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Hello HN, I'm one of the developers at Sublime HQ. We're all very excited about this release. If you have any questions you'd like to ask I'll do my best to an

Hello HN, I'm one of the developers at Sublime HQ. We're all very excited about this release. If you have any questions you'd like to ask I'll do my best to answer them.

hn8788 5y ago
Congratulations on the new release though, it's been my favorite editor for years. Just a heads up, when you upgrade an existing license, the instructions say to click on Help > Enter License, but you have to remove the current license before you can enter a new one.
- breck 5y ago
  Yup! I just ran into that too. Also, it looks like I could have upgraded my existing license for $70 via going that route, instead of buying a new one for $80. (Np for me, I'm a huge fan, but for other existing users check out "Help" menu before buying a new license)
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  Thanks, we've added some instructions for that.
1123581321 5y ago
About Sublime Text says that I have a Single User License registered. Is it going to prompt me to upgrade, or am I grandfathered in some way? I bought this Sublime 3 license in Feb 2018. Just trying to understand what's going on. The app itself is great so far, especially the GPU performance.
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  Your license is still valid for all versions released before Feb 2021 (3 years after purchase). Once you update to a version released after that date you will see a "LICENSE UPGRADE REQUIRED" in the title bar. Under `Help > Upgrade License` you can then purchase an upgrade. There is also a popup prompting for an upgrade if you've entered an "expired" license anew.
ddingus 5y ago
Is there a Raspi version yet? That would make my little embedded dev station just perfect! Would migrate it all to that new Pi 400.
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  Arm64 builds are available to download just like any other version. The port was done on a RPI 4, but it's also been tested on a PinePhone and a Nintendo Switch.
  - ddingus 5y ago
    Nice. I could have checked. Has been a while. Have been just running a version. Thanks for taking the time.
FlyingSnake 5y ago
Are there any plans to open source the GUI system? It could be a hugely beneficial for a set of cross platform apps. Thanks a lot for creating this piece of software art. I’m a user since the v1 and no matter what the editor du jour is, I always fallback to ST and Vim.
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  This question has been asked a lot, so thankfully I've got an easy answer: You don't actually want to build on top of our UI toolkit. We make breaking changes all the time, there's very little documentation and no release cycle at all. This isn't a problem for us as we have in-house knowledge and can fix any breakages trivially, but you don't want every open source project to have to maintain it's own fork of a UI toolkit.
  - ChrisMarshallNY 5y ago
    I completely support this. I write a ton of open-source software, and have many published packages. Each one that I publish is a Responsibility. Like a parent that has children, the package is no longer “completely mine.” All changes and fixes are made, keeping in mind that someone may be dependent upon my work. I’ve been writing SDKs -literally- my entire career (I can link to my very first engineering project, in 1987, where I designed a hardware system, and a companion SDK). A perfectly legitimate reason for keeping code private, is that I am not willing to support it for any use, other than my own personal use.
    - jiofih 5y ago
      There is no obligation to support the code at all though. You can release it once, say it’s unsupported, and let the community pick up maintenance / forks if there’s enough interest. Otherwise, no harm done.
      - Phenix88be 5y ago
        > and let the community pick up maintenance / forks if there’s enough interest. This almost never happen, even when the interest is very high... I love open source and free software, but we should face that this point is more a fantasy than a real thing.
TeeMassive 5y ago
Vim has Vimtutor; could Sublime have its Sumblimetutor too? I've been using Sublime for years now and yet I barely use most of its "well known features" and I feel ashamed of myself. I know there are tutorials out there, but I am a chronic procrastinator and I just can't bring myself to watch them while at home.
- yesenadam 5y ago
  You could use philosopher John Perry's method. Put every activity on a To Do list, ordered by importance. Procrastination is doing lower-down items instead of higher-up items. Perry has the top of his list filled with so many awesome items that even things lower down are still well worth doing. So, it sounds like you could add more awesome things to do to the top of your list, until your procrastination becomes things like..watching Sublime tutorials. He explains his method in detail on this page: http://www.structuredprocrastination.com/ http://www.structuredprocrastination.com/
  - sprkwd 5y ago
    Oh that is wonderful. Thank you for sharing.
  - TeeMassive 5y ago
    Ok, I'll check that out later.
- dsego 5y ago
  https://packagecontrol.io/packages/Sublime%20Tutor https://packagecontrol.io/packages/Sublime%20Tutor
  - TeeMassive 5y ago
    I'll definitely check this out!
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themacguffinman 5y ago
I was surprised to see "By default, GPU rendering is enabled on Mac, and disabled on Windows and Linux". Is there any reason I shouldn't manually enable GPU rendering on Windows/Linux?
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  Windows and Linux have a much larger variety in hardware and drivers and much lower prevalence of high-dpi monitors. So we felt that for now it would be better to leave it disabled by default. This may change in the future.
  - joshschreuder 5y ago
    Is there a DPI threshold that would benefit most from GPU support?
    - ben-schaaf 5y ago
      As always it depends on the hardware. I've personally found that things start to get slow at >1440p.
      - deagle50 5y ago
        Is there a typing latency penalty to GPU rendering?
        ben-schaaf 5y ago
        Latency in fact would be reduced due to faster rendering. Remember that it needs to go to the GPU eventually anyway in order to output to a display.
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  - bruce343434 5y ago
    Can you at least turn it on this time? I stopped using ST because scrolling was so incredibly choppy on linux. It always lagged a second behind and felt so unresponsive. Edit: just read the patch notes, the ans is yes. Awesome!
SNosTrAnDbLe 5y ago
Thanks for introducing the multi select feature in text editing. There may have been other editors before which had but Sublime was where I first encountered this and where it felt natural. It has saved me countless keystrokes! I use VS Code now but it has started getting slower and it may be time to go back to sublime!
- beermonster 5y ago
  IMHO, VS Code makes for a fine cross-platform IDE (for those that like IDEs) but is a bit heavy-weight as a text editor. I tend to use them both in different situations. If I want something that is FAST on very large files or projects, with superb language support for large numbers of languages and markdown - I use ST.
  - bennyp101 5y ago
    Yep, I switched to VSCode for general day-to-day coding, then to Jetbeans, but I still kept ST3 around for doing things with text. If I want to manipulate some text (even in large files) quickly, thats my goto tool. New installs get ST3 installed by default, even if I don't have a plan to use it on that machine, I treat it as if it was a Notepad on windows back in the day. Wonderful piece of software.
- klmadfejno 5y ago
  I use sublime 3 pretty frequently, and am aware of this feature, but haven't experienced a moment where this was useful, or at least, not more useful than just running find-replace (which is fantastic on sublime with its pattern matching and speed and what not btw). How do you use this effectively?
  - SNosTrAnDbLe 5y ago
    I like the visual feedback with the multi select where I can select all the occurrences of a variable and then change the name at the same time without leaving the editor by just using the shortcut. For find and replace, I have to leave the editor and go to a different tool window. Also, my regex skills are sometimes lacking when I want to find something on a deadline. I only use find and replace when I have to do the same refactor across files.
yugene 5y ago
Congratulations on the release!
forrestthewoods 5y ago
Congrats on the release! I was an avid user (and paying customer!) of ST1 and ST2. Somewhere along the way I switched to VS Code. Why should I use ST4 over VS Code today?
- fclaerho 5y ago
  Perfs! If you don't want to wait 4h for files to load. When I see my colleagues trying to open files on VS, I can't understand how that's acceptable.
  - ReptileMan 5y ago
    For what kind of files? On windows code once opened in a workspace context opens normal source files of a project almost instantly. Are you talking about cold boot or huge log files? The only place for me code breaks down is with long jsons/js files that haven't beet prettified and are a long long string.
  - sigzero 5y ago
    That is not true about vscode anymore. It is fairly performant now.
    - spurgu 5y ago
