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A container ship lost a record 1,800 containers
- Waterluvian 6y agoMy smartass reaction was "I wonder if that's where my PS5 is." But this got me thinking: it would be very interesting to get a listing of everything lost. Even as just a one-off case study. What does it look like to lose a container ship worth or cargo?
- snypher 6y agoYou could then determine an over/under on recovering them. Ideally you could recover them all, but you would need some that weren't just rice and beans to make it worthwhile.
- Waterluvian 6y agoThey're not sealed though, I think? Now I'm wondering about how much stuff survives and how that correlates with value.
- toomuchtodo 6y agoThey’re water tight to prevent cargo exposure to the ocean and elements, but will sink once the remaining air escapes. They can float beneath the ocean surface for days to weeks, depending on contents and weight.
- throwawaygimp 6y agoDo an image search for 'Shipping container floor'. They have horizontal steel bracing which a wooden floor gets mounted on. Definitely far from water tight. The only way they are going to float for any period of time is if teh contents are watertight and low density
- toomuchtodo 6y ago“Wind and Water Tight” (WWT) is a specific condition/description of shipping container. I would agree they’re not air tight. https://www.carucontainers.com/en-br/faq/what-does-wind-and-water-tight-wwt-mean-exactly https://www.carucontainers.com/en-br/faq/what-does-wind-and-...
- benatkin 6y agoThey could be accidentally air tight. https://twitter.com/Dankmemsandmeme/status/1312777204187705345 https://twitter.com/Dankmemsandmeme/status/13127772041877053...
- medion 6y agoI think also if they are refrigerated and full of food, the food rots and gases off, keeping them afloat longer. Also, I recall something about certain containers (or maybe it was just an experiment?) having holes in them plugged with a material which dissolves after extended exposure to saltwater - so within a few hours they sink.
- refurb 6y agohttps://www.airseacontainers.com/blog/are-shipping-containers-watertight-we-set-the-record-straight/ https://www.airseacontainers.com/blog/are-shipping-container... It would appear that containers in good condition are indeed water "resistant", that is, if rained on or spray with sea water, it won't get in the container. Dropped in the ocean? Yeah, water is getting in.
- cyates81 6y agoMy Kickstarter that I’ve been working on for a year now and that backers have been waiting on for months was on that ship. Needless to say, it’s been a brutal week.
- jacquesm 6y agoChances are it still is on that ship.
- rob74 6y agoAs someone else already figured out, the chance that the container is still on the ship is around 75% (assuming that the lost containers were all 40ft, that would be 3600 TEU out of the ship's capacity of 14000 TEU) - however, even if it is still on the ship, there will probably be delays while they carefully unload the damaged containers. Not to forget that the ship will probably head to the next port, not to its actual destination...
- jacquesm 6y agoYes, but that's better than even chances that their load will be preserved. This is part and parcel of the risk of ordering stuff from far away.
- irjustin 6y agoAbsolutely sucks and sorry to hear. Are you related to ijidak's post (chalkboardmap.com) or another kickstarter?
- mjevans 6y agoI was thinking the same thing and wondering if that was several wafers worth of batches in Videocards / CPUs that we're all hitting F5 trying to order frequently.
- prawn 6y agoInteresting that they'd voluntarily raise this in their own published FAQ. Seems unusual for a PR site: "Are there any problems with the hull structure of this vessel type? We know the same type of vessel also experienced container loss recently."
- howlgarnish 6y agoThe FAQ appears to be translated directly from the Japanese, which does not share the American tradition of admitting to nothing to avoid feeding lawsuits. To be clear, the Japanese answers don't admit to anything either, the questions are just more blunt than you might expect.
- askl56 6y agoMy experience of Japan and East Asian govt/megacorps is that they are far more honest on the surface level but will stonewall and put up far more resistance if you try to dig deeper/follow up.
- 112012123 6y agoWow - that's a remarkably large number of containers. If my math is right, just about 25% of a full load on this ship. Half-submerged containers can be pretty insidious navigation hazards. Hopefully nobody ends up hitting them before they sink.
- howlgarnish 6y agogCaptain says the ship's capacity is 14,000 TEU. Assuming those are all 40 ft containers (2 TEU each), that's 7000 containers, so 24%. https://gcaptain.com/containership-one-apus-loses-significant-number-of-containers-overboard-in-pacific-manager/ https://gcaptain.com/containership-one-apus-loses-significan...
