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Joe Rogan Interviews Steve Jobs
- komape 4y agoI'm surprised how real Rogan sounds and how Jobs does not. Why is that?
- gjsman-1000 4y agoPresumably because we have hours, days, weeks of Joe Rogan speaking - not just on his podcast but as a sports announcer as well. Steve Jobs... we have a few speeches and presentations, but we don't have much data on how he spoke by comparison.
- blairbeckwith 4y agoExponentially more training data for Joe than Steve, and infinity more training data in a podcast episode setting.
- daptaq 4y agoMore data to train on?
- daveguy 4y agoProbably training set size. Joe Rogan talks for a living.
- whoooooo123 4y agoMaybe there's more training data available for Rogan. The guy pumps out hundreds of hours of content a year in which he's recorded discussing every topic under the sun. I can't imagine there's a similar quantity of recordings of Jobs's voice - or of almost anyone's voice for that matter. Edit: four other people replied in the time it took me to type two sentences. I guess the answer is that obvious.
- the_lonely_road 4y agoProbably significantly more training data for Rogan than Jobs and a much wider range thanks to his long running pod cast. I am not super familiar with Steve Jobs so I can't think of anything other than his keynotes and some interviews that you would be able to use for him. Unrelated point...that laugh was incredibly bad and repetitive to the point it felt like they were playing laugh.wav file each time they wanted a laugh instead of generating a new laugh of variable pitch and length.
- corry 4y agoThe issue is Job's training data is likely 99% his public "presentation voice" audio -- cadence, inflection, emphasis from public remarks at Apple events, commencement addresses, shareholder meetings, etc -- which OF COURSE sounds unnatural in regular conversation. Meanwhile Rogan has million hours of regular conversation audio to learn from.
- vanattab 4y agoWould the fact that Joe's data is more standardized and produced the same way. Job's data is likely a mix of different volumes, echo levels, processing have an effect
- abledon 4y agoone could hire a _really good_ steve jobs voice actor to generate more training data for the AI algorithm?
- ipaddr 4y agoAt that point using them to create the exact audio would be easier
- bongobingo1 4y agoYeah but what VC is interested in funding /that/?
- olalonde 4y agoHumans are expensive though. If you have a lot of speech to record, it might be cheaper to use the human to train the AI and then let the AI finish the rest.
- flir 4y agoThen you could just hire the actor to read Jobs' part directly? Hiring people to train their replacements seems off to me.
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- nixpulvis 4y agolol, everyone calls it training data. Here I was thinking I was in the right practice.
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- abalaji 4y agoThis really feels like next level stuff--as Jobs would love to note, that's the magic of integration. But, it's really not novel--just someone putting together the building blocks of foundational ML models already out there. I'm really excited to see version 2 and so on of this.
- jstanley 4y agoI think this is novel. If being "novel" required being made of things that didn't exist before, would there be anything that meets that bar?
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- maxbond 4y agoI think what they're saying is that this artifact could have been produced a long time ago with very similar techniques, and the novelty is in the ecosystem and tooling which lowers the barriers to creating it.
- abalaji 4y agoExactly! My comment is not a ding on the product, but amazement at what a couple engineers with the right mindset can achieve with existing tools in this day and age.
- leereeves 4y agoIs this scripted by an AI or scripted by a human and simply voiced by an AI?
- whoooooo123 4y agoIf you can't tell the difference, then the AI scriptwriter just passed a Turing test.
- nannal 4y agoHuman scriptwriter just failed it.
- Aromasin 4y ago"The episodes are rendered using play.ht's ultra-realistic voices, and transcripts are generated with fine-tuned language models. For example, the Steve Jobs episode was trained on his biography and all recordings of him we could find online so the AI could accurately bring him back to life." - https://podcast.ai/about https://podcast.ai/about
- augusto-moura 4y agoYou can just read the manual™ https://podcast.ai/about https://podcast.ai/about
- chrisfrantz 4y agoFeels like both written and voiced by AI after listening to it. There were some tangents that felt a bit off. The Gizmodo bit was probably about the iPhone that was left at the bar but they never actually addressed the subject matter which was strange.
