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Irrelevant. Most of the original users of /r/theDonald migrated theDonald.win, which became one of the top websites in the US in terms of traffic. They're behi

• throwaway47981 6y ago
  > one of the top websites in the US in terms of traffic There's something odd going on with their traffic. I've been on the front page of Reddit and thedonald.win at the same time, and either virtually nobody on that site reads the articles or the upvotes counts are being massively inflated: the upvote to pageview ratio is waaaay lower on thedonald.win then I've experienced on Reddit and HN.
• Diederich 6y ago
  > please don't judge me I'll say it out loud: though I despise Trump and mourn the damage he and those enabling have caused, I spend more time online looking at pro-Trump, conservative and Republican focused material than anything else. I downvote none of it, even the legit crazy/scary stuff, and in the rare cases I comment, it's carefully worded to be neutral or even sometimes conciliatory, though always honest. It scares me that many people feel the need to apologize for openly admitting that they looked at material from 'the other side'. More often, people will refrain from posting their actual, perhaps nuanced views entirely, due to the fear of being judged/attacked/whatever. Didn't Paul Graham write an essay about that? My wife was writing a research essay to present to our local Toastmasters group, which she is a relatively new member of. She was going over the talk with one of the senior members, one on one, on zoom, and she mentioned, in passing, that our family is going to delay getting the Covid19 vaccine a couple of months, because we've been exercising (essentially) phase 0 (extreme) lockdown consistently since last March. We can do that because we're blessed with the ability to work and (for our son) go to school from home. The person my wife mentioned this to just lost her shit, and went into a verbal rampage about how to delay getting the vaccine is akin to being an anti-vaxer, how it was immoral to not get it as soon as humanly possible. To be clear: If any of me, my wife or son came into contact with other human beings with any frequency, we'd get the vaccine as soon as possible. We're not afraid of it. But others need it before we do. However, that 'nuance' was entirely lost in an emotional, knee-jerk reaction which reminds me of so many other things we see today. Was there voter fraud in the 2020 US presidential election? I'd bet my life on it; that there was at least a single single incident of fraud. Did that fraud in any way change the outcome of the election? Of course not. Apologies for the tangent. I want to encourage everyone to consider looking carefully, deeply and compassionately at what 'the other side' writes and says. It's not easy to do, but I believe it's a necessary, critical work that all of us need to honestly engage in.
  • razius 6y ago
    What kind of political governance doesn't take kindly to any opposing views and doesn't tolerate debates?
    • eeZah7Ux 6y ago
      Authoritarianism in general. However, the paradox of tolerance fully applies.
      • razius 6y ago
        I always see the paradox mentioned, at what percentage the tolerant actually flips to become the intolerant?
        • Diederich 6y ago
          Are you asking, at what percentage DO the tolerant actually flip to become the intolerant? This is a good question, though probably impossible to answer with any precision. I fear that it happens a lot more frequently than most people are willing to admit.
      • razius 6y ago
        Eg. The nazis could argue to themselves that they are just getting rid of the intolerant.
  • ddingus 6y ago
    Well said. It is hard work too. Quality post. Thanks for it.
• de6u99er 6y ago
  Clodflade is protecting quite a lot of shady and terrorist websites/forums. I bet they are violating multiple (inter)national laws since years.
• slaymaker1907 6y ago
  Ironic that their guy was the one behind the attacks on net neutrality. Might have helped in their case with their ISP.
  • PontifexMinimus 6y ago
    A smart Republican would nave realised that big internet companies are against him, and would have made plans accordingly. If Trump had been competent, he wouldn't have attacked net neutrality, he would have said net neutrality is a wonderful idea, and extended it to other layers of the protocol stack. He would also have got on board when people like Elizabeth Warren talked about breaking up Facebook and Amazon.
• tdons 6y ago
  Isn’t it strange that you have to make a disclaimer like “please don’t judge me?”. Quite literally 1/2 of the USA voted for Trump, should you automatically be ashamed of that? (It’s easy for me to say ofc, I have no horse in this race)
  • typon 6y ago
    There are plenty of Trump voters (Republicans in general) who would actually find the contents of that website abhorrent. I would say these people represent a minority (albeit a large one) of Trump supporters.
    • mywittyname 6y ago
      Which is fine when the leader in question ignores those minority opinions. The problem here is that the leader is going out of his way to specifically engage and this minority group by committing as many atrocities as possible.
  • dragonwriter 6y ago
    > Quite literally 1/2 of the USA voted for Trump No, they didn't.
