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Young female Japanese biker is 50-year-old man using FaceApp
- jeffnv 6y agoHe’s got great hair.
- goldcd 6y agoNot very hackery - but that was my prominent thought at the end of the article. I mean maybe there is a tech point, that hair has historically been a pretty hard thing to model, so I'd presume hard to correct with a filter - so maybe its his luscious locks that helped sell the ruse (and I'll need to wait another few years to have my hairline pseudo-restored)
- Karawebnetwork 6y agoFaceApp also has a hair filter. You can change the color, make it curly, longer, etc. In fact, it's popular in the transgender community. People can experiment with their new gender identity with a few clicks. You can transform a bald masculine figure into a soft model with long hair that retains some of your bone structure (and vice versa). Here is a tweet of one such transformation done on an actor using a stack of FaceApp filters: https://twitter.com/KaiqueBanks/status/1276185681660968961 https://twitter.com/KaiqueBanks/status/1276185681660968961 Here's the ad for the hairs feature: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=600497397462983 https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=600497397462983 (Apologies for linking to Facebook, it seems that they only advertise features there.)
- aspaviento 6y agoI've seen also very realistic wigs in a Japanese video so it could be fake too.
- tpmx 6y agoPerhaps he's been using Christopher Walken's technique of pulling on your own hair for five minutes every morning to encourage blood circulation in your scalp? :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czK6ReYbaTk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czK6ReYbaTk (Conan, 1m43s)
- eplanit 6y agoThere should be a Catfishing award created and given to this guy. His motives were really very innocent, which adds to the beauty of the ruse.
- Karawebnetwork 6y agoIt is catfishing if it's not done to get something out of a specific victim?
- ed25519FUUU 6y agoIn this case it’s attention.
- dheera 6y agoIf he actually catfished I don't support it, but I feel like if he was doing it only for attention it's not such a bad thing. After all yes if you're an old guy people will discriminate against you in who they follow, and among other things, he just exposed that fact for the world to realize.
- boublepop 6y agoIf using a filter to improve your looks to gain attention is categorized as catfishing, then suddenly every single celebrity and model is in that category. The guy changed his looks using a filter, it’s nothing that haven’t been done to death by the kardashians. The novel element here is just the sharp contrast between his before and after personas.
- sn_master 6y agoIt's more than just enhancing appearance for the heterosexual males who watched his content...
- Karawebnetwork 6y agoEverything in the photo is real except for the facial appearance. This is simply a bike rider and his bike travelling across Japan while taking selfies. Mistaking it for a bike rider and her bike should not change much. If an heterosexual man pleased himself while watching that totally safe for work content, it's on him and no one else. The body did not even change and the photos are not suggestive at all.
- analog31 6y agoGreat idea for an A/B test.
- goldcd 6y agoWhy just A/B? Could generate trees of filters applied to your content, with a separate channel output on each leaf. Breed the filters that work, kill off the ones that don't get the clicks. SEO for your appearance.
- Karawebnetwork 6y agoAt that point you'd be better served using generated humans https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/digital-humans https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/digital-humans
- IncRnd 6y agoI approach the Internet as - you are all digital humans. You've passed, but not all digital humans have passed the Turing Test.
- dinglefairy 6y agoI'd hit it
- SamBam 6y agoWhat really worries me about the DeepFakes stuff is not so much the fakes -- I'm worried about that, but that's been written about to death -- but that now it adds plausible deniability to anyone caught on camera doing anything. If we had video footage of, say, a politician doing something clearly illegal on camera, then it's simply the word of the politician against the word of the source -- the latter of whom may need to remain anonymous. That said... the other way around is still the more dangerous, I guess. If, say, a US adversary creates a great-looking video of the US president doing/saying something really heinous, that has the potential to inflame the world long before the truth can get its boots on.
- keiferski 6y agoPersonally I think this might be a good thing. The alternative is a squeaky clean politician that has no character, mistakes, or experiences. > I guess. If, say, a US adversary creates a great-looking video of the US president doing/saying something really heinous, that has the potential to inflame the world long before the truth can get its boots on. By the time this becomes possible, it will be widespread knowledge that deepfakes exist.
