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People pretending to be laid-off Twitter employees carrying boxes outside of HQ
- killingtime74 4y agoThese are the comedians we are looking for
- opjjf 4y agoI would guess it's not just data engineering but a big part of the engineering org. Or why would you single out such a team?
- mikkergp 4y agoIt’s a vague term so I wasn’t sure what they did but if your goal is less moderation, maybe you assume you don’t need “data engineers”
- raarts 4y agoMaybe these were the people counting the bots?
- dekhn 4y agoThis group almost certainly was producing all the metrics that Musk didn't like to look at. The morale-meter at the company must be negative at this point.
- ebrescia 4y agoThat would be my gut - he felt like they weren't getting the data they needed. If he's doing layoffs/firing that quickly, he's most certainly doing it to make a point to the rest of the company. That's the only reason you would do something like that that fast. Not endorsing it or weighing either way. Just stating the facts.
- nkassis 4y agoHe seems to disagree with their conclusions based on gut feelings.
- newaccount2021 4y ago
- d23 4y agoThe level of narcissism here is astounding. The notion you can step in on day one to a complex organization and immediately have all the answers is psychotic.
- colechristensen 4y agoTo be fair as part of the purchasing process, musk has had plenty of inside information for quite a while now.
- necubi 4y agoThat would have been true, if he had been working towards closing in a good-faith way instead of claiming repeatedly to have canceled the deal and fighting it in court.
- drstewart 4y ago
- dudeDDRrulez 4y agoCopy and pasting the parent post? Or are you just admitting to the world that you’re a bot account
- drstewart 4y agoYeah, you got me. I'm a bot account. Nailed it. You must have been one of the Twitter data engineers.
- dudeDDRrulez 4y agoI guess I was fooled by the exact wording you used like the parent poster. Was there any particular reason for that?
- 999900000999 4y agoLooks like winter is here. Between this and the Meta layoffs , the era of 500k TC might be over.
- mikkergp 4y agoSince twitter is private, we won’t necessarily get regular updates into the health of the company, right?
- kmeisthax 4y agoElon financed the deal, so presumably the bank that loaned him all this money could demand information from Elon, or demand that Elon recollateralize the loan[0] if he were to destroy Twitter's value. That's of course assuming the bank asked for any of this when negotiating financing. You can see this in his recent statements walking back the whole "free speech extremist" thing. Putting aside the fact that Elon does not practice what he preaches, and my personal belief that free speech should not be afforded to censorious political ideologies[1], you simply cannot run a 100% unrestricted free-for-all and expect to make money off of it. Users don't want to use a platform full of spam, advertisers do not want to be on the same platform as Nazis, etc. If Elon had self-financed everything then none of the above would apply and he could do anything he wants with it. Unban everyone, ban everyone, shut the whole thing down, etc. [0] Repay the loan immediately to compensate for the loss in value of the property - in this case, Twitter's potential sale value. [1] Nazis and tankies[2]. No freedom for dictators. [2] Authoritarian-left on the political compass. The people who deny the holodomor, cheered for the Soviet Union crushing Yugoslavia in the 70s, think Ukraine is actually run by neo-Nazis (it's not), etc.
- kart23 4y agosource for meta layoffs please?
- 999900000999 4y agoLooks like I got a bit jumpy, but I can't imagine their won't be layoffs. Regardless, things aren't going to be fun for tech workers anytime soon. https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-managers-are-warning-employees-of-impending-layoffs-meta-2022-10 https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-managers-are-warnin...
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- arcturus17 4y agoWhy data engineering in particular?
- dragontamer 4y agoI'm not sure if its anything in particular quite yet. Note that this is a leveraged buyout, where Twitter has taken on $13,000,000,000 in debt to support the buyout. A lot of this debt (at least $3 Billion) is unsecured-loans expected to be rated CCC or worse... a rating that yields 16% APY. Overall, the debt is estimated to cost 10% and getting worse (as interest rates rise), suggesting a ~$1.3 Billion/year hole in Twitters finances right now. --------- For better or worse, Elon Musk's only sane financial option is to fire huge swaths of the company. He's gotta find $1.3 Billion/year in costs and fix that. Firing thousands of engineers will get him... partially there. Of course, Elon should have been trying to grow the company, but that seems a lot harder than just firing a ton of people. I'm sure Elon is also a vindictive asshole, so he also probably wants to get back at the team who brought up Twitter's arguments for mDAU numbers in court. It doesn't matter if the team was right or wrong, they were against Elon and therefore are to be terminated. IMO anyway, that's my read on his psyche right now. The fact that Elon can also "rationalize" it as a good business move is icing on the cake. He's really gotta cut costs to have any hopes of making this work.
