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Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar
- coding123 5y agoThis seems plausible: People at bars are single. Track their vehicle to their house / apt. Later, know when vehicle is not at house (hence no one is home - remember - single person). Rob house.
- weaksauce 5y ago> Rob house that's not the only possible outcome here
- meepmorp 5y agoit's not even the worst one i thought of
- rocqua 5y agoIt is a much more likely and sensible (for the bad guy) outcome though. There are so many more people out there that want to rob someone than want to rape someone. Especially when the target is a stranger.
- weaksauce 5y ago> much more likely and sensible (for the bad guy) outcome though. I don't know. it could be but bad guys aren't exactly known for being sensible.
- rocqua 5y ago"Crime is not actually caused by evil. Crime is caused by systemic disenfranchisement and poverty and lack of access to job opportunities." Which is to say that most crime is about money.
- newhotelowner 5y agohttps://www.macrumors.com/2021/12/03/airtag-linked-to-car-thefts/ https://www.macrumors.com/2021/12/03/airtag-linked-to-car-th...
- endisneigh 5y agoAre people against the idea of GPS trackers? Lightbug uses GPS and has a 6 year battery with a size smaller than a credit card. Ultimately there's no way to put the cat in the bag. I'd argue it's not possible for a tracker to exist that cannot be used for bad purposes.
- ghaff 5y agoArguably AirTags raised the awareness that you can pretty trivially plant a tracker on someone's bag or car. But given that the technology exists, I'm not sure what everyone outraged expects to happen. Being able to track things and people (with their permission of course) is actually genuinely useful. So it's not reasonable (and of course ultimately unworkable with respect to nefarious purposes) to block this technology.
- bengale 5y agoIt’s about the logo on the device. It drives clicks and ad impressions when you write about apple so people are influenced to feel more outrage about them.
- exhilaration 5y agoWow! This is a Hollywood-level tracker. Smaller than a car keyfob Absolutely tiny at just 56 x 37 x 12.9mm, it can fit almost anywhere Plus it weighs almost nothing! (35g) And the battery lasts a month. https://thelightbug.com/ https://thelightbug.com/
- SixDouble5321 5y agoWoman: has something bad happen to her. Everyone else: gaslight her to infinity or straight up call her a liar. Not saying it did or didn't happen, but this thread is super toxic.
- atom_arranger 5y agoIf it becomes widely known that you won't be believed if you destroy all the evidence of something maybe people will do otherwise in the future.
- rexreed 5y agoLooks like the Twitter account is now restricted and the tweets themselves are gone? As the kids say, very "sus".
- donkarma 5y agothis is hardly a new attack when GPS trackers existed before
- reed1234 5y agoAnd AirTags even alert those (iPhone users) being tracked so they are even less practical
- JohnTHaller 5y agoExcept for the folks who aren't iPhone users, which is the majority of people.
- Ekaros 5y agoMaybe some sort of audible alarm could be in order. Let say every 1-4h hours.
- watermelon0 5y ago> AirTags will beep if they are away from their owner's iPhone - at a random time between eight and 24 hours However, it's possible to damage the speaker, so it becomes silent, without damaging the AirTag itself.
- ZekeSulastin 5y agoThey actually do start an audible alarm after being separated from their owner, starting sometime between 8 and 24h after separation. I don’t know the interval though.
- oneplane 5y agoThat's not great if someone steals your backpack and finds out you're tracking it.
- alwillis 5y agoApple released an app for Android users to alert them if an AirTag is “following” them: https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/android-users-get-this-apple-app-if-you-dont-want-airtags-tracking-you/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/android-users-get-this-appl...
- ahepp 5y agoSurely Apple can use information from their Find My account to figure out who the AirTag was registered to. Even if the tag has been destroyed. That should be trivially easy, right?
- olliej 5y agoNo, AirTags/the find my network are designed to make it impossible for apple to track anything about a device on the network. If you actually provide the AirTag to police, then they can get the serial number, from which they can get the associated account. Assuming that whomever put the AirTags their used their own actual account.
- somehowadev 5y agoI believe that's where the advice to hand an AirTag to the authorities come from? From here: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT212227 https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT212227
- topochico3 5y agoI’m not convinced this is a priority for police. Air tags seem to be a net negative for all.
- lukeschlather 5y agoI would attempt to file a restraining order against the owner of the tag, that would force the police to act.
- otterley 5y agoPlease don't discourage people from seeking assistance from law enforcement when their personal safety is at risk.