- SamBam 6y agoIt's already possible. Look at the Tom Cruise deepfakes. It just requires the power to get a great actor of similar build, and lots of processing power, both of which are within the reach of a state, easily. And I don't think knowing the deepfakes exists will convince everyone. Plenty of fake photos already get passed around on Facebook and what-not, even though Photoshop has existed for decades.
- Majestic121 6y agoEven with widespread knowledge that deepfakes exists, you can still make credible videos of people that damages them. For example, picture a video of Trump saying in private committee 'I want to fuck that nigress'. That would be extremely heinous, and probably be a fake, but can you be 100% sure from a president that also said 'grab them by the pussy' ? The line between real and fake news is becoming more and more tenuous.
- optimalsolver 6y agoReminds me of Gay Girl In Damascus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Gay_Girl_In_Damascus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Gay_Girl_In_Damascus Fun fact, the lesbian girl who outed him also turned out to be a middle-aged dude.
- slibhb 6y agoSee also: https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2021/03/krug-carrillo-dolezal-social-munchausen-syndrome/618289/ https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2021/03/kr...
- jodrellblank 6y agohttps://knowyourmeme.com/memes/there-are-no-girls-on-the-internet https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/there-are-no-girls-on-the-int... - "there are no girls on the internet" meme/trope dates back to Usenet 1992 [then again, why believe that 50 year old man photo is the person's real face or hair? Surely media photos have been Photoshopped since long before face-swapping apps?]
- dr-smooth 6y agoit is damn nice hair for a 50 year old...
- wayanon 6y agoI hope there's a young female Japanese biker using a 50-year-old man's face on their instagram posts.
- bitwize 6y agoAh, Japan, where even middle-aged men want to be cute girls. I'm reminded of a few years ago when a popular "female" Vtuber let his motion capture software slip and accidentally revealed his face as that of a middle-aged otaku. Since then I guess there's been an acceptance of kayfabe among Vtuber stans.
- Tade0 6y agoHololive seemed to have completely bypassed the problem by creating completely fictional characters voiced by... someone.
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- swayvil 6y agoThis guy is a Prometheus. He deserves to star in many future cartoons and memes.
- wccrawford 6y agoI'm not buying it. Notice that the girl's hair covers her ear in different ways each time, so it can't be her hair and ear, it has to be his. But her hair doesn't actually match his hair. So that's not it, either. These shows are all about shock, and I wouldn't be surprised if they were fooled as well.
- Cthulhu_ 6y agoThe faceapp thing does hair as well though. It's probably less jarring if it has 'close' hair to work with to begin with.
- feintruled 6y agoI wonder too - last time I tried faceapp it did a very convincing gender swap on me, but the face changed significantly with every photo I took - depending on angle, lighting, who knows? I began to suspect to wasn't making 'me' into a woman at all, just superimposing a female face that fit. (One of the best transforms actually looked like my wife, which was a moment for Freudian reflection). Anyway, unless faceapp has improved a lot, I'm sceptical this guy was always able to show as the same 'person'.
- JacobSuperslav 6y agofaceapp has improved A LOT. also there is a paid version with more functions
- dorkwood 6y agoMaybe the "reflection" they used to catch him was the fake, and all the others are real.
- fudged71 6y agoWow leave the guy alone. Is this any different from ‘exposing’ a cross dresser etc?
- NikolaeVarius 6y agoThe rise of normies on the internet has shown that they have forgotten the cardinal rule of the internet. No one is who they say they are.
- pbhjpbhj 6y agoI'm hoping it ends up the 50yo is also a fake ... I'm not saying I wouldn't be fooled, but the female face looks too smooth to me, not in a make-up way but in a post-processed separately to the rest of the image way (doesn't appear to have the noise that the rest of the image does?).
- lotsofpulp 6y agoThat’s how most of Snapchat/Instagram and other selfies look to me. I assume whatever app people are using are all creating “fake” pictures smoothing their skin and whatnot.
- dorkwood 6y agoA lot of phones now come with this feature in the default camera app. I had a family member uploading group photos that all had smoothing applied to our skin. They said it made us look better. I found it offensive.
