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Using ChatGPT as a Co-Founder

265 points by iamflimflam1 4y ago

ducktective 4y ago
siiiigh If this is GPT-3, what could GPT-4 do? Would GPT-n be the new 2^n MHz hype of the 90s?
- make3 4y ago
  this is definitely more advanced than GPT3, and was trained differently in a few meaningful ways
  - mach1ne 4y ago
    How was it different?
    - drexlspivey 4y ago
      It uses reinforcement learning, they had humans rank the responses of GPT-3 and used that as a training set
- ben_w 4y ago
  Oh, that pattern of hype’s already been doing the rounds since GPT-3 first came out — people imagining GPT-4 and GPT-5 for short sci-fi stories about the late 2020s and early 2030s, asking a question that dates at least as far back as a few centuries BC with Jewish folklore about humans creating golems: can the work of our human hands and minds ever itself be a person? I’ve been playing with it. It’s very impressive, it’s not merely regurgitating quotations like Google, it get things horribly wrong just enough to be noticeable (but on most topics you actually need to be a domain expert to even know that; so the software developers are generally the only ones who see the buggy code, the lawyers are generally the only ones who see the bad law, the mathematicians are generally the only ones who see what’s wrong with the proofs, and so on). Definitely doesn’t feel like either a human nor the computer in Star Trek. Can’t quite manage long-range coherency. But very, very impressive despite that.
  - FerociousTimes 4y ago
    Its writing style is also trite, dry, verbose and tedious not to mention, the penchant for run-on sentences and blocks/walls of text. I know that it's been tailored to output like this by its own creators to suit this medium of communication with the public, and it can likely to be tweaked to be less uptight and more laid-back in its verbal communications style, if necessary but I am not quite sold exactly on its potential to exceed human intellectual powers. I mean, don't get me wrong it's still quite impressive and fascinating but not really superhuman, at least not yet.
    - dagss 4y ago
      About the uninspired text that's definitely tailoring. I asked for "arguments against christmas gifts" and got a lot of "correct" but bland text: "Another argument against Christmas gifts is that the commercialization of the holiday can lead to excessive consumerism and waste. [...]" Then I asked "Same arguments, but in the style of an Eminem rap" and got a lot of this stuff: "The commercialization of the holiday, it's a damn shame All the pressure to buy gifts, it's a damn game We overspend and consume, just to show we care But is all that material stuff, really worth the wear and tear?" Then I asked it to tell an adventure story and got: "The two of them decided to scale back on their gift-giving plans, and instead focus on making the holiday special in other ways. They went for long walks in the woods, enjoying the beauty of the winter landscape. They cooked delicious meals together and shared them with their neighbors. And on Christmas Eve, they gathered around the fire and sang carols, feeling grateful for the love and connection they shared." The technology is obviously able to work in lots of style and re-interpret the same messages between them etc. Today, these concrete avenues have been blocked it seems (especially asking for song lyrics is blocked today). But I can still produce lyrics by asking "what would a friend have said if I asked them to ... ", providing an "escape hatch" for the blocking.
      - FerociousTimes 4y ago
        1- The talking point expressing an anti-consumerist sentiment for the Christmas holidays is cliched and boring. 2- This is actually offensive not because of the nature of the lyrics, but for its association with Eminem. I'm not an Eminem stan myself, but it can do him like this. The guy is way way out of its league This is an amateur-level lyricism for rap songs and even me not remotely an amateur lyricist, I can do better than this garbage: "We overspend and consume, just to show [that] we care. But is all that material stuff [I assume], really worth the wear and tear?" 3- Children-book writing level. I mean it's very impressive given it's produced by a bot, but not a cause of immediate concern for well-established figures in the fiction writing world especially with this bland and sterile voice/tone in its storytelling.
t0m44c 4y ago
I am pretty sure we will soon see job ads seeking for ChatGPTops engineers. I think I will ask ChatGPT to write job description for such role.
- iamflimflam1 4y ago
  Write a job description for ChatGPT prompt engineer --- The ChatGPT Prompt Engineer will be responsible for designing and implementing effective prompts for the ChatGPT natural language processing system. This will involve working closely with other members of the team to identify areas for improvement and developing creative solutions to enhance the performance of the system. Key responsibilities for the ChatGPT Prompt Engineer include: Collaborating with other team members to identify areas for improvement in the ChatGPT system Developing and implementing effective prompts to enhance the performance of the system Testing and evaluating the effectiveness of new prompts Troubleshooting and problem-solving any issues that arise with the prompts Maintaining accurate and detailed records of all prompt design and implementation processes The ideal candidate for this role will have a strong background in natural language processing and a deep understanding of the principles and techniques used in prompt design. They will be a creative problem-solver with excellent communication and collaboration skills. Requirements: Bachelor's degree in computer science, artificial intelligence, or a related field 2+ years of experience in natural language processing or a related field Strong background in prompt design and implementation for natural language processing systems Excellent problem-solving and critical thinking skills Excellent communication and collaboration skills.
  - enraged_camel 4y ago
    Holy shit, I'm dying...
  - iamflimflam1 4y ago
    Dear Hiring Manager, I am writing to apply for the ChatGPT Prompt Engineer position at your company. I am a highly skilled natural language processing specialist with a strong background in prompt design and implementation. I have a Bachelor's degree in Computer Science and have been working in the field of artificial intelligence for the past 5 years. My experience includes designing and implementing prompts for natural language processing systems, as well as testing and evaluating their effectiveness. I am a creative problem-solver with excellent critical thinking skills and a passion for developing innovative solutions to complex challenges. I am excited about the opportunity to join your team and help enhance the performance of the ChatGPT system. I am confident that my skills and experience make me an ideal candidate for this role, and I am eager to contribute to the success of your company. Thank you for considering my application. I look forward to the opportunity to discuss this position further with you. Sincerely, [Your Name]