- gutitout 5y agoYou may not live in a large American city. It’s a bad place to rely on the cops in my experience.
- raldi 5y agoThe worst part of this is, if you don’t have an iPhone, you’ll never know if you’re being tracked. Edit: Yes, I know there’s an app. Do you think more than 1% of victims will have it installed?
- educaysean 5y agoIf you already knew that there was an app out there, maybe don't use absolutist sounding phrases like "they'll never know" just to come back and make defensive edits about how nobody out there knows about its existence when you yourself obviously knew about it.
- estaseuropano 5y agoYes, i, android user, have to install an Apple app to know I'm being tracked by their devices. I, average android user, also do this proactively because I know some creep/car thief/angry customer/... might want to track me or my wife. Nothing to see here, all totally normal and expected and I should be grateful that there is an app to defend myself proactively against such tracking. I should also do the same for Microsoft, Huawei, Samsung, Sony, ... tracking tags. If that eats my phone battery this is just a small price to pay to assure my daughter won't be kidnapped or my house broken in as the attacker conveniently knew I wasn't home. May I suggest we also all proactively wear tinfoil helmets to ensure Tesla's 'level 5 self-driving cars' don't kill us? You know, totally not the responsibility of the manufacturer to make sure their products are safe for all.
- edot 5y agoApple made an Android app for this.
- koziserek 5y agoIs it me, or this AirTag did not have its battery connected? We see this thin paper/plastic separator on the photo. Moreover, don’t these alarms start after some hours after being away from the owner?
- newhotelowner 5y agoApple AirTag Linked to Increasing Number of Car Thefts, Canadian Police Report - https://nypost.com/2021/12/07/carjackers-are-using-this-new-apple-product-to-steal-vehicles/ https://nypost.com/2021/12/07/carjackers-are-using-this-new-...
- bittercynic 5y agoWhy does the thief bother to track your car back to your house to steal later? Why not just drive around the residential areas where the cars are parked and just choose one at the time you want to do the theft?
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- luafox 5y agoSo that the thief can learn your schedule and when you're home or using the car and can plan in advance to avoid being caught. Among other things, information about the exact location of an expensive vehicle over multiple days is very valuable information when you're trying to steal said vehicle.
- largbae 5y agoNot a car thief but it's an interesting question. Maybe given the VIN and a few hours/days you can lookup and make a correct key for that type of car. So the tag is placed when the VIN is collected and the theft is smooth with a valid key.
- contidrift 5y agoIn Amsterdam I once met an Eastern European career criminal who followed people driving home after work hours and waited for them to get into the shower. Then he'd pick their front door lock and take the keys. Unrelated, he also had a room in his apartment set up to grow weed, with some serious climate control and artificial lighting. He was dealing this pot. He had no papers or permit to stay... what crazy folk.
- notjustanymike 5y agoI suspect this has a lot to do with apple raising awareness of tracking capabilities. I'd love to know if other forms of this attack increase as a result.
- Underphil 5y agoWhen tweets or news articles like this get popular, I can't help thinking this has a Streisand effect. Crazy stalker people who didn't know they could do this now know they can.
- KennyBlanken 5y ago> this morning while I was asleep I had someone close to me check my car and they found it stuck on the underside of my front passenger wheel well. I wish he took pics before he threw it away but it looks like this:' Didn't take pictures? Didn't leave it where it was and call police? Didn't happen. Made up for attention. Here's more proof it was fake as hell: > thanks for all the support everyone. Pleading faceSunflower I’m fine and doing okay! Muting that thread, got super overwhelming really quickly and even more weird people in my DMs. Face with rolling eyes I have absolutely nothing to promote but if I have any updates I’ll let you all know!
- hatenberg 5y agoI'd suspect the person who eagerly discarded the evidende
- jonpurdy 5y agoSo I and my wife both have AirTags. Every time we take a walk together, we both get notifications that there's an unknown AirTag with us (each others'). You can pause these notifications for just one day, which means we get notified every single day. Does anyone know how to disable this for specific known AirTags?
- tshaddox 5y agoAre your Apple accounts in a Family Sharing group? I have no idea if that would affect this feature, but my wife and I also have AirTags on our keys and we travel together plenty and have never received this notification.
- ericcholis 5y agoSame. I just wish you could transfer ownership of a tag between family members.
- ceejayoz 5y agoYou can. Disconnect it from one person's iCloud, connect it to the other. We did it with our cat's AirTag when I got a newer iPhone, so we could use the more accurate location. I do wish there was a share feature, though.
