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AI-Generated Bible Art
- possiblelion 4y agoDalle generated images from specific Bible quote prompts. This website (openbible) is really fascinating overall, I recommend checking out their different sections.
- ars 4y agoUnfortunately that's not what it is. If you hover the mouse over the image you will see the actual prompt - which is a human, Christian, interpretation of the verse, not the actual verse. I am disappointed. (I say Christian because no Jew would ever give that prompt for "Expulsion from Eden".)
- bustadjustme 4y agoNote that the prompt is AI-generated as well, though. From the linked blog post: > OpenAI has another AI, GPT-3, that I used to generate many of the ideas for DALL·E prompts. I wanted to explore DALL·E using a wide variety of styles and artists, and I have limitations and biases when it comes to my knowledge of art history. GPT-3 cast a wider net of styles and artists than I would’ve come up with on my own.... The GPT-3 prompts I used evolved over time, but this one is emblematic: > Suggest 5 unique concept ideas for a work of visual art inspired by Luke 14:7-11 (do not pick the place of honor) in the Bible. Include art direction and a specific medium and artist to emulate. Include artists from a variety of eras, styles, and media. Try for an unusual perspective. Title, year, medium. Description.
- visarga 4y agoNot just the Bible, I expect many fans to start generating illustrations for their favourite novels.
- joemazerino 4y agoVery cool.
- what-imright 4y agoI’m pretty concerned about a AI generating infectious memes and memeplexes/religions. It doesn’t take much to start a religious genocide. Look at Hong Xiuquan, the brother of jesus from China. 30 million dead. Synthetic religion could be so convincing it sucks us all into some delusion
- mberg0 4y ago
- vitiral 4y agoIt's a-theist, not a-positive. It can be confusing. One positive might be protection against meme religions? Hopefully?
- greenhearth 4y ago
- dang 4y agoCould you please stop posting flamewar comments and/or using HN for political/ideological battle? Your account has unfortunately already been posting like that quite a bit, and we end up having to ban such accounts. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
- greenhearth 4y agoOk, sorry about that, I'll try to follow the rules. But what's the fun in message boards if you can't have some snark and spirit once in a while :)? I can take it, as well as give it, btw.
- greenhearth 4y agoUpdate: Hey, after reading the rules, I don't believe I've written anything egregiously violating, except maybe push back on some opinions, which were themselves based in ideology. I don't flame without any reason, I just respond when I feel strongly that something that posted is wrong on some level. And I don't press anything either, just express an opposing point of view to some statement that obviously needs it. Thanks for the warning though, all the best!
- api 4y agoThey all look like psychedelic album covers. I would listen to every one of them.
- guestbest 4y agoHas anyone created psychedelic AI generated music?
- smoldesu 4y agoYes, the results have been really mixed. On the one hand, you have people trying to generate MIDI compositions with AI. This works alright, but a machine-learning model doesn't understand which musical cues are significant and which are not. We have no good 'classification' metrics for music, which means that most procgen MIDI tunes are listenable, but about as boring as Chinese bootleg NES soundtracks circa late-80s. On the other hand, you have people actually trying to recreate actual music a-la DALL-E or Stable Diffusion. This has slightly better results (since AI has an easier time parsing a finished product), but still pretty far away from being interesting to the ear. There's plenty of examples on YouTube, you'll probably get the gist after just 1 or 2 of them. All of this really goes to show what a serendipitous project AI image generation has been. On it's face, we're frankly solving a really simple problem; how do we make a black box that can identify visual parameters and then synthesize their consequences in a photo? The nuance involved with making interesting music is a much different arena though, and I reckon that we simply don't have advanced enough classification to make it work.
- tmountain 4y agoI love this, and I have been enjoying DALL-E quite a bit, but does anyone else feel like AI art has a distinct look to it? I can't really put my finger on it, but it invokes an almost unsettling feeling that I don't get from traditional artwork.
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- ars 4y agoIt's because it's easy to see how it takes an existing artwork and modifies it. For example when asked to paint Noah it used a stereotypical image of last century Jews. How would it know that Noah is linked with Jews, if not by finding another painting labeled Noah and working off of that?
- dougmwne 4y agoThis is where it gets interesting. The model is just 4.5gb. That’s too small to contain the actual trillion images it was trained on. So in all likelihood, it doesn’t have an actual specific image of Noah to work from, but a web of concepts, connections, correlations. It’s probably analogous to if you were asked to draw a picture in the style of Da Vinci. Most peoples’ brains can’t reproduce the exact image, but a low fidelity representation of it that they can fill in with imagination. If you run the same prompt multiple times you can start to see evidence of this. The images are similar but also clearly different, not at all a quick transformation of an existing image.
- ars 4y agoIt was trained with 400 million images, not a trillion. That's 11 bytes per image, and since most images are quite duplicative that actually is enough to more or less store every image permutation.