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- ch_sm 4y agoSome of it is very convincing! The first parts about spirituality especially. But for me it really fell apart and became an obvious GPT text later on — for instance the part about what Adobe should do is completely nonsensical.
- borplk 4y agoWow Rogan sounds very realistic. Is the voice completely generated or are some words/phrases "borrowed" from real sample data portions?
- Fredej 4y agoThere's a huge amount of data to base this on, in the very context that it's presented in.
- graderjs 4y agoThis is mindblowing. Like this could be real, and I'm learning stuff from it: There's an Indian epic that's 10 times as long as ... There's some audio distortion (sounds like clips cut together, little "notches" in the soundscape) but apart from that, and some weirdness in sensing "the spatial location" where this audio was recorded...the concepts and the dialog are amazing. Some parts are weird...but people can be weird. It you tidied this up, and added the right sounds affects and audio processing to this, without the cue that this is AI generated...holy fuck, I think people would believe it. Particularly if you cut it together as a "highlights reel". Jobs does sound a bit off tho, a bit thin...there should be enough data on him to do a sparse reconstruction of his voice to a level of accuracy beyond human discernment tho. The thing this got wrong about Job's voice cadence, tho is: Jobs speaks a lot more slowly and deliberately, and with a lot more pauses, than here. I suspect the cadence / timing is not so emphatically modelled by this AI. I think also they're missing some emotional trajectory coherence in both their voices. Like the emotional register of the voice does not sound or transition as naturally, and is less diverse. Incredible PoC. AI folks are the new dark wizards. WTF can they not do? That list is shorter
- h0l0cube 4y ago> I'm learning stuff from it: There's an Indian epic that's 10 times as long as ... From a cursory websearch: > At about 1.8 million words in total, the Mahābhārata is roughly ten times the length of the Iliad and the Odyssey combined https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahabharata https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahabharata
- dgeiser13 4y ago> The thing this got wrong about Job's voice cadence, tho is: Jobs speaks a lot more slowly and deliberately, and with a lot more pauses, than here. I suspect the cadence / timing is not so emphatically modelled by this AI. That's because AI Broe Jogan got AI Jeve Stobs high before the show started.
- sam1r 4y ago>> That's because AI Broe Jogan got AI Jeve Stobs high before the show started. He does this for every interviewee! I was shocked, but pleased when the Substack vp of comms wrote about her experience whilst colloquially escorting the Substack CEO for the interview. [1] [2] >> At a long desk in the big main room sits an attractive nurse. She offers us an enhancer of B12 or NAD+, through a shot or an IV. >> I get a shot of NAD+, which is supposed to be good for energy and metabolism. NAD stands for Nicotinamide Adenine Dinucleotide, and I don’t know what the + is. (Actually, I don’t know what any of it is, but the nurse said she takes it, and if you saw this woman, you too would ask for a shot of whatever she’s on.) Ultimately, this is pretty crazy to me. Those along with the interviewees get “high” too and since Steve Jobs, this is the first time it’s been written about it. I wish people knew more about this! It’s been a while since Steve Jobs has been interviewed. 1000+ shots later, Rogan has grown and is stronger than ever. [1] https://substack.com/profile/39686168-lulu-cheng-meservey https://substack.com/profile/39686168-lulu-cheng-meservey [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32649123 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32649123
- hackerlight 4y agoI wonder if people on their deathbeds will start recording themselves so that AI can immortalize them for their loved ones after they're gone.
- keiferski 4y agoThis is a common trope in sci-fi, but I personally don't get the appeal. It's not talking to my dead loved one, it's just a weird technological puppet of them. An actual recording of their voice is much more meaningful, even if it's not interactive.
- langsoul-com 4y agoIt actually already exists. There's companies that train AI on a deceased loved one's messages and then have them send texts back. They act as if they're alive and well.
- throwaway742 4y agothat's kinda sad
- lvncelot 4y agoThat honestly sounds like it encourages a very unhealthy way to cope with grief.
