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MSN replaced journalists with AI publishing fake news about mermaids and Bigfoot
- wellthatsawrap1 4y ago
- trident1000 4y ago
- baxtr 4y agoWhat Intel are you referring to?
- CrazyPyroLinux 4y agoProbably https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598822959866683394 https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598822959866683394
- trident5000 4y agoI think hes talking about a thread on Twitter where it was exposed the Biden admin was working with Twitter employees to take down content for political reasons.
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- nickthegreek 4y agoThat’s one way of stating it. Another would be that people associated with the private citizen Biden requested that Twitter review tweets that were against the tos. Those tweets appear to be revenge porn. Twitter took down some.
- deadly_syn 4y agoCan you really consider someone who has held public office for that long (or their immediate family) as a private citizen? Even if you were friends with the biden family before they had any political power, would you not prioritize what they ask of you after they gained that power? People like having famous and powerful friends usually and will go out of their way to keep them.
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- nickthegreek 4y agoWell it sounds like the argument you want to make is that it’s wrong if the people in power request Twitter to enforce their tos on specific tweets? If so, it might interest you to know that the actual administration in charge at the time also requested tweets to be removed for tos violations and those some of those were honored too. If anything, I believe, in the interest of tranparency, Twitter should make all such requests from governments available to the public moving forward.
- deadly_syn 4y agoI believe that to be a mischaracterization of my statement, I made no comment on the morality/fairness. Just that IMO atleast humans will always inheritly operate with bias. This bias can be unintentionally exploited to enable a form of social coersion. Hunter biden is gonna be seen by people as joe bidens son, because that is a literal fact. Unless the twitter employees were approached anonymously you have to assume that bias to be in play.
- trident5000 4y ago
- bhawks 4y agoLast week YouTuber Allen Pan launched Canadian United Media in response to CNN using one of his previous videos unattributed on their platforms. The site is all AI generated from a model trained on CNN content. Funny to see MSN putting another Allen Pan idea in to practice. https://youtu.be/lCSrN-e_dkE https://youtu.be/lCSrN-e_dkE https://canadian-united.media/ https://canadian-united.media/
- dpflan 4y agoExcellent, indeed, this will happen more and more, completely made up infinite content that seems very real, news site, entire functioning social graphs/networks with believable characters...
- djkivi 4y agoCUM?
- andirk 4y agoBetter than Clinton Network Network. And it being Canadien makes CUM a lot more digestible. EOM!
- Aeolun 4y agoAh yes, I can see how someone could mistake this for a real news article: https://canadian-united.media/2022/12/03/your-guide-to-finding-the-right-theragun-massage-gun-for-you-36/ https://canadian-united.media/2022/12/03/your-guide-to-findi...
- doodlesdev 4y agoThis is comedy gold https://canadian-united.media/2022/12/03/poor-sleep-can-make-you-prickly-heres-what-to-do/ https://canadian-united.media/2022/12/03/poor-sleep-can-make...
- dpflan 4y agoWere the main images for each article generated by AI too? They are pretty funky, especially the "Fishermen Catch Mermaid Creature in Their Nets" (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/fishermen-catch-mermaid-creature-in-their-nets/ar-AA14qtpo https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/fishermen-catch-me...).
- dicknuckle 4y agoLooks more like a heavily cropped image of an actual statue than an AI image to me.
- muststopmyths 4y agoWhat a sad shitshow. News used to be a really good app on windows phone.
- civilized 4y agoI'm confused about what "the rules" are for fake news. Once we a week we go to the supermarket, and lining the checkout aisle we see tabloids peddling what seem to be obviously false celebrity gossip stories, but presented as news. This has been going on for as long as I can remember - so, at least 30 years. I guess we're supposed to be alarmed here because MSN was once not a tabloid? Not that I would know, I've never read it.
