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The experience is so awful when I browse on my iPad, instead of my Android phone with Firefox+UBlock. I really don't understand how most people can stand to br
by Larrikin 4y ago
The experience is so awful when I browse on my iPad, instead of my Android phone with Firefox+UBlock.
I really don't understand how most people can stand to browse with all the ads. The modern web is so much worse than the pop up ads of the old web.
- Yhippa 4y agoIt's almost like half the membership here are trying to serve you ads and the other half are trying to avoid them.
- yomkippur 4y agoBecause their soon-to-be-had wealth is tied to serving ads and the rest of us don't want it.
- Loughla 4y agoI do find the conversations here about ads very interesting. I would assume that some of the people in this forum are actually responsible for what we're literally talking about.
- Firmwarrior 4y agoThey come out of the woodwork and try to argue their position occasionally, but get buried in downvotes and slink away The position is usually something along the lines of: - They ignore the incredibly invasive tracking/profiling/security risks involved with downloading and running malicious third-party unvetted ad code - It's stealing if you block ads - Micropayments/subscriptions just don't work well enough
- manquer 4y agoThere is probably an overlap too , I mean it is not like people who work for ad networks like Facebook and google want to see ads either
- neonsunset 4y agoJust get Adguard it's really good.
- mullen 4y agoThe best part about Adguard is that there is nothing to really get. You just start using the DNS servers and it just works. Some stuff slips through here and there but not for long as the DNS servers catch up on blocking new Ad Serving servers.
- AlwaysRock 4y agoI dont browse on my phone that often. I have a iphone 16 mini and it isnt that fun to browse with. I pretty much only use it when I have to to search something on the go.
- jaywalk 4y agoWhoa, you have an iPhone 16 Mini??? What's the future like??
- AlwaysRock 4y ago13? 14? Whatever the version is that came out this year.
- adolph 4y agoThe close button is very easy to use and doesn't require additional software (each solution having upgrades/costs/breakage of its own in addition to the browser).
- mikeryan 4y agoOne of my happier hacks was setting up home assistant for home automation with adguard and WireGuard VPN. Whole house ad blocking and my iPhone is pretty much consistently attached to my home VPN to take advantage of the ad blocking. There’s some small pain points with using public wifi with login screens, enough so that I haven’t had my wife use it yet but I dig it.
- brightball 4y agoI've been using NextDNS on my iDevices and generally don't see any issues.
- kiririn 4y agoHTML level content filtering is built into iOS Safari (so whatever Adblock app you use physically cannot access your browsing data) iOS also has system-wide DNS ad blocking via DNS-over-HTTPS profiles, without needing any apps or on-device VPN hacks, and that works for all networks/cellular seamlessly.
- FractalHQ 4y agoI use Brave Browser on iPad (and desktop) so ads are blocked by default. Highly recommend!
- r00fus 4y agoYou can get the same experience by paying Google $10/mo. If you can stomach the cost, you can get this for all your family for $18/mo. I can't get everyone on adblockers for all their devices so this is worth it to me. Of course, I also setup basic content blockers where I can as well.
- yomkippur 4y ago> iPad there's your problem right there.
- irrational 4y agoHave you tried installing the safari extension Purify on iOS? It has removed the majority of ads for me.
- skrowl 4y agoTake a look at Samsung Tab S8 Ultra. I love mine! Having a choice in web browsers along with emulators and real file system access were major reasons why I'll never go back to iPad.
- Polyphonie 4y agoSafari introduced 3rd party ad blocker 7 years ago. If you want to run ad-blocker in 3rd party browser and apps, install and run Adguard Pro from the App Store. That’s been around for at least 5 to 6 years.
- dchest 4y ago1Blocker works fine for me on iPad.
- laurent123456 4y agoEven without the ads, you still have multiple cookie popups and banners, floating videos and newsletter notifications to closes before getting to the content. And of course as you scroll down some of those come back (floating videos in particular). There was a time where you could just close the tab if it was that bad, but now pretty much all websites are like this so there's no choice.