    • VBprogrammer 6y ago
      Approximately 23% of the US population voted for him. Typically I don't like this arguement, the rest of the population would probably have voted along much the same proportions as those who did.
      • tstrimple 6y ago
        I don't think this is true. It's been shown over and over again that the more people who vote, the more likely Republicans are to lose the election. This is why Republicans have gone all in on their disenfranchisement efforts.
      • dragonwriter 6y ago
• elicash 6y ago
  "delete certain posts" Presumably violent threats?
  • FalconSensei 6y ago
    Guess a lot of racist stuff, based on things I saw on Twitter
  • typon 6y ago
    Yea, specifically advocating for the Capitol building riots on Jan 6th
  • jakearmitage 6y ago
    Is it OK to silence people now?
    • gruez 6y ago
      Actually yes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imminent_lawless_action https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imminent_lawless_action. Not saying what happened on /r/donaldtrump actually met that criteria (that's up to a court to decide), but the precedent to silence people (by the government no less) is definitely there.
      • jakearmitage 6y ago
        So you are against the freedom of speech principle?
        • afuchs 6y ago
          Is everything supposed to be black and white? Following the arguments put forth in the rest of this thread, it is possible to support free speech while still arguing for exceptions and being against free speech absolutism. Such an argument against an entire whole does not logically follow from the given argument that specific exception should be made.
        • gruez 6y ago
• gfodor 6y ago
  Same. I've long worried lurking there was going to cause more harm than it's worth (for example, by letting me inadvertently slip into extremism) but the ability to predict what happened this week so easily and warn people about it who considered going was well worth that risk. Also I read there they are losing their SSL cert or something, so that might be how centralized, non-legal authority manages to shut them down. (Which, it probably goes without saying, should scare the shit out of anyone who cares about the principles of the free Internet.)
  • renewiltord 6y ago
    As in let's encrypt is going to blacklist their domain? Sounds unlikely. It doesn't really matter. If this starts being a problem, we'll use a decentralized web of trust for SSL. It doesn't have to be centralized.
    • gfodor 6y ago
      Yeah I'll admit I didn't follow it completely and didn't care enough to investigate. I'm sure it'll bubble up here if it does with more details just like when they got nuked from Reddit. Arguably sites like this one are a good way to gauge the true robustness of the Internet - given the situation this week they clearly now are in the realm of law enforcement, but up until these rather insane events to me their continued presence was an existence proof that speech on the web is still in a good place. Now if they get taken down I won't judge it too harshly against that thesis since they basically fomented a theoretical insurrection by the letter of the law, even though in practice the "coup" turns out was never a real threat given how ridiculous things went once the dog caught the car.
      • blisterpeanuts 6y ago
        Suppose that the only violence was caused by a group of antifa supporters wearing pro-Trump hats etc., which some eyewitnesses are now claiming. Suppose further that about 100 people actually passed the barricades (which were inexplicably opened by the police, by the way, video evidence shows) out of the estimated 40,000 at the rally. If that is the case, is it really fair to shut down major pro-Trump websites? If so, it would prove that a few instigators can pretty much undermine any organization by these kinds of tactics. I would also note that there has been terrible violence associated with BLM protests, much worse than was seen this week, with buildings burned, police cars smashed or lit on fire, dozens of police assaulted, people shot, stores looted, passersby beaten up... and to my knowledge, no effort was made to close down BLM websites. I'm all for law and order, and I was against the trespassing that happened and whatever violence did occur at that rally, but we shouldn't be so quick to just throw out freedom of speech and equal access to the internet, or it will come back to bite us, guaranteed. The Internet was established by public funding, university research, and millions of people paying into services & resources; it mustn't be turned into a private club.
• ravenstine 6y ago
  That's the danger in going to such lengths to shut down disagreeable viewpoints. People say "make your own website", but that becomes a race to the bottom when we start politicizing server hosts and ISPs. When you completely shut people up, that doesn't mean they're gone, and now you don't know what they're thinking. Meanwhile you're actually tyrannical because a monopoly on information makes the mass 80% believe that everyone thinks like the MSM, which isn't true, then everyone is surprised when it turns out there's lots of people who don't support the establishment.
  • toomuchtodo 6y ago
    What other options do you have if you can't educate or have intellectual discourse with people who are fabricating reality or deeply believe in conspiracy theories? It's like trying to pull someone out of a cult like Scientology. Of course, attempt to engage to improve the situation and help someone obtain ground truth on their own from legitimate information sources, but when it's obviously hopeless insulate yourself against those who could harm and move forward. You don't have to support the establishment, but you also don't have the right to violence because you feel slighted.