- mywittyname 6y agoEspecially since it just makes you look "worse" by comparison in real life. I've actually had this happen to me: meeting a friend I've only seen online for the better part of 10 years. My brain stalled upon seeing them because I knew who they were, but they just look so much worse than their pictures.
- Cthulhu_ 6y agoNobody's surprised by that anymore though; skin care and makeup hides a lot of sin, and photo filters are commonplace. /r/instagramreality has a LOT of that.
- LudwigNagasena 6y agoLots of people post-process their photos, especially female influencers who use their beauty to attract subscribers.
- JoeAltmaier 6y agoMaybe it's the power of suggestion, but the photos looked instantly fake to me. In any case, it seems fair that a person represent their online image any way they like. Who's to say how this man 'identifies'? He does.
- mkl95 6y agoThis goes to show how dangerous deep fakes can be when people are willing to believe. Several people had called him out already, and they had provided evidence, but thousands of people still believed he was a young woman.
- NikolaeVarius 6y agoWhy does anyone care
- JoeAltmaier 6y agoSo? That's the point. He is what he represents himself to be. Not what we want him to be.
- mkl95 6y ago> The man reportedly said that nobody wants to see an "uncle", and so, he turned himself into a "beautiful woman" so that his photos would be popular. He self identifies as a 50 year old man. He admits that he just did it for attention near the end of the article.
- parliament32 6y agoIt's worth noting that crypto-signed images have been around for a long time, just in specific professional cameras: https://www.dpreview.com/articles/3146736527/canondvke2 https://www.dpreview.com/articles/3146736527/canondvke2 I imagine, as this sort of thing becomes more common, we'll see image "verification"/signing being a feature on all cameras, and eventually extend to mobile phone cameras for photos/videos as well.
- CharlesW 6y agoThat's cool, but it seems like building a trusted chain of custody from source/capture, to editing (where lots of assets will be combined/composited together), to distribution will be tricky. Plus, how does one guarantee that light hitting the camera sensor hasn't already been manipulated?
- de6u99er 6y agoIMO this would just help someone prove that a certain original image was made with a specific camera in regards of IP and to protect themselves at court against claims of having tampered with an image. What we see on the web are mostly resized and heavily compressed images. Not sure how such a cryptographic signature could work in such cases.
- poundofshrimp 6y agoPerhaps the publisher can provide a collection of signed versions of the image with a variety of file sizes / resolutions.
- bennyp101 6y agoAnd once it has been shared, screen-shotted, re-shared, compressed, phone taking a picture of it on a monitor etc Sure, if you want to use it to try and prove you did take/create an image of something, but it doesn't help prove you /didn't/
- yosito 6y agoI think there would be some potential for an photo-based journalism platform that only publishes crypto-signed geo-tagged photos. It seems that stock photos, and even fake photos are the norm on mainstream news sites these days. It's very hard to get verified photographic evidence of news stories.
- Sunspark 6y agoThe real singularity will be when one can have realtime deepfake video of themselves making trap porn.
- Pfhreak 6y agoFYI, you've used a slur -- Tr*p is a slur for transgender folks often used in association with porn. You may want to either clarify your meaning (in case you are using the word in a different meaning) or choose a different word.
- Sunspark 6y agoI am specifically referencing it in the porn fetish context which is accurate, especially when identifying the logical evolution of faceapp. I would not use this word in any other context, and in fact, cannot use another word in the porn fetish context because there are no non-offensive words to describe the fetish which I am aware of at the current time. Apologies to anyone who may have felt offended, this was not my wish and there is a very clear difference between a person and a fetish.
- the-dude 6y agoOn the internet, nobody knows you're a dog [ 1993 ] [ 1993 ] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Internet,_nobody_knows_you%27re_a_dog https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Internet,_nobody_knows_...
- balozi 6y ago[2021] On the internet, it doesn't matter that you are a dog
- devoutsalsa 6y agoThanks goodness. I was getting nervous. Have a good Friday everyone, I'm feeling a little shaggy, so I'm off to the groomer, er, barber.