- dvngnt_ 4y agosee black mirror
- emptyparadise 4y agoIt'd be interesting if it weren't for the current tech industry that would bend over backwards to find a way to use it for advertising purposes.
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- shrewdcomputer 4y agoPutting the ML conversation to one side, this is a fantastic piece of marketing. It's perfect for getting attention from a wide audience and is a great demo of their product.
- nyxtom 4y agoThis is incredible!
- jakemcgraw 4y agoI wonder how much more effective this would be if the prompt wasn't "this was generated by AI." It would be really interesting if someone with a popular podcast injected an AI conversation into their feed and didn't tell their audience for a couple weeks. A real life Turing Test.
- dbancajas 4y agoOnly the voice is AI right? Is the whole conversation flow generated by AI too? That'd be crazy.
- jawarner 4y agoNo, the text is AI too. It is crazy.
- EGreg 4y agoEntirely generated by artificial intelligence? So this text was generated by GPT3?
- mahmoudfelfel 4y agoYes, a finetuned GPT3 on Jobs' biography
- bamazizi 4y agoFantastic marketing execution. Most surprising was the gravitation of the conversation. I'm really curious about the script behind the voices. Was it written by a person or ai as well?
- mahmoudfelfel 4y agoAll AI generated.
- mahathu 4y agoMost mindblowing thing I've seen in recent memory. With the amount of available training data, isn't it now just a small step to AI-generate new episodes of existing podcasts? Exciting and scary.
- mduggles 4y agoThis sounds like if you spliced together tape of Rogan and Jobs with scotch tape. An interesting concept but I never felt like I was listening to a conversation between two people. Jobs sounds weirdly far away, he also was never a "fast talker". Listen to his interview at MIT where he takes questions. He always stopped for long pauses, stares off into space for a minute. He didn't rush into responses and tended to nail timing really well. Rogan sounds more believable but I suspect you'd get the same results sitting down at Audacity and cutting together an MP3. You just have better quality samples of him talking to people in a podcast setting. It's an interesting demo but I'm not sure why I would want this to exist. It seems like technology which you could only abuse, either through the generation of podcast spam or through the production of fake audio. Podcasts are legion and are already cheap to make and based on open standards.
- starkd 4y agoI'd say it is highly unethical. Imagine thousands of people listening to fake podcasts as if they were real. Not only are they being lied to, but if they find out many are sure to become very angry on learning they wasted their time. Fortunately, it's not there yet, since it's obviously fake.
- KMnO4 4y ago> wasted their time That’s the best case scenario. It gets a lot worse than that. I saw a (scam) video on YouTube that had Elon Musk saying “if you want to make money in crypto, the best way is doing xxx, for example using the website yyy.com”. I had to do a spit take because it was very convincing for a layman. Both the audio/video were deepfaked, but you couldn’t really tell other than the fact that it was uploaded in 240p. If my mother had seen that, I’m sure she would have believed it since it’s something Elon would plausibly say. We’re entering a scary time.
- LtWorf 4y agoWell he only promotes scams so it was extra believable!
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- TheUndead96 4y agoThe really bizarre thing is that I found myself enjoying this podcast, perhaps even more than the average Joe Rogan podcast. This didn't feel quite as hollow as the average AI-generated content.
- case0x00 4y agoThe flow of Jobs' voice is a little off, but wow this is incredible. But also incredibly concerning. Its cool tech, and I guess nothing can stop the inevitability of new technology, but the ability to replicate people's voice, speech patterns, and how they look to a pretty accurate degree is mega sketchy. I guess to future proof yourself, just minimize your audio and visual data online...
- visarga 4y agoOr, you know, if you want to be "resurrected" after the singularity from your digital web-crumbs then make sure you leave plenty of them. People who left the best data will be first to be uploaded.
- obloid 4y agoThe impression I got is that his tone sounded like someone giving a speech or presentation. Rogan sounded more natural. I suspect a large part of the training data was Jobs giving presentations in front of an audience so his AI voice sounds like public speaking. Whereas Rogan's data would be most likely be conversations from his podcast so his AI voice sounds more conversational.