    • gpm 6y ago
      What I would prefer is removing moderators, aggressively fighting bots, and putting reasonably neutral parties in the moderation position. The second part of that is hard/expensive, but it is a path forwards to some level of discourse between the people using these subreddits and everyone else. Driving these communities to different sites means that people get in much stronger filter bubbles, that's probably not a good thing. To take the example of /r/conservative on reddit right now, the subreddit currently bans anyone who says anything at all critical of Trump, and mostly only let's people who have a history of saying supportive things talk. That's not good for reddit, or the country as a whole. But if reddit just removed the current batch of moderators and those rules, and had someone enforce some reasonable standards of discourse but not enforce politics, I think it could turn into a force for good. To put it in your own terms, my preferred solution is to try and make it possible to "have intellectual discourse with people who are fabricating reality or deeply believe in conspiracy theories", instead of just making it so those people go fabricate their reality elsewhere.
• mschuster91 6y ago
  > Moreover, they've gotten threats from their ISP that they have to delete certain posts or be shut down. (which seems scary to me) Not to me, because free speech, even in the US, was never "absolutely free" speech - incitement to riot is punishable by law, for one.
• lostlogin 6y ago
  > Irrelevant They allowed the group to build and grow then once they moved off they killed the sub?
  • typon 6y ago
    I meant this new ban is irrelevant. Any Trump presence on reddit is minor after the initial ban earlier last year.
• renewiltord 6y ago
  Yeah, this is a win. You can go to this guy's party at his house. And I don't have to worry about the guys at his party wandering into mine. And vice versa.
  • berkes 6y ago
    To stretch that analogy: all is fine, except for "this guy's" neighbors, they are in for a terrible night. And when the crowd at "this guy's party" is heated up and collectively starts harrassing people on the street, it gets even worse. My point: Fine indeed, as long as they "stay there". But they won't. This goes for any online community: it has effects outside of that community.
  • nickysielicki 6y ago
    What's important is that nobody interacts or challenges one another. Otherwise, our feelings might get hurt.
    • renewiltord 6y ago
      This is actually crucial. When I go to see cat pics, I don't want to discuss whether Evil Jew Bankers Are Stealing America's Future. It isn't an offence thing. It's just ... boringly dumb. It's just like I'm not going to start a conversation in this thread to review my basic backstitch.
• iso1631 6y ago
  > Moreover, they've gotten threats from their ISP that they have to delete certain posts or be shut down. (which seems scary to me) Have you never heard of the DMCA? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25682785 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25682785 Wikipedia was threatened for having B709D3A0CD2FEC08EAFCCF540D8A100BB38E5E091D646ADB7B14D021096FFCD on a web page. ISPs are frequently threatening to disconnect customers who serve files, and sites that are large enough to have their own connectivity have had this for 20 years. This one for example https://slashdot.org/story/00/05/11/0153247/microsoft-asks-slashdot-to-remove-readers-posts https://slashdot.org/story/00/05/11/0153247/microsoft-asks-s... "Under the provisions of the DMCA, we expect that having been duly notified of this case of blatant copyright violation, Andover will remove the above referenced comments from its servers and forward our complaint to the owner of the referenced comments. "
  • typon 6y ago
    Except in this case, this isn't a copyright violation. I have never heard of a case of a website being shut down by an ISP for advocating violence. If that was the case, Facebook, Reddit, Twitter or any social media platform wouldn't exist.
    • iso1631 6y ago
      So copyright violations are worse than advocating violence?
• ddingus 6y ago
  I do not even think it is morbid. 70 million people voted for Trump. Understanding them better is not a bad thing. Does not mean agreeing with them. And yes, same.
  • cultus 6y ago
    I think most of us understand them perfectly well at this point. Quit carrying water for fascists, it's gross.
    • sillycon-valley 6y ago
      And the other side will call you a communist. See how that doesn't help?
      • cultus 6y ago
        Better than a Nazi. Letting fascism slide is what got us into this mess. We aren't going to get out of it by coddling people who don't believe in democracy and freedom. Nice shiny 2-day old account you got there. Afraid to post under your real account because you appear to be a fascist sympathizer?
        • sillycon-valley 6y ago
          Calling people Nazi's is a great way to dehumanize someone, but not really a great way to win anyone over because it's not an argument. The only fascism I see is the censorship going around. How are they Nazis or fascists? Most want limited government, and no censorship. Trump supporters don't own the media and aren't silencing people. I don't see why you have to attack me or my account. You're the one calling people fascists and getting flagged. I just wanted to point out that name calling gets you nowhere.
