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"19 year olds on twitter unhappy" is a ridiculous and unnecessary angle to add to this story.

bpodgursky 5y ago
Polling Twitter for gripes is the easiest possible angle to add to a story, since the journalists are already on Twitter 14 hours a day anyway.
bondant 5y ago
Even more ridiculous when you know that the 19 year old of 2021 were 18 year old in 2020 and they could get 500 euros with the very same "pass culture". So it's really hard to see while they would be unhappy. https://web.archive.org/web/20200521225211/https://pass.culture.fr/ https://web.archive.org/web/20200521225211/https://pass.cult... Edit: in 2020 the pass was not available in the whole country.
- corobo 5y ago
  Wasn't there something going on in 2020 that closed all the cinemas and that?
  - bondant 5y ago
    After accessing the program, one has two years to spend the money, so up to 2022 for people who got it in 2020.
    - corobo 5y ago
      Ah. I wish I'd fully investigated more before commenting then, what I said was silly
lancebeet 5y ago
Why's that? 18 year olds are graduating secondary education this summer and now they have more money to spend in a society that's rapidly opening up. 19 year olds graduated last year, possibly the worst time to do so (especially given the strict lockdown in France), and they get nothing. Life obviously isn't fair but I can't help but feel for the 19 year olds.
- adventured 5y ago
  What they should have done is a $300 culture pass for the entire society to celebrate opening back up. If anybody should be open to such an idea it should be France.
  - remy_ 5y ago
    Not the same budget.
  - tomcooks 5y ago
    That's more or less what is happening in Europe as an incentive to economy, I think in Italy freelancers got about 1000 euros from the state
- boomboomsubban 5y ago
  Everyone who did not get this likely would have liked to, that's not informative criticism. That nineteen year olds had it rough last year has basically nothing to do with the article.
  - IshKebab 5y ago
    Can you not see that they only just missed out on it? I don't think any 45 year olds are going to be miffed that they didn't get it when they were 18.
    - deleted 5y ago
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    - boomboomsubban 5y ago
      Of course I can, I don't find it newsworthy.
- ummonk 5y ago
  Yeah, the 18 year olds today are way luckier than the 19 year olds today, and this culture pass seems to add insult to injury.
throwaddzuzxd 5y ago
It actually makes sense because during the covid crisis, there's been huge issues with student poverty (post high school). So giving out 300€ for 18 years old to buy video games when 1 year older students struggle hard to make ends meet is not taken well by some. A 1 time 300 bucks given to all the students with a scholarship would be way more appreciated than 300 bucks given to all the 18 years old without distinction.
- runawaybottle 5y ago
  Reminds me of the student loan forgiveness nonsense in the US now days. We’re supposed to forgive one generation’s debt, but not another’s.
  - imtringued 5y ago
    Yeah student loan forgiveness is a terrible idea. They should just be made dischargable after 10 years. I've had it with the "they will immediately discharge the debt after graduation" meme. Yes, just add a delay and let them rot on the streets if they are that cheap. If people can't repay their student loans within 10 years then it was a bad deal to begin with.
    - tomcooks 5y ago
      Hot take: public schools
      - runawaybottle 5y ago
        In what way?
  - lupire 5y ago
    Also don't forgive debt or lost opportunity incurred by people of the same generation who were more frugal and careful.
    - 5y ago
duxup 5y ago
I really wish the go to for everything hoi polloi wasn't Twitter. Twitter encourages trite, mean, and outrageous content, it's not going to have much of a variety of views that get any attention. It infects anything. I was listening to a podcast about my local sports team and they couldn't help but reference what they're 'not saying' relative to Twitter outrage ... repeatedly. And even address 'fan sentiment' purely through the looking glass of Twitter. They talk about players who 'fans don't like' and yet you go to the game and you'd think that was the most popular player based on fan reaction... Then I switch to my coding related podcast ... same thing, they address Twitter drama like it represents most coders.

Polling Twitter for gripes is the easiest possible angle to add to a story, since the journalists are already on Twitter 14 hours a day anyway.

bondant 5y ago

Even more ridiculous when you know that the 19 year old of 2021 were 18 year old in 2020 and they could get 500 euros with the very same "pass culture". So it's really hard to see while they would be unhappy. https://web.archive.org/web/20200521225211/https://pass.culture.fr/ https://web.archive.org/web/20200521225211/https://pass.cult... Edit: in 2020 the pass was not available in the whole country.

corobo 5y ago
Wasn't there something going on in 2020 that closed all the cinemas and that?
- bondant 5y ago
  After accessing the program, one has two years to spend the money, so up to 2022 for people who got it in 2020.
  - corobo 5y ago
    Ah. I wish I'd fully investigated more before commenting then, what I said was silly

lancebeet 5y ago

Why's that? 18 year olds are graduating secondary education this summer and now they have more money to spend in a society that's rapidly opening up. 19 year olds graduated last year, possibly the worst time to do so (especially given the strict lockdown in France), and they get nothing. Life obviously isn't fair but I can't help but feel for the 19 year olds.

adventured 5y ago
What they should have done is a $300 culture pass for the entire society to celebrate opening back up. If anybody should be open to such an idea it should be France.
- remy_ 5y ago
  Not the same budget.
- tomcooks 5y ago
  That's more or less what is happening in Europe as an incentive to economy, I think in Italy freelancers got about 1000 euros from the state
boomboomsubban 5y ago
Everyone who did not get this likely would have liked to, that's not informative criticism. That nineteen year olds had it rough last year has basically nothing to do with the article.
- IshKebab 5y ago
  Can you not see that they only just missed out on it? I don't think any 45 year olds are going to be miffed that they didn't get it when they were 18.
  - deleted 5y ago
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  - boomboomsubban 5y ago
    Of course I can, I don't find it newsworthy.
ummonk 5y ago
Yeah, the 18 year olds today are way luckier than the 19 year olds today, and this culture pass seems to add insult to injury.

throwaddzuzxd 5y ago

It actually makes sense because during the covid crisis, there's been huge issues with student poverty (post high school). So giving out 300€ for 18 years old to buy video games when 1 year older students struggle hard to make ends meet is not taken well by some. A 1 time 300 bucks given to all the students with a scholarship would be way more appreciated than 300 bucks given to all the 18 years old without distinction.

runawaybottle 5y ago
Reminds me of the student loan forgiveness nonsense in the US now days. We’re supposed to forgive one generation’s debt, but not another’s.
- imtringued 5y ago
  Yeah student loan forgiveness is a terrible idea. They should just be made dischargable after 10 years. I've had it with the "they will immediately discharge the debt after graduation" meme. Yes, just add a delay and let them rot on the streets if they are that cheap. If people can't repay their student loans within 10 years then it was a bad deal to begin with.
  - tomcooks 5y ago
    Hot take: public schools
    - runawaybottle 5y ago
      In what way?
- lupire 5y ago
  Also don't forgive debt or lost opportunity incurred by people of the same generation who were more frugal and careful.
  - 5y ago

duxup 5y ago

I really wish the go to for everything hoi polloi wasn't Twitter. Twitter encourages trite, mean, and outrageous content, it's not going to have much of a variety of views that get any attention. It infects anything. I was listening to a podcast about my local sports team and they couldn't help but reference what they're 'not saying' relative to Twitter outrage ... repeatedly. And even address 'fan sentiment' purely through the looking glass of Twitter. They talk about players who 'fans don't like' and yet you go to the game and you'd think that was the most popular player based on fan reaction... Then I switch to my coding related podcast ... same thing, they address Twitter drama like it represents most coders.