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Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issues, elections, politics
- baryphonic 4y agoA social network suppressing discussion of "social" issues reminds me of that scene in Dr Strangelove: "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!"
- threads2 4y agoplz restrict all ads
- cma 4y agoDo they classify "boosted" posts as ads? They mention restricting boosting advertisements, but isn't there a separate thing where you can pay to "boost" anything?
- jimbob45 4y agoNot just boosted posts but astroturfed ads as well. If Kim Kardashian shares a story about some senatorial candidate punting puppies (that she was paid under the table for), then will that be punished as well? I fear that Facebook is just moving the problem from paid ads to astroturfed ads.
- FateOfNations 4y agoNo, this is only for ads that Meta/Facebook is selling themselves, not for content posted by end users.
- bombcar 4y agoAnd they again subtly condition everyone to think that political advertising works and you certainly shouldn't stop spending on it or even question the usefulness thereof.
- nemothekid 4y ago>condition everyone to think that political advertising works Political advertising _works_. Regular advertising _works_. You are not immune to propaganda.
- tialaramex 4y agoThat's a bit complicated. The most basic thing is awareness, and advertising definitely does what you'd expect there. If your problem is that nobody knows who "nemothekid" is then you're not going to get many votes, and advertising "nemothekid" helps with that. But it gets murky pretty quickly after that, an advert which tells people "nemothekid" is a straight shooting maverick, a fresh face with plenty of experience, who is laser focused across a broad range - vote nemothekid, that's nemo-the-kid - well that might work fine even though that's self-contradictory nonsense. Because it put your name in a voters head.
- CrazyPyroLinux 4y agoAny time I hear a political ad, it makes me think of the spoof ones in Vampire Bloodlines: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ovLsFhd-EM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ovLsFhd-EM
- humanwhosits 4y agoAfter reading all that I'm pretty convinced to vote nemothekid, just from sheer repetition
- gnicholas 4y agoSure, it just depends on what your goal is and what your budget is. If you have millions of dollars and want to give a candidate a boost, you can definitely do so. Ads that feature the candidates name will increase voter familiarity, which will increase votes. Even with the new rules in place, you can probably still achieve similar ends by running 'get the vote out' ads only in areas where your candidate's likely voters live. But this doesn't mean FB ads work for everyone. Most companies don't have millions of dollars to spend on raising awareness, because mere awareness doesn't translate into purchases in the same way it translates into votes.
- Daishiman 4y agoBefore people post platitudes about Meta and censorship, know that this is in line with what many democracies around the world do in with media blackouts a few days before elections. It has generally worked out pretty well actually feels like balanced policy.
- codefreeordie 4y agoIt could be a balanced policy, but what they will do is the same thing they always do -- consider posts of positions they approve of as "news" and everything else as prohibited "politics", therefore making a massive contribution-in-kind to their political party
- Daishiman 4y agoThis is just about paid ads AFAIK.
- theandrewbailey 4y agoAs a former resident of a US swing state, it certainly didn't seem like that was the case. The day before election day, just about every other TV ad was for a politician.
- Daishiman 4y agoDid they have media blackouts? Where I live they do and I think it helps to chill down the discourse and garbage scandals.
- nebula8804 4y agoI don't think the US does this, most other democracies do though. I think the same goes for ads for pharmaceuticals. Banned everywhere except US and New Zealand I think?(heavily regulated there though)
- mrguyorama 4y agoThe US for the most part has an insane amount of leeway for political advertising. They are explicitly exempt from anti-cold calling laws for example.
- IAmGraydon 4y agoThey need to ban political ads, period. For good.
- dont__panic 4y agoToss in pharmaceuticals while we're at it. Both are purchases that individuals should research from trusted sources, not "ask their doctor about" or decide based on gut instinct. I don't think it's OK to let Pepsi and Coke sink their mental manipulation hooks into your brain... let alone political candidates and drugs.
- toomuchtodo 4y agoThe US and New Zealand are the only countries in the world that allow pharma ads. https://www.health.harvard.edu/medications/do-not-get-sold-on-drug-advertising https://www.health.harvard.edu/medications/do-not-get-sold-o...
- rglover 4y agoHey man, I didn't know I had restless leg syndrome until they told me I did in the commercial. My left eye twitches now but at least my legs don't shake when I sleep.
- distrill 4y agowho knew that had a name! i always just called that Jimmy Legs
- AdamH12113 4y agoNote that the restriction period is not a ban on all ads, it's a period during which new ads will not be approved. From the article (emphasis mine): >We will not allow any new ads about social issues, elections or politics in the US from 12:01 AM PT on Tuesday, November 1, 2022 through 11:59 PM PT on Tuesday, November 8, 2022. >In order to run ads about social issues, elections or politics in the US during the restriction period, the ads must be created with a valid disclaimer and have delivered an impression prior to 12:01 AM PT on Tuesday, November 1, 2022, but with limited editing capabilities.
- ChumpTheMasses 4y agowhy are my social interactions susceptible to advertisements?
- zdragnar 4y agobecause you socialize on someone else's property? It's not really any different than going to a bar with 10 different channels playing on TVs showing various sports events that have ads running.
- skyyler 4y agoWith the way Facebook mixes ads with content, a more apt description would be "It's not really any different than going to a bar with 90% of the people present actually being paid actors there to promote something" No one would go to that bar. The one cigarette rep at a busy bar of over 50 people is annoying enough...
- zdragnar 4y agoAnecdotally, that sounds about right. However, FB claims to have ~2.9 billion monthly active users, and countries like the UK and India have significantly more active users than in the US or Canada, so your experience on FB is largely dependent on how active your network actually is. Not to beat the bar analogy further to death than it already is, but the last bar I went to had TVs on every wall... no matter where you looked or who you were looking at, there was a TV within your peripheral vision just waiting to display a flashy ad that would draw your attention. In any case, I hate the social experience at bars and on FB equally, so I generally choose to socialize elsewhere, and don't have to deal with the ads either way.
- skyyler 4y agoI just go to bars that don't have TVs. Gay bars in SF, especially "bear bars" don't tend to have 24/7 content streams running.
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- egberts1 4y agoOh cool, now Meta can fish for any and all pending ads for attack vectors and somehow get it leaked to their opponents. Well done, Facebook. Well done, Meta.