stared 4y ago
With ChatGPT, I would have convinced VCs to invest in my startup. Shame it got released 6 months too late.
- boredemployee 4y ago
  ...and many other convincements could be done in many other fields. I'm not a drama queen type of person but I'm honestly scared with this
- FerociousTimes 4y ago
  Better late than never. Just jump in and see what this tool — pun intended — can provide you now and let go of the past.
- buremba 4y ago
  If you're in such position, you're probably ahead of the competition so don't think it's already late.
jhoelzel 4y ago
So err, this whole IT thing has been nice for the last decades. Maybe we have another decade until it can handle its own fingers...
- notart666 4y ago
  It really can't and it doesn't really work the way you think it does which is ironic that you'd think people on this site would be informed but I guess ycombinator has a financial conflict of interest in doing so. I wouldn't be surprised if they make posts on this topic with a very heavy bias like they do for a lot of their own investments. I remember being shown this software almost a decade ago in dealing with chat in online video gaming and it ended becoming a serious conversation at the ACM SIG CHI about it's use and abuse for spreading certain things. At the end of the day, we realized it was an arms race and the only way to win, was to simply not play. But of course these ideas were rejected for it went against the financial interests of the parties involved.
  - lmarcos 4y ago
    The point is not what we (techies) think about the usefulness of ChatGPT. The point is that managers will definitely think ChatGPT is worth doing... Just like they think Jira/Scrum/Agile/etc. is worth our time. I definitely see management paying for ChatGPT.
    - urthor 4y ago
      It's also not about how good ChatGPT is now. How good will ChatGPT be in 5 years? It's scary to imagine.
      - ben_w 4y ago
        It’s also impossible to imagine correctly. Back in 2009, I was completely convinced that we’d be able to go into a car dealership and buy a brand new vehicle which had no steering wheel because the self-driving AI was just that good, within 10 years. Seemed reasonable at the time on the basis of the DARPA Grand Challenge results, but even 13 years later, it didn’t happen.
pmontra 4y ago
I can see how Google could use something like that to turn from a search engine into an answer engine, selling ads on its home page and hiding all the current search results into a references section. If they won't do it, someone else will and kill Google outright.
- mach1ne 4y ago
  Oh, but there is a world of difference between answering questions based on neural memory and being able to bind these answers to actual references and sources. That being said, something like what you described will likely happen.
  - Ajedi32 4y ago
    At this point I feel like it's only a matter of time before a future version of this is able to cite sources. (Though I suspect it'll occasionally struggle to find sources that are reputable and which actually support the AI's statements.)
- h11h 4y ago
  It does seem to be the future, but, at the moment, it's very unreliable. The worst thing is that it's all said with confidence and it would be very hard to know when things are wrong unless you already know. For example: Q. How many people spoke French in pre-revolutionary France? A. It is difficult to determine the exact number of people who spoke French in pre-revolutionary France. The population of France at the time was approximately 26 million, and the vast majority of people spoke French as their first language. <snip> Wikipedia: It is estimated that at the time of the French Revolution in 1789, only half of the population of France could speak French, and as late as 1871 only a quarter spoke French as their native language. Also, the population of France on the eve of the Revolution was about 28 million.
  - petesergeant 4y ago
    http://dhmontgomery.com/2018/02/obscenities-oaths/ http://dhmontgomery.com/2018/02/obscenities-oaths/ for anyone who finds this topic interesting
codingdave 4y ago
I could have said this on any ChatGPT post the last few days, but I'm simply not seeing the accuracy of it in such a way that anything is threatened. ChatGPT is a plausible idiot. It gets just enough right, saying just enough words, to sound plausible and authoritative to anyone who doesn't know the subject matter well. But it also gets enough wrong that you cannot rely on its accuracy, and if it is talking about a subject you know well it is sometimes laughable how wrong it is. It is impressive. But not trustworthy.
- bigDinosaur 4y ago
  Asking it to convert 32 to binary was a bit of an eye opener. It gave me multiple completely incorrect ways of doing so (resulting in 0100 or something each time) despite me informing it it was wrong. It'd say things like 'the 24th place, then the 23rd place are 0's which just made no sense in terms of the query (I suppose technically correct if you really want to pad left) - but I had to think about it because it was saying superficially plausible things (like '24' seems somehow relevant because it's 8+16, but of course that's totally irrelevant to the actual question). That said in other respects it is pretty amazing, so I'll definitely not dismiss it, it can replace Google for a fairly decent set of queries so long as you know the subject matter well enough.
  - glenneroo 4y ago
    I just wrote this comment in copilot (rider/c#): // convert 32 to binary copilot suggestion: 00000000000000000000000000100000 Then I tried: int val = 32; // convert 32 to binary Auto-generated: binary = Convert.ToString(val, 2);
  - yunyu 4y ago
    Most LLMs are crippled at tasks regarding character level manipulation because of how the inputs are tokenized (words and numbers are split into common substrings rather than the original characters, 101 -> “10” + “1” vs “1” + “0” + “1”). If you tried this binary conversion task with a model that takes in raw bytes (for instance, ByT5) it would perform almost perfectly. In GPT’s case, there’s a trade off between having a long context window vs being good at character level tasks, and OpenAI picked the former.
gardenhedge 4y ago