        • throwaway45349 6y ago
          Why don't you post your LinkedIn if you feel so strongly that we shouldn't be anonymous for our own protection? I hate both extremes and I don't want to risk the thugs from either side (nazis or communists) bashing my skull in or trying to get me fired.
• kazinator 6y ago
  You've given some good pragmatic/technical reasons why Reddit might not want to host that stuff, apart from ideology.
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• matheusmoreira 6y ago
  > they've gotten threats from their ISP that they have to delete certain posts or be shut down Wow, that sucks. What ISP is that? Why can't they just take the money and host the service without censoring other people?
  • wolco5 6y ago
    What isp offers that?
  • cultus 6y ago
    There's consequences.
• raldi 6y ago
  > one of the top websites in the US in terms of traffic > constantly DDoSd Hmm...
• manfredo 6y ago
  > Moreover, they've gotten threats from their ISP that they have to delete certain posts or be shut down. (which seems scary to me) Agreed - though I find it's more of a headache than scary. On end, I don't like the fact that increasingly internet infrastructure is acting as a de facto judge in deciding what speech is and isn't allowed. I empathize with both parties. ISPs don't want to host speech they feel is abhorrent, and I'd probably do the same thing were I in their position. I'm much more accepting of platforms like Facebook, Reddit, Twitter, et. al. taking down groups and banning members than I am of infrastructure providers doing the same. The former kicks people off of large communities, but people can still put together their own websites. When it gets the the point that I might not even be able to serve plain HTML that I wrote myself, because nobody will even let it go through the wires that's when I start thinking utility regulation in ISPs, DNS, etc. is necessary. Cloudflare's CEO was very humble when taking down sites. When talking about taking down the Daily Stormer, "Literally, I woke up in a bad mood and decided someone shouldn’t be allowed on the Internet... No one should have that power.” [1] I largely agree, though I'd offer the caveat that something needs to have this power but it should be an institution like the courts rather than individuals in corporations. 1. https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/17/cloudflare-ceo-says-removing-the-daily-stormer-is-slippery-slope.html https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/17/cloudflare-ceo-says-removing...
  • zionic 6y ago
    > ISPs don't want to host speech they feel is abhorrent But where does this end? Does the phone company want to allow conversations they find morally reprehensible? Does apple want to send iMessages that denigrate their company? After all, they are private companies! /s
    • manfredo 6y ago
      It's actually a serious and legitimate question. Freedom from speech also means freedom from compelled speech. A government can't pass a law to make a Mom and Pop shop sell a certain magazine. And corporations enjoy the same freedoms: I'm very confident that the government could not pass a law forcing Twitter to overturn bans. And ISPs possibly have the same freedom from compelled speech. I'm no lawyer, but I think the distinction is in utilities. The postal service, for instance, can't just refuse service to people they don't like. Same with power companies. I'm not sure how phone providers and ISPs fit into this. But I think it may be useful to have ISPs, payment providers, and maybe also DNS and DDOS protection providers be considered utilities. My basic measuring stick is that putting HMTL and CSS out on the internet should be protected akin to the ability to send letters through the mail.
• mr_coleman 6y ago
  I love doom scrolling as much as the next guy, just make sure to get some mind bleach. Find a nice fiction podcast or take up electronics. Both sides will consume your mental health if your not careful.
  • HDMI_Cable 6y ago
    I'm actually looking for a good podcast. Do you have any recommendations?
    • pcdoodle 6y ago
      Nick's Non Fiction
    • baumandm 6y ago
      Our Fake History -- it's a historian deep-diving into various historical myths, their origins, and the scholarly consensus around the truth (at least as we understand it). It's utterly fascinating. http://ourfakehistory.com/ http://ourfakehistory.com/
    • shrimp_emoji 6y ago
      Try https://soundcloud.com/cum-town https://soundcloud.com/cum-town
  • ddingus 6y ago
    Electronics for me. Highly recommended.
• michaelmrose 6y ago
  If you wonder why they are threatened consider parler and the things people post there. Please forgive the language it is verbatim and I think threats of violence are more offensive than bad words. > You had better be ready partriots! It is go time very soon. We must attack all central communications to big cities are democratic cities. Fiber optics telecom bridges supply routes we can starve those motherfuckers to death. The people are ready it is time. >We got to give it until Monday but after that partriots we must take the fight to them, make that rally look small. Load your magazines gather your things it's time to go and take out the sorry bastards. While we worry about the very legitimate question of what the limits of free speech are and how we ought not to create a situation where anyone serves as the gate keeper they are planning to kill us and install an autocracy.
