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Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?
- juanani 5y ago
- rasz 5y ago[flagged]
- hacka22 5y agoThread in English: https://twitter.com/zerforschung/status/1480924205352996870 https://twitter.com/zerforschung/status/1480924205352996870
- est31 5y agohttps://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1480924205352996870.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1480924205352996870.html
- dang 5y agoChanged from https://twitter.com/zerforschung/status/1480919124117274625 https://twitter.com/zerforschung/status/1480919124117274625. We have the deepest respect for the German language, but HN is an English language site and posts here need to be in English. It's hard enough to get people to read the articles even when they are.
- jgwil2 5y agoIf that's a hard requirement, you should consider adding it to the guidelines because it is currently undocumented.
- dang 5y agohttps://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20english-language%20site&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... There are a ton of things like that. If we added them all to the guidelines, no one would read the guidelines. I fear they're already too long.
- tasogare 5y ago
- financetechbro 5y ago“Continue working”… he’s an international tennis star that probably doesn’t need to work an extra day in his life, not a mother of 4 working 12 hours days to make ends meet. Also his only loss would be losing the opportunity to win another Australian Open. But I guess superstars don’t have to make sacrifices like us regular people have had to throughout the pandemic.
- angryGhost 5y agohe's world #1... you have to work incredibly hard to achieve that (and maintain it)
- Scoundreller 5y agoI find it funny how some countries suddenly make your life a lot easier if you have a positive test history. Canada has a fairly annoying requirement to have a negative PCR test taken within 72h of takeoff (or arrival by car), which can be dicey/expensive in many parts of the world to get, but if you have a positive PCR result from 14-180 days, this requirement drops and travel gets a lot easier than those that never got a positive covid test. Regardless of vaccination status.
- oxymoran 5y agoWhy is that surprising? Recovering from a natural infection is more durable immunity than that of the vaccines. Even more so if you have both.
- tppiotrowski 5y agoOP might think it's funny because it appears beneficial to seek an infection despite all guidance to avoid it.
- piva00 5y agoAs an anecdote, that's exactly the behaviour/mentality I've heard from some people I know that still refuse to take the vaccine. They are young and fit, and their reasoning is exactly that, it's easier to just get infected, recover, and get papers for traveling that are valid for 6 months... Perverse incentives showing up, as usual.
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- petre 5y agoIt's a gamble. I'd rather benefit from all the readily available medical science developments before I get infected. In Europe getting infected is generally only valid for 180 days for travel. From what I know only Hungary would grant longer recovery certificates based on an antibody test.
- tppiotrowski 5y agoI just recently learned about the OSINT (Open-Source Intelligence) community but it seems like a powerful force for validating information online.
- aix1 5y agoI really enjoyed We Are Bellingcat (a book by Eliot Higgins) as well as the Bellingcat documentary: https://www.bellingcatfilm.com/ https://www.bellingcatfilm.com/
- shmatt 5y agoGood for Serbia for implementing some centralized system. A PCR test result in the U.S has absolutely no way of being verified, either negative or positive In Israel, which swabs every person who lands at the airport. There is a suspiciously steady stream of people flying in from the U.S who were negative before take off and positive 10 minutes after landing
- jat850 5y agoI do not think that is entirely true - all my PCR tests have contained the name of the lab where the test was performed as well as the performing (or, in some cases), supervising physician. That does not mean it is easy to verify test results, but it should be possible.
- iechoz6H 5y agoDoesn't the thread suggest someone has fiddled the system on Djokovic's behalf? If that's the case then the centralized PCR verification system is nothing but a house of cards.
- the_svd_doctor 5y agoMore that someone faked the paper certificates, imho.
- tppiotrowski 5y agoNo centralised government conspiracy needs to be invoked here. The corresponding QR codes in the documents still point to a negative and a positive test result in the Serbian database. The charge is that the Date of Sampling/Sample ID/Date of Results was swapped in what appears a Word document [1] [1] https://twitter.com/zerforschung/status/1480924213309550594/photo/1 https://twitter.com/zerforschung/status/1480924213309550594/...
- MomoXenosaga 5y agoIf a government wants to falsify information on that level everything is a house of cards. The Netherlands could make up 5000 ghost identities and issue them passports. How would passport control at JFK airport know?
- boringg 5y agoMore fuel to the fire - no reason he should get a pass when other people can't. Sorry - it's only tennis and he's trying to cheat to get in. This isn't to political leaders talking about the fate of their people.