- fezfight 4y agoublock takes care of quite a few of those things, too. There are more lists you can activate in the options.
- squarefoot 4y agoYeah, lots of junk is added today, not just ads. I can't find the link right now but I'm sure I saw a couple years ago (probably linked here) an article showing that over half of the data traffic is either ads or junk that wastes bandwidth, which isn't flat on mobile.
- zasdffaa 4y agoThere's always a choice. I have no problem with any popups/banners/videos etc. Zero.
- zasdffaa 4y agoTo the downvoters: I block everything and disable js totally. Choice is yours to make.
- citruscomputing 4y agoDitch the cookie pop-ups by adding a custom filter list: https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu/abp/ https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu/abp/ Enable the uBlock "annoyances" filters to staunch the tide of popups.
- eru 4y agoWell, the cookie popups are only there because of regulation. You are right about all the rest.
- windowsrookie 4y agoWhy not use an ad blocker on your iPad? I use Wipr on my Mac and iPhone.
- heywire 4y agoAdGuard works great on iOS. Plenty of other options too.
- lloeki 4y agoSeconding AdGuard. Also, while not an ad blocker, Hush helps reclaim a bit of sanity regarding all these nagging GRPR/cookies "privacy" popups.
- pryelluw 4y agoThanks for posting. Just installed. Was looking for something similar.
- the_gipsy 4y agoJust installed (enabled under Settings->Safari->Ad blockers) and it doesn't work at all on some sites I tried. From what I know, it never will as long as Apple only allows shitty request inspection with allow/deny result. It just cannot work nowhere near as well as uBlock Origin.
- scarface74 4y agoYou mean if Apple adds the ability to add standard web extensions? https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safariservices/safari_web_extensions https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safariservices/saf...
- vachina 4y agoHave you tried initing or refreshing the filters? Adguard’s blocking is quite potent I.e. YouTube ads don’t play
- thesuitonym 4y agoDoes it block cookies, or just silently accept them?
- lloeki 4y ago
- kmlx 4y agothere are a multitude of adblockers for ipads and iphones.
- anonymousab 4y agoiOS blocking is extremely limited and insufficient - it's purely declarative and non-dynamic, and with a hard limit on the actual number of filter rules you can have. It is better than nothing but a world apart from a proper ad blocker and more or less insufficient for modern adtech.
- colinmhayes 4y agoiOS DNS filtering ad blockers are nice because they work on most apps and have 0 overhead. Unless the app is running first party ad auctions I no longer see any ads on my phone. A true blocker for the browser would definitely be nice, but I'm pretty happy with the current solution.
- mekster 4y agoThe future of adblocking seems network based as it can't be bypassed by Google's intention. It's easy to use when most OS can have default DNS over DoT/H that can also block non browser apps or even OS itself from connecting to tracking domains. Chromium based browsers seem to ignore OS default DNS servers unless instructed to use the system default.
- inglor 4y agoWhat's wrong with Firefox Focus as a Safari content blocker? I barely see ads on my iPhone and websites breaking because I have an ad blocker is more common than seeing ads.
- Larrikin 4y agoFirefox Focus only seems to block some ads and isn't configurable to block the many ads and web annoyances that get through. I also find it annoying that I lose access to my entire Firefox ecosystem on my computer and phone since the focus of the app is actually on anonymous browsing versus blocking ads. If I send tabs to my iPad they still open up in regular Firefox. Firefox Focus only slightly makes the web useable, while giving up most of the browser conveniences.
- nirimda 4y agoI've never knowingly encountered a website breaking because I have an adblocker, but I've being running adblockers of one sort or another for about as long as there's been ads on the web - so maybe there's just features I don't know I should experience. Can you give an example of a website that breaks with an adblocker? (Please describe what breaks as well. Otherwise I might not notice it.)