      "Fairly" performant vs the blazing speed of ST?
iamcreasy 5y ago
I am wondering if it's possible for Python plugin to add custom UI elements? For example, if I am using Julia/R I want side panel that shows all my current variables in memory. Is Sublime plugin system capable of adding UI components such as variable/plot viewer and add custom interactions to those UI panels(i.e. zoom/rotation for plots)?
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  That's not currently possible, no. The only custom UI elements can be done using minihtml (a subset of html).
- trosi 5y ago
  > For example, if I am using Julia/R I want side panel that shows all my current variables in memory. Mind sharing how you do this in R? Thanks!
  - iamcreasy 5y ago
    I was thinking about something similar to the Environment panel in RStudio. You can also see all variables in a given session using ls()
fclaerho 5y ago
As a developer, I tried to use a lot of code editors, my main criteria being performance, and I've stuck to ST since the first day I used it. Your editor is awesome and in term of perf you're far ahead. Thanks for your work, and also thanks a lot to adding the M1 support with ST4! I didn't expected it (ST3 works fine with Rosetta on M1) and it's much appreciated.
shrikrishna 5y ago
I've loved Sublime for years, and it's always the first software I install on a new machine. I even voted with my pocket by buying a license. However, since we started using Yarn workspaces (for JS), I've needed to switch to VSCode because its auto-import is just so much better, and it's one of those things that's hard to go back from, once you're used to it. Sublime text already indexes my code for search, which can probably be used for path suggestions / automatic imports without affecting performance too much maybe? I dunno. I wouldn't mind it being a plugin either (before Yarn workspaces, I'd use FuzzyFilePath plugin which worked pretty well). But native support would mean the performance would be on par with what I've come to expect from Sublime Text :)
blibble 5y ago
a bit of a weird one... is there anyway I use my license for version 4 on version 2? my day job has a fixed list of binaries that are permitted to run (by digest)... 2 is on the list, and 4 isn't (quite happily using 4 now at home!)
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  Newer licenses don't work on ST2 for technical reasons, but I'm sure we can work something out if you contact our sales support (bottom of this page: https://www.sublimehq.com/sales_faq https://www.sublimehq.com/sales_faq)
apocalyptic0n3 5y ago
I don't have any questions, but I would like to thank you and the rest of the team at Sublime HQ for developing such terrific products. I've used Sublime for various purposes for about 7 years now and just purchased, I think, my third license for it. And if I had to label any of my dev tools as a "must-have" for the way I want to work, I would probably put Sublime Merge first. Thank you so much!
meekins 5y ago
Congrats on the release! Are there any plans for some kind of combo deal now that Sublime Text and Sublime Merge licenses are aligned?
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  There already is :)
  - beermonster 5y ago
    Any link? I’ve used SM on and off just as I was excited when it first came out - I really like it.
    - ben-schaaf 5y ago
      When purchasing a new license or upgrading there's a checkbox for the bundle.
      - beermonster 5y ago
        Thanks!
BiteCode_dev 5y ago
Thank your for bringing into the world this beautiful tool. I paid for ST2, ST3 and SM and it brought a lot of joy into my work. I'm more into VSCode now (ST python editing experience has been lagging behind), but I keep ST close for out of project editing. I hope one day you will release your UI toolkit. Since it's crossplateform, fast, and plug into Python, it could be a wonderful alternative to PyQT, wxWidget and the like, and we really need something in the Python world. Good luck to ST4.
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  Thanks for the kind words :) > I hope one day you will release your UI toolkit. Since it's crossplateform, fast, and plug into Python, it could be a wonderful alternative to PyQT, wxWidget and the like, and we really need something in the Python world. Note our UI toolkit is really adjacent to python - there's no integration there at all. See here for my answer in relation to releasing/open sourcing our UI toolkit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27230608 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27230608.
arvindamirtaa 5y ago
Do you have any plans to add first class support for SSH based or docker based remote development workflows? The current Rsubl implementation kinda works. But is a bit hacky for reliable everyday work.
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  We've certainly talked about it, but there aren't any concrete plans yet.
  - danmur 5y ago
    I love Sublime, I've paid for every version and I did the same for my devs for many years (when I had a company cc!). I would just like to say remote editing is the only thing I use vscode for. If ST had remote editing I and probably a lot of other people would use it more. Once again, love sublime, just a suggestion :)
    - z3t4 5y ago
      Install xserver (also works on Mac and Windows) then ssh -X to the container. Start sublime on the container, and the gui will show up locally.
      - jonquest 5y ago
        For one off things, it's easy enough to just use something like WinSCP or ssh + vim. Having to count on a remote environment having all of the X client software installed to do X forwarding and sublime text to boot is going to leave a lot of people disappointed. If subl supported remote editing out of the box the presence of any extra software beyond, say SSH, becomes something no one needs to care about. Bonus, your local install is already configured and setup exactly the way you like it.
    - davidkhess 5y ago
      Not sure if it matches your use case or not, but I use sshfs with Sublime Text and it's just as good as local editing.
onei 5y ago
I can see personal licenses get the 3 years worth of updates that you've mentioned elsewhere in the comments here. However, business licenses get 1 year of use before it expires, but I can't tell if that includes upgrades from ST3 to ST4. Can you clarify what the status is for that?
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  Business licenses follow the traditional subscription model. The licenses don't expire, but they do get revoked once the business either revokes them or stops paying. Because of this there is no upgrade from ST3 to ST4 - it's simply included in the subscription.
beermonster 5y ago
I like the fact I can upgrade my 3 licence ! Whoop whoop. Will take it for a spin - thanks for that hard and continued work.
bambax 5y ago
The UI of ST is fantastic and like most people here I love it. However, opening big files doesn't work too well, it seems the program wants to load the whole file in memory. Any change on that front?
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  ST4 has a number of performance improvements in relation to large files, but we don't plan on not loading the whole file into memory as this is a core assumption in the entire UI stack.
  - sammorrowdrums 5y ago
    Could you configure a user setting for max file size? I have clicked very large files by accident plenty of times and it makes ST hang.
bussiere 5y ago
I'am using it since 2 years, and i planned to pay the license as soon as a have a stable income. For me it's the best second editor, i always have it open when i do an operation. I have different main tool / editor open but always sublime text as a second tool. Thanks for keeping a 32 bit version also.
math-dev 5y ago
Thank you for your great work. For HTML / JavaScript, Sublime is simply amazing and a joy for me to use.
nix23 5y ago
I would love to use ST on FreeBSD and Solaris natively, i know it's a niche and probably not worth the time, but still here i said it. BTW: Thanks for a great Editor.
- tadaima 5y ago
  FreeBSD ports: https://github.com/matias-pizarro/freebsd-custom-ports/tree/master/editors/linux-sublime-text https://github.com/matias-pizarro/freebsd-custom-ports/tree/... https://github.com/matias-pizarro/freebsd-custom-ports/tree/master/editors/linux-sublime-merge https://github.com/matias-pizarro/freebsd-custom-ports/tree/... Hopefully soon these will get added to the official ports repo and you can find them there: https://www.freshports.org/editors/linux-sublime-text https://www.freshports.org/editors/linux-sublime-text https://www.freshports.org/editors/linux-sublime-merge https://www.freshports.org/editors/linux-sublime-merge
  - nix23 5y ago
    That's why i wrote natively. I could also install Wine and download the exe file instead ;)
shaicoleman 5y ago
Sublime is awesome, thanks! I've purchased an upgrade straight away. Can you pretty please fix the issue where files deleted/renamed outside sublime are shown as unsaved? It often ends up with a lot of wasted debugging time until I realise I'm working on the wrong file Please show "filename (deleted)" on the title, instead of "filename •". Thanks!
- M4v3R 5y ago
  Very much this, this is basically my only gripe with Sublime Text!
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  You can make modified tabs more visible with the "highlight_modified_tabs" setting.
  - jannes 5y ago