- johncessna 6y ago> [2021] On the internet, it doesn't matter that you are a dog Wishful thinking. A cursory glance at twitter or facebook will show you that it very much matters what tribe you're from.
- cwkoss 6y agoReminds me of a mousepad my dad received as am early customer of Amazon. "Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."
- kuu 6y agoLikes are more important than the fact of sharing your experience, therefore tricks are used
- yCombLinks 6y agoYou're not sharing your experience if there's no-one to share it with.
- mrweasel 6y agoPerhaps the main issue is that the guy has a point, nobody want’s to see an uncle. The majority of “influencers” are young women, and only a minority would want to follow a 50 year old uncle. I don’t think there’s much we can do about it, it’s human nature. It does however limit the diversity and world views people are exposed to and sometimes it’s nice to see the world through the eyes of a 50 year Japanese biker.
- war1025 6y ago> The majority of “influencers” are young women, and only a minority would want to follow a 50 year old uncle. One interesting side effect of this is that some of the most popular male YouTube channels I follow never show the host's face. Everything is carefully staged to only show their hands / body.
- NikolaeVarius 6y agoIts strange because random old people channels produce great content. Its just that, most of them don't try to be annoying influencers. I follow some old dude who repairs his motorcycle and writes music. He doesnt talk, and its great.
- mrweasel 6y agoI follow some guy in France who restore random stuff, he doesn’t talk and there’s no music, it’s fantastic.
- antihero 6y agoIt's so refreshing to have content that is actually just good content and isn't some trainwreck of seeking attention from an increasingly more vapid audience.
- rchaud 6y agoVery true. I came across a channel run by a 60 something man where he sits in his music room, puts on a record and talks about what that piece of music means to him, when he first heard it. I usually don't watch the whole video as it can get a bit dry, but otherwise it is nice to just see someone expressing themself without shilling their Patreon or using clickbait thumbnails and titles like the more commercial "personal" channels do.
- berniemadoff69 6y agoloud auto-playing audio as soon as you open the site
- mosselman 6y agoThe discussion here is a lot about 'deep fakes' and where will we be if we can't distinguish fake from real, but this is so obviously fake that I fear we might not care at all. Even if it were a real young woman, why would anyone look at those obviously fake images? It is like someone from the 90s used paint to paste a random image on some random biker's head. Also, why go through the trouble of having that hair and a real bike to begin with if the audience's sense for what is real is so low? You might as well take random images of empty parking lots and copy paste random bikes with random bodies and a young Japanese woman's face on them and it would look the same or better.
- soared 6y agoThey look convincing enough to me. And if I saw one while scrolling Instagram, where I see ~3 images a second I definitely wouldn’t notice.
- tibbydudeza 6y agoWell there goes celebrity news sites like TMZ. Maybe it is good thing , remember that song from a few years bacl "it wasn't me" is now a rather a plausible excuse.
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- nabla9 6y agoMaybe the first casualty of AI is Instagram influencers and nude models.
- anotheryou 6y agoA great freedom :). Reminds me of harroway's cyborg manifesto. It's not an exact match, but interesting to read along this phenomenon: > Cyborg imagery can suggest a way out of the maze of dualisms in which we have explained our bodies and our tools to ourselves. This is a dream not of a common language, but of a powerful infidel heteroglossia. It is an imagination of a feminist speaking in tongues to strike fear into the circuits of the supersavers of the new right. It means both building and destroying machines, identities, categories, relationships, space stories. Though both are bound in the spiral dance, I would rather be a cyborg than a goddess. He of course chose the goddess, but still breaks the gender dualism and got rid of his age.
- yosito 6y agoThe only Instagram influencers I follow are people I know in real life. So I know that the people are real. But even then, the content they post is often framed in an unrealistic way and sometimes outright fake or edited. I know this because I've traveled with them, and seen the real side of all of the same things that they post about. I can understand why people find Instagram influencers entertaining, especially the ones that appear to be attractive women. It's obviously entertaining enough that it's a realistic career option for many attractive women. But to me, believing that what you see on Instagram is real life is like someone in the 90s believing that tabloid newspapers at grocery store checkout aisles were real life. We should all know better.