- 93po 4y agoI seen broken sites at least monthly. Uhaul's site broke for me yesterday (the photo upload process to tell them where to place a storage container). Vangaurd's login page doesn't work with adblock (completely doesn't show it) Don't have other examples off top of my head
- nirimda 4y agoThanks. We must have different internet usage patterns. I'm using ublock origin, maybe it's just less disruptive. Or maybe GDPR rules make sites in the EU more forgiving of blocked bits. For the ones you mentioned, Vanguard seems to have a lot of different login pages, but every one I found actually rendered - although some were white for so slow I wondered if they would fail. But not trying Uhaul because obviously I don't want to make a transaction.
- fuzzy2 4y agoOthers already mention adblockers exist for iOS. This is possible because Safari on iOS has support for declarative blocking (the inferior API compared to programmatically deciding what to block). https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safariservices/creating_a_content_blocker https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safariservices/cre... Initial content blocker support came with iOS 9 in 2015. They only work in Safari, maybe also other browsers (not sure though).
- tartoran 4y agoI confirm. Im seeing no ads on iOS in Safari with ad blocker. Works quite well and browsing experience is good. Should Ad blockers ever be rendered unfunctional I’d simply reduce my browsing to a minimum, I’d never ever stomach a regular browsing experience, it’s maddening, it’s potentially dangerous and not worth the hassle.
- smusamashah 4y agoUse brave instead. It's actually chrome with uBlock built in, kind of.
- mccorrinall 4y agoTry Orion browser on iOS/iPad. Afaik it’s the only browser that implements web extensions, therefore you can install any native firefox or chrome extension from the store. It’s by the makers of kagi.
- dividuum 4y agoJust stumbled upon that yesterday and gave it a try. While I could "install" uBlock Origin, it didn't seem to have any effect and the configuration page for it was completely blank. They also say "Orion even supports some extensions out of the box on iOS, but we have much more to do here" on their page, so I guess it's not there yet.
- scarface74 4y agoWell, the only browser on iOS if you exclude the one that’s built in. https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safariservices/safari_web_extensions https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safariservices/saf...
- Nextgrid 4y agoThe built-in extensions support isn't enough to support uBlock Origin.
- scarface74 4y agoWhat does uBlock do that 1Blocker can’t if you enable the web extension?
- Nextgrid 4y agouBlock has full control over the browser's network access and can run code to determine the outcome of the request. 1Blocker/AdGuard/etc use two mechanisms: 1) declarative blocking - where you can specify rules to allow/deny requests matching a certain pattern. Those rules need to be declared in advance, you can't do matching at runtime using custom code. 2) they inject a bit of JS into the page to try and tamper with malicious scripts that can't be touched by the declarative blocking. This is error-prone and potentially slow, and is not guaranteed to be bulletproof as the injected code runs with the same privileges as the malicious code. I could see potential race conditions where the malicious code manages to run and exfiltrate sensitive data before the blocking code has a chance of defusing it. The second approach is a horrible hack that only exists because extensions no longer have full control over the browser's networking, under the excuse of "security".
- danwee 4y ago> I really don't understand how most people can stand to browse with all the ads In my case, I browse a limited number of web sites that offer no ads (or a minimum amount). The moment I visit a web site with tons of ads, I just close it immediately and just ignore my original intention of visiting that website (e.g., this happens sometimes in HN: people link websites of newspapers, but I don't last in them more than 2 seconds)
- amf12 4y agoFor other websites, Chrome based browsers have a reader mode setting. I just use that.
- unicornporn 4y ago> I really don't understand how most people can stand to browse with all the ads People don't browse, they app.
- BbzzbB 4y agoEven then, most apps are just thinly veiled webapps for which the site (with Firefox and uBlock) provides the same or superior experience, ad-free.
- NavinF 4y agoEr no, most iOS apps are not thinly veiled webapps. Have you ever used iOS?
- judge2020 4y agoMost apps are moving to React Native especially if they're targeting Android and iOS, but that's still a far cry from being a wrapper around a webapp.
- raydev 4y agoI think this is only true for small biz. All the big names quietly or publicly abandoned their efforts to fully migrate to React Native, focusing only on the most simple use-cases/views if they do keep it around. Even with the smartest people working on it, it's tough to keep React Native performant.