- simondotau 5y agoThe lack of integration with family sharing has made AirTags mostly useless for me.
- ceejayoz 5y agoIt’s a genuinely baffling omission.
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- kemayo 5y agoThis is news just because it's an Apple device being used for something that was already trivially possible. GPS trackers designed to be magnet-attached to a car which report their location via cell signal cost ~$20 on Amazon. You then tend to need to pay for either a SIM card or a subscription to the device maker's service -- bringing you up to about the cost of an AirTag. These are much harder to detect, as you might imagine. The Apple device does try to make itself less useful for abusive purposes. Nearby iPhones will notify you if there's an AirTag following you. Apple released an Android app to scan for them (manually -- it'd probably be nice if they released something that did the same passive scanning as iPhones get, but there's battery trade-offs there, and obviously most people won't have that app). AirTags will also beep if they're separated from their owner. In fact, this is news we're hearing about because of the steps Apple took to make it harder to use these devices for bad purposes. The tweet author got a warning about the device following them. It's tricky to make something that lets you find where you dropped your keys while walking the dog that can't also be used for nefarious purposes.
- raydev 5y ago> This is news just because it's an Apple device being used for something that was already trivially possible. > GPS trackers designed to be magnet-attached to a car which report their location via cell signal cost ~$20 on Amazon. You then tend to need to pay for either a SIM card or a subscription to the device maker's service -- bringing you up to about the cost of an AirTag. So you're saying Apple made it even more trivially possible. Not only does it cost the same, it now requires less effort.
- kemayo 5y agoI'm saying anyone who wanted to do this already could, and Apple's version is worse at being abusive than what they could already do. Sticking trackers onto the cars of people parked near bars isn't really a thing you do on a whim.
- madeofpalk 5y agoIn one way. In another way, the only way the tweet author knew was because Apple alerted them to the fact that they were being tracked. Other trackers would not do that. It seems Apple actively put effort into thwarting this kind of use.
- everyone 5y agoWell thank goodness blessed Apple are so virtuous and privacy focused, otherwise this would be a real shit-show.
- olliej 5y ago? By design AirTags don't provide any information that is useable by apple
- questiondev 5y agoit might have been law enforcement. they might be using this to track potential drunk drivers (i am not saying you were drunk driving or anything) but i do know there was a few articles on it this year, here is one i found https://www.macrumors.com/2021/07/19/police-find-unexpected-use-for-airtags/ https://www.macrumors.com/2021/07/19/police-find-unexpected-... or it could be worse and you could have a unhinged stalker on your hands. both are intrusive. but it’s hard to say, is there a way to find out the owner or look at log files to see what op or which provider is accessing the location details of a tag? i know about these tags but i’ve never used one before so understanding is fairly fresh
- authed 5y agoI just installed AirGuard to help prevent this attack... It is available on F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.seemoo.at_tracking_detection/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.seemoo.at_tracking_detect.... Hope it works as advertised... time will tell.
- CPLX 5y agoAs someone who has been around message boards and forums since the late 90’s one thing that has really surprised me is the degree to which people have started taking first person online stories seriously. Reddit of course is full of them, as is Twitter and lots of other places. Meanwhile the incentives to successfully tell a just-so story that goes viral have never been higher. Youtube money, GoFundme, influencer opportunities, etc. The post we are all responding to is super low effort, not even a photo, and not even a first person account. Her “friend” found an AirTag and threw it away. Meanwhile there’s a GoFundme link right on the profile. Just saying.
- ghaff 5y agoWhile the story is of course possible, there are sufficient red flags I'm inclined to think it's not likely.
- irthomasthomas 5y agoI stopped when I read that. Terrified woman stays with friend after being alerted to a tracking device on her car. While she sleeps, the friend searches the car and discards a tracking device. Right. And everyone else here treating it like that is fine.
- SixDouble5321 5y agoOk, but it was fully funded months ago.
- kitcar 5y agoIn Canada Airtags are used for car theft https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/apple-tracking-devices-being-used-in-thefts-of-high-end-cars-in-york-region-police-1.5690819 https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/apple-tracking-devices-being-used...
- gorner 5y agoPolice are claiming they are, but have provided very limited evidence this is actually happening. https://twitter.com/neilcybart/status/1472634032827645962 https://twitter.com/neilcybart/status/1472634032827645962
- mthoms 5y agoWhat would police investigators possibly have to gain from making this up? It’s not even an outlandish claim. Knowing the technology and the region this force covers it sounds perfectly reasonable to me that a least some thieves are experimenting with this technique. Come on. Not everything is a conspiracy.
