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I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand yes a lot of the tech companies can afford it and probably won't impact the bottom line to keep paying them.
by yibg 6y ago
I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand yes a lot of the tech companies can afford it and probably won't impact the bottom line to keep paying them. On the other hand, why pay the cost if it's not required.
I used to have a cleaner come once every 2 weeks pre covid. That's stopped now and I don't pay them anymore. Should I keep paying them to not come in?
- Apocryphon 6y agoIdeally, the government would have a sufficient relief structure in place to do so. Practically, you already are paying them indirectly through your tax dollars going towards the stimulus and unemployment programs.
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- D895n9o33436N42 6y agoPeople I know in Manhattan are still paying their cleaners even though there’s no more cleaning. These are fewer and fewer as folks permanently decamp from the city.
- tlb 6y agoIt impacts the company's bottom line by an amount precisely equal to their pay, payroll tax, and benefits. Because that's how bottom lines work. They're the summation of all the previous lines, +ve and -ve. Personally, I kept paying my cleaners, because my bottom line isn't that important to me. But it is (and should be) for companies.
- ipaddr 6y agoHaving a trusted cleaning staff available without going through a painful sourcing period can be worth the cost. Long term planning + goodwill and the expensive writeoff make it attractive.
- BobbyJo 6y ago'Can' make it attractive. Even when you consider all of those it may not make sense financially.
- seanmcdirmid 6y agoBut if you don’t have that trusted connection already, there is no reason to keep paying a service for not sending someone over.
- quickthrowman 6y agoAAPL’s recent ~18% decline from ATH is a direct result of this, if they didn’t pay their cleaners to do NOTHING it would not have dropped so much /s
- bittercynic 6y agoI don't know whether you should have kept paying your cleaner, but I have been paying my barber every month even though I haven't had a haircut in over a year. To me it absolutely seems like the right thing to do, but is a little delicate - you have to make sure it doesn't end up feeling like charity.
- banana_giraffe 6y agoI've been buying gift certificates where I can. For my barber, specifically, I had them just give something on a piece of paper since they're a small shop and don't do gift certificates. Not sure it's the best idea in the world, but it's a balance between charity and them giving me something of value.
- Dma54rhs 6y agoWhere you live barbers haven't been able to work whole year? Why and where?
- bittercynic 6y agoThey're open, but I haven't felt safe going.
- asdfasgasdgasdg 6y agoWe are still paying our cleaner even though she does not come. We also paid our nanny when she could not come for twelve or fourteen weeks at the beginning of the pandemic, and again when NYC seemed like it was going to have a large second wave. But we are fairly wealthy and it is not painful for us to do this. This behavior seems pretty typical of my friends in similar income levels.
- gruez 6y ago"tipping" culture strikes again! When the wage for certain service workers is too low, we try to subsidize it by tipping them. Now when the government doesn't provide enough coronavirus relief for service workers, some of us keep them on the payroll as a kind of cornavirus relief.
- lambda_obrien 6y agoThat's a bad thing why? These people are just taking care of the people who take care of them and their kids. It seems logical to me.
- rubicon33 6y agoThe point is that in a politically and economically healthy society, they shouldn't have to.
- lambda_obrien 6y agoI think we know that America isn't healthy in any respect right now. Part of that is we don't think it's necessary to take care of each other.
- animal_spirits 6y agoWell, on one hand at least the money goes directly to the one in need and not through the government as a middle man. There's no department heads or managers of managers to pay in between this transaction.
- presentation 6y agoOne weird thing I notice living here in Japan are how practically everywhere you go there seems to be old people doing useless jobs presumably just to provide dignity - I don’t know the particulars on why that bank is hiring someone to stand all day saying “welcome” to anyone who passes through the door, or the elderly men on construction sites that bow at all who pass, but maybe it’s not as crazy as one thinks.
- pavel_lishin 6y agoSounds pretty close to the Walmart greeters in the US.
- ACow_Adonis 6y agoand this might be unpopular to say, or it might be cultural or classist, but those jobs provide the literal opposite of dignity :( (although I appreciate some of the holders might feel differently).
- pavel_lishin 6y agoMaybe. I honestly don't know. It probably beats staying in your empty home all day, or being relegated to an old folks' home. I hope I can let you know in 50 years.
- watwut 6y agoPeople who are in old peoples home would be in real pain if they had to stand whole day. Physical pain I mean, old peoples home tend to house people whose health is really gpong down.
- astrange 6y agoIt might be better than booking a doctor appointment every day because you have no one to talk to, which happens with the NHS.
- nemothekid 6y ago
- christkv 6y agoWe kept paying our cleaner when we were in lock down because we can afford to and we know she needs the money.