- rajman187 4y agoI have AdGuard installed for Safari on my phone and it seems to do fine. Also have a pihole on home network (which unfortunately due to the router I can’t block ipv6 traffic but whatever is left going via ipv4 is at least blocked)
- kekebo 4y agoI can also recommend Adguard (mentioned in sibling comments), but also for everyone using Mullvad, their iOS client offers ad/tracker/malware blocking as well (via vpn/dns).
- christophilus 4y agoI use Brave on iOS, and it's great.
- egwor 4y agoI install Sanitize since I was struggling to get web sites to work. There was one web site where I couldn’t close the advert to get to the actual site!!
- pqs 4y agoI send everything to Pocket.
- dark-star 4y ago> I really don't understand how most people can stand to browse with all the ads I mainly browse the web on my PC or laptop at home, which has a browser-integrated adblocker + PiHole. When I need a browser while on the go, I usually just use it to google things and for some quick lookups the experience is "okay", longer and more in-depth web surfing will be deferred to my home PC using the "tabs from other devices" functionality
- koheripbal 4y agoI also use adguard DNS that filters ad urls.
- Octabrain 4y agoIn my case, not being able to use Firefox (and therefore all the extensions including ublock) was the main reason (among others) to get rid of my iPhone 12 pro and go back to a modest Android.
- scarface74 4y agoiOS has supported ad blocking since iOS 8 and has supported your standard web extensions for a couple of years.
- disintegore 4y agoThings got so bad that eventually browser vendors single-handedly put a stop to it. That would never have happened if the people making the pop-up ads also controlled a majority of the browser market.
- easytiger 4y agoBest browser for ad blocking on mobile I found is Vivaldi. Benchmarked on reach plc websites. If I open one in Chrome it actually freezes it up
- pdimitar 4y ago1Blocker installed locally + PiHole on the router / the local network. Nearly spotless experience, costs me 10 bucks a year. And everyone at home is protected.
- Terretta 4y ago> The experience is so awful when I browse on my iPad, instead of my Android phone with Firefox+UBlock. I really don't understand how most people can stand to browse with all the ads. Most people don’t. Most people who use anything for iOS tend to use things like: - 1Blocker - super full featured, including custom script and css rules. business model is paid software, not ‘acceptable ads’ paying them for placement or third parties paying for your data - AdGuard Pro - Similar to 1Blocker, less custom config friendly - https://nextdns.io/ https://nextdns.io/ - pihole type blocker with unlimited configurations, custom rules, and analytics, native hooks for devices - https://adguard-dns.io/ https://adguard-dns.io/ - similar DNS[1] service to nextdns.io with ability to upload your own rules based configurations - Firefox Focus if using that ecosystem - Brave if using that ecosystem - iCab Mobile if wanting a super configurable browser with filter rules and longest history as indie browser for iOS Folks also use ancillary quieters such as: - Hiya - call / sms blocking - Hushed - throwaway numbers for spam SMS - - - 1. Note that the AdGuard public DNS server including custom DNS filtering rules has just (26 August 2022) gone open source: https://adguard.com/en/blog/adguard-dns-2-0-goes-open-source.html https://adguard.com/en/blog/adguard-dns-2-0-goes-open-source...
- deelowe 4y agoMost people do this? I seriously doubt it.
- rootusrootus 4y agoWithin the context of people who know what uBlock origin is, given that was the original comparison, 'most' sounds accurate.
- remram 4y agoThat was not the context. 4 posts up: "I really don't understand how most people can stand to browse with all the ads"
- Supermancho 4y ago
- mnd999 4y agoI just Adblock at the router level on my Turris Omnia. WireGuard into that and out again when mobile.
- mark_l_watson 4y agoI do most of my web browsing with my iPad, preferring to default to private browsing tabs. Recently with iPadOS 16 beta, I find the Lockdown mode works well for me. As I write this, I just realized why I have a pleasant browsing experience: unless I am searching for tech info, I don’t do much browsing except for a few favorite sites.