    That does not really address the stated problem. The problem is that you can’t distinguish between a file that exists (where saving would overwrite the file) and a file that doesn’t exist (where saving would create the file).
  - shaicoleman 5y ago
    This doesn't solve the issue. To make things clearer, here's how you replicate it: * Open file1.txt in sublime. This shows up as "file1.txt" in Sublime. * In the terminal: mv file1.txt file1a.txt * Back in Sublime it will show "file1.txt •" as if it's modified and unsaved. Saving that file will now recreate that file, and you'll end up duplicating the file and editing the wrong file. Instead, what should happen is when you delete/rename file1.txt it should show "file1.txt (deleted)" Try the same thing in any other editor (e.g. VSCode), and it handles it correctly.
    - bouke 5y ago
      I’d say if the file got renamed, the editor should just use the new filename. The name of the file is just metadata, not its identity.
demarq 5y ago
anything improved for Rust?
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  There are a number of improvements to the rust syntax.
  - demarq 5y ago
    Thank you
faraaz98 5y ago
I want you lot to get a lot of funding for this because ST is the best editor IMO and it shouldn't be abandoned
DevKoala 5y ago
My favorite editor. Thank you so much.
parsd 5y ago
Is the team considering making an "HTTP Client, done Sublime" at some point?
- devmunchies 5y ago
  what do you mean? like a Postman? a browser?
  - parsd 5y ago
    Yes, something that could do what Postman does.
alexruf 5y ago
Regarding the licence upgrade options: Are there any solutions for users owning a single licence for both Sublime Text 3 and Sublime Merge? My Sublime Merge licence for example is still valid for 2 years from now. If I try to upgrade my current licence and want to bundle them together it says the price is 152 USD. Any options for users like me to not make them pay twice when choosing the bundle licence?
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  We don't currently offer anything like that. Your current best bet would be to consolidate licenses into a bundle at a later date.
Greaka 5y ago
Hey there, subl is absolutely the best when you quickly need to open and edit a huge file. You cannot, however, do that when the file only has 1 line. Do you think it might be possible to get that fixed at some point? Opening a 1 line 1GB file on a modern machine brings subl to a complete halt and regex editing is sheer impossible.
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  This is a known limitation that we're looking at addressing in future updates.
  - Aeolun 5y ago
    Not that any other editor but Vim seems to do this without issues, but it is one of the things the whole experience of Sublime leads me to believe would already be possible :)
  - siculars 5y ago
    So is your internal mem structure/unit of operation split on new line? Sounds like you need to refine that to include a max character count sub line structure.
- bachmeier 5y ago
  > Opening a 1 line 1GB file on a modern machine brings subl to a complete halt and regex editing is sheer impossible. Is this a common operation for a text editor?
  - magicalhippo 5y ago
    Perhaps not super-common, but at work we have to deal with XML files that are 4-500MB in size that don't contain newline characters. Every now and then we have edit them. It's at least something I'd expect a premium text editor to handle without issues.
  - adamzochowski 5y ago
    Yeah, plenty of people edit files like xml or json in text editors.
Keats 5y ago
Any plans to help Syntect (https://github.com/trishume/syntect https://github.com/trishume/syntect) work with the latest sublime-syntax format (https://github.com/trishume/syntect/issues/271 https://github.com/trishume/syntect/issues/271 and https://github.com/trishume/syntect/issues/323 https://github.com/trishume/syntect/issues/323)? There is a big overlap in contributors for syntect users and syntect can be used by syntax writers to debug syntaxes so it would be a win-win.
aryamaan 5y ago
Thanks for this, I absolutely like it for the most parts. My only complain with Sublime is that if I have 100s of unnamed tabs opened, it gets very difficult to find a particular tab. I wish there was somewhat better tab organisation possible. Maybe there are some plug-ins, I did check last time when I was frustrated with it. Does anyone else face this issue or have I been using it wrong?
- chrisan 5y ago
  You can use it however you like, but the moment I get to so many tabs open I can't read the titles of all of them is the moment I know I have too many tabs open and just start closing old ones, likely with "close others" action. You have ctrl tab and alt-# but once tab names are no longer visible/readable I don't see the reason to keep so many open. I think the filetree view is exactly how 100s of files should be organized for finding a file you can't remember the name of or ctrl-p for quickly opening a file you do
  - Silhouette 5y ago
    You have ctrl tab and alt-# but once tab names are no longer visible/readable I don't see the reason to keep so many open I make extensive use of layouts with several panes, bookmarks and, for longer files, opening multiple views into the same file and code folding. I find these tools particularly helpful when editing or reviewing sets of related files. This happens a lot for me: application code and its tests, front-end and back-end code either side of an API, code defining types/constants/interfaces and code using them, or sometimes larger numbers of related files when these kinds of pairings multiply. As long as everything stays open, ST preserves all of that display context independently for each file/view. Closing and reopening would lose that context every time.
- mikeappell 5y ago
  I tend to open multiple windows instead. Though, to be fair, I usually do that on a per project basis. I try to close tabs once I realize I'm not going to be using them in the near future. Basically the exact opposite of my browser habits, where I easily have 100 tabs open at any time, lol.
otikik 5y ago
How difficult would it be to make a Sublime-Text-for-terminals?
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  Practically impossible. It's like trying to play a video on a terminal.
  - robin_reala 5y ago
    Practically impossible doesn’t exclude possible :) https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/music-video-linux-terminal https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/music-video-linux-terminal
  - charleover 5y ago
    mpv -vo "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMYfkOtYYlg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMYfkOtYYlg" From https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/160212/watch-youtube-videos-in-terminal https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/160212/watch-youtub...
- charleover 5y ago
  It's by no means ST for terminals but Micro is well worth a look if you haven't seen it. It has sane keyboard shortcuts, nice syntax highlighting, mouse and multi-cursor support. https://micro-editor.github.io/ https://micro-editor.github.io/
otikik 5y ago
Could you give a high-level description about what does sublime do in order to handle large files?
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  Ropes, a fast syntax engine and lots of caching/optimisation. Maybe there will be a blogpost on this one day.
odiroot 5y ago
Do you expect that working with Python codebases will get better with this release? I mean it in the context of code completion and other "intelligence" features.
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  Code completions have massively improved for every language with syntax highlighting.
  - odiroot 5y ago
    That's very good news. That was my only pain point with ST3.
matklad 5y ago
Are there any plans regarding first class support for LSP (or, more generally and perhaps more useful, first class support for extensions providing semantic knowledge about the code)? I know that LSP plugin exists, but, anecdotally, folks are having trouble with it. Which i think is understandable https://lsp.sublimetext.io/features/ https://lsp.sublimetext.io/features/ says Show Code Actions: UNBOUND, and this is the second most useful thing in LSP (the first is extend selection), it’s not that the plugin is wrong: it’s just that you can do only so much if the editor lacks first class UI/UX concepts for features, required to expose LSP to the user.
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  We've worked hard alongside the developers of the LSP plugin to improve support for it with ST4 and will be continue to do so in the future.
  - rattray 5y ago
    Can you share any comments from the discord beta testers about the LSP in v4? Or are the majority of the user-facing improvements to the LSP plugin still to come, based on the foundational work that just rolled out?
    - ben-schaaf 5y ago
      I didn't have much to do with LSP or the plugins during development, but from what I've heard most of the work has already been done. LSP has had a ST4-specific branch for quite some time.
- losvedir 5y ago