  • Grimm1 6y ago
    I am of the potentially unpopular mindset that we need to get our hands dirty to preserve our freedoms from these people. Worrying about being a gatekeeper when these people gladly, and openly, threaten our peace and lives is ridiculous. Let's shut them down, shut them out and generally rebuke them. History shows that higher order ideals generally need to be preserved with actions when words have failed, and make no mistake we are past words with these folks.
    • bfieidhbrjr 6y ago
      I agree but there are 300 million in the US. The actual insurrectionists are like... 200 people? Maybe 2,000? Shutting down anyone talking pro trump in the whole country will have downsides, and just make them more angry. Prohibition isn't an answer that will work. Hopefully sending all of the insurrectionists to jail will help.
      • Grimm1 6y ago
        I made this likening to the situation the otherday. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hall_Putsch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hall_Putsch "Maybe 2,000" was a precursor event to the rise of Nazi germany.
• deeeeplearning 6y ago
  >Also, please don't judge me, I just have a morbid curiosity to see what these people are talking about and how they think. Why not just tour your local Psychiatric Ward? Please keep downvoting. I bathe in Maga-Moron tears. Poor Snowflakes.
• tenebrisalietum 6y ago
  This is a different subreddit than /r/theDonald, which was banned earlier.
• tootie 6y ago
  The last place I worked paid hard-earned money during a recession to migrate their properties off of CloudFlare because they were providing CDN services to the Proud Boys and the CEO had made some equivocal statement that they didn't think it was their responsibility to police content. It's an interesting topic and possibly a genuine slippery slope about what sort of responsibility service providers have over their customers use of their platform. It's one thing for dangerous content to be hosted, moderated and monetized on a platform like facebook. But what about just caching it blindly?
  • throwaway45349 6y ago
    You're joking, right? I for one am proud of Cloudflare for taking a stand against cancel culture, because one of these days it could hit you or me and I want to support people who will stand in behind me in the name of free speech.
    • zionic 6y ago
      The irony is he's also wrong, cloudfare canceled daily stormer and made a big fuss about it.
    • tootie 6y ago
      Is "cancel culture" defined as being anti-Nazi or something? "Cancelling" is absolutely an expression of free speech.
      • throwaway45349 6y ago
        Creating a cancel culture is exactly what the Nazis did to push their agenda. I can be anti-Nazi and pro-free speech.
        • tootie 6y ago
          I think it's disingenuous to say "cancelling" is an invalid tactic and more than saying violence is an invalid tactic. Cancelling Nazis is as acceptable as shooting them by thousands was in the 1940s. I don't think it's at all unreasonable for us to be able to draw a line at what kind of speech we consider harmful. And saying the line is Nazism is an easy starting point.
• vitus 6y ago
  Alexa says that thedonald.win ranks... #2404 globally, and #419 in the US. https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/thedonald.win https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/thedonald.win For reference, this is higher than infowars (#507 in the US) but far lower than Breitbart (#72 in the US), to name other, um, right-wing conspiracy-promoting sites. This is also lower than amazon.ca in the US (#354), apparently. That probably says something.
• grezql 6y ago
  the people on these communities creates their alternative reality. selectively avoid news/information that can burst their bubble. its the same with /r/politics. both living in massive bubbles with complete opposite realities. the difference is that r/the_donald is more violent. They cordinate gatherings, "attacks", a violent protests. r/politics which is liberal bubble is more peaceful but both these communites censor opposing views and is dangerous to democracy
• legulere 6y ago
  I don’t think it’s irrelevant. Keeping it off Reddit means that less gullible teenagers (which are a large percentage of Reddit’s user user base) will come into contact with it.
• philip1209 6y ago
  Matthew Pierce from Cloudflare has notoriously dropped 8Chan after its content contributed to three mass shootings [1]. Will Cloudflare continue to protect thedonald[.]win? I think we should call Cloudflare out. https://twitter.com/philipithomas/status/1347621982758719489 https://twitter.com/philipithomas/status/1347621982758719489 -- [1] https://stratechery.com/2021/trump-and-twitter/ https://stratechery.com/2021/trump-and-twitter/
  • joshstrange 6y ago
    Seeing how they call for war, killing people, and overthrowing the government daily if not hourly I can’t imagine why CF continues to provide them services. Truly, you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. I mean you probably will on some of the *chans but it’s pretty freaking bad over at TD win.