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- gcheong 6y agoMy cynical take on this is that eventually ageism in tech won't be a thing with the combination of wfh and everyone being a young 20 something tech person online.
- zabardasth 6y agoWhy not pseudoanonymous / anonymous identities that work together on a decentralized platform like Urbit? The corporation is obsolete. DAOs will be the future.
- puchatek 6y agoThis meaning of "uncle" should make it into mainstream english.
- keenreed 6y agoThis is just plain transphobia. Person used filters and makeup to make themselfs look better and younger. This never ever happened before! OMG, call the police!!!!!
- blitz_skull 6y agoHow is this transphobia?
- keenreed 6y agoBecause it does not make HN frontpage when "normal" woman uses Instagram filters.
- Pfhreak 6y agoGenuine attempt to answer: It's seen as humorous or weird that a man would want to appear to be a young woman. It's unclear in this case whether the person being photographed is trans. This article is not a tech demo or deep dive, it's gawking at a man "pretending" to be a woman. It reinforces the idea that trans women are just men "pretending" to be women. It's not too many steps removed from something like Ace Ventura, which went out of its way to explicitly frame trans women as "gross". Yes, over time media has gotten a little less explicit about this, but there's definitely a long tail of media that's like, "Look at this weird trans/trans-adjacent person over here..."
- marknutter 6y agoI think the number of people out there who see this and relate it to trans people is vanishingly small.
- Pfhreak 6y agoIs that due to education? Lack of understanding of the trans experience? Given that the number of trans people out there is already fairly small (single digit percentages), I wouldn't expect trans awareness to be wide. Especially internationally.
- tziki 6y agoHonestly, good for him. I don't see any reason why the whole influencer culture should be dominated by specific people just because they're lucky to have the prerequisite looks.
- augustocallejas 6y agoWith this clear example of separation between individual and identity, it calls into question the need for real celebrities. What difference does it make if you're watching/following someone real/digital? https://www.thecut.com/2018/05/lil-miquela-digital-avatar-instagram-influencer.html https://www.thecut.com/2018/05/lil-miquela-digital-avatar-in...
- scollet 6y agoIirc Gorillaz and Vocaloids were massively successful experiments in this domain. I think some of the critique in the former was lost (i.e. Weezer), but it definitely opened the gates for popular digital avatars.
- dharmab 6y ago"Hololive" is another example. They're all real people, but using digital appearances and personas.
- mhh__ 6y agoThere is a streamer who has a very expensive live tracking setup who actually streams entirely from inside (what is basically) a game emulating a stream room. The content itself isn't really my cup of tea, but the visuals are already beyond the uncanny valley. https://www.ginx.tv/en/twitch/who-is-code-miko-the-virtual-streamer-that-will-blow-your-mind https://www.ginx.tv/en/twitch/who-is-code-miko-the-virtual-s...
- henearkr 6y agoDid he want to make the promotion of bikes and biking at any cost? I have to testify that in Japan there is a wave of fashion and TV celebrities affecting a public discourse of "oh no the Japanese industry will be soon dying because of the push for electrification of all vehicles!". Also, most of the loud (and very suffocating, when they zoom past you) bikers near my home are either old men (like this man) or in some cases their children. Was this Youtuber trying to do his best to save the youth's interest in motorbikes? I would really like to see these kind of bikes fade into oblivion, instead of being promoted to youngsters through "deep fake young idols" Youtube channels.
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- davesque 6y agoThere's an interesting train of thought that could follow from this. I've been trying to figure out what could eventually enable people to realize that most of what they see on the internet is entirely made up (or could be). Perhaps nothing would make this more clear than considering that literally any face or persona you see on social media could be entirely fictional. For example, in light of this Japanese biker uncle story, how could you ever really feel confident about dating online? And if you didn't, what's the alternative? Well, if you still trust your own eyes, there's always the physical world.
- poundofshrimp 6y agoI feel like dating online is a blind shot in so many ways. Good news is that if the person lied about their looks, then you know it’s not a match!
- rantwasp 6y agoi am not even mad. this is amazing. now i’m gonna follow the dude. deal with it :))
- anticristi 6y agoI'm starting the .true TLD. Everything else on the Internet should be considered fantasy.