  Yeah, this is crucial to me. I was formerly a paid user of ST3 before switching to VSCode, but gave the ST4 beta a try a month or so ago. I couldn't get the LSP to work for me for Elixir, so I ended up back on VSCode for now. I figured I'd wait until the non beta release, and try again. The sort of minimal deal breaker level of support for me is being able to jump to definition. The symbols, if I understand correctly, are based on the syntax configuration, and for the common Elixir one, it includes the type definition line, each function head, and the callsites of the function, which makes it nearly useless for symbol navigation. I figured LSP would help in this regard, but I couldn't make it work. The docs were vague, and I think I had to put some JSON configuration structure in some file, but nothing I tried I guess was the right file or right structure. Still, I love everything else about Sublime and am excited now for multi-tab-select, so I'll probably give it one more try. Hopefully LSP is better integrated or documented by now.
jokoon 5y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27232271 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27232271 I love this editor, but this detail annoys me: https://i.imgur.com/wu6ZfSa.png https://i.imgur.com/wu6ZfSa.png Folding code with curly braces doesn't "eat" the brace. It's indent-based, not syntax based. There is a 2 or 3 years old issue on their github, and they don't plan to fix. A little annoying for a paying editor. Here is the github issue: https://github.com/sublimehq/sublime_text/issues/101 https://github.com/sublimehq/sublime_text/issues/101 Maybe they fixed it and I did not look up new settings?
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  This is in fact an issue we're going to address. We already have a large amount of work done towards it, but it didn't make it into this release.
  - jokoon 5y ago
    Great to hear it has not been abandoned :)
nicoburns 5y ago
Is there a reason why ST re-indexes everything on every update? (I'm fairly sure it didn't used to). My workflow involves keeping 9 sublime projects open most of the time (damn microservices), and restarting sublime after an update makes my computer very slow (not unusable, not noticeably laggy) for 5-10mins each time. Relatedly, sublime has an excellent changelog window, but it only shows up after you've already updated! It would be really nice if I could see the changelog before I decide whether to update or not...
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  When the syntax definitions change, the symbols that need to get indexed change as well. Hence the project needs to be re-indexed. There are settings for controlling how many resources the indexer is allowed to use.
pieterhg 5y ago
I love Sublime Text and use it for everything from code to notes and todos. Thanks for all the hard work!
fdeage 5y ago
Hi there, Thanks for this release! I use ST every day and I love it: the speed, the efficiency, everything. The one thing I miss, though, is manipulating files from the left panel (moving files especially). I know there is a plug-in doing that (Side Bar) but it lacks drag-and-drop support. Any plan to have it natively in the future?
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  It's been on our radar but hasn't been a high priority so far. You can currently use rename to move a file across directories using `../` or similar.
  - mambusskruj 5y ago
    OMG this is so convenient! Just fall in love with this behavior. It'll be even better with autocomplete ;)
  - fdeage 5y ago
    I didn’t know that, thanks!
stephc_int13 5y ago
Do you plan to add an integrated terminal to ST at some point?
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  We do not have any plan to do this, though there are some features we're looking at for improving existing terminal packages. I personally wouldn't ever use a embedded terminal, as their user interaction inherently conflicts with the rest of the application. ctrl+w for instance needs to both close files/tabs as well as delete a word in the terminal.
zamadatix 5y ago
Any chance of a Windows ARM64 version since macOS/Linux have one?
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  I can't really say one way or another. Given that we can't feasibly test on the large variety of ARM devices out there I think it will depend on how maintenance free the ARM Linux builds are and how much people ask for a ARM Windows build.
demarq 5y ago
for typescript it would be nice to hover any word and see it's type. is that a planned feature? I noticed that you can only see the type of a type
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  That kind of feature requires integrating a TypeScript compiler, akin to an IDE. Sublime Text is first and foremost a text editor and such doesn't have that kind of information. You may want to look at plugins like LSP for that.
teddyc 5y ago
I love Sublime Text and have purchased licenses for each version. Thank you very much!
thieving_magpie 5y ago
Hello. How was the transition on the Windows side to UWP? It looks great.
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  Sublime Text is still based on win32, not UWP.
  - thieving_magpie 5y ago
    Oh interesting. I had previously read a limitation of changing the title bar to use a dark theme was based on sticking to win32. Sounds like that hurdle was overcome in a different way - either way I'm appreciative. Here's a reference to the discussion on the 'dark theme': https://forum.sublimetext.com/t/support-dark-theme-on-windows/48255 https://forum.sublimetext.com/t/support-dark-theme-on-window...
    - ben-schaaf 5y ago
      We overcame that hurdle by painstakingly recreating the default Windows titlebar(s) in our own UI toolkit.
      - thieving_magpie 5y ago
        It's appreciated and looks great.
sigzero 5y ago
Congrats! When the payday hits I will buy it. I've been waiting. I know I could have purchased an ST3 license and got this but...I am weird.
dmitshur 5y ago
Question about license upgrades. The page says: > Note you can upgrade to the bundle from either a Sublime Text or Sublime Merge license. Right now I have a ST3 license and would like to upgrade it to both ST4 and Sublime Merge. If one upgrades to a bundle now, will it be possible in the future to upgrade the bundle license to a single product one? Or is the only option to buy a new single product license instead? (I’m ok with it either way, I just want to find out so I can plan better.)
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  Currently you can only upgrade from a bundle to a bundle, but the exact behavior hasn't been fully decided on yet. I'll look into clarifying that.
  - dmitshur 5y ago
    Thank you.
PascLeRasc 5y ago
Is there a way to go back to the trapezoid-style tab UI instead of the rounded new Chrome tab UI? I didn't see it in any of the preinstalled themes but maybe there's a flag somewhere.
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  Use the `"file_tab_style"` setting. Do note that the older tab styles are missing some features, like highlighting the focused tab.
  - PascLeRasc 5y ago
    Thank you! I know this isn't much, but I just bought a license based on this comment. I didn't know it was possible but Sublime 4 feels even faster!
philshem 5y ago
Hi Ben When will ST4 show up on Homebrew? https://formulae.brew.sh/cask/sublime-text https://formulae.brew.sh/cask/sublime-text Thanks for taking the time to answer questions
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  We only ship downloads from sublimetext.com. Any other avenues like homebrew, flatpak, etc. are supplied by third parties with no relation to us. Sublime Text on macOS has its down update mechanism that you may prefer over homebrew.
- philshem 5y ago
  If anyone reads this later, ST4 is now the downloadable from Homebrew
traspler 5y ago
Could it be that you‘ve already been using the new GPU rendering in SublimeMerge but not ST3? That would explain the visual corruption issues I sometimes have with Merge but not ST3. In Merge some actions, sometimes (mostly in the settings) corrupt the application window (sometimes also after minimizing and sleep) on my MacBook. To me it looked like a rendering/GPU issue. It looks like blocks of pixels having different colors, lines shifted, etc.
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  Yes we've been shipping the hardware accelerated rendering with Sublime Merge for some time now. A bug report would be welcome (Under Help > Report a Bug)
username3 5y ago
How can I save groups of tabs so side views won’t get lost if I switch to another tab? Edit: ctrl+tab saves, but mouse clicking a tab loses How can I open find results in a split view? How can I open definitions and references in split views without using the mouse to hover and click? Edit: F12 and shift+F12.
blissofbeing 5y ago
Is there any chance you'll be adding support for moving the sidebar to the right? This is the one stopping me from moving back to sublime.
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  We do have something on the backburner for this.
gaws 5y ago
Do you use Sublime Text for development?
- ben-schaaf 5y ago
  I've been using Sublime Text long before I started working. I use it for any code or text related functionality. Of course it's also used internally by everyone working on our products.
Stanzilla 5y ago
If you could say one thing to a person currently using vs code to get them to try sublime, what would that be? It can't be "speed".
db579 5y ago
Would you ever consider a licensing model similar to Cockroach DBs BSL where older versions fall into the public domain/are open sourced once they're no longer revenue generating? Or perhaps once a new major version is out?
ernie24 5y ago
Are there any chances for better Vim mode?