- edent 4y agoAm I going crazy? This sounds awful. I've never listened to Joe Rogan - but does he really sound like his voice has passed through a square wave? He has almost no intonation. The AI can't even pronounce "Swayze" correctly. Job's laugh sounds psychotic and out of place. And his voice, again, sounds robotic. The dialogue is utterly nonsense. What's going on with the hype here?
- geeny777 4y agoEveryone knows it's terrible, but it's cool that they could do this at all. Like, it's a small preview of what's possible. Imagine this 10 years from now.
- agildehaus 4y ago10 years? Imagine it 2 years from now. Or even tomorrow, because it's unlikely this is the apex of what's possible now.
- 0xbadcafebee 4y agoI imagine in 10 years it'll be the same. Firstly because if you can't get "enough" good content to model, you will have to manually shape the models to make it sound authentic - and that isn't AI, that's editing. But secondly because humans are very good at recognizing authentically human interactions, and algorithms simply aren't good enough to generate all the nuances we identify as authentic. If you want to fake someone out, use a regular person, and clean it up in post.
- hollowdene 4y agoYeah. The first few seconds of Rogan talking were pretty decent, but Jobs doesn't sound right at all, mainly because of the dialogue specifically. But I do kind of get the hype.
- joshuahedlund 4y agoThe first few minutes sounded bad but the last half was quite impressive.
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- mahmoudfelfel 4y agoHi everyone, cofounder of play.ht (the startup behind this podcast) here. let me know if you have any questions. To give more context, the podcast was totally AI generated, the content itself was generated from a finetuned GPT3 on SteveJobs' biography, the voices were cloned from few hours of both Joe and Steve voices, even though it was tough to get good content for Steve Jobs. And the podcast artwork was generated by SD. We will be releasing more episodes soon which will be even more mind-blowing!
- jdelman 4y agoHow much audio do you need to build a model?
- mahmoudfelfel 4y agoThe original model (https://play.ht/blog/introducing-truly-realistic-text-to-speech-with-emotion-and-laughter/ https://play.ht/blog/introducing-truly-realistic-text-to-spe...) was trained on 50k hours of audio, the above voices were just finetuned on the model, only 4-6 hours each. We just finetuned another voice recently with only 1hr though... I think eventually (soon) we will only need 15-20 mins with zeroshot not even finetuning.
- luc4sdreyer 4y agoCan you elaborate more on what the prompts for the text content were?
- mahmoudfelfel 4y agoThis was the prompt: " Podcast.AI Great people, great interviews with our host Joe Rogan. Episode 1 - Steve Jobs Summary: " Then GPT3 generated the summary, then we added: " Transcript: Joe: " That is all.
- mwcampbell 4y agoI still have a hard time believing that the opening of the script was auto-generated. Did GPT-3 really generate the part about the movie Ghost? If so, it has a surprising amount of understanding of what it's generating.
- shp0ngle 4y agoIt sounds good on a first glance, but then the topic switches are totally absurd. Like Steve talking about LSD all of a sudden, then Joe Rogan asks about Newton (which Jobs didn’t make) and Steve starts talking about… product and iteration? It sounds like someone is superficially trying to act like Jobs would act, which … it kind of is! I needed to turn it off after 10 minutes as it obviously goes nowhere. But really interesting experiment nonetheless, and better than I would expect.
- jtvjan 4y agoI found it pretty funny, as if Jogan was making the joke that ‘the Newton was so bad that you must've been on drugs while you made it’.
- SevenNation 4y agoThe first 20 secs of dialog from Jobs is not believable. He never did chit-chat. He wouldn't give a toot about some podcast. His mission would be to get to the point - himself, his company, or a big idea that intersects one or the other. He wouldn't try to flatter the the host. Bro Jogan, on the other hand, sounds very believable. This might have something to do with the ratio of Bro/Jobs training material. Still, this technology has huge potential.