- renewiltord 6y agoMakes sense. It's a performance. I don't get upset that Sir Patrick Stewart can't actually telepathically communicate with all of Earth.
- wly_cdgr 6y ago:shrug:...would still hit
- draugadrotten 6y agoCounting 215 comments and nobody quoted Neil Stephenson yet. The books are worth reading, dear young ones. "The people are pieces of software called avatars. They are the audiovisual bodies that people use to communicate with each other in the Metaverse. ... Your avatar can look any way you want it to, up to the limitations of your equipment. If you're ugly, you can make your avatar beautiful. If you've just gotten out of bed, your avatar can still be wearing beautiful clothes and professionally applied makeup. You can look like a gorilla or a dragon or a giant talking penis in the Metaverse. Spend five minutes walking down the Street and you will see all of these."
- decafninja 6y agoMale or female, if you're very good looking, you probably could achieve some degree of success as a social media "influencer" these days. As people have said, thus is human nature since forever. With the rise of digital avatars that are testing the limits of photorealism, I'm wondering if your actual physical appearance starts to become less of a limiting factor for things like this though. Heck, there is now an entire K-pop idol girl group launching composed entirely of digital characters. While not 100% perfect, I'm shocked at how realistic they look and act: https://www.koreaboo.com/news/ai-kpop-girl-group-deep-real-a https://www.koreaboo.com/news/ai-kpop-girl-group-deep-real-a...
- cwkoss 6y agoIt seems like his motivation was primarily increased online engagement. As human socialization occurs increasingly in digital spaces, will be interesting to see if there is a rise in trans people who only wish to transition using technology without wanting to change their own analog physical appearance. Similarly, I wonder if there are remote workers who use filters like these to consistently present an idealized version of themselves professionally. I predict within the next 20 years, having an avatar that is more attractive than your true physical form will become normalized. Perhaps some middle aged people will only present as their 20 year old selves online. I'm sure transracial avatars will be a controversial issue. Maybe I should short cosmetics and go long on GPU manufacturing.
- tommoor 6y ago> Perhaps some middle aged people will only present as their 20 year old selves online. Oh, this for sure is already happening. A lot of people's profile pictures (for example on twitter) are frozen in time some 10 years ago.
- freeflight 6y ago> I predict within the next 20 years, having an avatar that is more attractive than your true physical form will become normalized. That's already pretty normalized looking at how even a lot of older generations are carefully curating their social media presences to make them look as perfect and impressive as possible.
- yabadubakta 6y agoI think this is pretty awesome. He was able to create a real avatar and go out there doing something he loved and share it with the world pseudonymously! Identity in our increasingly virtual reality can take on many turns.
- megous 6y agoAny guesses if FitGirl is also a 50-year old guy (or two) that's just very much into compression/repacking? :)
- RocketOne 6y agoSo, essentially he catfished 16,000 followers.
- bahmboo 6y ago50? Sure bro :) another level of fun.
- Abishek_Muthian 6y agoI wonder what happens when an update changes the filter and the person couldn't generate the same face again.
- smadge 6y agoNEO: Right now, we're inside a computer program? MORPHEUS: Is it really so hard to believe? Your clothes are different, the plugs in your arms and head are gone, your hair has changed. Your appearance now is what we call 'residual self-image'. It is the mental projection of your digital self. NEO: This... this isn't real? MORPHEUS: What is 'real'? How do you define 'real'? If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see, then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain. This is the world that you know.
- runawaybottle 6y agoIgnorance is bliss.
- blitz_skull 6y agoUmm.. Excuse my ignorance—but—my understanding was that a trans woman IS just a man pretending to be a woman?
- Pfhreak 6y agoEnglish may not be your first language? I think you have perhaps unintentionally said something extremely offensive. Trans women are women. Trans women were born men, but they are not pretending.
- Minor49er 6y agoYou accuse the other poster of not understanding English, then say that trans women are not men pretending to be women. Yet "pretend" means "to give a false appearance of being, possessing, or performing." You even said yourself that they were born men. They can't change their gender so they pretend, sometimes even going to extreme and dangerous lengths to do so.