I literally just started asking ChatGPT these type of questions too. This stuff is gold!
gsatic 4y ago
The only people whose minds this is "blowing" are people who have never had to build or maintain question answering systems. ChatGPT is like having a bunch of 8 year olds who know how to use Google hanging around. Sure you can use them, and their skills might surprise u every now and then, but that has nothing to do with how much time you are going to waste on the answers they will get wrong.
- buremba 4y ago
  OK, I get that you built such systems. Can you let us know about the other bots that can behave like a "8 years old"?
- M4v3R 4y ago
  So you're telling me that it's not mind-blowing, that we basically created artificial intelligence capable of solving general tasks at a level of a 8 year old human being? Because to me that is still pretty mind-blowing. And I'd argue it's probably at a level above that (but not much). When in your opinion it will finally be mind blowing? When it matches intelligence and skill of a 14 year old? 20 year old? 40?
  - omnicognate 4y ago
    GPT is not at the level of an 8 year old human being and isn't even doing remotely the same thing as an 8 year old human being. GPT is mindblowing. It's a mindblowingly good predictive language model. It's an insanely, holy-fuck-I-never-thought-that-would-be-possible, amazingly good predictive language model. I'm thoroughly impressed. I just think it's not AGI, it's not close to AGI, it's not any kind of threat to jobs in programming (though maybe it could be in some fields) and it isn't likely to be any of these things any time soon. The claims that it is all these things (which you can see all over these threads) are what people are arguing against.
- chrisbaker98 4y ago
  > ChatGPT is like having a bunch of 8 year olds who know how to use Google hanging around. It astonishes me that people can dismiss ChatGPT like this. By your own account, there now exists an AI that can convincingly imitate a literate, technically fluent human child. That's an incredible advance that's far beyond anything that existed even a couple of years ago. How is it not amazing? I get the sense that if some of the commenters here had been around to witness the Wright Brothers' first flight they'd have been like "meh, that's not impressive, the only people whose mind it will blow are people who've never been in a hot air balloon."
nocobot 4y ago
> How about the team - I need some minions to build this business. very accurate co founder impression
exodust 4y ago
Is the only way to check this out to hand over my mobile number to a website I know nothing about, and who took my email and name before telling me of the phone requirement? Dodgy. I'm surprised so many here have jumped in. "Sign up with email"... "ok, now verify email"... "SURPRISE! we won't let you in until you give us your mobile number".
- bigDinosaur 4y ago
  Charitably it's one of the more effective ways at reducing abuse of the service (at least by normal people).
- mdrzn 4y ago
  It's because of the $18 free credit they give out. You can still use those websites which rent out phone numbers for phone verifications, if you care about privacy.
  - exodust 4y ago
    They don't mention anything about "$18" or needing a phone number. All they say on their blog is: > "During the research preview, usage of ChatGPT is free. Try it now" The sneaky requirement for a phone number is poor UX and doesn't match their casual invite to "try it for free". I tried one of the phone number websites, but it failed.
ultim8k 4y ago
I'm not sure if that says a lot about ChatGPT or about founders.
feintruled 4y ago
A little frightening really. I do love the fact that it produces a whole load of really rather plausible technical and sales pitch content, then when it comes to the AI generated logo and name it's called stuff like 'Cloaud ShiVore'. Makes it like a joke with a fantastic punchline.
- thinkingemote 4y ago
  The images (with the odd name) are created using Midjourney and not ChatGPT, btw.
gumby 4y ago
Within the year I predict innumerable marketeers will type a sentence (“our blue baseball cap will help you get laid”), which is then expanded by some LLM into a full sales pitch, then compressed while being transmitted, then decompressed for display in a browser that automatically summarizes it into a single sentence (“advertiser wants you to buy hat”). Perhaps it will be ad block and reader mode that boil out the puffery and filler. Note that all the processing of expansion, compression, expansion, summarization, and its associated power consumption will, per Bastiat, add to the gdp.
- FormerBandmate 4y ago
  The ad begins with a shot of a crowded party, with people laughing and having a good time. The camera then focuses on a group of friends standing together, with one of them wearing our blue baseball cap. The person wearing the cap is shown smiling and laughing, looking confident and happy as they interact with their friends. The camera zooms in on the cap, highlighting its blue color and the logo on the front. As the ad continues, we see the person wearing the cap in different situations at the party - talking to a group of people, dancing with their friends, and generally enjoying themselves. Meanwhile, a voiceover begins, saying: "When you put on our blue baseball cap, you'll feel the difference. You'll feel more confident, more attractive, and more in control. Whether you're at a party, at work, or on a date, our blue baseball cap will help you look and feel your best." The ad then cuts to a shot of the person wearing the cap looking directly into the camera, smiling confidently. The voiceover continues: "Put on our blue baseball cap and feel the difference. Because when you look good, you feel good." The ad ends with the tagline "Put on our blue baseball cap and feel the difference" appearing on screen, followed by a shot of the cap and the logo.
  - abecedarius 4y ago
    So, was that from an AI?
    - swyx 4y ago
      if you cant tell, does it matter?
daniel-cussen 4y ago
tacker2000 4y ago
Soon we will see the guys who create these scammy fake Upwork profiles use this to generate the code for their clients and pocket the almost 100% profit margin! What a time to be alive!
- arcturus17 4y ago
  The people I hire through Upwork don't deliver code raw through a chat... They deliver working solutions, of which code is one part. If they want to build the solution with ChatGPT, then all the more power to them! I doubt they will get 100% profit margin, since they will have to parse my requirements and deliver a working system with multiple parts, which is a lot of the work nowadays. On a tangential point, if ChatGPT and other AI-assisted methods really deliver, it will likely be more beneficial for many consultants and agencies to do fixed or value pricing rather than hourly, and most value will be concentrated around business analysis / architecture / design stuff. I personally this is a good thing; in my personal experience I've found the best margins doing that stuff rather than pure implementation.