- bombcar 4y agoAmusingly enough if you actually read the tabloids (or at least decades ago this was true) they often were just reprints of actual small-time news stories; the tabloids basically made the front cover out of "Bob in Bobville said what his brother done got et by a hornytoad".
- kibwen 4y agoAnd on the other hand, there's Weekly World News: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weekly_World_News https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weekly_World_News
- TedDoesntTalk 4y agoWere they the ones who published the Bat Boy series? I loved it.
- B1FF_PSUVM 4y agoThe research bulletin of Men in Black if memory serves, although wiki puts it more mildly.
- MonkeyMalarky 4y agoYes? It is the steady and constant decline and spread that is the problem.
- civilized 4y agoI tend to agree, just thinking out loud. Filling grandma's trusted news page with nonsense is elder abuse, and could be much worse if they hit her with, say, antivax conspiracies at the right time.
- duxup 4y agoI always assumed this was happening to an extent already, particularly with sports. In the sports news world you get all sorts of "season previews" and various articles with "each team's strength's and weaknesses". If you weren't a fan of big name teams you'd inevitably find with your team: coaches mentioned who weren't there anymore, players who weren't there anymore, and various outdated factoids / concerns thrown in. Some "concerns" almost felt like an AI trained on fan forums where issues fans had, but had no place in reality were raised, with even local fan forum lingo tossed in ... If it was a person, or a script that generated content that got doctored by a person I don't know, but the patter was very clear.
- awillen 4y agoThat sounds like it's roughly on the level of Steven A. Smith.
- EscargotCult 4y agoThis is already happening with stock "analysis" that you see on Yahoo Finance for any given symbol. For example, take a look at https://stocks.apple.com/AbKUdK1ZvSFK4NdaMwMd27w https://stocks.apple.com/AbKUdK1ZvSFK4NdaMwMd27w
- notatoad 4y agoyeah, the content on MSN has been indistinguishable from AI-generated content for a long time now, long before AI has gotten as good as it is today. if MSN has been human-curated all this time, that's a little bit embarrasing for the humans. turning it over to the AI is hardly going to make it worse
- andirk 4y agoMSDNC has always been the propaganda wing for a certain pol party and not as random as ML-generated content; their marching orders are extremely specific. Fox News is similar but way funnier in their delivery.
- DemocracyFTW2 4y agoFunny how these days everybody seems to think that the world should be run without anybody else.
- fjsofkjdsfkos 4y agoI think people are somewhat misunderstanding what's going on in this story. MSN's AI isn't generating stories wholesale like GPT-3 -- it's selecting other publications' stories from across the web for syndication, but doing it automatically after the company fired the team previously responsible for that curation process in 2020. Unfortunately, this new system is clearly not exercising good judgment about what articles or publications are credible, because of the ridiculous stuff that it's republishing from fake news sites about bigfoot, mermaids, monsters on Mars etc.
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- heather45879 4y agoI’d like to point out this extends to the actual Windows 11 OS because they relentlessly push National-Enquirer calibre news to users. Want to get something done? Hit Windows key and start searching for that app you want to use—only to be force-fed a bunch of celebrity gossip because it prefix-matches the search term and they want to sell Ad impressions. I used to have high hopes for some of Microsoft’s innovations like Zune, Windows Phone, connect, Rosalyn—that glimmer of open-source-hope from the Evil Empire. But it’s obvious now they are not really good at anything in the consumer space anymore: Hopping on the ad bandwagon because that’s what Google does; stealing the OS X taskbar placement for no good reason; turning the OS into the spyware folks used to dread at the turn of the millennium; now we need apps to remove Windows features just to use our computers.
- Aeolun 4y agoOddly enough the thing driving more advanced users to linux now isn’t that Linux is so good. It’s that MS and Windows are so bad.
- joe_the_user 4y agoLinux isn't bad, especially Ubuntu with the Mate interface but every time I use my employer's Windows machine, it's like "holy crap, if I was dependent on this at home, I'd be like serf or something".
