads.
- audunw 3y agoI think the Apollo creator mentioned the fact that Reddit doesn't even inject ads in the posts it delivers through its API. He seemed confused about why they hadn't. Which begs the question why the hell they didn't work on getting the apps used for browsing Reddit to display ads? Just include them as posts like they do on the website, perhaps just with a label added. If the apps try to filter away the ads, revoke their API keys. If users pay extra, omit the ads from the API. If companies want an entirely ad-free API, for training LLMS etc, they can pay extra. This problem seems like something that could have so easily been avoided. I think I would happily pay a small monthly fee to keep an ad-free Apollo browsing experience, especially if it could be done in a way where the money was split between Reddit and Apollo. But.. they never even tried?
- sofixa 3y ago> Which begs the question why the hell they didn't work on getting the apps used for browsing Reddit to display ads? Just include them as posts like they do on the website, perhaps just with a label added. If the apps try to filter away the ads, revoke their API keys. Yep, that's what Telegram did - there can be ads in public channels, they're clearly labeled as such in the API, and third-party clients must not filter them or will get their access revoked.
- whatatita 3y agoThere's no issue with a non-free API, the issue is the pricing they've decided on and the timescale they've given to adopt it. 30 days notice isn't long enough to adopt a new pricing strategy, especially one so unreasonably priced.
- FatherPaulStone 3y agoAlmost as if it's been designed that way.
- jmorenoamor 3y agoReddit can stand a 48h blackout without a problem. Anything but a permanent blackout is just peanuts to them.
- Mindwipe 3y agoA single blackout does not preclude further actions. Reddit's adminstration team seem extremely rattled for something they can stand without a problem.
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- yunruse 3y agoI've also been using PowerDeleteSuite[0] to delete all submissions and comments, as deleting your account will not delete posts, just change the user to [deleted]. [0] https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite/ https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite/
- circuit10 3y agoI get that you want to protest but I don’t like the idea of destroying information permanently that might not be available elsewhere, it’s really frustrating when you find a comment that seemed to give you the solution to the problem exact problem you have but it got deleted. Is there a less destructive way to do this?
- surgical_fire 3y agoSometimes destruction of something is a way forward. I think I'll do the deletion thing to my accounts. Just a bleep on the radar, but helps make Reddit a slightly shittier place.
- Timon3 3y agoI just deleted my account of 9+ years with a good number of comments. The reason is simple: I don't know of any other way for me as a user to actually do anything against Reddit, aside from not using it. But I hate the idea of a company doing a successful rug-pull while profiting off my thoughts and ideas. Sure, it's a bummer that the info is lost - but I feel that every small bit of success they have now will increase the likelihood of something like this happening again in the future.
- IanCal 3y agoI tried this for backing up my data but it said it had only ~3k things and then only exported ~150 of them. I wouldn't trust this to work. I'm going to have to write something to process the data export once the gdpr request goes through.
- quaintdev 3y agoToo bad we don't have a viable replacement for reddit atm or this would have been end of Reddit
- OnlyEvenPrime2 3y agoWe have Lemmy. I already deleted my Reddit account and moved.
- Engineering-MD 3y agoMain instance (lemmy.ml) has quite heavy political censorship though. It’s not obvious or visible, and including under anti racism rules. Criticising non western countries leads to calls of orientalist and bans [0]. Also without a business model they will struggle to maintain the servers required for even a tiny fraction of Reddit [0]https://lemmy.ml/post/1167199 https://lemmy.ml/post/1167199
- karmakurtisaani 3y agoI think it's too early to complain about censorship. Moda are still probably adjusting to what is acceptable, and there are several instances where policies differ. Same as turning down whole of Reddit because one subreddit has strict moderation. Regarding the business model, there isn't any. At best it will be run by donations if the costs mount top high. I'm curious to see where it will go, but at least there are no ads at least not yet.
- lolinder 3y ago> there are several instances where policies differ For now, but if this is how the maintainers of the main instance feel, how long before they start defederating from instances without their strict policies? Isn't that already happening on Mastodon? The fediverse ends up really confusing because it gets so balkanized. "One domain, one community" is easy to understand. "We're all seeing the same stuff no matter where you are" is easy to understand. But with defederation as an option, you have to navigate a complicated web of the meta social network—the network of networks, and who federates with who. Email doesn't have this problem so much because ideology is not a concern for private messaging. You have spam and you have anticompetitive behavior, but you don't have "random guy who happens to maintain the instance had a falling out with the random guy maintaining this other instance."