Hello HN, I'm one of the developers at Sublime HQ. We're all very excited about this release. If you have any questions you'd like to ask I'll do my best to answer them.

hn8788 5y ago

Congratulations on the new release though, it's been my favorite editor for years. Just a heads up, when you upgrade an existing license, the instructions say to click on Help > Enter License, but you have to remove the current license before you can enter a new one.

breck 5y ago
Yup! I just ran into that too. Also, it looks like I could have upgraded my existing license for $70 via going that route, instead of buying a new one for $80. (Np for me, I'm a huge fan, but for other existing users check out "Help" menu before buying a new license)
ben-schaaf 5y ago
Thanks, we've added some instructions for that.

1123581321 5y ago

About Sublime Text says that I have a Single User License registered. Is it going to prompt me to upgrade, or am I grandfathered in some way? I bought this Sublime 3 license in Feb 2018. Just trying to understand what's going on. The app itself is great so far, especially the GPU performance.

ben-schaaf 5y ago
Your license is still valid for all versions released before Feb 2021 (3 years after purchase). Once you update to a version released after that date you will see a "LICENSE UPGRADE REQUIRED" in the title bar. Under `Help > Upgrade License` you can then purchase an upgrade. There is also a popup prompting for an upgrade if you've entered an "expired" license anew.

ddingus 5y ago

Is there a Raspi version yet? That would make my little embedded dev station just perfect! Would migrate it all to that new Pi 400.

ben-schaaf 5y ago
Arm64 builds are available to download just like any other version. The port was done on a RPI 4, but it's also been tested on a PinePhone and a Nintendo Switch.
- ddingus 5y ago
  Nice. I could have checked. Has been a while. Have been just running a version. Thanks for taking the time.

FlyingSnake 5y ago

Are there any plans to open source the GUI system? It could be a hugely beneficial for a set of cross platform apps. Thanks a lot for creating this piece of software art. I’m a user since the v1 and no matter what the editor du jour is, I always fallback to ST and Vim.

ben-schaaf 5y ago
This question has been asked a lot, so thankfully I've got an easy answer: You don't actually want to build on top of our UI toolkit. We make breaking changes all the time, there's very little documentation and no release cycle at all. This isn't a problem for us as we have in-house knowledge and can fix any breakages trivially, but you don't want every open source project to have to maintain it's own fork of a UI toolkit.
- ChrisMarshallNY 5y ago
  I completely support this. I write a ton of open-source software, and have many published packages. Each one that I publish is a Responsibility. Like a parent that has children, the package is no longer “completely mine.” All changes and fixes are made, keeping in mind that someone may be dependent upon my work. I’ve been writing SDKs -literally- my entire career (I can link to my very first engineering project, in 1987, where I designed a hardware system, and a companion SDK). A perfectly legitimate reason for keeping code private, is that I am not willing to support it for any use, other than my own personal use.
  - jiofih 5y ago
    There is no obligation to support the code at all though. You can release it once, say it’s unsupported, and let the community pick up maintenance / forks if there’s enough interest. Otherwise, no harm done.
    - Phenix88be 5y ago
      > and let the community pick up maintenance / forks if there’s enough interest. This almost never happen, even when the interest is very high... I love open source and free software, but we should face that this point is more a fantasy than a real thing.

TeeMassive 5y ago

Vim has Vimtutor; could Sublime have its Sumblimetutor too? I've been using Sublime for years now and yet I barely use most of its "well known features" and I feel ashamed of myself. I know there are tutorials out there, but I am a chronic procrastinator and I just can't bring myself to watch them while at home.

yesenadam 5y ago
You could use philosopher John Perry's method. Put every activity on a To Do list, ordered by importance. Procrastination is doing lower-down items instead of higher-up items. Perry has the top of his list filled with so many awesome items that even things lower down are still well worth doing. So, it sounds like you could add more awesome things to do to the top of your list, until your procrastination becomes things like..watching Sublime tutorials. He explains his method in detail on this page: http://www.structuredprocrastination.com/ http://www.structuredprocrastination.com/
- sprkwd 5y ago
  Oh that is wonderful. Thank you for sharing.
- TeeMassive 5y ago
  Ok, I'll check that out later.
dsego 5y ago
https://packagecontrol.io/packages/Sublime%20Tutor https://packagecontrol.io/packages/Sublime%20Tutor
- TeeMassive 5y ago
  I'll definitely check this out!

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themacguffinman 5y ago

I was surprised to see "By default, GPU rendering is enabled on Mac, and disabled on Windows and Linux". Is there any reason I shouldn't manually enable GPU rendering on Windows/Linux?

ben-schaaf 5y ago
Windows and Linux have a much larger variety in hardware and drivers and much lower prevalence of high-dpi monitors. So we felt that for now it would be better to leave it disabled by default. This may change in the future.
- joshschreuder 5y ago
  Is there a DPI threshold that would benefit most from GPU support?
  - ben-schaaf 5y ago
    As always it depends on the hardware. I've personally found that things start to get slow at >1440p.
    - deagle50 5y ago
      Is there a typing latency penalty to GPU rendering?
      - ben-schaaf 5y ago
        Latency in fact would be reduced due to faster rendering. Remember that it needs to go to the GPU eventually anyway in order to output to a display.
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- bruce343434 5y ago
  Can you at least turn it on this time? I stopped using ST because scrolling was so incredibly choppy on linux. It always lagged a second behind and felt so unresponsive. Edit: just read the patch notes, the ans is yes. Awesome!

SNosTrAnDbLe 5y ago

Thanks for introducing the multi select feature in text editing. There may have been other editors before which had but Sublime was where I first encountered this and where it felt natural. It has saved me countless keystrokes! I use VS Code now but it has started getting slower and it may be time to go back to sublime!

beermonster 5y ago
IMHO, VS Code makes for a fine cross-platform IDE (for those that like IDEs) but is a bit heavy-weight as a text editor. I tend to use them both in different situations. If I want something that is FAST on very large files or projects, with superb language support for large numbers of languages and markdown - I use ST.
- bennyp101 5y ago
  Yep, I switched to VSCode for general day-to-day coding, then to Jetbeans, but I still kept ST3 around for doing things with text. If I want to manipulate some text (even in large files) quickly, thats my goto tool. New installs get ST3 installed by default, even if I don't have a plan to use it on that machine, I treat it as if it was a Notepad on windows back in the day. Wonderful piece of software.
klmadfejno 5y ago
I use sublime 3 pretty frequently, and am aware of this feature, but haven't experienced a moment where this was useful, or at least, not more useful than just running find-replace (which is fantastic on sublime with its pattern matching and speed and what not btw). How do you use this effectively?
- SNosTrAnDbLe 5y ago
  I like the visual feedback with the multi select where I can select all the occurrences of a variable and then change the name at the same time without leaving the editor by just using the shortcut. For find and replace, I have to leave the editor and go to a different tool window. Also, my regex skills are sometimes lacking when I want to find something on a deadline. I only use find and replace when I have to do the same refactor across files.

yugene 5y ago

Congratulations on the release!

forrestthewoods 5y ago

Congrats on the release! I was an avid user (and paying customer!) of ST1 and ST2. Somewhere along the way I switched to VS Code. Why should I use ST4 over VS Code today?

fclaerho 5y ago
Perfs! If you don't want to wait 4h for files to load. When I see my colleagues trying to open files on VS, I can't understand how that's acceptable.
- ReptileMan 5y ago
  For what kind of files? On windows code once opened in a workspace context opens normal source files of a project almost instantly. Are you talking about cold boot or huge log files? The only place for me code breaks down is with long jsons/js files that haven't beet prettified and are a long long string.
- sigzero 5y ago
  That is not true about vscode anymore. It is fairly performant now.
  - spurgu 5y ago
    "Fairly" performant vs the blazing speed of ST?

iamcreasy 5y ago

I am wondering if it's possible for Python plugin to add custom UI elements? For example, if I am using Julia/R I want side panel that shows all my current variables in memory. Is Sublime plugin system capable of adding UI components such as variable/plot viewer and add custom interactions to those UI panels(i.e. zoom/rotation for plots)?