- jbverschoor 4y agoMind is blown.. it's verry good. Although there's no real coherence in the 'ainterview', it's very convincing. In terms of TTS, there are some minor glitches here and there, but overall I'm super impressed. one of the things was the "sell you a quarter of a car" part. I couldn't find a google hit for that.
- joshuahedlund 4y agoThe opening minute or two sounded a little off, but either Jobs' cadence sped up or I got used to it, and it got it better as it went on. The last few minutes were astounding - Jobs riffing about the good and bad potential of technology, and the final bit about throwing computers - if that was not either heavily curated or copied from pre-existing material I am quite impressed.
- eruleman 4y agoSteve Wozniak famously said to "never trust a computer you can't throw out the window."
- snorkel 4y agoThis has some obvious rough edges but still it's a harbinger of things to come. Seems this was trained on recordings of Jobs' on-stage voice rather than his casual conversation voice. The rough edges in this will be smoothed out over time by new tricks of AI trade. This will get crazy when combined with an AI Jobs that paces around a virtual stage in a black turtleneck hyping AI-invented products.
- acqbu 4y agoI too throw my MacBook out the window every now and then. Not to check if it still works, but to get it to work when it stops working
- Digory 4y agoDo people understand this isn’t just speech synth? The script itself is AI? The introductory bit is AMAZING. Coyly teasing out the introduction of the guest is something Rogan does. I also assume the laughter bits are overused because of the Rogan transcripts, which probably indicate [Laughter]. You’d need a bigger model to know what’s the appropriate laugh for person to person discussion, not the laugh Steve Jobs gives to an auditorium. But overall, really amazing things get picked up.
- 77pt77 4y agoJoe is absolutely on point. Jobs, not so much. I think Jobs was trained from public presentation or something.
- hammock 4y agoWhat’s the process here- generate a transcript with GPT-3, deepfake the voices?
- olalonde 4y agoProduct idea: audio book but with the (synthetized) voice of their author. Does this exist?
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- theage 4y agoVery engaging after the first act. Imaginary Conversations is already an established sub genre of history books and I can't wait to see where this style of hybrid curation / creation goes, surely into the present like this. Maybe a.i. voice debates will be so offensive to the popular pundits being cloned it will encourage more real live debates again, giving people exactly what they want just to compete with underground a.i. I expect soon there will be Unauthorized Biographies written in the first person with the audiobook read by the subject's a.i. voice. What a trip.
- ablyveiled 4y agoReminds me of Neuromancer's Flatline construct.
- rocky1138 4y agoThis is a misleading title since it's a fake.
- awb 4y agoRoe Jogan interviews Jeeve Stobs.
- gojomo 4y agoIndeed, but as The Onion argued in its recent amicus brief to the US Supreme Court, there is often social value in saying false things "with a straight face": https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22-293/242292/20221003125252896_35295545_1-22.10.03%20-%20Novak-Parma%20-%20Onion%20Amicus%20Brief.pdf https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22-293/242292/2022... The contrast between what is said, facetiously, & what the reader knows to be true, or discovers as the joke becomes clearer, become a unique & essential part of the expression.
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- nosequel 4y agoWhile impressive, I think it is extremely bothersome. Did you get JRE's permission or the family of Steve Job's permission to do this? Considering how much news/social media/blogs like to cut and paste one-liners taken out of context, I find it unethical to put words into Joe Rogan's mouth like this. I get that you needed someone who everyone recognized for a good demo, but I honestly think using someone who is alive was not a great choice. To remove anyone's ability to believe this interview actually happened, some other interviewers could've been used, like Walter Cronkite or David Brinkley.
- password54321 4y agoMy friend, Steve Jobs is dead.
- ayewo 4y agoSeems like you misunderstood the parent. There are two parties in the interview and only one is dead. The parent is saying that to eliminate all doubt, they should have gone to great lengths to pick two very dead people for the demo.
- nosequel 4y agoI should've made more of an effort to separate my two points. You are indeed correct. I still have issue with putting words into Steve Job's mouth w/o permission from his estate. I think the bigger issue is including someone who already has many news outlets picking and choosing one-liners from his many years of podcasts to make him out to be a horrible person. My stupid solution was to use not one, but two dead people for the demo. My first point still stands I don't think they should've put the words into the mouth of anyone living or dead.