- Pfhreak 6y agoTrans women are "assigned male at birth", ie, the adults around them make a decision about their gender and assign 'male'. Trans women are not "performing being women", and frankly the suggestion that they are is unacceptable. Trans women are women, full stop.
- Minor49er 6y agoIf it's the decision of adults, then when do they assign babies their X chromosomes? You still haven't explained what it is that makes it possible for a man to turn into a woman. I don't think anyone believes that Rachel Dolezal is a black women, even though she pretends that she is. Is that somehow different?
- blitz_skull 6y agoNo, English is my first language. Last I checked with the science, you’re born either male or female. If you’ve got a mental disease that makes you feel like you “should” be a different gender, how does that magically make you ACTUALLY that gender? I also don’t understand how this is offensive. It’s pretty much biology 101.
- ape4 6y agoHe actually has pretty good cheek bones
- colordrops 6y agoHave you all been following the green screened Biden interview? Watch the light grey mic - Biden's hand can't decide if it wants to be in front or behind the mic. Something weird is going on: https://twitter.com/i/events/1372500525346820099 https://twitter.com/i/events/1372500525346820099 An army of "fact checkers" has been dispatched for damage control.
- rfreiberger 6y agoI'm just here for the two stroke that we never got in the states. :(
- ChuckMcM 6y agoThat is a fun take on "projection." :-) I expect to see a lot more of this with the wide availability of GAN driven image networks that can change faces/voices etc. Its like autotune for looks. Given how he was found I expect a software update that removes an person image in a mirror making them effectively vampires :-). For the youngsters in the crowd, we used to have these phone numbers you could call where you could be connected with a "sexy woman who would talk to you and fantasize with you." Guess what, the only requirement for the job was "sexy voice" not actually being all that sexy. Poor chaps paying $1/minute to have phone sex with 45 - 50 year old women who not only have sexy voices but know a thing or two about sex. "Influencers" are, as a money making entity, in the same genus as phone sex, product salespeople, and actors. They are there to create an attractive illusion that increases sales/market activity around an attached product.
- the-dude 6y agoIs there an English equivalent to the Dutch saying you need to learn on an old bike ?
- freeflight 6y ago> Guess what, the only requirement for the job was "sexy voice" not actually being all that sexy. As I remember it, not even that was a requirement. In Germany a lot of these services ran the ads in a dual way: The big number advertised was for men to call and cost money, and then somewhere in the corner was a number that was free to call for women. They didn't really screen that women number, teenage boy me had no problems at all getting connected to poor guys paying per minute, anybody could just call there as long as their voice sounded high-pitched/female enough.
- dukeofdoom 6y agoIsn't there already controversy if this is being currently used in the Biden administration. The guy hasn't been seen with reporters. The last time he answered questions the microphone seemingly passed through his hand. And there's also a video of his election victory in front of a parking lot of staged cars. With a screen playing his address, while the podium is empty. He's getting the nickname C.G.I Joe.
- JacobSuperslav 6y agoget help
- dukeofdoom 6y agoLook into it. The guy was just steps away from being a ghost today. Is he really senile enough to be at these events without a little CGI magic help between naps. The last few months have been more than bizarre.
- colordrops 6y agoYou are implying someone is mentally ill which I believe is against HN's rules, and in any case is a failure on your part. Watch the video before making immature comments, then decide: https://twitter.com/i/events/1372500525346820099 https://twitter.com/i/events/1372500525346820099 Watch the light grey mic - Biden's hands can't decide if they want to be behind or in front of the mics. There is clearly editing going on. We aren't talking about reptilian aliens running the government - video editing is not some supernatural phenomenon.
- JacobSuperslav 6y agoI'm not saying they are mentally ill. I'm saying they seem disturbed, and would probably benefit from some kind of counseling and staying away from Internet discussions and politics.
- njharman 6y agoAlmost to the point were this is not newsworthy. As in its so common, expected, and not novel. Like it’s not a major story when someone is found driving without insurance.
- rodolphoarruda 6y agoMy wife owns a wedding dress shop. She uses up to 25% of her time to produce content for social media. One day she decided to mix/merge her face with Jennifer Aniston's and that was a game changer for the business in terms of audience engagement.