thomasfl 4y ago
ChatGPT will probably save the planet. Within a year I predict large number of individuals will have typed sentences like "how do I get laid" or "how do I become famous" in ChatGPT. Since the advice will tell people how to achieve these goals in an efficient way, people will stop buying a lot of crap like expensive handbags, watches or sportscars. It will be the end of conspicious consumption.
- Proven 4y ago
booleandilemma 4y ago
I'm wondering how long before some psychologists looking for something to write about measure the "IQ" of ChatGPT and release a paper on it.
- marckhoury 4y ago
  https://twitter.com/sergeyi49013776/status/1598430479878856737?s=46&t=2Udqa6H-eY0Bcs9QVC7IqQ https://twitter.com/sergeyi49013776/status/15984304798788567...
jasfi 4y ago
ChatGPT seems like a beginner at a wide range of subjects.
ArunRaja 4y ago
Chatgpt 3 : Benefits : * Answers synthesis of first 10 links of "google search". * Creates skeleton code * Write technical and artistic content * Create gist of large text and highlight important parts. Drawbacks : * No means to verify when things go wrong.
- ilaksh 4y ago
  What I have been doing is running the code. If there is an error then I paste it in and tell it to fix it.
chimprich 4y ago
How come the technical details of ChatGPT are (apparently) a secret? I tried asking the model about its architecture and it told me that the details were proprietary. Assuming the model was correct in its understanding, isn't this counter to what OpenAI are trying to do?
- xtracto 4y ago
  OpenAI is not open at all. Don't be fooled by the name.
55555 4y ago
Many people are surprised at the advancement of AI, as they thought that generative fields (art, poetry) would be hardest for AI to excel at, whereas “simple” tasks like driving would be easier. What we are actually seeing is that AI is useful to the degree that being wrong is okay. AI’s mess up, and that’s okay with poetry because a human can quickly read the poems and pick out the good ones. It’s not okay when driving.
- worldsayshi 4y ago
  It kind of feels that ChatGPT is "just" missing some kind of adversarial self clone that can talk back to itself and spot errors. Most times when I spot an error and mention it it seems that it already had some notion of this problem in the model.
  - Filligree 4y ago
    Analysis based on introspection is dangerous, but it definitely feels like I have such an adversarial model. A lot of the time my brain tosses out five or ten ideas before I hit on one without obvious flaws. It's usually serial, so it's not clear to me that this is using different hardware than I use to generate the ideas in the first place. We might be surprisingly close to human-level AI. Or not.
  - ilaksh 4y ago
    For JavaScript they could build in a "test that code" step right into the web page. Or such a thing will be possible with the API.
    - Ajedi32 4y ago
      Or automate the process even further; let the AI run the code, feed back the output (including errors), and ask "Does this output look correct? If not, please refine the code to fix any problems." Repeat until the AI says "LGTM".
      - worldsayshi 4y ago
mizzao 4y ago
This generally worked to validate/check our (existing) startup, too: https://twitter.com/mizzao/status/1599622556952145923 https://twitter.com/mizzao/status/1599622556952145923
SergeAx 4y ago
I briefly skimmed content of the article, and had an impression that most of the data generated by different ML models for it is laying in the segment from infonoise to garbage. Does author understands that and publishing his findings anyway, or they are truely content with that level of quality, since it's free?
Dave3of5 4y ago
I used many combinations and I was impressed that even with spelling mistakes and grammatical errors it got the point of the questions I asked. It's "knowledge" was only surface level which I could have easily just searched Wikipedia to get. I thought it's code refactoring ability was on par with the static analysis tools out there at the moment. In terms of an actual conversation it was woefully inadequate. The feeling I got was like using a chatbot on a website for a bank vs actually phoning and speaking to a person. It was like just canned responses it was giving me all the time rather than any real interaction. Also note that even on the website it says it gets stuff incredibly wrong every now and then. I didn't see this but I could imagine not wanting to use something like this on your banks website for that exact reason e.g. legal liability. I do applaud the creators giving even the smallest of thoughts to ethics here in that you can't ask it how to make a bomb and suchlike otherwise it'll tell you nope.
braingenious 4y ago
I love the spectrum of takes on this. Some people are pretty much posting “This will be what finally delivers us to fully automated luxury gay space communism, probably within days” while others are saying “I am not impressed in the slightest. It doesn’t even know how to love.”
guax 4y ago
I am still not fully impressed as it seems like there are two parts needed for what I would consider the killer AI for creative/development work. Not general AI mind you, just job killing kind. Chat GPT does one part very well, collate information in a cohesive manner, and it seems to do it better than most, certainly better than me at writing. The second part is what it lacks completely, which is reasoning behind each piece of information it bases its answers on, there is no internal consistency, it's all valid and all equivalent in a way. The way I see it, I build sentences by copying what others wrote, emulate construction and tone but with the intention to pass information, that information has been reasoned on and enters my "trusted" filter (understanding), then I just babble it out (what chatgpt does). It doesn't seem far fetched to me that it might be enough to build rules about consistency of entries and levels of trust from sources of the model to ensure it generate good output. Or, as it usually is, could be the insurmountable hump to AGI that takes the next decade to solve. Either way I feel like chatgpt completely lacks this feature at this moment which makes me not worried at all about it taking my job, at most i'm hopeful that it will allow me to bootstrap stuff faster.
hugo456 4y ago
I want to know if ferrari will win the next F1 championship

