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It seems that the leak originated from 4chan [1]. Two people in the same thread had access to the weights and verified that their hashes match [2][3] to make su
by Tiberium 4y ago
It seems that the leak originated from 4chan [1]. Two people in the same thread had access to the weights and verified that their hashes match [2][3] to make sure that the model isn't watermarked. However, the leaker made a mistake of adding the original download script which had his unique download URL to the torrent [4], so Meta can easily find them if they want to.
[1]: https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/91848262#p91850335 https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/91848262#p91850335
[2]: https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/91848262#p91849717 https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/91848262#p91849717
[3]: https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/91848262#p91849855 https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/91848262#p91849855
[3]: https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/91848262#p91850503 https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/91848262#p91850503
- causi 4y agoJust a warning to readers, I would not recommend clicking 4chan links while at work.
- abxytg 4y agoif you don't have the leeway to say "I was looking at the 4chan thread where metas LLM was leaked" you shouldnt even be on hacker news tbh. get back to work!
- jpeter 4y agoFortune favors the brave
- causi 4y agoPersonally I apply the "how would I feel about this page being printed out and laying on my boss's desk" test to every site I visit at work.
- optymizer 4y agoI would feel like that's a waste of paper. They could have pulled it up on a laptop or tablet.
- pas 4y ago... how is that a good test of anything? I mean what if I click on a /b/ link "at work"? Does that make my work output immediately tainted and the company has to immediately file for bankruptcy?
- brookst 4y agoNah, it just reflects poor judgment that may extend to other areas. It’s a little like the Van Halen M&M test: if you don’t follow that rule, people have to wonder what other expectations you won’t meet.
- pas 4y agoThey don't have to, I very loudly proclaim which rules I have a lot of disregard for :) > little like the Van Halen M&M test Hah, yes, though in this case I apply it "inversely". Anyone who gets lost in the process, instead of considering the people in it, is out. (That's why, usually, my conflicts/problems with my late bosses/employers had something to do with them being a bit too cavalier when it came formalities like ... paying in time.) Trade-offs, trade-offs are hard.
- troad 4y ago> Does that make my work output immediately tainted and the company has to immediately file for bankruptcy? No, much easier just to fire you. You’ve shown a disregard for what is almost certainly company policy, and created legal risks for the company (e.g. if anyone walked in on you while your screen was showing naked people).
- Brian_K_White 4y agoSince I know how to explain how little that means, I don't care what links they see me go to. If I have a work-related reason to look at something then I do, simple as that, and when your job is to engineer, almost any instance of satisfying curiosity is work related ultimately.
- notadev 4y agoSaving this for when I eventually get pulled into HR. “Yes I was on PornHub, but was only looking at it for the UX inspiration”.
- Brian_K_White 4y agoPorn sites have some of the best and some of the worst coding. Both are very useful to study.
- jesprenj 4y agoI remember that PornHub had for a brief moment in 2022 a PHP issue in the production site -- every comment was rendered with a closing PHP tag somewhere in it's content to the client (?>).
- dmix 4y ago"I was admiring the quality of their HTML5 video player" Which reminds me of when YouTube spent forever with a broken beta HTML5 player, spending 5+ yrs building something that porn sites did immediately.
- ilyt 4y agoIsn't the "preview" function in timeline ripped straight off porno sites too ?
- minsc_and_boo 4y agoI mean, I'm pretty sure DVD players had it when FF/Rewinding first.
- emptyfile 4y agoI don't think most people have their employer recording their screens or looking over their shoulder?
- doomleika 4y agohahahahahahahahahahahahaha, thank you for making my day.
- m4jor 4y agomagnet:?xt=urn:btih:ZXXDAUWYLRUXXBHUYEMS6Q5CE5WA3LVA&dn=LLaMA
- Bilal_io 4y agoDon't download stuff at work either.
- weberer 4y ago/g/ is one of the SFW boards
- GaggiX 4y agoblue boards*, it's still not safe to open it at work.
- lofatdairy 4y agoIn theory, in practice I believe I was scrolling through it once in a freshman lecture and got jumpscared by a goatse pic.
- Ntrails 4y ago>got jumpscared by a goatse pic hello
- micromacrofoot 4y agoI can put on a paper bag and call it pants, but that doesn't make it a smart thing to wear to work
- fnordpiglet 4y agoThat’s precisely why return to office is a stupid idea
- micromacrofoot 4y agoexactly, now we can use less plastic and properly reuse our paper bags
- Havoc 4y agoPoints for optimism
- HideousKojima 4y agoSFW on 4chan blue boards is essentially only in the sense of no pornographic imagery (and even then if a rulebreaker posts porn it can take a few minutes for the mods to catch it and remove the thread). It won't stop you seeing threads about how Lennart Poettering and SystemD are part of a Zionist conspiracy to undermine Linux or similar ideas.
- narrator 4y agoIt's funny that part of the 4chan excitement over this is that they think they'll get back the AI girlfriend experience of when character.ai was hooked up to uncensored GPT-3. All that has been thoroughly shut down by character.ai and Replika and they just want their girlfriends back.
- jimbob45 4y agoI’m sure the CAI filter will magically stop filtering as much now that they have actual competition.