- JacobSuperslav 6y agowhat app did you use to change it?
- rodolphoarruda 6y agoFaceApp Here is a sample. https://www.instagram.com/p/CMKWQ6QFH6a/ https://www.instagram.com/p/CMKWQ6QFH6a/
- cjohansson 6y agoInteresting phenomena. I don't see any issues with it really. Many influencers do plastic surgery and other modifications to themselves to be more popular, this is a healthier alternative
- cm2187 6y agoYou will soon need a computer science degree with a major in deep fake detection to use online dating safely
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- nomdep 6y agoAt some point soon(ish), deep fakes like this are going to end the porn industry, including Only Fans, in its current form. Is going to be replaced at by computer-rendered photos/videos, some voice actors and a group of interns answering the chat.
- wruza 6y agoCan’t say that thread is missing the point, but he doesn’t look like a young girl, because what you see is not a young girl either. It is a simulation of what a young girl would look like if she applied a ton of made up makeup (hence the word) to look attractive. If you’re asking yourself why females tend to have more followers than males, and males get more followers when disguised as a female, remember that the “attractive” part is neither female nor male, not even human. It is our notion of perfect attractiveness that is completely made up and females exploited that since forever because sexual behavior asymmetry (women attract, men approach). In a world without makeup, uv filters, clothes and odor deception, almost everyone is a red uncle biker.
- 01100011 6y agoThis is awesome. Just imagine how many radio stars wouldn't have been killed by video if this were around in the 80s. Seriously, the world is full of talented performers, but they lack the look or image that the entertainment industry demands. I look forward to seeing how this progresses.
- cambalache 6y agoThere is a closing window of opportunity to make bank creating machine-learning generated girls and a farm of onlyfans accounts. Plenty of young (and not-so-young) men are paying to simulate even the slightest semblance of a relationship with a member of the opposite sex. In 10 years or so when distinguishing fake from real will be almost impossible expect the value of those accounts to plummet and a return to more ancient forms of transacting beauty and sex for money.
- nano-erud 6y agoThe only thing that worries me about all this is that so many people have thought that those photos were real when they are clearly false, they have many symmetrical and light imperfections. It worries me how people are losing perception and can't tell the real from the unreal. Those filters aren't that perfect yet.
- aaron695 6y agoThis is probably tied to his sexuality. Not sure if the Woke crowd have organised an outrage yet. But it's something to think about. Woke people are evil which unfortunately means we've stopped a lot of forward or intelligent thinking, which we shouldn't do. I think when you publish publicly you lose certain rights. And that's what Twitter users are, mini newspapers. So I don't mind him/her, him and her, being outed. But it's also interesting to think about. Avatar rights and our relationship to our avatars. It's hard to understand yet what all this means. Or what's going on here. Maybe it was for money. If you like reading fiction, Claire Norths 'Touch' really makes you think what is life without a body. Her stuff is quite novel.
- totetsu 6y agoHow is this different from the entire Japanese mediascape? 50 year old men paying young women to say their words.
- xyst 6y agocatfishing to a whole new level
- bromuro 6y agothis story is very cute as are cute both of the ladies. interesting she has been depicting such a character and sure many followers where intrigued by it. i hope she did not run into problems for such innocent play.
- anonytrary 6y agoIf this man was creating 3D anime girls and had a 3D anime girl account, would it be really any different? An old man creating a fantasy for young men, either way. Honestly, this man is brilliant. He's old, leaving this world soon, and is capitalizing on what people want to see. I commend this man. That said, I think cat-fishing is not cool if you're actually playing with people's hearts. If he's DM-ing people wanting to meet up, then it starts getting weird.
- a0-prw 6y agoHe's definitely prettier as a girl.
- o_p 6y agoBrilliant, I dont see nothing wrong with this, he just gives the people what the people wants to see, its like getting mad that some tv shows are fake, its all entertainment folks. The steak is virtual and its tasty :)
- iamleppert 6y agoThe latest state of the art convolution networks can fully handle occlusions as well as reflections. FaceApp needs to upgrade their tech.