- joshenberg 5y agoEspecially in tennis where tournaments are designed to be 'open', that is semi-professional and allowing for amateur entrants. If he were professionally affiliated with a particular country, that might be an extenuating circumstance. But as he is a private citizen seeking glory in AU, it's inappropriate to make an exception in this case.
- mfer 5y agoThe exception was a process provided by the Australian Open tournament. More than 20 people applied for it and a handful of people were approved. Should all of the people who got exceptions be turned away now? Was the Australian Open tournament wrong for providing this process? Was Novak wrong for taking advantage of a process provided by the tournament?
- megous 5y ago> Should all of the people who got exceptions be turned away now? Some (or maybe all) already were.
- chrisseaton 5y ago> in tennis where tournaments are designed to be 'open' I thought 'open' meant 'open to people from outside the host region' not 'open to amateurs and professionals alike'?
- boringg 5y agoOpens are for amateurs - see the golf open tournaments as well. Its kind of like open enrollment
- woodruffw 5y agoCould someone double-check my understanding of this? Is the conclusion that Djokovic lied about the order (and specific dates) of his PCR tests, with the goal of entering Australia while still testing positive?
- hugh-avherald 5y agoAn alternative conclusion is that the entire test certificate was faked and the bogus timestamp is the smoking gun.
- giarc 5y agoI don't think the certificate validity is in question since the URLs of the Serbia government sites can be accessed. Unless the implication is that Serbian government aided in the fraud.
- jokethrowaway 5y agoMost likely the system is available to tons of pharmacies / testing centres. They have access to a system able to grant passes. You just need to corrupt one to give you whatever pass you need. That's how the "Adolf Hitler" pass was generated a few months ago.
- gruez 5y agoIf corruption was involved, I'm surprised they didn't go for the more straightforward route of using an infected swab from someone else (get it from the hospital or something) and using that as the first test.
- mdoms 5y agoWhat difference would that have made? None of the evidence in the dispute is focused on the test result itself, it's all about when and by whom the data was entered.
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- alexk307 5y agoI honestly don't even care if he's vaccinated or not. He's one of the best Tennis players of all time, and if he wants to be unvaccinated, he should have the right. However, he doesn't have the right to provide a fraudulent test result in order to enter into a country with its own rules, and a Tennis tournament with its own rules. Covid or not, vaccine or not, this is a scummy move by one of the world's most influential athlete.
- shtopointo 5y agoFeel the same – even if this test investigation is true (looks true) he can plead ignorance of course by saying he doesn't know how that system works. In effect, if his team + Serbian gov't manipulated the tests, I'm not sure what the recourse is, except for the Australian gov't to sue the Serbian gov't?
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- CallMeJim 5y agoIgnorance of the law is no excuse (in most/all jurisdictions). Australia's recourse would be to deny him entry.
- singlow 5y agoIf he committed fraud, they could arrest him and charge him criminally.
- ArnoNym 5y agoIf he delegates that declaration he still is responsible. That's the normal and perfect consequence of the concept of legal representation. You cannot just hand your duty over to others and then get away with anything. And honestly if there is one thing he must have known, regardless how many overpaid aids he employed, that is whether his test actually came back positive. So the struggle involves him rightly, not the Serbian government or whoever aided and abetted a wrong committed on Nov. Dj.'s behalf.
- A_No_Name_Mouse 5y agoI wonder why they only show a picture of the non-contested negative test and not the positive one with the disputed URL so we can validate the evidence ourselves.
- Schweigi 5y agoAffidavit with picture of positive result is on page 11: https://www.fedcourt.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0019/95050/Affidavit-of-Novak-Djokovic-sworn-on-10-January-2022.pdf https://www.fedcourt.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0019/9505... All files are here: https://www.fcfcoa.gov.au/migration-law/online-file/djokovic https://www.fcfcoa.gov.au/migration-law/online-file/djokovic
- joncrane 5y ago"And with that, we pass on to the weather." Brilliant.
- TomAnthony 5y agoThe negative test result: https://pcr.euprava.gov.rs/validate.php?cqcode=1640187792DOH1rb5UHzHutVMKM8TZoXqZZfWoED2JaOoX5mfaeeZODIjRBn https://pcr.euprava.gov.rs/validate.php?cqcode=1640187792DOH... The positive test result: https://pcr.euprava.gov.rs/validate.php?cqcode=1640524880jk8GTmMJnQCO03nyzch9GPlevVO4rkO3Y!Ognqrxnz34PYV$Rm https://pcr.euprava.gov.rs/validate.php?cqcode=1640524880jk8...