- dalbasal 3y agoWhy is this issue (API pricing) specifically important to reddit mods?
- rawbot 3y agoI read that most big subreddits use 3rd party tools to auto-moderate spam and such.
- azernik 3y agoModerators use third party tools heavily; vanilla Reddit is not convenient for moderation workflows.
- jeltz 3y agoAccording to some moderators the official moderation tools are not good enough to handle large subreddits so many moderators use the third party tools.
- iLoveOncall 3y agoThey claim it's because moderation tools are better on 3rd party apps, the truth is that they just don't want to see ads.
- lewisflude 3y agoMost moderators overwhelmingly rely on the utility function you get in 3rd party apps that isn't currently in the official app, so I genuinely believe this is one aspect of the protest. I could be wrong, but I genuinely can't see a situation where this amount of action is purely around seeing ads. Pretty unanimously, 3rd party app developers have said they'd happily show Reddit's ads in their feed, but Reddit never came out with this feature. I don't think any 3rd party app developer was expecting a free ride on Reddit's API forever. Pretty good read, you might have already read this: https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/144f6xm/apollo_will_close_down_on_june_30th_reddits/ https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/144f6xm/apollo_w...
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- jacquesm 3y ago48 hours will not even ding reddit. Do it for a month and it will count, assuming reddit doesn't simply re-enable the subreddits. But obviously the mods here are walking a fine line between pissing off their users and getting reddit to bend over. With camarades.com we had a week long outage because of a fire in EV1's DC which then caused the fire marshal to shut everything down for a week (I don't blame them, but that's a failure mode we had not considered). This caused us to go dark completely without an easy way to reach the users to tell them what was going on. When power came back traffic was where it was before within 20 minutes, and the next day we even had a surge in traffic that we didn't ever pass again. If you really want to see an effect I would suggest a period somewhere between two weeks and a month backed up by a threat to do it for three months if they don't recant. That would have some serious teeth in it and threatens to completely derail any IPO plans they might have. Anything less and you're just showing that it is reddit that is the boss, not you. A good rule for a community is that if it isn't your domain, database and server it isn't really your community.
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- Mindwipe 3y agoReddit admin are bricking themselves to be resorting to telling moderators that they will only make better moderation tools if their subs don't participate, so they clearly don't agree 48 hours is an idle threat.
- thumbuddy 3y agoWriting two sentences to scare a handful of people isn't exactly showing their hand...
- Aaargh20318 3y ago> 48 hours will not even ding reddit. I don't think the direct losses of the 48 outage will be what matters here. Rumors are that Reddit wants to IPO later this year. This blackout will put the spotlight on two issues: - Reddit is extremely dependent on the goodwill of the community, especially the moderators who provide an essential service for free. - Reddit is out of touch with its own community, and keeps pissing off the very people their existence depends upon. If I were planning to invest in Reddit, this would make me think twice.
- benob 3y agoWhy isn't there a reddit clone ready to host all those communities under a different economic model (such as donations)?
- layer8 3y agoBecause that different economic model is highly unlikely to work.
- rsolva 3y agoI think Lemmy could serve as a replacement, adding true ownership for the communities as a nice bonus.
- dotnet00 3y agoExisting reddit clones are unfortunately run by political outcasts from both extremes. So they tend to not be as open for the average user. Plus, even just looking at Mastodon/ActivityPub activity, it's dropped back down to nearly half of what it was in January at the peak of the Twitter exodus.
- elpocko 3y agoRemove mods from the biggest subs, replace them with paid employees. Just for a while, until this blows over and new volunteers show up. Or, since you just need one mod in every sub to keep the others in line, replace the top mod. With a script.
- iLoveOncall 3y agoThis is obviously what will happen in the long term, moderation will switch to a Facebook-like model. It's a good thing, most moderators are bad.
- silcoon 3y agoThe first digital strike? Interested to see what's going to happen. At this point is probably be useful having mastodon like reddit. If I'm not wrong, archive.org keeps a dump of all reddit discussions until 2023.