- viig99 4y agoWhich is good, he is invested in making it work, much better for the customer compared to whatever the product currently is.
- dragontamer 4y ago> he is invested in making it work No he isn't. Its a leveraged buyout. Twitter owns the debt. Elon owns Twitter, but can let Twitter go bankrupt on its own and cut his losses. As far as I can tell, Elon Musk is just invested at "getting back" at everyone who forced him to buy this company at way overpriced values. He's fired the CEO, CFO, Legal Team, and now the data-engineers who supported the legal team's arguments. Its... like... actually really straightforward.
- babelfish 4y agoIs this how he's solving the bot problem? By terminating everyone with the ability to measure them? Edit: Article is likely fake https://twitter.com/GergelyOrosz/status/1586058607585812481 https://twitter.com/GergelyOrosz/status/1586058607585812481
- colechristensen 4y agoOr by firing the whole team responsible and starting over.
- spacemadness 4y agoYeah, good luck with that. I guess if you pay enough they will come but they need to settle in and figure out a plan. It won’t happen immediately. I certainly wouldn’t sign up to work for a company that just fires entire orgs without a real plan.
- christophilus 4y ago> without a real plan My guess is there's a plan. You don't spend $44B or whatever it was without a plan. Or... well, I wouldn't. But with Musk, anything's possible.
- dylan604 4y agoTo be fair, he tried pretty hard to not do it. He ran his mouth, now he's dealing with it as he sees fit since he bought it. He can throw a tantrum all he wants. He's never going to see the repercussions of his knee jerk reactions, but all of the people on the receiving end are now rethinking their holiday plans. I honestly hope he ends up killing Twitter. Maybe we can convince him to buy the next social platform and then lather, rinse, repeat until he becomes the savior we didn't want but the savior we needed in eliminating the cancer that social has become.
- dragontamer 4y agoElon Musk's plan _literally_ 3 weeks ago was to complain to the judge that too many bots were on Twitter, and therefore Elon Musk doesn't have to buy Twitter. Some of us have more memory than a goldfish ya know? It wasn't even a month ago that Elon Musk was 100% full tilt "too many bots on Twitter / Twitter not worth this money". We get that Musk has to _pretend_ that he likes the company now. But we all know its the judge who forced him to do this.
- tptacek 4y agoFrom LinkedIn, it looks like people at Twitter with this title are intimately involved in ad sales, BI and projections, and anti-abuse.
- TiredGuy 4y agoIf true, that would make a lot more sense. Can someone please provide a reference link to corroborate?
- morelisp 4y agoDo you really need corroboration that this is what most data engineers do at most companies?
- tptacek 4y agoI don't have a reference for it. I simply went to LinkedIn and searched for Data Engineers at Twitter, and looked at their bulleted lists of what they do in the role. I got the impression that it was a relatively small team, but someone close to Twitter could tell me I'm 100% wrong about that, and I wouldn't be shocked.
- fzeroracer 4y agoFiring everyone the moment you pick up a company without knowing whose important or having that institutional knowledge transfer occur is a really good way to just completely destroy it. Never mind that no one with a sane mind is gonna work for Twitter knowing they'll have to pick up the pieces.
- freemrkt8 4y agoI love living in a society where oligarchs can have their way with us and that’s “freedom”.
- bpodgursky 4y agoI somehow think the $350k data engineers will land on their feet.
- freemrkt8 4y agoI did not mean just tech workers. Society follows the demands of a minority of wealth holders. Science minded engineers who prattle on about doing for science not “story mode”. There is no science that suggests the leaders we have are infallible. It’s all politically correct story-mode based drivel to follow these “leaders”. The technology changes but human agency has not moved on from being captured by high minded empty promises of forced expansion and growth for humanity; we’ll be long dead and never able to verify. Their past success is leveraged to prop up caricature of who we should aspire to. Meanwhile their success is traditional political corruption.
- jaywalk 4y agoYeah, it's much better when it's a bunch of Silicon Valley techies having their way with us!
- DarknessFalls 4y ago
- dudeDDRrulez 4y agoSeriously.. we should censor medical doctors posting peer reviewed studies on Twitter. Now THAT is my kind of freedom.