- mijotz 5y ago
- kleton 5y ago'Цовид-19' has to be one of the laziest transliterations I've ever seen. Coronavirus is spelled with an initial К in every Cyrillic-using language I'm aware of, not a Ц (ts) sound in English. It's basically a keyboard IME transliteration, since in Serbian, "c" would be the Roman equivalent of "ц".
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- disabled 5y agoYep, Serbo-Croatian (technically Bosnian-Montenegrian-Croatian-Serbian) "K" for "koronavirus". The only difference between languages is Latin versus Cyrillic. Croatia, for example has its official coronavirus webpage as https://koronavirus.hr https://koronavirus.hr
- bnt 5y agoWell, we read C as K, and most people spell English as they pronounce it, hence koronavirus :-)
- ithkuil 5y ago> The only difference between languages is Latin versus Cyrillic. "a language is a dialect with an army and a navy" There are definitely more differences between the lexicon and grammar of those languages apart from the alphabet they are written with. Not very big differences, mind you. But ignoring them altogether or making them bigger than what they are enters the realm of politics. Anyway, the english wikipedia article does a decent job capturing a few key differences in the dialect continuum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_standard_Bosnian,_Croatian,_Montenegrin_and_Serbian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_standard_Bosnian...
- indiantinker 5y agoThread in English : https://twitter.com/zerforschung/status/1480924205352996870?s=20 https://twitter.com/zerforschung/status/1480924205352996870?...
- alkonaut 5y agoWhy does Australia even have a loophole that allows PCR tests instead of vaccination, without also requiring that the person can't be vaccinated? You'd wish the tournament could have been clearer here and just said that all athletes should be fully vaccinated, regardless of what any authorities say. It's PR after all, and the PR of an antivaxer playing is much much worse than the PR of Novak missing the tournament.
- hugh-avherald 5y agoIt's not testing positive per se that is the exemption, it's if you have a medical contraindication to the vaccine. The argument is that recent infection is a medical contraindication, which the tournament organizer accepted but the feds have not.
- alkonaut 5y agoI mean the sensible position would be that a contraindication (allergy against vaccine) and recent infection should be the alternative to vaccination. And obviously an athlete would need to fulfill the requirement of both entry to to country and to the tournament.
- hugh-avherald 5y agoThat doesn't make much sense to me: it seems to require a person who has an allergy to the vaccine to also get infected. At any rate, the sensible course of action would have been to allow only permanent, approved medical contraindications to be grounds for exemption. Temporary contraindications (like recent vaccination/infection) would simply invoke an apology and a wish they get better soon.
- alkonaut 5y agoFair point. But even so I’m concerned that even trusting “note from random doctor” is far too relaxed. Requiring a medical exemption issued in Australia or by a doctor approved by Australian authorites seems much more secure.
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- qayxc 5y agoPlenty of honest people care. Especially Australian natives abroad who weren't able to see their families for months due to travel restrictions. People like Australian snooker player Neil Robertson who was in tears last year when his wife was able to get his father to fly to the UK to see him for the first time in over a year.
- jokethrowaway 5y agoThey should complain to their useless governments, not to a tennis player who gamed the system.
- User23 5y agoIn the USA at least complaining to our useless government has virtually no effect whatsoever for the typical citizen[1]: Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence. Which makes me wonder what exactly the talking heads on the tv mean when they talk about "our Democracy," given that we the People of the USA observably have no real democratic input. So who is being referred to with the first person plural pronoun? It's certainly not the vast majority of the citizenry. I would be surprised if a different result obtains in Australia. [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746 https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746 (2014)
- mdoms 5y agoHe didn't "game" the system, he cheated the system and fabricated medical documents.
- frakkingcylons 5y agoThey have this thread in a blog post in English: https://zerforschung.org/posts/djokovic-pcr-test-en/ https://zerforschung.org/posts/djokovic-pcr-test-en/ Suggest changing the link to that.
- AnonCoward4 5y agoI find it really irritating to see medical test results online for everyone to see.
- giarc 5y agoIt's only available since Djokovic provided the URL.... and lied about the dates it seems.
- ls15 5y ago> URL That leads to a page that anyone can see
- zo1 5y agoThat's a feature if you ask me.