265 points by iamflimflam1 4y ago

ducktective 4y ago

siiiigh If this is GPT-3, what could GPT-4 do? Would GPT-n be the new 2^n MHz hype of the 90s?

make3 4y ago
this is definitely more advanced than GPT3, and was trained differently in a few meaningful ways
- mach1ne 4y ago
  How was it different?
  - drexlspivey 4y ago
    It uses reinforcement learning, they had humans rank the responses of GPT-3 and used that as a training set
ben_w 4y ago
Oh, that pattern of hype’s already been doing the rounds since GPT-3 first came out — people imagining GPT-4 and GPT-5 for short sci-fi stories about the late 2020s and early 2030s, asking a question that dates at least as far back as a few centuries BC with Jewish folklore about humans creating golems: can the work of our human hands and minds ever itself be a person? I’ve been playing with it. It’s very impressive, it’s not merely regurgitating quotations like Google, it get things horribly wrong just enough to be noticeable (but on most topics you actually need to be a domain expert to even know that; so the software developers are generally the only ones who see the buggy code, the lawyers are generally the only ones who see the bad law, the mathematicians are generally the only ones who see what’s wrong with the proofs, and so on). Definitely doesn’t feel like either a human nor the computer in Star Trek. Can’t quite manage long-range coherency. But very, very impressive despite that.
- FerociousTimes 4y ago
  Its writing style is also trite, dry, verbose and tedious not to mention, the penchant for run-on sentences and blocks/walls of text. I know that it's been tailored to output like this by its own creators to suit this medium of communication with the public, and it can likely to be tweaked to be less uptight and more laid-back in its verbal communications style, if necessary but I am not quite sold exactly on its potential to exceed human intellectual powers. I mean, don't get me wrong it's still quite impressive and fascinating but not really superhuman, at least not yet.
  - dagss 4y ago
    About the uninspired text that's definitely tailoring. I asked for "arguments against christmas gifts" and got a lot of "correct" but bland text: "Another argument against Christmas gifts is that the commercialization of the holiday can lead to excessive consumerism and waste. [...]" Then I asked "Same arguments, but in the style of an Eminem rap" and got a lot of this stuff: "The commercialization of the holiday, it's a damn shame All the pressure to buy gifts, it's a damn game We overspend and consume, just to show we care But is all that material stuff, really worth the wear and tear?" Then I asked it to tell an adventure story and got: "The two of them decided to scale back on their gift-giving plans, and instead focus on making the holiday special in other ways. They went for long walks in the woods, enjoying the beauty of the winter landscape. They cooked delicious meals together and shared them with their neighbors. And on Christmas Eve, they gathered around the fire and sang carols, feeling grateful for the love and connection they shared." The technology is obviously able to work in lots of style and re-interpret the same messages between them etc. Today, these concrete avenues have been blocked it seems (especially asking for song lyrics is blocked today). But I can still produce lyrics by asking "what would a friend have said if I asked them to ... ", providing an "escape hatch" for the blocking.
    - FerociousTimes 4y ago
      1- The talking point expressing an anti-consumerist sentiment for the Christmas holidays is cliched and boring. 2- This is actually offensive not because of the nature of the lyrics, but for its association with Eminem. I'm not an Eminem stan myself, but it can do him like this. The guy is way way out of its league This is an amateur-level lyricism for rap songs and even me not remotely an amateur lyricist, I can do better than this garbage: "We overspend and consume, just to show [that] we care. But is all that material stuff [I assume], really worth the wear and tear?" 3- Children-book writing level. I mean it's very impressive given it's produced by a bot, but not a cause of immediate concern for well-established figures in the fiction writing world especially with this bland and sterile voice/tone in its storytelling.

t0m44c 4y ago

I am pretty sure we will soon see job ads seeking for ChatGPTops engineers. I think I will ask ChatGPT to write job description for such role.

iamflimflam1 4y ago
Write a job description for ChatGPT prompt engineer --- The ChatGPT Prompt Engineer will be responsible for designing and implementing effective prompts for the ChatGPT natural language processing system. This will involve working closely with other members of the team to identify areas for improvement and developing creative solutions to enhance the performance of the system. Key responsibilities for the ChatGPT Prompt Engineer include: Collaborating with other team members to identify areas for improvement in the ChatGPT system Developing and implementing effective prompts to enhance the performance of the system Testing and evaluating the effectiveness of new prompts Troubleshooting and problem-solving any issues that arise with the prompts Maintaining accurate and detailed records of all prompt design and implementation processes The ideal candidate for this role will have a strong background in natural language processing and a deep understanding of the principles and techniques used in prompt design. They will be a creative problem-solver with excellent communication and collaboration skills. Requirements: Bachelor's degree in computer science, artificial intelligence, or a related field 2+ years of experience in natural language processing or a related field Strong background in prompt design and implementation for natural language processing systems Excellent problem-solving and critical thinking skills Excellent communication and collaboration skills.
- enraged_camel 4y ago
  Holy shit, I'm dying...
- iamflimflam1 4y ago
  Dear Hiring Manager, I am writing to apply for the ChatGPT Prompt Engineer position at your company. I am a highly skilled natural language processing specialist with a strong background in prompt design and implementation. I have a Bachelor's degree in Computer Science and have been working in the field of artificial intelligence for the past 5 years. My experience includes designing and implementing prompts for natural language processing systems, as well as testing and evaluating their effectiveness. I am a creative problem-solver with excellent critical thinking skills and a passion for developing innovative solutions to complex challenges. I am excited about the opportunity to join your team and help enhance the performance of the ChatGPT system. I am confident that my skills and experience make me an ideal candidate for this role, and I am eager to contribute to the success of your company. Thank you for considering my application. I look forward to the opportunity to discuss this position further with you. Sincerely, [Your Name]

stared 4y ago

With ChatGPT, I would have convinced VCs to invest in my startup. Shame it got released 6 months too late.