- nosequel 4y ago> or the family of Steve Job Was that not a dead giveaway that I already knew that?
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- mullikine 4y agoIt's a cool demonstration. I was doing a lot of GPT-3 stuff last year, got terrified and felt hopeless in face of where AI was going. https://semiosis.github.io/about/ https://semiosis.github.io/about/ https://semiosis.github.io/posts/imaginary-internet-survival-guide/ https://semiosis.github.io/posts/imaginary-internet-survival... But I put it all down to do philosophy, then some soul searching and God turned up. Spirit, astral projection, lightsoul, God, Christ, heaven -- all real. https://semiosis.github.io/posts/the-pathway-to-gnosis/ https://semiosis.github.io/posts/the-pathway-to-gnosis/
- leshow 4y agoDoes the AI spread covid misinformation too?
- dangerwill 4y agoI'm anti-AI so I'm biased against this from the start, but c'mon, let the dead rest in peace. It's really bad for the culture, imho, to endlessly repackage the same people, ideas, properties, etc. As much as I don't care for Musk, Joe Rogan talking to him provides infinitely more insight into the world of today than a fake Rogan talking to a fake Jobs.
- Kiro 4y agoWhy and how are you anti-AI?
- dangerwill 4y agoAI will reduce the demand for "knowledge" and cultural workers (writing, music, art, programming, data analysts, etc, basically everyone who doesn't do manual labour) by 90-99% with the remaining workers being AI helpers/"prompt-engineers". Once this transition picks up steam, it will happen so quickly that the rust-belt-ification of the midwest will look measured and quant in comparison, and we saw how government didn't act to help people that got dislocated through absolutely 0 fault of their own. And that's not even getting into how AI/ML solutions often only hit the 80 mark in the 80/20 rule and cause bizarre issues for people that run afoul of the system (see: Google's ML driven account takedown processes with youtube/play store), while winning purely on their low marginal cost. If AI was paired with an explicit promise of a generous UBI then I would merely personally choose to not consume AI content and not be against it in general. But that isn't how the market economy works unfortunately.
- WC3w6pXxgGd 4y agoThis is the exact same argument people have made about every new piece of technology since the beginning of written history.
- donkeyd 4y agoI've heard this argument over and over. I used to be an avid believer in this myself. However, this has been the fear of people for years, with every new tech and every time, it seems like some new thing replaced the old, or even added to it. The electric guitar, the synth, DAWs, they never replaced musicians, they just gave them more tools, yet there were always nay sayers. I see this happening in business too. People haven't been fired en masse due to tech and we're currently having massive shortages in the work force. Even with McDonald's moving to self-service screens. I'm getting less and less scared of tech taking over and removing people from everything.
- OzzyB 4y ago> 01:04 "And I can't even say his name" Well, it looks like a big fail right off the bat.
- chaosmachine 4y agoAnother podcast has already been doing deepfake celebrity interviews with ai-written scripts (but with a humorous tone) for a few months: https://m.soundcloud.com/jn2022 https://m.soundcloud.com/jn2022 They're all hosted by a fake Lex Fridman. The Elon Musk ones sound pretty convincing.
- barbariangrunge 4y agoSo we have ai replacing humans; but more, they will even be assuming our names and the internet will be full of fake conversations and articles and fake stories allegedly by these replaced people There needs to be some laws about this asap
- soheil 4y agoThe 1st thing I noticed is that Jobs voice sounds like he's giving a talk to a large audience as opposed to a one-on-one conversation. Is it because most of his clips are him doing a monologue?
- soheil 4y ago> it would seem contrived and everyone would see through it It's as if he's describing this very podcast. Nevertheless I enjoyed listening to this as much as any other JR podcast.
- password54321 4y agoA lot of people aren't going to like this. The general public perception is going to be that not only are AI after our creative jobs but even our identities.