- woah 4y agoWere you on the data engineering team?
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- mlindner 4y agoI think people shouldn't jump to conclusions that the firings were completely uninformed. People seem to be under the assumption that 100% of the executives and management would be against Elon. There's going to be quite a few who will talk to Elon and give opinions on what changes need to be made, probably people who were out of favor with existing management and executives. These may be people he has been talking to for quite some time, even before the deal went through. Also the tweet doesn't say if it was just the data engineering team, more than that, or a subset of people and the people fired think it's the entire team. Having gone through a layoff before, you're generally not told what subset of people were let go, just that you have been. Edit: The linked tweet in question has also been deleted...
- tibbydudeza 4y agoThank the lord the Google Founders have withdrawn but still have ultimate control and appointed competent managers in their stead - pity the folks who ponied up some of the $$$ for this deal. A twitter super app - LOL.
- rchaud 4y agoThis is the only Twitter related link I am seeing on the HN front page. Both when logged in and logged out. What's going on? This should be one of the biggest pieces of news all year on this site.
- lovich 4y agoIt’s been coming for months cause of musk slow rolling this. I think a lot of the energy for discussing it has already been spent
- ad404b8a372f2b9 4y agoAll posts about the topic are being flagged, to the great confusion of many of us. I've seen over a dozen posts come and go since yesterday's announcement. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33366830 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33366830 I think it might be all the people seething in the comment section, 90% of the comments here are snark, quips and generally information-less.
- concinds 4y agoTesla Autopilot discussions still have good content, but the Musk-Twitter deal is far more political than technological, and, when you combine that with the (small minority) of rabid anti-Musk sentiment, I don't doubt HN is capable of discussing the topic properly. Besides, it's hard to go beyond "free speech!" vs "worse harassment!", there isn't much more to say.
- burkaman 4y agoIt is a little surprising but honestly a lot of people here just don't use Twitter at all. It's like the platonic ideal of a bubble. I know it's the primary communication platform for a lot of important politicians and corporations and whatnot but I genuinely don't believe my life would be impacted in any way if Twitter collapsed tomorrow. Those people will find somewhere else to post.
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- greatpostman 4y agoConfused by the negative reactions, I see many big teams in big tech where none of the employees are providing real value.
- rchaud 4y agoThe owner paid above market price, seems like they were delivering plenty of value.
- isitmadeofglass 4y agoHe didn’t pay due to what Twitter currently is, he bought because of what he thinks he can make it. That obviously means a detour from their current direction, otherwise he would have just leaned back with his investment let things continue as they are and wait for them to become more valuable.
- pessimizer 4y ago> he bought because of what he thinks he can make it. He bought because it is his favorite place to be, he said he would as a joke, decided why not and made an offer right before a massive valuation drop, and then was forced to by the courts if he wanted to avoid disclosing a lot of personal information. I don't think that he actually fantasizes about it making money.
- concinds 4y agoThe value generated by employes determines the market capitalization, not the delta between market cap and acquisition bid. Whether you pay "above market price" or not has nothing to do with the value employees provide, but with how friendly or hostile the board and shareholders may be, or how willing to sell they are.
- IX-103 4y agoFalse. The value generated by employees only loosely determine the market capitalization. Market cap is driven primarily by perceptions of future market cap. Employees don't suddenly become less productive because the stock market has a bad day.
- wallawe 4y agotweet already deleted? might have jumped the gun
- powera 4y agoTweet is gone. Apparently the "fired" worker was a performance actor going by the name of Mr. Ligma.
- all2 4y agoIs there a source for this?
- ryzvonusef 4y agohttps://www.theverge.com/2022/10/28/23428775/twitter-fake-employee-layoff-rahul-ligma-elon-musk https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/28/23428775/twitter-fake-em...
- oaththrowaway 4y agoTweet gone? Was there an actual CNBC link?
- badwolf 4y agohttps://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/28/departing-twitter-employees-say-layoffs-have-started-as-elon-musk-takes-over.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/28/departing-twitter-employees-...
- rhacker 4y agoConsidering Elon's business decisions in the past, i don't think this will break twitter. He'll likely re-hire a new team with more experience with leads from Tesla or Spacex.
- scop 4y agoAnd here come the many comments from people who have not led several highly successful businesses, with complete ignorance of what Musk may know, pontificate as to why they know better.