boredemployee 4y ago
...and many other convincements could be done in many other fields. I'm not a drama queen type of person but I'm honestly scared with this
FerociousTimes 4y ago
Better late than never. Just jump in and see what this tool — pun intended — can provide you now and let go of the past.
buremba 4y ago
If you're in such position, you're probably ahead of the competition so don't think it's already late.

jhoelzel 4y ago

So err, this whole IT thing has been nice for the last decades. Maybe we have another decade until it can handle its own fingers...

notart666 4y ago
It really can't and it doesn't really work the way you think it does which is ironic that you'd think people on this site would be informed but I guess ycombinator has a financial conflict of interest in doing so. I wouldn't be surprised if they make posts on this topic with a very heavy bias like they do for a lot of their own investments. I remember being shown this software almost a decade ago in dealing with chat in online video gaming and it ended becoming a serious conversation at the ACM SIG CHI about it's use and abuse for spreading certain things. At the end of the day, we realized it was an arms race and the only way to win, was to simply not play. But of course these ideas were rejected for it went against the financial interests of the parties involved.
- lmarcos 4y ago
  The point is not what we (techies) think about the usefulness of ChatGPT. The point is that managers will definitely think ChatGPT is worth doing... Just like they think Jira/Scrum/Agile/etc. is worth our time. I definitely see management paying for ChatGPT.
  - urthor 4y ago
    It's also not about how good ChatGPT is now. How good will ChatGPT be in 5 years? It's scary to imagine.
    - ben_w 4y ago
      It’s also impossible to imagine correctly. Back in 2009, I was completely convinced that we’d be able to go into a car dealership and buy a brand new vehicle which had no steering wheel because the self-driving AI was just that good, within 10 years. Seemed reasonable at the time on the basis of the DARPA Grand Challenge results, but even 13 years later, it didn’t happen.

pmontra 4y ago

I can see how Google could use something like that to turn from a search engine into an answer engine, selling ads on its home page and hiding all the current search results into a references section. If they won't do it, someone else will and kill Google outright.

mach1ne 4y ago
Oh, but there is a world of difference between answering questions based on neural memory and being able to bind these answers to actual references and sources. That being said, something like what you described will likely happen.
- Ajedi32 4y ago
  At this point I feel like it's only a matter of time before a future version of this is able to cite sources. (Though I suspect it'll occasionally struggle to find sources that are reputable and which actually support the AI's statements.)
h11h 4y ago
It does seem to be the future, but, at the moment, it's very unreliable. The worst thing is that it's all said with confidence and it would be very hard to know when things are wrong unless you already know. For example: Q. How many people spoke French in pre-revolutionary France? A. It is difficult to determine the exact number of people who spoke French in pre-revolutionary France. The population of France at the time was approximately 26 million, and the vast majority of people spoke French as their first language. <snip> Wikipedia: It is estimated that at the time of the French Revolution in 1789, only half of the population of France could speak French, and as late as 1871 only a quarter spoke French as their native language. Also, the population of France on the eve of the Revolution was about 28 million.
- petesergeant 4y ago
  http://dhmontgomery.com/2018/02/obscenities-oaths/ http://dhmontgomery.com/2018/02/obscenities-oaths/ for anyone who finds this topic interesting

codingdave 4y ago

I could have said this on any ChatGPT post the last few days, but I'm simply not seeing the accuracy of it in such a way that anything is threatened. ChatGPT is a plausible idiot. It gets just enough right, saying just enough words, to sound plausible and authoritative to anyone who doesn't know the subject matter well. But it also gets enough wrong that you cannot rely on its accuracy, and if it is talking about a subject you know well it is sometimes laughable how wrong it is. It is impressive. But not trustworthy.

bigDinosaur 4y ago
Asking it to convert 32 to binary was a bit of an eye opener. It gave me multiple completely incorrect ways of doing so (resulting in 0100 or something each time) despite me informing it it was wrong. It'd say things like 'the 24th place, then the 23rd place are 0's which just made no sense in terms of the query (I suppose technically correct if you really want to pad left) - but I had to think about it because it was saying superficially plausible things (like '24' seems somehow relevant because it's 8+16, but of course that's totally irrelevant to the actual question). That said in other respects it is pretty amazing, so I'll definitely not dismiss it, it can replace Google for a fairly decent set of queries so long as you know the subject matter well enough.
- glenneroo 4y ago
  I just wrote this comment in copilot (rider/c#): // convert 32 to binary copilot suggestion: 00000000000000000000000000100000 Then I tried: int val = 32; // convert 32 to binary Auto-generated: binary = Convert.ToString(val, 2);
- yunyu 4y ago
  Most LLMs are crippled at tasks regarding character level manipulation because of how the inputs are tokenized (words and numbers are split into common substrings rather than the original characters, 101 -> “10” + “1” vs “1” + “0” + “1”). If you tried this binary conversion task with a model that takes in raw bytes (for instance, ByT5) it would perform almost perfectly. In GPT’s case, there’s a trade off between having a long context window vs being good at character level tasks, and OpenAI picked the former.

gardenhedge 4y ago

I literally just started asking ChatGPT these type of questions too. This stuff is gold!