- anderspitman 4y agoSomething often discussed is how things like this can be used to make incriminating fake audio of other people's voices. Seems obvious that it wouldn't be too hard to find signs of that in the digital files. My question is has anyone made a filter that goes the opposite direction, ie makes your voice on phone or zoom calls sound like it's been AI generated by inserting specific artifacts? We might have an interesting arms race ahead of us. Maybe a good time to get into digital forensics.
- S_A_P 4y agomp3/compression artifacts is all I hear- that is likely all you would need to do.
- Pxtl 4y agoOkay, this is moderately terrifying. Really though, who would've thought we'd invent artificial creativity before artificial general intelligence? I mean when you see things like this, how far can general intelligence be?
- 0xbadcafebee 4y agoUncanny Valley meets bad podcast editing. Sounds like somebody cut+pasted a bunch of Steve's Ted Talks / Apple promos. The laugh was really dissonant.
- ChrisArchitect 4y agoamazing/terrifying etc..... It's interesting many people's reactions to that of Jobs are "he wasn't like that", "doesn't sound what he would say" etc..... (1) a dead person, freaky, (2) countering people's biased "memory" of someone from their past.... what we pick and choose to remember... going up against something generated (with it's own biases/problems) from the content that person produced over years and years...what seemingly should be a really decent representation of their -isms/personality.
- civilized 4y agoThis is both impressive and unbearably, unlistenably annoying. I had to stop like 45 seconds in. It sounds exactly like Rogan interviewing Jobs as generated by an AI from 2022. Definitely nailed that. Ten thousand percent. In a remarkable milestone, AI can now match the intelligence of not one, but two, mindlessly rambling people with dementia.
- sebastianconcpt 4y agoCan you imagine how much history the next Stalin or Mao will be able to re-write in the post-truth era using a good version of this? This is the foundation of Propaganda 3.0 Welcome to the era of Psy-Weapons of Mass Madness.
- canacrypto 4y agoScary. Not sure how democracy survives when adversaries can make people say anything they want them to.
- jedberg 4y agoI'm amused that right now as I post this, the top comment is "This is terrible and sounds like it was cut with tape" and the next one is "this is amazing and indistinguishable from real life". I guess we have a ways to go with AI, but it's already there for some.
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- jossclimb 4y agoThe first post is not very fair at all. I personally am in the amazing camp, this is a rough diamond, a prototype, from here it will be refined and optimised. The first poster is trying to compare it to two humans in dialog, which is unrealistic for something so new. It very much looks to me though, it will get there and get there shortly.
- awb 4y ago~95% of the sentences spoken by the RoganAI are nearly indistinguishable from Rogan's real life inflections and podcast persona. The JobsAI is trained on his presenter speaking voice, so ~95% of his inflections sound noticeably unnatural in a conversational format. So, I guess it depends on what you're focusing on, the imperfections or the achievements.
- oliverbennett 4y agoWhat I'm waiting for is when these imagined conversations are generated for an audience of just me. When references I understand and abstractions I'm familiar with are tossed around with ease, but unfamiliar concepts are expanded on and picked apart, as you might with a good friend. If the speakers are brilliant I often don't want to actively be part of a conversation, I just want a personal performance. Though I imagine in 10 years, with a tricorder on my face (brain sensor included), I'll probably always be part of the conversation/performance, however passive.
- ronyfadel 4y agoThis is so good that I can't tell if it's AI generated or a bunch of clips of Joe Rogan and Steve Jobs stitched together decently well. The "belief" threshold has been crossed.
- sudden_dystopia 4y agoObviously it has some kinks that need to be worked out and it sounds spliced, and Joe never starts the show “Hello to all you freak bitches” but was better than I expected.
- mlajtos 4y agoAlan Watts next, please. :)
- matrix12 4y agoSteve jobs is spinning so fast in his grave that Apple will no doubt add generators. This should make them carbon neutral.