- gregimba 6y ago> 64 are believed to be Dangerous Goods containers I'm curious what these actually contain? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dangerous_goods https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dangerous_goods
- spotman 6y agoOften products with batteries in them. But also products with chemicals or generally products that cause could health, safety or fire concerns if not handled properly.
- octoberfranklin 6y agoThe fact that a single category "dangerous" is so broad is a serious problem.
- wolfgang42 6y agoYou don’t just declare your goods as “dangerous,” there’s a bunch of subcategories and you have to explain why your things are dangerous and what to do about it. This report is just summarizing.
- throwaway03857 6y agoNo it's not. "Dangerous goods" in shipping terms is a specific term for a very broad category with multiple subcategories of goods covered by (in this context) the international maritime code on dangerous goods which enumerates in mind numbing detail what goods are covered and what arent. Anybody in the business, who this site is for, will know what "dangerous goods" refers to. Just because you don't know the meaning of a term doesn't mean it's not very precisely defined.
- mekster 6y agoThe (added?) report says, > 54 of the DG containers carry fireworks whilst a further eight hold batteries, and two contain liquid ethanol.
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- Bluecobra 6y agoI was surprised to find that between 2,000 to 10,000 containers are lost each year. Seems like with the design on these you’re just asking for trouble. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Container_ship https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Container_ship
- TylerE 6y agoIs it surprising? There are 800 million containers shipped per year. 10k is is a literal drop in the bucket. It's 99.99875% relability.
- resonantjacket5 6y agoI wonder if there's some way to compare that to driving accident/flying accident rates for a comparison. Though I'm not sure how to compare it as drivers drive more than once in a year compared to a container only shipped once.
- eqvinox 6y agoThe way to compare that would be to calculate the accident rate per freight ton-kilometer; it's the same consideration as with figuring how "green" some transport is by looking at CO2 per ton-kilometer. cf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Units_of_transportation_measurement#Payload-distance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Units_of_transportation_measur...
- layoric 6y agoWhile true, it is quite staggering to visualize 100mx100mx75m of shipping containers to represent what gets lost every year. Yes it is tiny in the global scale of what is being shipped but wow that is a large apartment building every year getting dumped into the ocean.
- 542354234235 6y ago> that is a large apartment building every year getting dumped into the ocean. To be fair, we should probably visualize the total amount shipped per year. Which, if all the shipping containers were laid out in a single stack, could completely cover the US state of New Jersey or the country of Belize.
- DenverCode 6y agoThe page states that the winds were at BF 4 (13-18 MPH) and waves were 5-6 meters (16-20 feet) during the incident. One Apus measures out at 364 meters. I spent four years at sea and 5-6 meters with BF4 winds, isn't THAT bad- especially for a ship that size. Am I missing something here?
- rootusrootus 6y agoThat's a good question. It says the prevailing winds were BF4, but then earlier it mentions 'gale force' which implies BF8? Something seems missing indeed.
- lostlogin 6y agoSurely a weather forecast could have predicted the wind force and then this could have been avoided? Or has something failed or the loading been done incorrectly?
- bufferoverflow 6y agoSometimes captains decide to go through much worse storms. That's what happened with El Faro, if I remember correctly. A huge ship sunk by a huge storm. The captain was a self-sure moron, killed 30+ people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_El_Faro https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_El_Faro
- bufferoverflow 6y agoIt would be quite unusual to get 5-6 meter waves at BF4. That's more of a BF8 level. I bet it's misreported. Most ships, even small ones, will not care for BF4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaufort_scale#Modern_scale https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaufort_scale#Modern_scale
- ponker 6y agoCouldn’t the waves originate elsewhere where it’s BF8? What’s going to stop a wave in the open ocean?