ben-schaaf 5y ago
That's not currently possible, no. The only custom UI elements can be done using minihtml (a subset of html).
trosi 5y ago
> For example, if I am using Julia/R I want side panel that shows all my current variables in memory. Mind sharing how you do this in R? Thanks!
- iamcreasy 5y ago
  I was thinking about something similar to the Environment panel in RStudio. You can also see all variables in a given session using ls()

fclaerho 5y ago

As a developer, I tried to use a lot of code editors, my main criteria being performance, and I've stuck to ST since the first day I used it. Your editor is awesome and in term of perf you're far ahead. Thanks for your work, and also thanks a lot to adding the M1 support with ST4! I didn't expected it (ST3 works fine with Rosetta on M1) and it's much appreciated.

shrikrishna 5y ago

I've loved Sublime for years, and it's always the first software I install on a new machine. I even voted with my pocket by buying a license. However, since we started using Yarn workspaces (for JS), I've needed to switch to VSCode because its auto-import is just so much better, and it's one of those things that's hard to go back from, once you're used to it. Sublime text already indexes my code for search, which can probably be used for path suggestions / automatic imports without affecting performance too much maybe? I dunno. I wouldn't mind it being a plugin either (before Yarn workspaces, I'd use FuzzyFilePath plugin which worked pretty well). But native support would mean the performance would be on par with what I've come to expect from Sublime Text :)

blibble 5y ago

a bit of a weird one... is there anyway I use my license for version 4 on version 2? my day job has a fixed list of binaries that are permitted to run (by digest)... 2 is on the list, and 4 isn't (quite happily using 4 now at home!)

ben-schaaf 5y ago
Newer licenses don't work on ST2 for technical reasons, but I'm sure we can work something out if you contact our sales support (bottom of this page: https://www.sublimehq.com/sales_faq https://www.sublimehq.com/sales_faq)

apocalyptic0n3 5y ago

I don't have any questions, but I would like to thank you and the rest of the team at Sublime HQ for developing such terrific products. I've used Sublime for various purposes for about 7 years now and just purchased, I think, my third license for it. And if I had to label any of my dev tools as a "must-have" for the way I want to work, I would probably put Sublime Merge first. Thank you so much!

meekins 5y ago

Congrats on the release! Are there any plans for some kind of combo deal now that Sublime Text and Sublime Merge licenses are aligned?

ben-schaaf 5y ago
There already is :)
- beermonster 5y ago
  Any link? I’ve used SM on and off just as I was excited when it first came out - I really like it.
  - ben-schaaf 5y ago
    When purchasing a new license or upgrading there's a checkbox for the bundle.
    - beermonster 5y ago
      Thanks!

BiteCode_dev 5y ago

Thank your for bringing into the world this beautiful tool. I paid for ST2, ST3 and SM and it brought a lot of joy into my work. I'm more into VSCode now (ST python editing experience has been lagging behind), but I keep ST close for out of project editing. I hope one day you will release your UI toolkit. Since it's crossplateform, fast, and plug into Python, it could be a wonderful alternative to PyQT, wxWidget and the like, and we really need something in the Python world. Good luck to ST4.

ben-schaaf 5y ago
Thanks for the kind words :) > I hope one day you will release your UI toolkit. Since it's crossplateform, fast, and plug into Python, it could be a wonderful alternative to PyQT, wxWidget and the like, and we really need something in the Python world. Note our UI toolkit is really adjacent to python - there's no integration there at all. See here for my answer in relation to releasing/open sourcing our UI toolkit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27230608 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27230608.

arvindamirtaa 5y ago

Do you have any plans to add first class support for SSH based or docker based remote development workflows? The current Rsubl implementation kinda works. But is a bit hacky for reliable everyday work.

ben-schaaf 5y ago
We've certainly talked about it, but there aren't any concrete plans yet.
- danmur 5y ago
  I love Sublime, I've paid for every version and I did the same for my devs for many years (when I had a company cc!). I would just like to say remote editing is the only thing I use vscode for. If ST had remote editing I and probably a lot of other people would use it more. Once again, love sublime, just a suggestion :)
  - z3t4 5y ago
    Install xserver (also works on Mac and Windows) then ssh -X to the container. Start sublime on the container, and the gui will show up locally.
    - jonquest 5y ago
      For one off things, it's easy enough to just use something like WinSCP or ssh + vim. Having to count on a remote environment having all of the X client software installed to do X forwarding and sublime text to boot is going to leave a lot of people disappointed. If subl supported remote editing out of the box the presence of any extra software beyond, say SSH, becomes something no one needs to care about. Bonus, your local install is already configured and setup exactly the way you like it.
  - davidkhess 5y ago
    Not sure if it matches your use case or not, but I use sshfs with Sublime Text and it's just as good as local editing.

onei 5y ago

I can see personal licenses get the 3 years worth of updates that you've mentioned elsewhere in the comments here. However, business licenses get 1 year of use before it expires, but I can't tell if that includes upgrades from ST3 to ST4. Can you clarify what the status is for that?

ben-schaaf 5y ago
Business licenses follow the traditional subscription model. The licenses don't expire, but they do get revoked once the business either revokes them or stops paying. Because of this there is no upgrade from ST3 to ST4 - it's simply included in the subscription.

beermonster 5y ago

I like the fact I can upgrade my 3 licence ! Whoop whoop. Will take it for a spin - thanks for that hard and continued work.

bambax 5y ago

The UI of ST is fantastic and like most people here I love it. However, opening big files doesn't work too well, it seems the program wants to load the whole file in memory. Any change on that front?

ben-schaaf 5y ago
ST4 has a number of performance improvements in relation to large files, but we don't plan on not loading the whole file into memory as this is a core assumption in the entire UI stack.
- sammorrowdrums 5y ago
  Could you configure a user setting for max file size? I have clicked very large files by accident plenty of times and it makes ST hang.

bussiere 5y ago

I'am using it since 2 years, and i planned to pay the license as soon as a have a stable income. For me it's the best second editor, i always have it open when i do an operation. I have different main tool / editor open but always sublime text as a second tool. Thanks for keeping a 32 bit version also.

math-dev 5y ago

Thank you for your great work. For HTML / JavaScript, Sublime is simply amazing and a joy for me to use.

nix23 5y ago

I would love to use ST on FreeBSD and Solaris natively, i know it's a niche and probably not worth the time, but still here i said it. BTW: Thanks for a great Editor.

tadaima 5y ago
FreeBSD ports: https://github.com/matias-pizarro/freebsd-custom-ports/tree/master/editors/linux-sublime-text https://github.com/matias-pizarro/freebsd-custom-ports/tree/... https://github.com/matias-pizarro/freebsd-custom-ports/tree/master/editors/linux-sublime-merge https://github.com/matias-pizarro/freebsd-custom-ports/tree/... Hopefully soon these will get added to the official ports repo and you can find them there: https://www.freshports.org/editors/linux-sublime-text https://www.freshports.org/editors/linux-sublime-text https://www.freshports.org/editors/linux-sublime-merge https://www.freshports.org/editors/linux-sublime-merge
- nix23 5y ago
  That's why i wrote natively. I could also install Wine and download the exe file instead ;)

shaicoleman 5y ago

Sublime is awesome, thanks! I've purchased an upgrade straight away. Can you pretty please fix the issue where files deleted/renamed outside sublime are shown as unsaved? It often ends up with a lot of wasted debugging time until I realise I'm working on the wrong file Please show "filename (deleted)" on the title, instead of "filename •". Thanks!