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- ok123456 4y agoDid anyone notice?
- this_steve_j 4y agoI would classify this sort of info-entertainment masquerading as journalism as “zombie news” or perhaps “garbage pail news”. It lacks a sufficiently insidious motive to be considered “fake” news, although an argument could be made that it erodes trust in traditional media outlets when a publication with significant reach goes fallow. It has all the trappings of a media outlet but none of the editorial brains.
- musicale 4y agoAfter two years of pandemic/polarization/climate disaster/war/recession/etc. doom and gloom I'm kind of ready for some reporting on mermaids and Bigfoot. Maybe they should bring back the print edition of the Weekly World News. MSN might also consider adding The Onion since it seems about as accurate as many published news sources.
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- nmz 4y agoThis doesn't seem like a credible news source.
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- hanafudafan 4y agoI'd rather have machines writing fake news than humans, personally.
- pram 4y agoWhat is MSN supposed to be these days? Like Google/Apple News? It used to be their dialup service, what a weird relic to keep floating around.
- topkai22 4y agoShockingly, it may still be a dial up internet service. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/msn-dial-up-internet-access/cfq7ttc0kgvg?wa=wsignin1.0 https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/msn-dial-up-internet-acces...
- ZoomerCretin 4y agoGiven that real news rarely has real relevance to our daily lives, does this really matter? 90% of news could be fan fiction, and nothing would change.
- simple10 4y agoI thought this was a spoof article until crosschecking it. Lol. The AI feedback loop has begun. Soon, most articles will be rewording of other AI generated articles. I'm not sure how to feel about it. In theory, it might be a step of from current status quo once the AI is trained up to journalistic standards.
- photochemsyn 4y agoI had to quit using DuckDuckGo's News service since it puts MSN garbage at the top of all its search results (DDG is just a wrapper around Bing, AFAIK).
- andirk 4y agoMSNDC have reported far more dangerous lies than a swimming Bigfoot. AI oddly has more integrity at times because it is not necessarily beholden to its handlers as a lot of mainstream media pundits are.
- mkagenius 4y ago@dang would it better to change the title to suggest that its propagating instead of writing/publishing..
- mirekrusin 4y agoSoon every piece of information will have cryptographic claim(s) attached. Everything that can attach it will have cryptographic identity. Everything will likely evolve into some (weighted/probabilistic?) crypto-tree of trust. There won't be absolute truth, only truth scores according to some defined trust sets/trees. Imagine fake news, pictures, videos, voice generated at scale, indistinguishable by humans from real information. It's easy when we talk about monsters on Mars, but not so much if it talked about some spectral analysis of organic compound deposits etc. We're going to be flooded with this stuff very soon and people will have to employ flat-earther's approach to rationality [0] if we don't decorate information with crypto-metadata or find another solution to this problem. Imagine if we're making mistake in 1 fake out of 1mln cases now and what we'll do if we start having 1 true out of 1mln fake pieces of information available. Generating fake information will be very cheap and generation available to anybody. You won't know anymore if this new Gruffalo book was written by authors or generated by AI. You can only guess that this new Beatles song about twitter is probably fake (but looks so real) etc. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8DQSM-b2cc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8DQSM-b2cc
- ShredKazoo 4y agoIt's the "BS singularity". AIs trained on BS from the internet write even more BS, which gets published on the internet, until the entire internet is BS.
- js4ever 4y agoThe news here for me: MSN still exist!
- simondotau 4y agoI can't believe that this news publisher is using artificial intelligence to write their articles. I understand that technology is constantly evolving and we should be embracing it, but using AI to write news articles is just a mistake. Not only does it take away jobs from journalists, but it also leads to mistakes in the articles. I recently read an article from this publisher that had several errors and it just goes to show that AI cannot replace the human touch and expertise in journalism. I hope that this publisher reconsiders their decision and relies on humans to produce accurate and reliable news. [written by ChatGPT]
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