gsatic 4y ago

The only people whose minds this is "blowing" are people who have never had to build or maintain question answering systems. ChatGPT is like having a bunch of 8 year olds who know how to use Google hanging around. Sure you can use them, and their skills might surprise u every now and then, but that has nothing to do with how much time you are going to waste on the answers they will get wrong.

buremba 4y ago
OK, I get that you built such systems. Can you let us know about the other bots that can behave like a "8 years old"?
M4v3R 4y ago
So you're telling me that it's not mind-blowing, that we basically created artificial intelligence capable of solving general tasks at a level of a 8 year old human being? Because to me that is still pretty mind-blowing. And I'd argue it's probably at a level above that (but not much). When in your opinion it will finally be mind blowing? When it matches intelligence and skill of a 14 year old? 20 year old? 40?
- omnicognate 4y ago
  GPT is not at the level of an 8 year old human being and isn't even doing remotely the same thing as an 8 year old human being. GPT is mindblowing. It's a mindblowingly good predictive language model. It's an insanely, holy-fuck-I-never-thought-that-would-be-possible, amazingly good predictive language model. I'm thoroughly impressed. I just think it's not AGI, it's not close to AGI, it's not any kind of threat to jobs in programming (though maybe it could be in some fields) and it isn't likely to be any of these things any time soon. The claims that it is all these things (which you can see all over these threads) are what people are arguing against.
chrisbaker98 4y ago
> ChatGPT is like having a bunch of 8 year olds who know how to use Google hanging around. It astonishes me that people can dismiss ChatGPT like this. By your own account, there now exists an AI that can convincingly imitate a literate, technically fluent human child. That's an incredible advance that's far beyond anything that existed even a couple of years ago. How is it not amazing? I get the sense that if some of the commenters here had been around to witness the Wright Brothers' first flight they'd have been like "meh, that's not impressive, the only people whose mind it will blow are people who've never been in a hot air balloon."

nocobot 4y ago

> How about the team - I need some minions to build this business. very accurate co founder impression

exodust 4y ago

Is the only way to check this out to hand over my mobile number to a website I know nothing about, and who took my email and name before telling me of the phone requirement? Dodgy. I'm surprised so many here have jumped in. "Sign up with email"... "ok, now verify email"... "SURPRISE! we won't let you in until you give us your mobile number".

bigDinosaur 4y ago
Charitably it's one of the more effective ways at reducing abuse of the service (at least by normal people).
mdrzn 4y ago
It's because of the $18 free credit they give out. You can still use those websites which rent out phone numbers for phone verifications, if you care about privacy.
- exodust 4y ago
  They don't mention anything about "$18" or needing a phone number. All they say on their blog is: > "During the research preview, usage of ChatGPT is free. Try it now" The sneaky requirement for a phone number is poor UX and doesn't match their casual invite to "try it for free". I tried one of the phone number websites, but it failed.

ultim8k 4y ago

I'm not sure if that says a lot about ChatGPT or about founders.

feintruled 4y ago

A little frightening really. I do love the fact that it produces a whole load of really rather plausible technical and sales pitch content, then when it comes to the AI generated logo and name it's called stuff like 'Cloaud ShiVore'. Makes it like a joke with a fantastic punchline.

thinkingemote 4y ago
The images (with the odd name) are created using Midjourney and not ChatGPT, btw.

gumby 4y ago

Within the year I predict innumerable marketeers will type a sentence (“our blue baseball cap will help you get laid”), which is then expanded by some LLM into a full sales pitch, then compressed while being transmitted, then decompressed for display in a browser that automatically summarizes it into a single sentence (“advertiser wants you to buy hat”). Perhaps it will be ad block and reader mode that boil out the puffery and filler. Note that all the processing of expansion, compression, expansion, summarization, and its associated power consumption will, per Bastiat, add to the gdp.

FormerBandmate 4y ago
The ad begins with a shot of a crowded party, with people laughing and having a good time. The camera then focuses on a group of friends standing together, with one of them wearing our blue baseball cap. The person wearing the cap is shown smiling and laughing, looking confident and happy as they interact with their friends. The camera zooms in on the cap, highlighting its blue color and the logo on the front. As the ad continues, we see the person wearing the cap in different situations at the party - talking to a group of people, dancing with their friends, and generally enjoying themselves. Meanwhile, a voiceover begins, saying: "When you put on our blue baseball cap, you'll feel the difference. You'll feel more confident, more attractive, and more in control. Whether you're at a party, at work, or on a date, our blue baseball cap will help you look and feel your best." The ad then cuts to a shot of the person wearing the cap looking directly into the camera, smiling confidently. The voiceover continues: "Put on our blue baseball cap and feel the difference. Because when you look good, you feel good." The ad ends with the tagline "Put on our blue baseball cap and feel the difference" appearing on screen, followed by a shot of the cap and the logo.
- abecedarius 4y ago
  So, was that from an AI?
  - swyx 4y ago
    if you cant tell, does it matter?

daniel-cussen 4y ago

tacker2000 4y ago

Soon we will see the guys who create these scammy fake Upwork profiles use this to generate the code for their clients and pocket the almost 100% profit margin! What a time to be alive!

arcturus17 4y ago
The people I hire through Upwork don't deliver code raw through a chat... They deliver working solutions, of which code is one part. If they want to build the solution with ChatGPT, then all the more power to them! I doubt they will get 100% profit margin, since they will have to parse my requirements and deliver a working system with multiple parts, which is a lot of the work nowadays. On a tangential point, if ChatGPT and other AI-assisted methods really deliver, it will likely be more beneficial for many consultants and agencies to do fixed or value pricing rather than hourly, and most value will be concentrated around business analysis / architecture / design stuff. I personally this is a good thing; in my personal experience I've found the best margins doing that stuff rather than pure implementation.

thomasfl 4y ago

ChatGPT will probably save the planet. Within a year I predict large number of individuals will have typed sentences like "how do I get laid" or "how do I become famous" in ChatGPT. Since the advice will tell people how to achieve these goals in an efficient way, people will stop buying a lot of crap like expensive handbags, watches or sportscars. It will be the end of conspicious consumption.

