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Welcome to the automated account suspension age of the internet, where companies shoot first and don't care later, as the amount of false positives is not worth
by 0x_rs 4y ago
Welcome to the automated account suspension age of the internet, where companies shoot first and don't care later, as the amount of false positives is not worth putting any meagerly (if there's any already) real, physical support to resolve. This can apply to smaller companies too, for other but equally pricey reasons. The amount of fraudulent activity attempts online may warrant those aggressive measures from their business perspective (that are also not limited to passive data collection, but taking active steps such as scanning targets' ports [0]).
Unfortunately, if you live in certain areas or are forced to use mobile networks, with IPs constantly refreshing multiple times a day, major services can be almost unusable, and the user may not even realize the reason why. Some—for reasons I'm not knowledgeable about—do it better than others, but it may simply be about the resources put into it and the amount of risk a miss could amount to.
0. https://blog.nem.ec/2020/05/24/ebay-port-scanning/ https://blog.nem.ec/2020/05/24/ebay-port-scanning/
- noobermin 4y agoStuff like this is an example of the failure of the market, because it's market wide and it's not like a service that actually puts labor into handling cases will find an advantage in the market and thus there is no incentive for it. This is a place where regulation actually makes sense.
- jhugo 4y agoMy company avoids Google Cloud and uses their competitors for exactly this reason - it's a business risk to depend on Google for anything. On the consumer side it would be hard to market the advantage though because everyone thinks it won't won't happen to them (and as long as they are average enough, it probably won't), and the cost of being banned from eBay is not that big if you're just a casual user.
- grishka 4y ago> Unfortunately, if you live in certain areas or are forced to use mobile networks, with IPs constantly refreshing multiple times a day, major services can be almost unusable Here's a handy list of valid uses for IP addresses: 1. Packet routing.
- yjftsjthsd-h 4y agoI'm okay with very short lived IP bans to fight DDoS attacks. But yeah, that's about it.
- nhadgtyuh 4y ago
- ineedasername 4y agoHow am I to remember all that? I need a mnemonic.
- rdfi 4y agoI wonder if you can, under GDPR, request that all your data is deleted and then create a new account. Not allowing you to create a new account could be argued as a violation of GDPR as it would mean that they kept personally identifiable data about you.
- maxpro 4y agoNot really, as GDPR is not only about screwing up big companies. Certain kind of data must be saved by companies (like financial transactions). You can request the deletion, but they are still allowed to save some of the data.
- andylynch 4y agoKeeping PII for fraud detection is not barred by GDPR. In this context the more relevant aspect of GDPR, which I think receives too little attention and more so enforcement, is article 22 (Automated individual decision-making, including profiling)
- WaxProlix 4y agoThis is what I was going to say. As an American, I have no recourse in these situations. Europeans are fortunate to have governing bodies with at least some teeth. Not sure how that applies to UK citizens post-Brexit, though.
- conradfr 4y agoThey have the UK-GDPR now. https://www.cookiebot.com/en/uk-gdpr/ https://www.cookiebot.com/en/uk-gdpr/
- rootusrootus 4y ago> As an American A bit over 10% (and probably somewhat higher than 10% on HN) of Americans do have something like GDPR. California Consumer Privacy Act. I'm not including Colorado, Virginia, or Utah because I'm not sure how equivalent their laws are.
- vageli 4y ago
- holoduke 4y agoThe should make a movie in which a person gets expelled from society because of a bug. In his long quest for his reinstatement, he needs to endure the great corrupted algorithms trying to erase him for good.
- phillc73 4y agoNot quite what you describe, but in this short film Utopia, similar themes are explored - exclusion from society due to non-compliance with the "digital lifestyle." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJYaXy5mmA8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJYaXy5mmA8
- ChuckMcM 4y agoI give you "Brazil" (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088846/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088846/) edit: typo corrected, thanks.
- als0 4y ago"Brazil"
- a-dub 4y agoone of my all-time favorites! ...aaand this is my receipt, for your receipt.
- MrPatan 4y agoLove it. The "studio ending" makes it even more Orwellian, to the point I wonder if they did that on purpose. (Can that much competence be true?)
- tomc1985 4y agoWonderful movie, but good god is it long and hard to watch at times
- ss2003 4y agoSo is life
- catsarebetter 4y agoThis is why niche products and small businesses can succeed
- nitwit005 4y agoThe value of an auction site relates to the number of users it has, so it's difficult for a competitor to appear and dislodge it.
- deleted 4y ago[deleted]
- sam1r 4y agoThanks for posting this article. My mind is completely blown. I just have one question for those reading this. >> so it’s possible that eBay has been scanning customers’ computers for almost seven years without too many people noticing. Can't one check the archive.org for signup.ebay.com & verify this? Saying ebay has been port-scanning for 7 years and proving so, would be a much stronger point. Surprised the OP did not check.
- d1lanka 4y agoSimilar thing happened to me with Offerup - which is MILITANT about not using VPN's. They banned me and no recourse/way to appeal. I even sent them a physical letter without much luck. Pitty, I loved the app, but stopped using it due to their unnecessary/strict no-VPN rule.