M4v3R 5y ago
Very much this, this is basically my only gripe with Sublime Text!
ben-schaaf 5y ago
You can make modified tabs more visible with the "highlight_modified_tabs" setting.
- jannes 5y ago
  That does not really address the stated problem. The problem is that you can’t distinguish between a file that exists (where saving would overwrite the file) and a file that doesn’t exist (where saving would create the file).
- shaicoleman 5y ago
  This doesn't solve the issue. To make things clearer, here's how you replicate it: * Open file1.txt in sublime. This shows up as "file1.txt" in Sublime. * In the terminal: mv file1.txt file1a.txt * Back in Sublime it will show "file1.txt •" as if it's modified and unsaved. Saving that file will now recreate that file, and you'll end up duplicating the file and editing the wrong file. Instead, what should happen is when you delete/rename file1.txt it should show "file1.txt (deleted)" Try the same thing in any other editor (e.g. VSCode), and it handles it correctly.
  - bouke 5y ago
    I’d say if the file got renamed, the editor should just use the new filename. The name of the file is just metadata, not its identity.

demarq 5y ago

anything improved for Rust?

ben-schaaf 5y ago
There are a number of improvements to the rust syntax.
- demarq 5y ago
  Thank you

faraaz98 5y ago

I want you lot to get a lot of funding for this because ST is the best editor IMO and it shouldn't be abandoned

DevKoala 5y ago

My favorite editor. Thank you so much.

parsd 5y ago

Is the team considering making an "HTTP Client, done Sublime" at some point?

devmunchies 5y ago
what do you mean? like a Postman? a browser?
- parsd 5y ago
  Yes, something that could do what Postman does.

alexruf 5y ago

Regarding the licence upgrade options: Are there any solutions for users owning a single licence for both Sublime Text 3 and Sublime Merge? My Sublime Merge licence for example is still valid for 2 years from now. If I try to upgrade my current licence and want to bundle them together it says the price is 152 USD. Any options for users like me to not make them pay twice when choosing the bundle licence?

ben-schaaf 5y ago
We don't currently offer anything like that. Your current best bet would be to consolidate licenses into a bundle at a later date.

Greaka 5y ago

Hey there, subl is absolutely the best when you quickly need to open and edit a huge file. You cannot, however, do that when the file only has 1 line. Do you think it might be possible to get that fixed at some point? Opening a 1 line 1GB file on a modern machine brings subl to a complete halt and regex editing is sheer impossible.

ben-schaaf 5y ago
This is a known limitation that we're looking at addressing in future updates.
- Aeolun 5y ago
  Not that any other editor but Vim seems to do this without issues, but it is one of the things the whole experience of Sublime leads me to believe would already be possible :)
- siculars 5y ago
  So is your internal mem structure/unit of operation split on new line? Sounds like you need to refine that to include a max character count sub line structure.
bachmeier 5y ago
> Opening a 1 line 1GB file on a modern machine brings subl to a complete halt and regex editing is sheer impossible. Is this a common operation for a text editor?
- magicalhippo 5y ago
  Perhaps not super-common, but at work we have to deal with XML files that are 4-500MB in size that don't contain newline characters. Every now and then we have edit them. It's at least something I'd expect a premium text editor to handle without issues.
- adamzochowski 5y ago
  Yeah, plenty of people edit files like xml or json in text editors.

Keats 5y ago

Any plans to help Syntect (https://github.com/trishume/syntect https://github.com/trishume/syntect) work with the latest sublime-syntax format (https://github.com/trishume/syntect/issues/271 https://github.com/trishume/syntect/issues/271 and https://github.com/trishume/syntect/issues/323 https://github.com/trishume/syntect/issues/323)? There is a big overlap in contributors for syntect users and syntect can be used by syntax writers to debug syntaxes so it would be a win-win.

aryamaan 5y ago

Thanks for this, I absolutely like it for the most parts. My only complain with Sublime is that if I have 100s of unnamed tabs opened, it gets very difficult to find a particular tab. I wish there was somewhat better tab organisation possible. Maybe there are some plug-ins, I did check last time when I was frustrated with it. Does anyone else face this issue or have I been using it wrong?

chrisan 5y ago
You can use it however you like, but the moment I get to so many tabs open I can't read the titles of all of them is the moment I know I have too many tabs open and just start closing old ones, likely with "close others" action. You have ctrl tab and alt-# but once tab names are no longer visible/readable I don't see the reason to keep so many open. I think the filetree view is exactly how 100s of files should be organized for finding a file you can't remember the name of or ctrl-p for quickly opening a file you do
- Silhouette 5y ago
  You have ctrl tab and alt-# but once tab names are no longer visible/readable I don't see the reason to keep so many open I make extensive use of layouts with several panes, bookmarks and, for longer files, opening multiple views into the same file and code folding. I find these tools particularly helpful when editing or reviewing sets of related files. This happens a lot for me: application code and its tests, front-end and back-end code either side of an API, code defining types/constants/interfaces and code using them, or sometimes larger numbers of related files when these kinds of pairings multiply. As long as everything stays open, ST preserves all of that display context independently for each file/view. Closing and reopening would lose that context every time.
mikeappell 5y ago
I tend to open multiple windows instead. Though, to be fair, I usually do that on a per project basis. I try to close tabs once I realize I'm not going to be using them in the near future. Basically the exact opposite of my browser habits, where I easily have 100 tabs open at any time, lol.

otikik 5y ago

How difficult would it be to make a Sublime-Text-for-terminals?

ben-schaaf 5y ago
Practically impossible. It's like trying to play a video on a terminal.
- robin_reala 5y ago
  Practically impossible doesn’t exclude possible :) https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/music-video-linux-terminal https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/music-video-linux-terminal
- charleover 5y ago
  mpv -vo "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMYfkOtYYlg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMYfkOtYYlg" From https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/160212/watch-youtube-videos-in-terminal https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/160212/watch-youtub...
charleover 5y ago
It's by no means ST for terminals but Micro is well worth a look if you haven't seen it. It has sane keyboard shortcuts, nice syntax highlighting, mouse and multi-cursor support. https://micro-editor.github.io/ https://micro-editor.github.io/

otikik 5y ago

Could you give a high-level description about what does sublime do in order to handle large files?

ben-schaaf 5y ago
Ropes, a fast syntax engine and lots of caching/optimisation. Maybe there will be a blogpost on this one day.

odiroot 5y ago

Do you expect that working with Python codebases will get better with this release? I mean it in the context of code completion and other "intelligence" features.

ben-schaaf 5y ago
Code completions have massively improved for every language with syntax highlighting.
- odiroot 5y ago
  That's very good news. That was my only pain point with ST3.

matklad 5y ago

Are there any plans regarding first class support for LSP (or, more generally and perhaps more useful, first class support for extensions providing semantic knowledge about the code)? I know that LSP plugin exists, but, anecdotally, folks are having trouble with it. Which i think is understandable https://lsp.sublimetext.io/features/ https://lsp.sublimetext.io/features/ says Show Code Actions: UNBOUND, and this is the second most useful thing in LSP (the first is extend selection), it’s not that the plugin is wrong: it’s just that you can do only so much if the editor lacks first class UI/UX concepts for features, required to expose LSP to the user.

ben-schaaf 5y ago
We've worked hard alongside the developers of the LSP plugin to improve support for it with ST4 and will be continue to do so in the future.
- rattray 5y ago
  Can you share any comments from the discord beta testers about the LSP in v4? Or are the majority of the user-facing improvements to the LSP plugin still to come, based on the foundational work that just rolled out?
  - ben-schaaf 5y ago
    I didn't have much to do with LSP or the plugins during development, but from what I've heard most of the work has already been done. LSP has had a ST4-specific branch for quite some time.
losvedir 5y ago
Yeah, this is crucial to me. I was formerly a paid user of ST3 before switching to VSCode, but gave the ST4 beta a try a month or so ago. I couldn't get the LSP to work for me for Elixir, so I ended up back on VSCode for now. I figured I'd wait until the non beta release, and try again. The sort of minimal deal breaker level of support for me is being able to jump to definition. The symbols, if I understand correctly, are based on the syntax configuration, and for the common Elixir one, it includes the type definition line, each function head, and the callsites of the function, which makes it nearly useless for symbol navigation. I figured LSP would help in this regard, but I couldn't make it work. The docs were vague, and I think I had to put some JSON configuration structure in some file, but nothing I tried I guess was the right file or right structure. Still, I love everything else about Sublime and am excited now for multi-tab-select, so I'll probably give it one more try. Hopefully LSP is better integrated or documented by now.