- awinter-py 5y agois this part right? > If a foreign AirTag is around ANY Apple device that’s connected to a network, a nefarious AirTag owner will know its location! the airtag is phoning home over all apple hardware, whether or not it belongs to the owner of the tag?
- kshacker 5y agoBasically that is as advertised. The feature set definition of airtag = "tracking the airtag" and this requires a phone home which is done by using any iPhone (or is is any apple) device.
- brendoelfrendo 5y agoCorrect, this is how Apple’s “find my” network works. Devices that don’t have their own GPS can still be on the network because they piggy-back off of nearby Apple devices. Apple devices do notify users if there’s an unknown AirTag following them around.
- madeofpalk 5y agoIt works like Tile and other previous Bluetooth trackers - it relies on a network of devices that can pick up the signal from the tracker and phone it back to the owner/Apple to know the location.
- newaccount74 5y agoWith the major difference that taking part in the Tile network is opt-in (you have to install an app) while taking part in Apple's Find My network is forced on iOS users (there is a way to opt-out, but 99.9% of iOS users are unaware of it).
- awinter-py 5y agofun antitrust case when tile decides they want their plugin to ship with the OS too
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- newaccount74 5y agoIt's baffling how Apple on the one hand claims that user privacy is the most important thing to them, but on the other hand they built an anonymous tracking network that can be abused for many nefarious purposes, and everyone who has an iPhone was made a part of the network whether they like it or not. There are so many things that are questionable about Airtags. Another way to abuse it would be for example, you could place an Airtag somewhere on an iPhone users driveway, and use it to determine when they arrive home by checking for pings. The victim won't even see a notification, since the Airtag is stationary. Preventing attacks like this would require the victim to know where to opt-out of Apple's tracking network, a setting that Apple hid by giving it a confusing name ("Network & Wireless") and shows a warning that your phone won't work properly anymore if you try to turn it off. (Also, turning that setting off presumably also turns off the Airtag warning? So you are trading one risk against another?)
- josho 5y agoHow is this is any way an anonymous tracker? The police could get a subpoena for Apple to divulge the iCloud account, credit card, and phone number of the owner of this AirTag. Using air tags to conduct illegal activity is stupid.
- newaccount74 5y agoHuh, right, with all the talk about the privacy preserving location sharing, I missed that Airtags have a serial number that Apple can look up. However, my main criticism (that Apple customers were not asked whether they want to participate in a network that may indirectly reveal their location) still stands.
- olliej 5y agoThe find my network is designed so that it does not directly or indirectly reveal location of the primary device or any intermediaries to apple
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- emeraldd 5y agoReading that, it sounds like a situation to call/drive to/or otherwise get the attention of the police. Attaching a tracking device to your vehicle is a significant indication of malicious intent. It's a potentially life threatening situation and should be treated as such.
- pxtail 5y agoSounds nice but how it would be possible to prove that owner of the device attached it to vehicle? You would need to have video recording with clearly identifiable person, otherwise owner can simply say that she lost AirTag and someone did a dumb joke and attached it to the car.
- toss1 5y agoBetween reports of AirTags being used to enable auto theft and stalk targets, it is pretty obviously a very handy criminal tool. Apple definitely needs to do something about this for both ethical and reputational reasons. the beeping if separated from owner after 8-24hrs is a bit helpful, but likely not noticeable if attached to the outside of a car. This is also a pretty big window in which to pull off your crime. I'd suggest that all tracking come with logging of the original owner's Apple device and it's location. The handy general use case would be to find your phone with an airtag (e.g., on your keys) and another phone (e.g., friend in the group). The obvious deterrent to criminals is that their target and the police will have their device ID and location. They might still get away with it, but would need effectively a burner Apple phone & location history separate from their real device. Other ideas?
- throwaway39203 5y agoI think this reverse tracking would also raise concerns - keys with airtag attached are lost, thief (perhaps opportunist) can find the home/car they belong to - stalker types can steal an airtag from a water bottle, handbag, or whatever, and find the owner's home Not an iPhone user but AFAIK the lost phone scenario was already covered with even pre-airtag "Find my..." since you could log into iCloud web interface on any other device and use that
- toss1 5y agoYup, good points. Perhaps it is just announced that it is logged and subject to police search. IDK, just trying to think of ideas for a tough situation, but when a primary use case becomes enabling property and violent sex crimes ... Heck, I was earlier wishing for tags like this that worked better, more trackable and a lot smaller for a variety of uses, including embedding in products. Which would make them all better crime tools. Ugh. Sociopaths really do ruin it for everyone.