• stanfordkid 6y ago
  It's a self fulfilling prophecy / feedback loop. Censorship creates fear of authoritarianism --> anti-government fears --> kooky crazies supporting trump --> censorship
• mef 6y ago
  citation for the top websites by traffic? (not seeing them here https://www.alexa.com/topsites/countries/US https://www.alexa.com/topsites/countries/US)
  • viro 6y ago
    OP likely posts to the site regularly. An thinks the site is an excellent place full of patriots that just so happens to want to stop an evil ring of pedophiles that just so happen to be filled with all of Trump's political enemies.
    • stale2002 6y ago
      You can look up the stats yourself. https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/thedonald.win https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/thedonald.win Over the last 90 days it has gone from a global Alexa Rank of 6000, to 2400. And is apparent about 400 in the US. In my subjective opinion that is a large amount of growth.
      • viro 6y ago
        you mean to tell me a well known place that crazy people congreate and organize to plan treason and insurrection in plain sight gets more traffic when the President calls for the overturning of a democratic election... who would have thought
        • stale2002 6y ago
          So you agree with the original commenter, then, who said that there was large growth for the platform? Cool. Glad you agree. That was their point.
• shimonabi 6y ago
  I've been lurking on that web site since before the riot and it had the most extreme content. Law enforcement should get involved. They were openly writing about throwing liberals off helicopters etc...
• thefrog 6y ago
  > Also, please don't judge me, I just have a morbid curiosity to see what these people are talking about and how they think. To be afraid of being "judged" for your relatively tame and objective comments speaks volumes about the state of our increasingly polarized culture.
• zwily 6y ago
  I just browsed that site for a couple minutes, and content aside, it’s amazing how much better it is on mobile than Reddit.
• throwawaysea 6y ago
  I don't think ISPs should be in the business of deciding what content is allowed or disallowed. If there's illegal content, that's a different thing. But politically disagreeable content? Infrastructure and utility services should not be permitted to make decisions about that even if they are private entities. And I extend this to Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, etc. since they all are so big that their ability to censor and control speech is comparable to a government's power. And if you can't exercise speech on those platforms, which are now the public town square, then you effectively don't have that right. Put another way, they are utilities and should be regulated/treated like a public entity.
• gnulinux 6y ago
  > Also, please don't judge me, I just have a morbid curiosity to see what these people are talking about and how they think. I read thedonald.win daily too. It feels like r/watchPeopleDie, some sort of morbid curiosity. Currently they're claiming Trump's concession video yesterday was deep faked. Very entertaining and scary at the same time.
  • typon 6y ago
    Did you see his neck move weirdly though? Totally not a morbidly obese man just struggling to fit inside a collared shirt.
• wodenokoto 6y ago
  Alexa rank 2400 global and 400 for US. https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/thedonald.win https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/thedonald.win
  • tdaltonc 6y ago
    Just what I was looking for! Can you give some context on this too? Like what else is about ~400 in the US?
    • wodenokoto 6y ago
      I can't give you much context, sorry. I just shared the numbers to save others from googling. Hacker news is 6500 globally, and 2600 in the US, if that is any kind of context. Alexa is one of the oldest analytics companies to publicize top rankings for websites. Today was the first time I noticed they've been bought by Amazon. You can look around their top 50, (which they are calling top 500 for the clicks) for global and country level web traffic here: https://www.alexa.com/topsites https://www.alexa.com/topsites
• 88840-8855 6y ago
  WOW, I love the design/UI of theDonald.win It is clear, simple and harmonic. Kudos for the design. I wished reddit would like that way.
• pmarreck 6y ago
  I have the same curiosity but it is more about being worried that the balkanization of the Internet will have serious negative outcomes down the line, such as what we saw 2 days ago, except progressively worse. Everyone IMHO should be peering into other bastions of thought
• pmarreck 6y ago
  I never heard of thedonald.win and took a peek over there just to see what a cesspool of banned users looks like. JFC. It's a circus of terrible thinking and baseless anger over there. If that site is getting a lot of traffic, you folks who consider yourselves above such things better start fighting for what is actually true and good, because what is not true and not good is exactly what is festering over there, and if they don't get their vote, they WILL get violent again, just see how they attacked Lindsey Graham at the airport just now for breaking rank on principle... and sweeping these folks under the rug will not eradicate the cancer