- lovich 4y agoIf musk can mouth off on situations he’s completely unqualified to comment on, then I’d like to think us lowly plebs still have that right too
- ltbarcly3 4y agoIf you object to the very concept of a forum why do you have an account here? What are your qualifications to comment on how qualified others are to comment on Musk and his activities?
- camdat 4y agoAh yes the great mind that gave us: - Calling hero divers pedophiles - Covid will be over by summer - Twitter poll Ukrainian peace - FSD is coming in ~2015~ ~2016~ ~2017~ ~2018~ ~2019~ ~2020~ ~2021~ 2022 - Cybertruck coming in ~2020~ ~2021~ ~2022~ 2023 - Freight Truck coming in ~2019~ ~2020~ ~2021~ 2022 - Roadster v2 coming in ~2020~ ~2021~ 2022 Where won't his brilliance take us next
- dylan604 4y agoMars?
- _23sd 4y agoLinked tweet is deleted. Here's CNBC's article: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/28/departing-twitter-employees-say-layoffs-have-started-as-elon-musk-takes-over.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/28/departing-twitter-employees-...
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- jimt1234 4y agoFree speech has begun. LOL
- paulgb 4y agoMost likely the user deleting their own tweet (see https://twitter.com/dee_bosa/status/1586055365409443840 https://twitter.com/dee_bosa/status/1586055365409443840)
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- lefstathiou 4y agoThis would be my preferred approach as an employee… get in, move quickly, then announce layoffs are done. From the beginning his investment thesis was that the headcount is extremely bloated (and from my perspective it’s hard to disagree), so this isn’t a surprise or news to anyone. The alternative approach is to do what CNN is doing by announcing significant structural changes are coming and let employees spend the next 6 months wondering if they will have a job. The psychological toll of this approach seems horrible to me. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/10/26/media/cnn-employees-reliable-sources/index.html https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/10/26/media/cnn-employees-relia...
- stealthmaus 4y agoWell, it's not like they've been doing any work the last few years. The gravy train has left the station.
- varunprasad 4y ago> From the beginning his investment thesis was that the headcount is extremely bloated Is there any evidence that this was his investment thesis from the beginning as opposed to something he only just started talking about?
- Consultant32452 4y agoI like the thing where people assume everybody working at Twitter is a computer science PhD slinging 5000 lines of code daily with stacks of job offers for Silicon Valley headhunters, and not a small army of 27-year old cat lady hall monitors
- jimt1234 4y agoSo, if Elon turns Twitter into 4Chan, does anyone have any idea how he expects to make money? Big brands will run, and Twitter will be left with ad revenue from boner pill manufacturers. Or, is making money even the plan? Maybe controlling info is the plan and the purchase price for Twitter is just an expense toward that end?
- kelseyfrog 4y agoThat's the beauty of private ownership - the owner can derive use-value in any way they wish. A private owner could fire everyone, close up shop, and still be perfectly inline with the use-value they expected to achieve with their purchase. That's market realism in action. Who are we to say what's good or bad of it. That's what the market is for - to transmute money into value and vice versa.
- rchaud 4y agoSpaceX is private and is dependent on government contracts that come with numerous strings attached. Similarly, Musk at Twitter is beholden to the big boys that actually put up the majority financing for this absurd purchase. He cannot just do whatever he wants, only what his consortium will be on board with.
- kelseyfrog 4y agoThat's a fair point. I had Musk in mind when I wrote my response, but the same holds true for any private owners including the financiers.
- krainboltgreene 4y ago> That's market realism in action. Who are we to say what's good or bad of it. Narrator: We actually have a lot authority in saying what's good or bad via laws we've codified concerning this exact thing.
- PM_me_your_math 4y agoTwitter lost nearly 2 billion dollars in the last 2 years. I suspect the number is much higher than that. So the question is, can Mr. Musk and his new staffers do any worse than Twitter's former leadership and staff? I doubt it.