- Aachen 3y agoWhat people on stackexchange are doing is more like a strike, if you're looking for a digital volunteer force strike. They're stopping their moderation work. Reddit people are temporarily disabling the subreddits altogether. Like disabling the busses (the thing the company pays for) rather than stopping to drive them (the work you want to get a certain compensation for). Not sure it's a great comparison as it's not about wages (or wage-related things) at all in reddit's case
- Grimburger 3y agoMaybe it's the chaotic neutral talking here but I reckon mods going on strike for two days while leaving the subs public would show just how important they are to Reddit Inc. and why their unpaid work still has a cost to the company.
- giraffe_lady 3y agoI've modded medium-large subs before and though it's been a few years and I'm sure the automation has improved and I doubt it's perfect. A small but significant part of the mod queue on big subs is a steady trickle of things intended to offend, shock, disgust, or harm: goatse-type stuff but also violent gruesome mutilation & death photos, straight up child porn. The consensus on HN is largely that being hurt or offended is the moral transgression, but some of the base motivation of moderation and moderators is protecting people from that kind of harm. Intentionally exposing people to it through inaction to make a point to another entity is not particularly neutral, I don't think.
- rvz 3y agoThis is another gigantic nothing. Equivalent to ants standing together to protect their ant hill from destruction against the might of pest control and the land owner. While Reddit is a dumpster fire, it is still a business and you never owned the 'subreddit' and it is not yours either and its API is subject to price rises. This sort of risk should not be underestimated and it was only a matter of time that the API was going to be paid. Like Twitter, it has now happened to Reddit. Going dark for 1 day will do nothing to Reddit and it will be just business as usual.
- skilled 3y agoI don't get it, isn't this the website that's hosting this, as is shown in the source? > origin: "https://reddark.untone.uk/ https://reddark.untone.uk/",
- Tanza3D 3y agohost and domain changed, and a redirect was setup
- kellops 3y agoI'm just appalled that these people continue to provide free labour to Reddit and that Reddit encourages this arrangement. The "dang" model where the moderators get paid a salary for their work seems the only reasonable and fair way to go. Having mods work for free is effectively a form of psychological abuse, taking advantage of people's social media addiction for corporate benefit.
- treme 3y agoeconomics just don't work for professional mods atm. keep in mind YC is worth 100B+
- kellops 3y agoReddit already has professional mods who deal with reported content, across all subreddits, in the following prohibited categories: > Harassment > Threatening violence > Hate > Sexualization of minors > Sharing personal information > Non-consensual intimate media > Prohibited transaction > Impersonation > Copyright violation > Trademark violation > Self-harm or suicide > Spam Those moderators aren't doing their work for free, so why should anyone else?
- phaistra 3y ago> Those moderators aren't doing their work for free, so why should anyone else? Because they actively volunteer to do so.
- funciton 3y agoReddit admins only have site-wide rules to worry about. They don't need to care about whether a particular post is appropriate for a particular subreddit. If they did that would make their job a lot more complicated.
- Cthulhu_ 3y agoThe problem that every social media has is that manual moderation does not scale; even with tooling, the major platforms like Facebook employ thousands of content moderators as contractors, a lot in low-wage countries. Having an army of willing volunteers helps, but it's not good enough because these are unpaid, untrained people without the psychological helplines that professional moderators have. I hope Reddit has good tooling to prevent the volunteers from seeing the worst of it. That said, I do think that everyone contributing their time to social media like this should get a cut from the revenue; I'm 100% confident Reddit has exact numbers for the value per subreddit and even per post, so they can apply math and give the moderators a percentage of that, and even the posters of good posts. I mean yeah then you get the problem of reposts and simple copiers, but that's already an issue, it's just that the issue is karma instead of money.
- negative_zero 3y agoA part of me would like to think that this whole thing will be a Digg 4.0 moment for Reddit, but cynical me don't think it will be.
- falqun 3y agoTime to shreddit I guess. (https://github.com/x89/shreddit https://github.com/x89/shreddit)
- CatWChainsaw 3y agoReddark is happening on June 12 and so is the largest NATO defense drill in history. Coincidence? Actually I think so, but I'd be lying if I said it wasn't a little unnerving. :)
- casenmgreen 3y agoI run a small sub. I have posted, asking the readers how they feel about going private. I run my own forum, and can move the content there.
- drtgh 3y agoIf someone got so confused like me, even following the links of the OP page, https://old.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/142kct8/eli5_why_are_subreddits_going_dark/ https://old.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/142kct8/... (PD: The archive.org waiting queue for to submit old.reddit looks collapsed. Was this organization warned before promoting a massive submit? )
- amrb 3y agoWhat's the new reddit to try?