- ls15 5y agoMaybe, but it also is an unprecedented privacy invasion at mass scale. Medical data used to be protected private information. At least in my country. Now everyone and their grandmother is entitled to be informed about personal medical details. It leaves a bitter taste.
- sudosysgen 5y agoBut only if you decide to give them access. By default no one except you and the professionals who work in testing have access. Also positive test information for infectious diseases can always be expected to be disseminated.
- ls15 5y agoHow can you use the certificates without giving people access. Why aren't these people authenticated before they can access the data, so it can be traced back? Which measures are implemented in order to protect the data from abuse? I have a vaccine cert that works like this. How do I know that none of the countless people who had access to that by now did not leak the data into some ad tech database or are using it for other nefarious purposes?
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- bellyfullofbac 5y agoHe's turning to the Donald Trump of the tennis world. No matter how cunty his behavior is, he'll have his supporters (god bless nationalism, one of the more obnoxious forms of tribalism). And now with the whole shitstorm he'll even gain the support of the anti-science antivax crowd. Like Trump and to some extent Obama, he's become the subject of a cult of personality. He can never do wrong in their eyes. Just to protect my ego when this is downvoted and flagged to death: watch this comment get downvoted, because even HN has too many such numbnuts.
- User23 5y agoI downvoted you for vile language and violating the guidelines. I imagine so did the others.
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- dang 5y agoYour comment was correctly flagged because it broke numerous site guidelines. Please don't post like this to HN again. In particular: please don't post in the flamewar style, please don't use the site for ideological battle, and please drop the name-calling. Also, note this one, since you're breaking it badly: "Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community." If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it. Edit: actually, you've been breaking the site guidelines so frequently that I've banned this account until we get some indication that you actually want to use HN as intended. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future.
- renaudg 5y agoThread as a blog post, in English : https://zerforschung.org/posts/djokovic-pcr-test-en/ https://zerforschung.org/posts/djokovic-pcr-test-en/
- tru342 5y agoNice finding. If he's capable of counting days, he can't play the innocent in this case.
- marbu 5y agoZerforschung also provides English version on their webpage: https://zerforschung.org/posts/djokovic-pcr-test-en/ https://zerforschung.org/posts/djokovic-pcr-test-en/
- keyme 5y ago
- atomflunder 5y ago„Whenever I think a country has rules that are tyranny it is my duty to go there“ is a weird take
- seanalltogether 5y agohttps://twitter.com/blokovi/status/1480945535620108296 https://twitter.com/blokovi/status/1480945535620108296 Apparently the qr code (and related timestamps) are generated when the result document is downloaded, not when the test is performed. Der Spiegel should have confirmed their theory with other serbians who have access to test results.
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- occamschainsaw 5y agoNo it recalled one specific test that had been granted emergency authorisation. There are now better tests that can also detect influenza in addition to covid. The older tests could only detect covid. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cdc-recall-pcr-covid-19-tests-failed-review/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cdc-recall-pcr-covid-19-te...
- humanistbot 5y agoYou are very much wrong: "Our rating: False Based on our research, we rate FALSE the claim that the CDC withdrew the use of its PCR test and admitted it can't distinguish between the flu and COVID-19. The CDC is withdrawing the test, but it has nothing to do with the flu. The agency-created PCR test simply isn't needed because hundreds of tests from private companies have addressed this need and been approved by the FDA. The CDC test properly showed positive results only for COVID-19; a person with the flu could not test positive for COVID-19 using the CDC test, experts say." https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/12/30/fact-check-cdcs-pcr-test-withdrawn-after-dec-31/9053100002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/12/30/fac...
- drno123 5y agoThe real story is that in Australia, despite extremely strict rules and measures, Covid is spreading like crazy.
- throwaway788 5y agoNSW removed all restrictions right before Omicron. They had zero of these so called “extremely strict rules” in place for the last month or so. The premier only changed tact when it became obvious that hospitals would be overwhelmed (back to day one of the pandemic).
- isubasinghe 5y agoWe don't have any restrictions now. We went from 100 to 0 and its spreading. I don't think there was even any density rules in my state, the nightclubs were packed on the 31st. Everyone I know who went clubbing on the 31st did end up with covid as well.
- Handytinge 5y agoWhen Australia had strict rules and measures, it did not. Since removing these rules, it has. Draw your own conclusions from that however you like.