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- paulgb 4y agoThe tweet was deleted, presumably to do with doubt over whether the employees they talked to were actual former employees. > fyi -some questions being raised about whether these are really twitter employees. > Still trying to verify https://twitter.com/dee_bosa/status/1586055365409443840 https://twitter.com/dee_bosa/status/1586055365409443840
- msoad 4y agoThose boxes and hanging AirPods Max on the edge of the box is comical
- georgeburdell 4y agoEdit: looks like a hoax Without Musk’s reasoning, and full disclosure I am not a data engineer, but as a role it strikes me as unnecessarily distinct (as in everyone should have these skills to pull and analyze data) Second, just musing here, but I have noticed data engineers are a more diverse crowd than software engineers. Perhaps it has less of a stigma that keeps people away from software engineering
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- gkoberger 4y agoI don't believe this. Only two people? This is "performance art" by two pro-Elon people. There's no way Twitter laid off two people on Elon's first day; layoffs take planning. It's just two guys with mostly empty boxes. I doubt most employees would even be in the office on a Friday. I dislike Elon and am pretty sure big layoffs are coming, but they won't be reported by two guys on a sidewalk claiming to be "data engineers". EDIT: It's confirmed these two people didn't work at Twitter. One went by "Rahul Ligma", which is a joke setup ("lick my ...").
- 93po 4y agoWhat's your source for these people being pro-Elon? What is the logic behind looking like you've either been fired or are quitting as soon as Elon is controlling the company, and that somehow making him look good?
- gkoberger 4y agoHere's one of the people's Twitter accounts: https://twitter.com/0interestrates https://twitter.com/0interestrates His profile quotes Elon, and here he is tweeting at him: https://twitter.com/0interestrates/status/1586149398731292672 https://twitter.com/0interestrates/status/158614939873129267... The "joke" is that they're trolling "liberal snowflakes" who dislike Elon taking over and now are afraid of losing their jobs. The empty box had a copy of Michelle Obama's book, for example, is a good indication of this. Elon clearly thinks it makes him look good (or, at least, is a funny joke), because he tweeted about it: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1586108809772089345 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1586108809772089345 Side note... imagine having thousands of people who are afraid of losing their jobs, and the new boss tweets jokes about it.
- ryzvonusef 4y agohttps://twitter.com/dee_bosa/status/1586043571081134080 https://twitter.com/dee_bosa/status/1586043571081134080 > They are visibly shaken. Daniel tells us he owns a Tesla and doesn’t know how he’s going to make payments. Aren't Silicon Valley Engineers paid well enough not to have such troubles? Especially after the stock vesting and layoff bonus and stuff?
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- qbasic_forever 4y agoThe average home price is over a million bucks there. Renting a 1 bedroom apartment is like $1500 or more a month. The poverty line for a family of 4 is something in the low six figures last I looked. The cost of living in SF/San Jose area is astronomical.
- dylan604 4y agoPeople getting paid well learn how to spend it. Also, some of the "getting paid well" by FAANGS is in options, so it's not like those pay the bills now
- ryzvonusef 4y agohttps://twitter.com/dee_bosa/status/1586055365409443840 https://twitter.com/dee_bosa/status/1586055365409443840 > fyi -some questions being raised about whether these are really twitter employees. > Still trying to verify Turns out they are NOT Twitter emoployees. Whoops.
- kmeisthax 4y agoThere are plenty of upper-middle-class people who live in a high cost-of-living area and are spending 50% on rent. Rich people additionally will have most of their cash tied up in business deals that won't resolve until way later. The definition of financial irresponsibility is not being poor.
- allen3 4y agoThose aren't bankers boxes. This has to be fake.
- renewiltord 4y agohttps://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1586055789562634240 https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1586055789562634240 But is it real?
- mkl95 4y agoTwitter is old enough to alienate users if non trivial changes are made, but it has also not gone anywhere for years in terms of product development. I'm curious about Musk's plan to escape that complicated vicious cycle. I wouldn't be surprised if the first phase involves firing a bunch of quiet quitters and people who add no value to the business. From an engineering point of view I can think of a few things I would like to play with if I worked for Twitter, Elixir Liveview being one of them. There is a lot of nice tech that would suit Twitter 2.0 and simply didn't exist at old Twitter's peak.
- 18pfsmt 4y agoTwitter acquired and shutdown Vine, Periscope, and Posterous (what could've been substack) among many others. They seemed rather complacent and uninterested in innovation, or even profits. I have no sane explanations for the management of the business side of their operation.
- 93po 4y agoElon likely wants to alienate existing Twitter users to some extent. It's not a website known for having a rational and well rounded userbase.