- DavidPeiffer 6y agoSomething that surprised me is that companies are under no obligation to disclose loss of cargo unless it contains dangerous or hazardous goods. [1] I'm sure the fact that they estimate 64 to be Dangerous Goods, and the general magnitude of the number of containers lost has led to this website being setup. Apparently ~1/100,000 containers are lost at sea, which is higher than I might have guessed. Also, I found the short podcast series Containers [2] to be an interesting introduction to shipments by sea. [1] https://www.eurosender.com/blog/en/lost-sea-shipping-containers/ https://www.eurosender.com/blog/en/lost-sea-shipping-contain... [2] https://www.stitcher.com/show/containers https://www.stitcher.com/show/containers
- _JamesA_ 6y agoHow big of a problem is 1800+ containers lost in what I assume is a major shipping route? The first thing that came to mind is the movie All Is Lost (2013)[1]. [1]: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2017038/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2017038/
- ardy42 6y ago> How big of a problem is 1800+ containers lost in what I assume is a major shipping route? It could be a big problem for someone. IIRC, when some people move overseas long term, they sometimes ship their personal possessions via container, which now might be at the bottom of the ocean.
- geocrasher 6y agoYes, this was the first thing that came to my mind as well. An excellent movie, especially as Robert Redford is the only actor in the entire movie, and I don't think he speaks more than a few words for the entirety of the film.
- spurgu 6y agoIt's a horrible movie, from a sailor's perspective. I cringed/facepalmed all throughout it - he doesn't do a single thing an actual sailor would do (at least in a timely manner). The only way this movie would be acceptable was if the character was actually teleported onto the boat in the beginning of the movie with no prior sailing experience. So much stupidity. One of my "favorite" moments was when he tied the liferaft to the sinking boat and went to sleep in the liferaft. And there were similar facepalm moments from beginning to end. I was so disappointed to see him rescued at the end of the movie. Drowning would've been a fitting, well-deserved ending - he was trying so hard.
- overscore 6y agoI volunteer on a nautical SAR unit, and although it's been a few years, nothing in the movie struck me as out-of-character for a sailor. Casualty vessels rarely follow SOLAS/SAR guidance to the letter, and recreational sailors do all sorts of odd things when in trouble. Also, I think we have different interpretations of the ending. Redford didn't survive.
- howlgarnish 6y agoRandom thoughts: - I'm somewhat astonished that a ship of this size can hit a storm this size and limp back to port despite losing 1,800 containers. - 1,800 containers floating around in the ocean is going to be a major shipping hazard until they sink, which may take a while if the goods packed within are buoyant (eg. anything packed in styrofoam). - A friend used to work in the transshipping biz, and she said this kind of thing is why you buy insurance: odds are 99.99%+ your container will come through entirely unscathed, but if you hit the negative jackpot, everything will be completely gone. In 2013, the sinking of the MOL Comfort also meant the loss of 4,300 containers. https://gcaptain.com/mol-comfort-incident-photos/ https://gcaptain.com/mol-comfort-incident-photos/
- hazbot 6y agoI just shipped about £25,000 of personal effects - they wanted to charge me 5% for insurance! I’m really glad seeing the estimates for container loss in this thread that I decided to just wear the risk myself.
- stevekemp 6y agoI remember something similar - I moved from Scotland to Finland and we used a shipping container to move some of our stuff. Of course we sold/donated most things, and didn't try to transport furniture. We shipped 80cbft / 2.26 cubic meters of stuff. The price for removal was £570.00, and the price of insurance was £307.40. So in our case insurance was damn near 50% of the shipping price. (Quick edit: Found the actual emails so those numbers are correct.)
- lostlogin 6y agoWhat would you estimate the value of the contents to be?
- stevekemp 6y agoMy memory would be £10,000-£15,000. Mostly it was sentimental stuff, I know we shipped cutlery, paintings, a very small number of books, clothing etc. But roughly speaking we'd got rid of anything and everything we could easily replace. (And it has to be said that the pair of us carried a few suitcases for our flights, we'd filled those with plants and other fragile items.)
- m4rtink 6y agoSo I had a bunch of books shipped from Japan to Europe by surface mail, so quite possibly in a container on a ship like this. The package is still in transit so news like this makes me a bit weary. Luckily the ship in question had sailed from China to the USA, so it most likely does not have my package. Still, best of luck to others with package in transfer by seamail! :)
- schoen 6y agoThe U.S. used to allow very cheap international book shipping by surface mail, called an M-bag https://faq.usps.com/s/article/What-is-M-bag-Service https://faq.usps.com/s/article/What-is-M-bag-Service It was kind of insanely cheap compared to other ways of transporting books internationally. But it was discontinued about a decade ago and replaced with airmail M-bags, which may still be cheaper than many other options but are not nearly as cheap as the surface M-bags were. Did you (or someone who was sending you these books) find a service like this still available from Japan? I'd be happy to hear that this is still offered in other countries and that people are still getting a benefit from it.