jokoon 5y ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27232271 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27232271 I love this editor, but this detail annoys me: https://i.imgur.com/wu6ZfSa.png https://i.imgur.com/wu6ZfSa.png Folding code with curly braces doesn't "eat" the brace. It's indent-based, not syntax based. There is a 2 or 3 years old issue on their github, and they don't plan to fix. A little annoying for a paying editor. Here is the github issue: https://github.com/sublimehq/sublime_text/issues/101 https://github.com/sublimehq/sublime_text/issues/101 Maybe they fixed it and I did not look up new settings?

ben-schaaf 5y ago
This is in fact an issue we're going to address. We already have a large amount of work done towards it, but it didn't make it into this release.
- jokoon 5y ago
  Great to hear it has not been abandoned :)

nicoburns 5y ago

Is there a reason why ST re-indexes everything on every update? (I'm fairly sure it didn't used to). My workflow involves keeping 9 sublime projects open most of the time (damn microservices), and restarting sublime after an update makes my computer very slow (not unusable, not noticeably laggy) for 5-10mins each time. Relatedly, sublime has an excellent changelog window, but it only shows up after you've already updated! It would be really nice if I could see the changelog before I decide whether to update or not...

ben-schaaf 5y ago
When the syntax definitions change, the symbols that need to get indexed change as well. Hence the project needs to be re-indexed. There are settings for controlling how many resources the indexer is allowed to use.

pieterhg 5y ago

I love Sublime Text and use it for everything from code to notes and todos. Thanks for all the hard work!

fdeage 5y ago

Hi there, Thanks for this release! I use ST every day and I love it: the speed, the efficiency, everything. The one thing I miss, though, is manipulating files from the left panel (moving files especially). I know there is a plug-in doing that (Side Bar) but it lacks drag-and-drop support. Any plan to have it natively in the future?

ben-schaaf 5y ago
It's been on our radar but hasn't been a high priority so far. You can currently use rename to move a file across directories using `../` or similar.
- mambusskruj 5y ago
  OMG this is so convenient! Just fall in love with this behavior. It'll be even better with autocomplete ;)
- fdeage 5y ago
  I didn’t know that, thanks!

stephc_int13 5y ago

Do you plan to add an integrated terminal to ST at some point?

ben-schaaf 5y ago
We do not have any plan to do this, though there are some features we're looking at for improving existing terminal packages. I personally wouldn't ever use a embedded terminal, as their user interaction inherently conflicts with the rest of the application. ctrl+w for instance needs to both close files/tabs as well as delete a word in the terminal.

zamadatix 5y ago

Any chance of a Windows ARM64 version since macOS/Linux have one?

ben-schaaf 5y ago
I can't really say one way or another. Given that we can't feasibly test on the large variety of ARM devices out there I think it will depend on how maintenance free the ARM Linux builds are and how much people ask for a ARM Windows build.

demarq 5y ago

for typescript it would be nice to hover any word and see it's type. is that a planned feature? I noticed that you can only see the type of a type

ben-schaaf 5y ago
That kind of feature requires integrating a TypeScript compiler, akin to an IDE. Sublime Text is first and foremost a text editor and such doesn't have that kind of information. You may want to look at plugins like LSP for that.

teddyc 5y ago

I love Sublime Text and have purchased licenses for each version. Thank you very much!

thieving_magpie 5y ago

Hello. How was the transition on the Windows side to UWP? It looks great.

ben-schaaf 5y ago
Sublime Text is still based on win32, not UWP.
- thieving_magpie 5y ago
  Oh interesting. I had previously read a limitation of changing the title bar to use a dark theme was based on sticking to win32. Sounds like that hurdle was overcome in a different way - either way I'm appreciative. Here's a reference to the discussion on the 'dark theme': https://forum.sublimetext.com/t/support-dark-theme-on-windows/48255 https://forum.sublimetext.com/t/support-dark-theme-on-window...
  - ben-schaaf 5y ago
    We overcame that hurdle by painstakingly recreating the default Windows titlebar(s) in our own UI toolkit.
    - thieving_magpie 5y ago
      It's appreciated and looks great.

sigzero 5y ago

Congrats! When the payday hits I will buy it. I've been waiting. I know I could have purchased an ST3 license and got this but...I am weird.

dmitshur 5y ago

Question about license upgrades. The page says: > Note you can upgrade to the bundle from either a Sublime Text or Sublime Merge license. Right now I have a ST3 license and would like to upgrade it to both ST4 and Sublime Merge. If one upgrades to a bundle now, will it be possible in the future to upgrade the bundle license to a single product one? Or is the only option to buy a new single product license instead? (I’m ok with it either way, I just want to find out so I can plan better.)

ben-schaaf 5y ago
Currently you can only upgrade from a bundle to a bundle, but the exact behavior hasn't been fully decided on yet. I'll look into clarifying that.
- dmitshur 5y ago
  Thank you.

PascLeRasc 5y ago

Is there a way to go back to the trapezoid-style tab UI instead of the rounded new Chrome tab UI? I didn't see it in any of the preinstalled themes but maybe there's a flag somewhere.

ben-schaaf 5y ago
Use the `"file_tab_style"` setting. Do note that the older tab styles are missing some features, like highlighting the focused tab.
- PascLeRasc 5y ago
  Thank you! I know this isn't much, but I just bought a license based on this comment. I didn't know it was possible but Sublime 4 feels even faster!

philshem 5y ago

Hi Ben When will ST4 show up on Homebrew? https://formulae.brew.sh/cask/sublime-text https://formulae.brew.sh/cask/sublime-text Thanks for taking the time to answer questions

ben-schaaf 5y ago
We only ship downloads from sublimetext.com. Any other avenues like homebrew, flatpak, etc. are supplied by third parties with no relation to us. Sublime Text on macOS has its down update mechanism that you may prefer over homebrew.
philshem 5y ago
If anyone reads this later, ST4 is now the downloadable from Homebrew

traspler 5y ago

Could it be that you‘ve already been using the new GPU rendering in SublimeMerge but not ST3? That would explain the visual corruption issues I sometimes have with Merge but not ST3. In Merge some actions, sometimes (mostly in the settings) corrupt the application window (sometimes also after minimizing and sleep) on my MacBook. To me it looked like a rendering/GPU issue. It looks like blocks of pixels having different colors, lines shifted, etc.

ben-schaaf 5y ago
Yes we've been shipping the hardware accelerated rendering with Sublime Merge for some time now. A bug report would be welcome (Under Help > Report a Bug)

username3 5y ago

How can I save groups of tabs so side views won’t get lost if I switch to another tab? Edit: ctrl+tab saves, but mouse clicking a tab loses How can I open find results in a split view? How can I open definitions and references in split views without using the mouse to hover and click? Edit: F12 and shift+F12.

blissofbeing 5y ago

Is there any chance you'll be adding support for moving the sidebar to the right? This is the one stopping me from moving back to sublime.

ben-schaaf 5y ago
We do have something on the backburner for this.

gaws 5y ago

Do you use Sublime Text for development?

ben-schaaf 5y ago
I've been using Sublime Text long before I started working. I use it for any code or text related functionality. Of course it's also used internally by everyone working on our products.

Stanzilla 5y ago

If you could say one thing to a person currently using vs code to get them to try sublime, what would that be? It can't be "speed".

db579 5y ago

Would you ever consider a licensing model similar to Cockroach DBs BSL where older versions fall into the public domain/are open sourced once they're no longer revenue generating? Or perhaps once a new major version is out?

ernie24 5y ago

Are there any chances for better Vim mode?