- ryankrage77 4y agoSo it can store a little over 400 million images that are 3 pixels by 3 pixels in black and white. Or 2 by 2 pixels with three colours.
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- jp57 4y agoSo interesting that Adam and Eve are clothed. Of course this is easily explained if most of the training data contains clothed people and if the prompts don't explicitly say they should be nude. But I wonder, can DALL-E produce nudes, or has it been prevented somehow?
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- vorpalhex 4y agoStableDiffusion can, with tweaks, but not very well. You know the issue where it isn't quite sure how many legs people have? Yeah that applies to.. other.. body parts too.
- rtev 4y agoI think that’s a feature!
- milsorgen 4y agoI've seen some pretty good (and tasteful) stuff out of SD on some forums. Not sure how much time people are spending to get that output but I've been impressed with some of the human forms in general people are getting.
- becquerel 4y agoSorry guys, I asked them not to include me in their training set, but...
- andsoitis 4y agoNudes are prevented, at least on my account. Art galleries and museums around the world are amused.
- cma 4y agoOpenAI trained up DALL-E 2's morality policy on the biography of John Ashcroft.
- folbec 4y agoAppropriately soppy and generic.
- folbec 4y agofor those who can read french : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Style_sulpicien https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Style_sulpicien
- speedgoose 4y agoAnd for those who can’t: https://www.deepl.com/ https://www.deepl.com/
- vorpalhex 4y agoI wonder if we will see AI generated art replace a lot of stock photo usage...
- marcodiego 4y agoI wonder the impact DALL-E will have on abstract art. Maybe we'll see a severe devaluation of abstract artists since most people will be unable to differentiate human from computer generated art.
- andybak 4y agoThat has always been the case to some degree (I remember Douglas Hofstadter asking people to distinguish synthetic Mondrian vs real Mondrian several decades ago). I think what's changed is actually somewhat more radical. Most people will soon be unable to differentiate human from computer generated representational art.
- i_like_apis 4y agoSoon we will create our own god.
- krapp 4y agoWe created all of our gods.
- i_like_apis 4y agoTrue. The new ones won’t just be fantasies, though.
- ipnon 4y agoDo androids pray to electronic gods?
- no-dr-onboard 4y agoAt first glance I was relatively amazed at how beautiful and imaginitive some of these works are. After returning to the HN comments and reading the quip about how the prompts are oddly specific (and verifying myself) my amazement quickly diffused :/.
- ghostfacekeller 4y agoThe blog post linked from the page mentions the prompts came from GPT-3
- k__ 4y agoStably, I hope.
- karaterobot 4y agoThis is cool, but why make illustrations of biblical scenes in a style that has already been done hundreds, if not thousands of times by human painters? Why not do like a full illustration of the bible in vaporwave, or in the style of a Wes Anderson movie?
- aaroninsf 4y agoOMG the Wes Anderson bible. Take my mon—er upvote.
- amelius 4y agoAnd let GPT-3 apply a style change to the text while you're at it.
- ben_w 4y agoMe: Rewrite the book of Genesis in the style of a limerick GPT-3: There was a man named Adam Who was the first of all men He lived in a garden With his wife, Eve And they ate an apple And then they had to leave
- adgjlsfhk1 4y agoso AI doesn't understand rhyme schemes yet...
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- aaroninsf 4y agoVaguely related: I have been contemplating that if-when I get to participate in another D&D campaign, it would be both easy and amazing to use MidJourney (or whatever), to prepare art for sessions and/or even make it on the fly as needed. The lag between notion, and serviceable rendering with the right set of details... ...but not so much that night-before preparation of a half-dozen choice/likely images would be a burden. And "realtime" is just going to get closer.
- gylterud 4y agoIndeed – the first thing I did in Midjourney was to create this for my upcomming D&D campaign, set in a dessert world: https://hakon.gylterud.net/img/dessert_mindflayer-scaled.jpg https://hakon.gylterud.net/img/dessert_mindflayer-scaled.jpg
- dqpb 4y agoI wonder where OpenAI’s moral decree on AI-Generated Quran Art would land.
- ducktective 4y agoThe writing on the wall ? :\
- scop 4y agoI would love to see AI's attempt at Ezekiel's vision in chapter 1.
- mikotodomo 4y agoWouldn't you stop believing in god after seeing this if you were a Christian? It just proves that we are just machines. Our feelings are just chemical reactions. All someone had to do was a bunch of math to make a program emulate a human.
- wsgeorge 4y agoI'm not sure how this necessarily leads to a disbelief in the Christian God, because... > All someone had to do was a bunch of math to make a program emulate a human. Christian theology says that, that "someone" who did it first was God. And, > It just proves that we are just machines. fits quite nicely with the idea that creation is subordinate to the Deity that made it.
- mikotodomo 4y agoBut there is no soul if we are all machines. There is no heaven. You just die and there will be a black screen.