- jwr 6y agoI used it once in the past. I cried when the bag arrived. The books were ground to a fine pulp, with all covers torn off and only some of the insides remaining holding together. The bag contained mostly dust. No amount of throwing would do this: they bag must have been thrown insecured into a larger container, where it slid around and bumped into other things as waves rocked the ship(s). Never, ever again.
- schoen 6y agoMy father owns a bookstore and would use surface M-bags, while they existed, to ship things to customers overseas (with their permission). I believe he never had a problem with significant damage to the contents. I agree it's got to be riskier for books than the airmail options, and I'm very sorry to hear of what happened to your books when you used it. :-(
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- JoeAltmaier 6y agoContainer ships (and standardized containers) are a major reason for the standard of living in our modern society. The volumes are so huge, that the cost per package to ship halfway around the world is relatively small. The downside is, accidents can be of startling proportions.
- fy20 6y agoI watched a YouTube video about the economics of scrapping still useable cruise and container ships recently (spoiler: the price of scrap steel is worth more than the cost of continuing to run old ships). One of the mind blowing points was that its cheaper to send a container from the UK to Australia, than from the UK to Switzerland.
- octoberfranklin 6y agoIt has more to do with standardized handling and not breaking bulk than with volume. Vessel size has grown, but only slowly. If you look at how shipping was done back when longshoremen broke bulk it was a stupendous amount of work.
- npiit 6y agoThat's what happens when you don't use a container orchestrator.
- wolfgang42 6y agoI’ve heard from some people involved in the shipping industry that (based on the size of the incident) this ship is probably going to declare General Average, which is a sort of weird concept that AFAIK doesn’t really have a parallel on land. It’s basically, “we’ve lost an awful lot of cargo—everyone who had stuff on board, chip in to pay for what got lost.” From what I understand, the idea is that you don’t want to waste time in an emergency trying to figure out which cargo is OK to jettison, so the shippers whose stuff arrived safely pay the ones who didn’t for their sacrifice, but I imagine it can be quite the surprise bill.
- system2 6y agoAren't there supposed to be some sort of insurance for this type of a thing?
- wolfgang42 6y agoWikipedia traces the origins of General Average to 800 BC, so it rather predates the modern insurance industry—it’s basically a group insurance policy where you only have to pay the premium if something happens. Nowadays if you’ve insured your container that will also cover GA for the shipment, but if you shipped uninsured you have to pay it yourself.
- cromka 6y agoThat doesn't sound bad. If you ship a lot, you may save money on the insurance fees and only chip in in the event something actually gets lost. The insurance fees would obviously include the actual premiums (income) of the insurers, which you save the money on, so in the long term it should cost you less, shouldn't it?
- est31 6y agoActually a pretty cool idea. Otherwise you'd have people bribing the captain to make them throw out their stuff last, increasing fare prices for everyone, but in a hidden way.
- ijidak 6y agoA friend of mine is doing a mostly self-funded startup (chalkboardmap.com) and has cargo on this ship. It really sucks. It's their first shipment after doing a Kickstarter. They have 1,000 maps on the ship and they're not sure if the maps are in the water or not. When I heard the story, I couldn't even believe it happened. Like, who thinks... "well I hope my container doesn't fall into the ocean"? What are the odds? But now, seeing this article, I realize the case really is extraordinary.
- lawnchair_larry 6y agoThis is probably what caused the whole incident. If anything can go wrong with a kickstarter, it will! Any insurance relief?
- cyates81 6y agoThat is so true. I’m his friend and I had already faced so many setbacks with this Kickstarter. It was supposed to ship in July. Literally the day I was announcing to my backers that it should arrive in the US soon and opened up our mobile app for photo magnet orders the ship was in the storm. My sourcing partner / logistics team reports that our insurance will cover damage or loss. But it’s going to take several weeks just to sort through it all. Here’s a picture of the ship: https://share.icloud.com/photos/0gLIQVJUHGxk2lkSGFrJ8-AYg https://share.icloud.com/photos/0gLIQVJUHGxk2lkSGFrJ8-AYg
- askvictor 6y agoThat picture is nuts. Strange that the container stacks seem to have fallen in both directions, almost alternating. Why would they do that?