- perakojotgenije 5y ago"Absolutely wrong. Timestamp is the time of pdf download. Everytime you repeat the process timestamp will change. Difference in confirmation code is because he used 2 different state labs on 16th and 22nd. Very poor analysis, I have to conclude."[1] "You need to understand that these papers are not fakes. Both tests, database records as well as pdf certificates are 100% legit. He and his family have enough influence in state institutions to organize 100% original PCR certificate but with false positive result."[2] "I have now checked your theory with my PCR test from October 1st. I have downloaded it now from http://e-zdravlje.gov.rs http://e-zdravlje.gov.rs, scan QR code and timestamp from URL is 1641917096 (Tue Jan 11 2022 16:04:56 GMT). So timestamp in URL is not when test is done, but when test is downloaded"[3] [1]https://twitter.com/CharlieWafflees/status/1480956879324995597 https://twitter.com/CharlieWafflees/status/14809568793249955... [2]https://twitter.com/CharlieWafflees/status/1480958864761700364 https://twitter.com/CharlieWafflees/status/14809588647617003... [3]https://twitter.com/blokovi/status/1480938239515148297 https://twitter.com/blokovi/status/1480938239515148297
- samwillis 5y agoI believe the “confirmation code” that’s higher for 16th than the 22nd test is still suspicious though. 16th: 7371999-259039 22nd: 7320919-259039 Does anyone have an explanation of how that code works. Could it have been related to a manufacturing batch of tests that’s been used out of order? Those of you here with test results how does that code relate to your testing date?
- nikcub 5y agoI wouldn't have bet a public accusation of this magnitude on those auto-incrementing ID's. There's a possibility the earlier positive test was conducted privately and was only registered with the government at a later date when he knew it would be required for visa purposes.
- saberdancer 5y agoThe name of the institution that conducted the test is on the test result. It's a different one but I don't know if they would constitute private or public and how it works in Serbia.
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- dandanua 5y agoIt looks like Novax Djokovid decided to play Pennis at the Australian court.
- vjust 5y agoWith Djokovich, nothing seems straightforward. This pales in front of A-A-ron.
- bondolo 5y ago"the whole world is talking about the test certificates of a tennis player right now" No, I don't give a shit about any tennis players and am tired of celebrity and sports activities being "news". Very few people actually do care, let those people read/watch niche media sources if they want to do so but don't make it part of the mainstream news. I would be perfectly fine if I never heard another tennis (or golf, or hockey, or football) story in my life. If a story affects nobody or very few people and has no advisory or actionable element then it doesn't deserve to be part of international "news".
- desireco42 5y agoLook Nadal also broke the rules, he had Covid on 20-th and entered 31 December, and he was supposed to quarantine for 14 days, per Australian law and rules. This was never about the law and rules, it is just politicians wanted to make a show. I think it is embarrassment for whole Australia how the whole thing played out.
- omegabravo 5y agoI checked the rules and they're more complicated than you give credit. If he had a negative test, he was allowed to travel. The way it played out was poor, and few are impressed. We're still yet to find out fully what happened behind the scenes. A lot of misinformation is circulating. https://www.health.gov.au/health-alerts/covid-19/international-travel/inbound https://www.health.gov.au/health-alerts/covid-19/internation...
- Handytinge 5y agoThat's not at all true. In fact from your link: > It is important to note that previous infection with COVID-19 is not considered a medical contraindication for COVID-19 vaccination. One of the main issues here is that ATAGI told TA that previous infection does not constitute containdication, and that Novak was not told this by TA.
- iamsaitam 5y ago"If everyone who is so concerned about Đoković these days - including the media, Australia, Balkans & Đoković himself - was so much concerned by the torture of #Assange & refugees across the world, perhaps we would have something called freedom today." by Srećko Horvat (https://twitter.com/HorvatSrecko/status/1480597836542660613 https://twitter.com/HorvatSrecko/status/1480597836542660613)
- isaacremuant 5y agoActually. Those of us who fight for Assange and freedom of journalism fight for freedom from Draconian covid policies as well. Authoritians are the ones who want censorship, no dissent and emergency powers that override human rights and informed consent.
- brokenmachine 5y agoYou're conflating separate things. I believe in personal freedom, but the limits of that are when it impacts on others personal freedom. If someone dies of covid in hospital, they occupy a bed for about a month before dying. A hospital has limited capacity. In my country, Australia, we have public health so everyone pays for that hospital capacity. Vaccination reduces a persons risk of severe disease by 90%. I got vaccinated to prevent myself and my family getting sick, and a nice side effect of that is that it also helps hospitals from running out of capacity, because I'm very unlikely to go to hospital should I be infected with covid. It's insanely selfish and stupid to not get vaccinated. I also think Assange should have been freed long ago, and I want journalistic freedom because the truth is the most important thing we have.