- yalogin 4y agoWhat is the value proposition for such a thing? For people complaining that it is not good enough, it may sound a bit off because its ML and also depends on the availability of good data. Over time, the algorithm will fix these issues, may be. For me the overarching thing is, why should this exist? 1. Are they auditioning for a deep fake service and picked the most eye catching, legally controversial thing possible? 2. Do they think it has a viral potential and so it could be a continuous source of revenue? Either way, for me it's a PoC that shows how trivial it is to fake someone's voice and think about the ramifications of this for our society.
- benabus 4y agoIs the content AI generated as well?
- ionwake 4y agoThis is the best podcast I’ve ever heard. Fantastic job. Excellent work.
- rglover 4y agoA thought this prompted: I absolutely cannot wait to see how litigation erupts as this stuff improves. Digital forensic evidence investigation is going to become a massive industry. People are going to be imprisoned and put to death for things that never even happened. Unreal times we're living in.
- webwielder2 4y agoDoes anyone else find all the little AI-powered non sequiturs and nonsensical points as funny as I do?
- Austin_Conlon 4y agoI chuckled at the segue from LSD to the Newton.
- pmayrgundter 4y agoOk, I'm ready for the Max Headroom podcast to be a permanent fixture of my life
- ravenstine 4y agoMy expectations weren't that high to begin with but... hmmm... What should I have been expecting in context of what the AI is actually doing? Is it automatically cutting together clips to fit a script? The cadence of Jobs just seems strange and comes off as being stitched together. Surely an AI that can get this far could add some natural gaps to the conversation.
- Apocryphon 4y agoI like how Jobs is just using his WWDC voice the entire time
- ggerganov 4y agoSimilar project: https://lexman.rocks https://lexman.rocks
- madrox 4y ago"People will accept your ideas much more readily if you tell them that Benjamin Franklin said it first" can now be amended to "people will be more willing to listen to your ideas if you synthesize a podcast of Joe Rogan and Steve Jobs talking about it." I don't think anything being said is new wisdom or truth. We've heard these same things said elsewhere. However, because we spliced together the voices of Joe and Steve, you'll get a different level of engagement from a different set of communities. It's already hard enough to separate form and substance on the internet. I'm not sure what this adds.
- UncleOxidant 4y agoWhy not just listen to an actual interview of Steve Jobs by Terry Gross? https://freshairarchive.org/segments/steve-jobs-future-web https://freshairarchive.org/segments/steve-jobs-future-web
- random314 4y agoHow many bits of information was there in the prompt. If it is was a very small amount, this is mind blowing! Being trained off Steve's autobiography dampens how impressive this is, but the grammatical structure and flow of sentences is beyond belief. We did see this in GPT3. But the responses seem more coherent, probably because of the source material- Jobs biography!
- alexanderballou 4y agoI'm sure everything I'm about to say has already been said, but I would like to add my voice because it seems important. This podcast was enjoyable to me. I was surprised that I enjoyed it so much and I ended up listening until the end. I really liked to listen to Steve Jobs, even knowing that this was some sort of combination of things he has said and generated content, he was very enlightening to listen to. Both Joe and Steve stayed in character as far as I know, the audio and a few laughs that were misplaced seemed like the only flaws technically. Morally I'm thinking that this falls short unfortunately, but only because i'm under the impression that permission was not given to use the likeness of either person. Since this is a relatively new way to achieve something like this particular production I believe that these first uses will have the biggest effect and I can understand why the two people featured were chosen. I hope that one day our society respects the right of people to be portrayed and used as they would wish, but I do understand that as of right now the power to enforce those protections are probably not well developed. All in all I'm very impressed and a bit disturbed by the potential.
- sam1r 4y agoI feel similar to you — to combat the morality aspect — I wish there was an annotated community transcript that you can dig deeper into how it was put together.
- bamboozled 4y agoJoe Rogan is the best interviewer of our time.
- bitsoda 4y agoThis was very uncomfortable for me to listen to. I felt compelled to close out of the tab 3 minutes into it. While I can appreciate that the AI has stitched together dialogue read by synthesized voices, ultimately it sounded like nonsense and an invasion of privacy for both parties. Maybe I'm just weird and have a low tolerance for that uncanny valley feeling.
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