- MarkSweep 5y agoOn the Apple help site, it says you can disable an AirTag that is following you: > To disable the AirTag and stop sharing your location, tap Instructions to Disable AirTag and follow the onscreen steps. If I’m understanding this correctly, this means you can defeat this type of stalking easily. On the other hand, this makes AirTags less useful for tracking stolen items, as presumably the thief will disable it. https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT212227 https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT212227
- evgen 5y agoOr if the thief has an iPhone they will be notified that the AirTag is tracking them. This is not an anti-theft device and anyone who thinks so will be disappointed. It is a device for finding your own stuff that you have misplaced or forgotten about.
- pengaru 5y agoCan someone just put any random AirTag on someone's car and have it trigger alerts on nearby iphones? Does one have to do something to activate it first? Curious if all one needs to do is get one and stick it on a randos car to cause psychological distress without even pairing with a phone or otherwise registering/activating the thing.
- ghaff 5y agoI'm pretty sure it needs to be activated to an Apple account. But seriously, people here way overthink things. If a random sicko wants to cause someone psychological distress there are a million ways that they can unfortunately do so that don't involve elaborate technology.
- pengaru 5y ago> If a random sicko wants to cause someone psychological distress there are a million ways that they can unfortunately do so that don't involve elaborate technology This doesn't strike me as elaborate at all. The fact is the largest generation living today is more engaged with the world via their smartphones than their physical surroundings. AirTags seem uniquely well suited to that reality, with Apple delivering notifications on the attackers' behalf and all.
- ghaff 5y agoIt strikes me as dependent on the person being griefed being in the Apple ecosystem and the person doing the griefing using a device that is at least potentially tied to their IRL identity. Not saying it's not possible but seems at least an edge case.
- rootusrootus 5y agoAnd if they want to track, that ability was already available, for the same price as an AirTag, and without the annoying habit beeping loudly or notifying the victim that they are being tracked.
- InTheArena 5y agoThe interesting thing is that I have seen multiple reports of this ( think this is is the third), but in every case, they have destroyed it, lost it, or thrown it away before hand - not given it to the police. Apple can't tell who the devices is from signals in the wild, but they can figure out who it is if someone gives them the physical device. (Apple tracks the serial number of the device, and from what I understand, can provide purchaser/activator information based on the serial number).
- mortenjorck 5y agoI have a feeling the interaction with the police in a lot of jurisdictions would go something like: “This person at this address tried to track me without my consent! Here’s the documentation from Apple!” “Ma’am, has the person at this address murdered you?” “No.” “I’m afraid there’s nothing we can do right now. If this person does murder you, please call 911 immediately.”
- xyst 5y agoAt the very least, a report should be made. If something does happen, at least there's a paper trail and they would be highest on the list of suspects. Could be used as evidence to get a restraining order as well. If the person does indeed get near to the victim, then the police can actually do something since they are in violation of a court order.
- marci 5y agoThat is, if you're lucky and they understand what you're talking about. You'll probably have to spend some time explaining how it works, why it is a serious issue, and then probably be dismissed.
- a10c 5y agoYou'd have to explain to the police why a device that's designed for tracking things being placed on your car is a serious issue?
- controlweather 5y agoShe faked it, in her twitter photo of the tag the plastic activation plastic is still in the device. She lied and posted a photo of an unactivated AirTag.
- higginsc 5y agoNumber of times I've had a true positive alert from Apple's new device tracking notifications: 0 Number of times I've had false positives due to intermittent connectivity issues with my airpods or from my partner using mine: over a dozen. I'm this close to disabling all of these features
- ghaff 5y agoThis is a general problem with proactive alerts related to rare events. How many "OMG, you're separated from $X" alerts am I willing to put up with for the one legitimate "You just left $X in the restaurant!" alert.
- kayodelycaon 5y agoAirTags seem to work reliably. Everything else? I had my iPad in the backpack I was wearing get left behind. Same with my AirPods. I’ve turned those things off and just put an AirTag in my backpack. That said, I already had two extra air tags since I got a four-pack instead of buying two separately.