- gooob 3y agowhy doesn't reddit just let users host nodes to serve the subreddits? make it distributed, like bittorrent. that would take a lot of load off of the reddit servers.
- ElongatedMusket 3y agoIf you control the server you can serve ads and collect user data. Those two things make up the majority of reddit's revenue. So you are not wrong, but it would be like saying "why don't restaurants just let the chefs host meals in people's homes?" ... because then the restaurant doesn't need to exist anymore.
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- DocTomoe 3y agoAll this will result in is Reddit secretly taking over these subreddits, take out the mods and give them to "trustworthy" people. They will first ask nicely, and if you don't bend over, they will do so anyways. I know it because it happened to me.
- CamelCaseName 3y agoWrite about it!
- revskill 3y agoIt's about game theory. Which kind of Community will stay ? 20% ? It's hard to make change.
- dm319 3y agoIt's a shame because of all the social media platforms, reddit is one of the best. There isn't so much grandstanding (I couldn't tell you a single username on reddit), and the ability to rapidly create special-interest subreddits means that discussion revolves around the topic, on the whole. I left facebook because it became a place where people I knew spent their time curating a false virtual identity of themselves and seemed to become a place to establish social status rather than any meaningful conversation. I've avoided instagram for the same reason. Twitter seemed a good platform for open discussion, but now it looks like a pit of misery. Mastodon is pleasant and friendly, but I find it hard to talk about the topics I am interested in. Like twitter it is more person-focused. What would be nice is if there is a way to cut across it easily in a more topic-focused way. Hashtags are present, but they don't have the feel of a forum. For positive or negative, there isn't any 'algorithm' on mastodon other than reverse chronology, and I think that does miss out on highlighting interesting topics and replies. Also there is no moderation or guidelines for hashtags, a feature which helped guide people to the right discussions in reddit.
- arlcode 3y agoFor me it's because most good subreddits are focused on a single issue and not using the home feed let's you avoid all the "hot political issues of the day" where everything has been said millions of times. I don't need another 1000 comments of the same old 5 tired talking points I also like not being insulted and topic specific subs allow strict moderation and the banning of unpleasant people.
- bombcar 3y agoI've not been on reddit in years and I can still remember "Gallowboob" and the conspiracies/clashes therein.
- breakingcups 3y agoI could tell you only one, poem_for_your_sprog.
- sphars 3y agou/Shitty_Watercolour was one of my faves
- salad-tycoon 3y agoAlternative title suggestion: Redditact’d
- mattbrewsbytes 3y agoI think instead of going dark they should just leave their subreddits un-moderated. The amount of junk content that would fill the site might be enough for advertisers to pull money, which is ultimately what this is about. Going dark is the equivalent of thoughts and prayers after a mass shooting.
- Endy 3y agoA nice idea, but my opinion is that we need to openly boycott all of Advance Media's holdings and investments. Don't go off Reddit for a few days and watch something owned by Warner Discovery, or read Epicurious for recipes to cook while you "wait". Hit every rev stream they have. This isn't just about Reddit's IPO, this has to be about permanently breaking the back of a media conglomerate.
- izzydata 3y agoIs going private really even going dark? They should shut them down completely so nobody can make posts or comments.
- throwaway894345 3y agoThis should probably have an NSFW tag on it. There are a lot of NSFW subreddit names on that list.
- stainablesteel 3y ago60/3166, that's it?
- iooi 3y agoWould be cooler if it looked like this: https://finviz.com/map.ashx https://finviz.com/map.ashx
- shantnutiwari 3y agoThe list is pretty up to date-- I made my subreddit private a few hours ago and it already showed up
- Tanza3D 3y agoyeah, it's made so it updates in real-time, should have a maximum of around a minute of delay if the server is running properly and Reddit aren't blocking us
- throw9away6 3y agoThis reminds me of the Digg 4.0 launch disaster
- 634636346 3y agoI post on a handful of niche reddits (science/tech, not porn, like the average redditor), and the user experience is abysmal. Besides the upvoting/downvoting nonsense and imperious mods, half the time my posts get caught in the spam filter (despite my account being 5+ years old), and I have to check incognito mode to see if they showed up, and message the mods. At the very least, it's nice to know that rather than a lukewarm welcome, any would-be Eternal Septemberists will be met with "kys leddit spacing, phoneposting, ******" should they try 4chan as an alternative.
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