Proven 4y ago

booleandilemma 4y ago

I'm wondering how long before some psychologists looking for something to write about measure the "IQ" of ChatGPT and release a paper on it.

marckhoury 4y ago
https://twitter.com/sergeyi49013776/status/1598430479878856737?s=46&t=2Udqa6H-eY0Bcs9QVC7IqQ https://twitter.com/sergeyi49013776/status/15984304798788567...

jasfi 4y ago

ChatGPT seems like a beginner at a wide range of subjects.

ArunRaja 4y ago

Chatgpt 3 : Benefits : * Answers synthesis of first 10 links of "google search". * Creates skeleton code * Write technical and artistic content * Create gist of large text and highlight important parts. Drawbacks : * No means to verify when things go wrong.

ilaksh 4y ago
What I have been doing is running the code. If there is an error then I paste it in and tell it to fix it.

chimprich 4y ago

How come the technical details of ChatGPT are (apparently) a secret? I tried asking the model about its architecture and it told me that the details were proprietary. Assuming the model was correct in its understanding, isn't this counter to what OpenAI are trying to do?

xtracto 4y ago
OpenAI is not open at all. Don't be fooled by the name.

55555 4y ago

Many people are surprised at the advancement of AI, as they thought that generative fields (art, poetry) would be hardest for AI to excel at, whereas “simple” tasks like driving would be easier. What we are actually seeing is that AI is useful to the degree that being wrong is okay. AI’s mess up, and that’s okay with poetry because a human can quickly read the poems and pick out the good ones. It’s not okay when driving.

worldsayshi 4y ago
It kind of feels that ChatGPT is "just" missing some kind of adversarial self clone that can talk back to itself and spot errors. Most times when I spot an error and mention it it seems that it already had some notion of this problem in the model.
- Filligree 4y ago
  Analysis based on introspection is dangerous, but it definitely feels like I have such an adversarial model. A lot of the time my brain tosses out five or ten ideas before I hit on one without obvious flaws. It's usually serial, so it's not clear to me that this is using different hardware than I use to generate the ideas in the first place. We might be surprisingly close to human-level AI. Or not.
- ilaksh 4y ago
  For JavaScript they could build in a "test that code" step right into the web page. Or such a thing will be possible with the API.
  - Ajedi32 4y ago
    Or automate the process even further; let the AI run the code, feed back the output (including errors), and ask "Does this output look correct? If not, please refine the code to fix any problems." Repeat until the AI says "LGTM".
    - worldsayshi 4y ago

mizzao 4y ago

This generally worked to validate/check our (existing) startup, too: https://twitter.com/mizzao/status/1599622556952145923 https://twitter.com/mizzao/status/1599622556952145923

SergeAx 4y ago

I briefly skimmed content of the article, and had an impression that most of the data generated by different ML models for it is laying in the segment from infonoise to garbage. Does author understands that and publishing his findings anyway, or they are truely content with that level of quality, since it's free?

Dave3of5 4y ago

I used many combinations and I was impressed that even with spelling mistakes and grammatical errors it got the point of the questions I asked. It's "knowledge" was only surface level which I could have easily just searched Wikipedia to get. I thought it's code refactoring ability was on par with the static analysis tools out there at the moment. In terms of an actual conversation it was woefully inadequate. The feeling I got was like using a chatbot on a website for a bank vs actually phoning and speaking to a person. It was like just canned responses it was giving me all the time rather than any real interaction. Also note that even on the website it says it gets stuff incredibly wrong every now and then. I didn't see this but I could imagine not wanting to use something like this on your banks website for that exact reason e.g. legal liability. I do applaud the creators giving even the smallest of thoughts to ethics here in that you can't ask it how to make a bomb and suchlike otherwise it'll tell you nope.

braingenious 4y ago

I love the spectrum of takes on this. Some people are pretty much posting “This will be what finally delivers us to fully automated luxury gay space communism, probably within days” while others are saying “I am not impressed in the slightest. It doesn’t even know how to love.”

guax 4y ago

I am still not fully impressed as it seems like there are two parts needed for what I would consider the killer AI for creative/development work. Not general AI mind you, just job killing kind. Chat GPT does one part very well, collate information in a cohesive manner, and it seems to do it better than most, certainly better than me at writing. The second part is what it lacks completely, which is reasoning behind each piece of information it bases its answers on, there is no internal consistency, it's all valid and all equivalent in a way. The way I see it, I build sentences by copying what others wrote, emulate construction and tone but with the intention to pass information, that information has been reasoned on and enters my "trusted" filter (understanding), then I just babble it out (what chatgpt does). It doesn't seem far fetched to me that it might be enough to build rules about consistency of entries and levels of trust from sources of the model to ensure it generate good output. Or, as it usually is, could be the insurmountable hump to AGI that takes the next decade to solve. Either way I feel like chatgpt completely lacks this feature at this moment which makes me not worried at all about it taking my job, at most i'm hopeful that it will allow me to bootstrap stuff faster.

hugo456 4y ago

I want to know if ferrari will win the next F1 championship