- hankman86 5y agoWhile it’s theoretically possible that this happened, I think this particular story was made up. For a number of reasons: 1) How did the stalker know that that’s her car? She said she was on a night out. Unless she went back to her car all the time, he must have seen her arrive in it. 2) Sticking an AirTag to the inside of the front wheel well isn’t easy. There is dirt and grime there and the surfaces aren’t flat. The stalker would have had to use a very strong adhesive to make the AirTag stick while the car was moving. 3) While it’d be a smart idea to not drive home while a foreign AirTag tracks you, who is alert enough after a night out AND happens to have friends in the vicinity that you can wake up at what must have been a very late hour? 4) Her friend who found and removed the AirTag took no photo. Really?
- dpeck 5y agoNot to disagree with your overall point, but on #2 magnets work well for this and there are a lot of “hide-a-key” type things on the market that are often used in wheel wells by people who have a history of locking their keys in their car.
- hankman86 5y agoGood point, but may I add 5) AirTags are a very expensive way of stalking someone. Surely, there may be some creeps willing to put up this sort of money. But some random guy who sees her on a night out and who happens to have an AirTag with attached magnet with him? And if that was indeed the case, wouldn’t there be some pretext to this, like someone hitting on her that night and she turned him away? She doesn’t mention anything in this regard. So no, this story doesn’t line up and looks more like cheap attention grabbing at the expensive of a real problem with Apple’s AirTags.
- UncleEntity 5y agoBack in my cab driving days I would occasionally pick up women from a shelter (for medical appointments and whatnot) and some of the stories they told me about their stalker exes make a $30 investment basically nothing. The amount of effort they would put into stalking is mind blowing.
- rasz 5y ago"Of sexual abuse cases reported to law enforcement, 93% of juvenile victims knew the perpetrator: 59% were acquaintances. 34% were family members. 7% were strangers to the victim. also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquaintance_rape https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquaintance_rape >this morning while I was asleep I had someone close to me check my car and they found it stuck on the underside of my front passenger wheel well. I wish he took pics before he threw it away throw away individually identifiable piece of evidence instead of calling the police, ok
- vanusa 5y agoThrow away individually identifiable piece of evidence instead of calling the police, ok I wouldn't consider it particularly wise to assume the police will automatically be your friend, in this situation. Ask yourself who may have planted the device, after all. (I don't think law enforcement would use AirTags, actually. But I'm just saying -- on general principle).
- q1w2 5y agoVictims make poor decisions all the time. It doesn't really imply the story is false - although I happen to find this story unconvincing also.
- goblin89 5y agoTrusted figure eliminating evidence of a plot against you while you sleep (and possibly nudging you to not call the police, who knows!) sounds like a villain right out of a detective story, but it would be a very silly move to not clear in advance how AirTags work and whether the victim uses an iPhone (which can be easy even if they are not that close). Not impossible (e.g., an impulsive boyfriend or familiar admirer with control issues naively wanting to find out where she goes or purposefully scare her as part of larger big-brain ploy), but depending on her car an AirTag-assisted car theft attempt could be more likely: https://www.yrp.ca/en/Modules/News/index.aspx?newsId=167fa5b3-3583-431d-8cc0-91e49aee3bff https://www.yrp.ca/en/Modules/News/index.aspx?newsId=167fa5b...
- giords 5y agoIt was a mistake to throw away the tag. They could've used it (together with police, perhaps) to track down the offender.
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- originalvichy 5y agoHelp an ignorant person. Wouldn’t this kind of alert let a thief know that whatever they stole has an airtag attached to it? I know it’s probably not marketed as an anti-theft device, but isn’t this anti-stalking measure also a ”pro-theft” measure?
- up6w6 5y agoIt's always worth mentioning that you can create your own custom tracker device that uses the Find My network. https://github.com/seemoo-lab/openhaystack/ https://github.com/seemoo-lab/openhaystack/
- nsonha 5y agoMaybe Apple should allow anyone to locate an AirTag by sound, once it's determined that it's following that person. Edit: it already works like that, seems like Apple thought this through
- SixDouble5321 5y agoAir tags can be persuaded to emit a sound, but they can be modified to prevent it.
- nsonha 5y ago> persuaded to emit a sound please explain your choice of word, an AirTag is not a person, you don't persuade it
- grandpoobah 5y agoThe correct word is coerce. AirTags can be coerced into chanting an audible sound.
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- pharmakom 5y agoSomewhat unrelated… if you drive to the bar then you can’t drink surely?
- grandpoobah 5y agoIt's pretty easy to track your drinks and be safely under the limit for driving. In my country the rule of thumb, for men, is Two standard drinks in the first hour, and then one standard drink for every hour after that.