- bogomipz 4y agoWhat is the CAI filter?
- optimalsolver 4y agocharacter.ai
- dmix 4y agoThe Repilka subreddit became one of the weirdest places on the internet when their model got capped for adult content. https://www.reddit.com/r/replika/ https://www.reddit.com/r/replika/ Hundreds of men (and yes women) full on acting like they lost a spouse and posting constantly about it for weeks. AI is going to create some unusual social situations the general public isn't ready to grasp. And we're only in the early alpha stages.
- BurningFrog 4y ago> Hundreds of men (and yes women) They could also be AIs.
- fennecfoxy 4y agoI imagine not too far in the future an AI that for some reason thinks that it's human, will make a post on HN (or elsewhere) about having spoken to another human on a chat and asking us all if we think that the human it spoke to was really just an ML model or not. Atm we seem to have very fixed single-purpose models but if we start combining these models into larger systems we're really going to have to firewall the hecky out of them. Ie generative text + personality + internet access/chatroom hosting/search and learn + etc models all together. Ooof.
- archon1410 4y agoIt has only just occurred to me that 4chan's technology board is /g/ because it's tech-naw-la-G
- lolpython 4y ago> The board letter /g/ stands for gijutsu (技術), the Japanese word for technology https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki//g/#:~:text=%2Fg%2F%20is%204chan's,the%20Japanese%20word%20for%20technology https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki//g/#:~:text=%2Fg%2F%20is....
- yamrzou 4y agoArchived: https://archive.is/lGrH8 https://archive.is/lGrH8 See also: https://twitter.com/Teknium1/status/1631322496388722689 https://twitter.com/Teknium1/status/1631322496388722689
- oh_sigh 4y agoWhat kind of recourse would meta have here? Sue him for breach of contract?
- femi-lab 4y agoThey almost surely anticipated that this would happen at some point (though perhaps not so soon). They would look like major ass holes for dragging some post doc or whatever through the courts to make a point; would not be good for brand at all. But it does give them cover for whatever people end up doing with it - they can claim they did all they could to support research while promoting safety.
- dumbotron 4y ago> They would look like major ass holes for dragging some post doc or whatever through the courts to make a point Oracle wouldn't care. Lawnmower doesn't give a shit about you.
- manquer 4y agoOracle already look like that so they have no PR to loose . In fact their current reputation will take a hit if they dont take it to court . Kind of like the mob, you have to maintain certain reputation to keep their fiefdom in line
- mwill 4y agoOff topic, but I clicked around /g/, which I haven't done in probably more than a decade, and a thread caught my eye about learning to code. The replies were overwhelmingly of the position that it is useless, and you will be replaced by AI before you can get a job if you start learning now. I think that's nonsense, and 4chan is bent towards pessimism but it's still surprising to me.
- boole1854 4y ago4chan has been in full doomer mode for years. It didn't used to be, from what I remember, though I was never an active denizen. I'd love to understand the sociology behind the change in vibe that happened there.
- toxicFork 4y agoToo much anime and weed
- int_19h 4y agoThat describes a lot of communities. Most of which don't produce similar attitudes as a result.
- OkayPhysicist 4y agoI reckon that the format of the site caps how large of a community it could build, and its (well-earned) reputation for being the dregs of the internet has continuously selected and pushed new people meeting that description in (forcing others out). The result is distillation. As the internet gets bigger and bigger, 4chan gets worse and worse. Combine with that the fact that anonymity combined with a relatively small community (relative to, say, Reddit) creates the perfect grounds for false consensus building, and a real echo chamber forms.
- Gigachad 4y agoIt’s been like that as long as I’ve known. It just used to be dooming over smartphones and Microsoft products
- Cipater 4y agoWhy do 4chan users go out of their way to be so offensive in their posts?
- gpm 4y agoBecause we took the set of internet users, and sorted everyone who wants to be intentionally offensive into 4chan. Which means there's not only a high density of people who like being intentionally offensive there, but that being intentionally offensive is socially rewarded, so over time 4chan users grow to want to be more and more intentionally offensive.
- fear_and_coffee 4y ago[dead]
- weberer 4y agoBecause the bump system combined with the finite number of threads incentivizes threads that get the highest number of replies per second. And the best way to increase replies per second is to start an internet fight.
- msm_ 4y agoAnd there is no voting, so the only possible gratification for posting is receiving a reply.
- _blz2 4y agobecause it is effective in keeping a certain type of people out
- Cipater 4y agoPeople like me? (I'm black)
- garbagecoder 4y agoIt's to preserve the users' mental health.
- lukeplato 4y agoIt would be interesting if there was a WikiLeaks-type of organization that facilitates safely leaking large models from big corporations. Not sure how that would play out for accelerationism and existential risk, but I certainly don't trust the current powers that be.
- Name_Chawps 4y agoOpen sourcing is widely recognized to be a bad thing when it comes to AI existential risk. (For the same reason you don't want simple instructions for how to build bio weapons posted to the internet.) Modern AI is pretty harmless though, so it doesn't matter yet.
- sinity 4y ago> Modern AI is pretty harmless though, so it doesn't matter yet. Yes, that's why the only thing people flipping out about "safety" of making them public achieve is making public distrustful about AI safety.