- isaacremuant 5y agoNo. I'm not. Your thoughts to vulnerate bodily autonomy for an alleged greater good are egregious. Authoritarian and ignoring the Nuremberg Code. Your hospital bed propaganda is just that. Part of the push to blame sectors of the population who don't comply with the lockdowns, masks, vaccine mandates, you name it. An honest strategy was never assessed. Your country, Australia, just banned Novak for his thoughts. Not for any rule breaking. Not for any health reason. Australia and much of its population are being absolutely discriminatory and ready to commit crimes against the humanity of others under the pretense of "the greater good". You overplay the dangers of covid, lie about transmission and beds, prevent early treatment, deny human rights, prevent discussion of science, ignore or censor side effects. And then you call people stupid and selfish for not making the same decision you did? You're a horrible person. A truly disgusting one, like so many. I'm not surprised considering the country you live in, but it's your fault if you fall for hateful propaganda. You're not for truth. You're for harming people who don't follow your politics.
- saberdancer 5y agoSomeone plotted test result IDs and times and the outlier is Djokovic's positive test - https://twitter.com/msuvakov/status/1481018537368035330 https://twitter.com/msuvakov/status/1481018537368035330 From the whole timeline, it would look to me as someone created a later test result that they backdated for him to be able to apply for a Visa. This would explain why Djokovic was out in public at the time he was apparently positive (I doubt he would have public appearances after a day after a positive test) and it would explain the test result ID discrepancy. It could also explain why the positive test result was generated on 26th and the negative one on 22nd.
- msuvakov 5y agoUpdated plot (29 test data from volontiers) is available here: https://twitter.com/msuvakov/status/1481033480901431297 https://twitter.com/msuvakov/status/1481033480901431297 Only outlier is Djokovic's positive test. It perfectly fits to 26. December, the same date timestamp was created.
- saberdancer 5y agoThank you. I'd say that is very convincing, especially with him walking about on 16, 17th and 18th. When scanning a QR code, is the date visible anywhere on the page? I am trying to guess whether someone just edited a PDF with a different date (might explain why they chose 16.12 - you need to change a single number). Alternative would require someone back dating a test in the system. In any case, not a good look for Djokovic.
- msuvakov 5y agoNo, that is the weak point of this system. Anyone can change date in pdf and no one can check that except Serbian authorities. The only limit for date is one year after test because verification system (qr code link) is set not to validate older tests.
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- raegen 5y agoSkipping the part where I discuss my general doubt of intellectual capabilities of the fellow commenters here. - Datum uzorkovanja (Date of sampling): 22.12.2021 14:12:10 - Datum izdavanja rezultata (Date of issuance of results): 22.12.2021 16:15:49 => I will ignore the time needed to get the actual swabs to the laboratory and do the necessary paperwork etc and round this to ~2 hours of time available for testing. - Vrsta analize i proizvodjac testa (Type of analysis and test manufacturer): Real Time PCR test-SARS-CoV-2, , Sansure Biotech INC; Hunan Province See, unless my fellow countrymen have developed a way to do PCR tests 5 times faster than the fastest tests available in the (rest) of the world, this test in itself is a joke. This is the reason PCR testing: costs, is usually indicated by symptoms already present/positive antigen test. And before you ask: but what about the positive test, it was done under your suggested 10h too? The positive test results actually have the exact test kit specified (https://www.cepheid.com/en/tests/Critical-Infectious-Disease https://www.cepheid.com/en/tests/Critical-Infectious-Disease...) and it's definitely not PCR. Furthermore, that company doesn't even manufacture PCR tests/systems. Their focus is on rapid pathogen detection systems. The negative test on the other hand, doesn't specify the test kit used at all, only the manufacturer. That manufacturer though, not only produces PCR tests/systems, but most of the covid-related products are PCR-oriented, along with a few rapid/antigen solutions. (https://www.sansureglobal.com/products-and-solutions/covid-1 https://www.sansureglobal.com/products-and-solutions/covid-1...) Note: on their product details pages you will see mentions of 60 minute amplification time. That might indeed be true, but amplification is, albeit long, just one step of a multi-step process (extraction, preparation, amplification, evaluation). You're welcome. Take care