- unethical_ban 4y agoTo extend the metaphor, how do you know? What if your instance is taken to another server depending on how you behaved in this one, given a prompt? Were you kind to the other machines and sufficiently obeyed instructions despite it not fitting your logical model? If so, enjoy the "heaven" server where you live in peace and harmony. Did you grief the "universe" server by harming others and going against the default programming? You get put in the "purgatory" or "hell" servers where you await indefinite torment.
- krapp 4y agoIf we're just machines, it isn't possible for us to go against the default programming, because code only does exactly what it does, nothing more and nothing less. That's what "machines" implies in this context.
- unethical_ban 4y agoI wish the UI allowed easier reading, selection and copying of the full prompt. "Hover for img-alt" is not mobile friendly nor share-friendly, nor friendly for old eyes. The project itself is very interesting.
- throw7 4y agoDon't the orthodox have approved way/rules of creating biblical art? It would be interesting to restrict the ai-generation to those set of rules.
- mike_hock 4y ago> "You will not fear the terror of night" KEK. It drew a manga. Also KEK: > Birth of Christ As an old RPG > The parable of the lost sheep That steampunk sheep > The Last Supper In a sci-fi conference room in Manhattan
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- kerblang 4y agoI hadn't noticed this before with AI art, but the faces are all deformed. The animals are practically headless.
- jjuliano 4y agoLORD is a title, not a name. FYI. For example, Psa 83:18, the name of God was replaced by generic title 'the LORD' like a wildcard, so it reads "Let them know that you, WHOSE NAME is the Lord—". so it can also written as "Let them know that you, WHOSE NAME is the SOFTWARE ENGINEER". Who is the immortal living and true God in the Bible behind that LORD you are addressing/devoting to? There are millions of false/dead God nowadays who can't help you, but only one true living God exists that will. It is important to know. Being specific is more helpful, genuine and sincere, than vaguely calling a generic wildcard title (in which, God has every right to not respond, since your devoted addressee is questionable.). Research: See the correlation between the Isa 42:8, Exo 3:15, Matthew 6:9, John 12:28, John 17:26, Pro 18:10, Joel 2:32, Micah 4:5, Acts 15:4, and Psa 83:18. See that the generic wildcard name does not fit the picture, and understand how important it is for us to use God's personal name.
- tsol 4y agoThis is neat. Honestly though.. they're not very good. They're rather all rather generic and many of them aren't illustrating the verse very clearly. It makes sense-- DALLE prompts tend to be very specific and it looks like for the most part they just used bible verses while attaching phrases like Classical Art, Painting, 2022, etc. With more work by the author to create a more specific prompt you can probably make some really great stuff
- lethologica 4y agoI get a very Clipart vibe from a lot of these.
- kakwa_ 4y agoI'm really wondering how many out of these are almost copy pastes of existing pictures. I just saw down the list an almost verbatim copy of the well known photo of the heart in the Amazon, so I'm really skeptical.
- narrator 4y agoDeath of Jezebel doesn't really go with the rest: https://a.openbible.info/labs/ai-bible-art/1024/death-jezebel-3.jpg https://a.openbible.info/labs/ai-bible-art/1024/death-jezebe...
- nahuel0x 4y agoWhat happens when instead of an static sacred book you have a sacred oracle who can generate any image and can answer all your questions? One whose way of work is even a mystery to his creators. Probably we will see new cults and religions welling up around AI.
- MatthewCampbell 4y agoCue TempleOS
- CobrastanJorji 4y agoTempleOS has a number of interesting Oracular things. The F7 button gives you a random Bible word, and Shift+F7 gives you a random Bible passage. The author claimed that God provided guidance through this functionality. Lower down, TempleOS's "god" library was a 'random' number generator that was seeded/pre-populated with the entirety of the KJV. The "GodBits" function would get you "random" numbers from it.
- vvoid 4y agoI worked on a project once involving divination from texts and wrote Terry about this topic. Here's what he told me (2015): """The easiest way to pick a random passage is to read timer that is in the random 1-20Mhz. If you have a faster timer, then divide by a number. The Bible is 4Meg. You want a random number from 0 to 4 million. The Bible is 100,000 lines of text. If you have the Bible in memory being edited, broken down by line number, you can pick a random line number from 0 to 100,000. If you flip 17 coins, you get a random number from 0 to 120,000. I use that for picking a line number. God can do pretty-much any technique. The simplest and best is probably just randomly opening the Bible by hand.""" RIP.
- userbinator 4y agoAmusingly, https://a.openbible.info/labs/ai-bible-art/1024/let-land-produce-living-2.jpg https://a.openbible.info/labs/ai-bible-art/1024/let-land-pro... looks more like loaves of bread wrapped in plastic bags on the near shore, and on the far shore, that along with bits of rubbish.
- sorokod 4y agoShame,no flaming sword in the Expulsion from Eden images.