- blandcoffee 4y agoIt looks like this was indeed a prank. One of the interviewers noted his name was 'Rahul Ligma'
- vishnugupta 4y agoProbably a prank? https://twitter.com/wealthycfo/status/1586053744269340672 https://twitter.com/wealthycfo/status/1586053744269340672
- PaulWaldman 4y agoIt is quite common in LBOs to terminate entire departments, what is unusual is the speed this is being executed. Elon maintains he purchased Twitter to preserve free and open communication, indicating this wouldn’t have been possible with the now previous leadership. Maybe he also purchased it because, at one time, he thought it was undervalued. Either way, the solutions to realize either goals would be like any other LBO, downsizing and restructuring. This scale of layoffs shouldn't be a surprise.
- concinds 4y agoNow that we know this was a hoax, it's sad that some people took this "news" and ran with it, with wild criticisms of Musk (even trying to psychoanalyze him). I hope people take some time to reflect on their personal bias here.
- whateveracct 4y agothere's something truly fun about people joking around in society
- dang 4y agoAll: this thread has several archaeological layers. Submitted URL was https://twitter.com/anthony/status/1586047790341398534 https://twitter.com/anthony/status/1586047790341398534 When that was deleted, we switched to https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/28/departing-twitter-employees-say-layoffs-have-started-as-elon-musk-takes-over.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/28/departing-twitter-employees-.... Both the title and content of the page have since changed. Once an article appeared that reported the hoax more accurately, we switched to that. Commenters were pointing out the hoax before that, of course.
- JohnDeHope 4y ago"That didn’t stop multiple outlets, including CNBC and Bloomberg, from running headlines Friday saying that laid-off Twitter employees were leaving the building carrying boxes." This is the part that scares me. It feels like a lot of news media outlets will publish just about anything. It feels like they have no interest at all in whether or not what they're saying is true, or even likely to be true. That's the part that worries me.
- acdha 4y agoOne thing to remember here is that Twitter is disproportionately popular with journalists and other media figures. The idea of major changes where they spend a lot of time is going to cause concern, much as HN would freak out over major changes at GitHub.
- millzlane 4y agoThey both corrected the articles after 3 hours. Gotta give credit where credit is due. But it shouldn't scare you that peoples lies are taken at face value. We see it everyday. Hell some politicians are lying right your face.
- Alupis 4y agoJournalists are supposed to have more credibility than your friend's gossip though... While retracting and/or correcting the articles is a step towards journalistic integrity, it should be very troubling these articles were published in the first place. After all, how many people bother to go back and review past articles just on the off chance some piece of information was corrected? None...
- yeuxardents 4y agoHonestly it troubles me that anyone believes 'journalists' from any of the major corporations have _any_ credibility, even going back to the 1990s with censorship of stories have been rife within the corporate 'journalism' industry. There are very few journalists that deserve real credibility.
- sharksauce 4y agoLigma/Johnson. And they were taken seriously by the assembled press.
- all2 4y agoLigma? As in that age-old "ligma balls" joke? Did no one catch that?
- Alupis 4y agoI suspect confirmation bias, and a desperate desire for these events to be true (the Musk takeover of Twitter must be bad) led to overlooking an obvious prank seemingly designed to invoke this very reaction from the media. Hook, line and sinker. However, the real damage is done. How many people saw the headlines and now will forever assume this event actually transpired?
- thomond 4y agoWell Musk also said he'll layoff 75% of staff so it wouldn't be too surprising that he'd layoff staff. He's backtracked on that but he's still laying off staff.
- cafard 4y ago"Age-old" may depend on your definition of age. I am in my upper sixties, and thought that I had a fairly encyclopedic knowledge of vulgar humor, but I had not encountered this one.
- conorcleary 4y agoIt's cumming back into cuntemporary verbiage.
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- harambae 4y agoIt was the right mix of knowing when to be serious and when to throw in deadpan ridiculousness. The clip I saw was about a minute and ended with one of the two saying he "needs to go check on his husband and wife"... while there are throuple relationships, I don't yet think they are possible in a legal marriage.
- yarg 4y agoI don't see why anyone would bother to target Musk with a false flag attack; he's been doing a fine job of shitting the bed all by himself. Let it play out.
- netsharc 4y agoHalf a year ago there would've been recruiters trying to swoop these guys. Imagine it, you're a jobless programmer, you hear about the Elon assimilation, you get a box, put some stuff in it, drive to the Twitter HQ, loiter around outside, and get a job offer. But nowadays the recruiters would probably also be scammers...
- cogogo 4y agoThis is fantastic performance art.