- goldenchrome 6y agoRocking from left to right until the stacks topple. Randomized chance of going left or right.
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- blondie9x 6y agoCan the hazardous containers ever be recovered? Should we be taking extra care when transporting hazardous cargo? Like positioning in a different part of boat or limiting overall cargo amount that can be transported when moving hazardous chemicals that can damage ecosystems and food sources?
- fractallyte 6y agoHow anyone could downvote such an important comment is beyond me. Of course this should be a priority issue! The 'anthropocene' is a steady process of attrition - environment protection should be at the top of planning and management in every industry.
- mschuster91 6y ago"Dangerous goods" is an extremely broad category that covers both environmental concerns and handling/storage concerns. A shipment full of batteries or deodorant/paint spray cans is not really dangerous if it gets thrown into the sea, but firefighters need to know that in case a fire breaks out. And you don't want to place something like pyrotechnics next to tires next to ammonium fertilizer as it was in that warehouse in Beirut. tl;dr: "dangerous goods" classification is most important for on-shore handling and safety considerations, not because of environment concerns in case of an at-sea loss.
- sabujp 6y agoit seems you'd want your container near the bottom of the stack and closest to the bridge (near the midline of the ship). They should charge different amounts for container placement. If your container is at the top corners near the bow of the ship you should have to pay the least amount for insurance/shipping since you're taking the most risk.
- ocdtrekkie 6y agoI'm assuming weight factors heavily into loading arrangement, and they probably mostly want to avoid other factors complicating how they stack containers aboard.
- Ekaros 6y agoLoading a container ship is massive puzzle. The weight is one thing, but other one is that the operation really isn't point to point, but series. So starting from China empty(probably not) the ship is filled and then it visits multiple ports. And neither the ship or the ports want to waste time to move containers out and back in so containers going to later ports have to be below containers going to earlier ports. And containers travelling to the later ports can also be added on the way.
- sabujp 6y agoin any case, the ones that i thought would have been lost are still somehow there : https://old.reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFailure/comments/k90wdj/container_ship_one_apus_arriving_in_japan_today/ https://old.reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFailure/comments/k90wdj...
- dgrin91 6y agoI wonder why they are calling this a record number of containers lost. Did some quick googling and that doesn't seem to be true at all. The current record holder is the [MOL Comfort](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOL_Comfort#Shipwreck https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOL_Comfort#Shipwreck) which lost its full compliment of 4.3k containers.
- stevage 6y agoMaybe a record for a cargo less without shipwreck?
- supernova87a 6y agoWhat's more scary is the half-submerged invisible containers floating around, waiting to hit some unsuspecting sailboat in the middle of the night.
- octoberfranklin 6y ago_All Is Lost_, the 2013 movie about exactly this, is actually a really great film. Except for the first five minutes, there is only a single word of dialogue in the script: "FUUUUUUUUCK!"
- ogre_codes 6y agoI'm just trying to imagine what being in this ship must have been line when this thing collapsed. It must have been insane for quite some time. The initial collapse, then likely for some time after the sound and tremors as the unstable mass of containers continued to settle and slide off the deck. What a crazy life.
- ksec 6y agoMy question is, with Modern Technology, Satellite imagery and Weather forecast, how far are we from completely removing the risk of containers ship hitting a storm and lost containers? While someone has pointed out It's 99.99875% reliability in a yearly basis. 10K Containers lost per year is still a staggering amount. Or more like 6 - 10 incidents like this per year. We cant make ship travel any faster due to law of physics. Surely we could make it travel safer?
- nradov 6y agoIt is impossible to completely remove the risk of running into heavy weather. Container ships are relatively slow and weather isn't always predictable. The bigger problems are that ship crews don't properly lash down deck cargo. And some shippers falsely declare container weights, which makes it harder to do proper balance calculations.
- mschuster91 6y ago> And some shippers falsely declare container weights, which makes it harder to do proper balance calculations. Can't that be safeguarded against by adding a bit more smart tech to dock loading cranes? These cranes already have information on which container goes from where on the dock to where on the ship, and they also should have some sort of weight sensor or other feedback to prevent overloading the crane / its motor. So it should be possible to add a cross-check "container weighs x.yz tons, should weigh a.bc tons" and emit an alert in case of a too gross mismatch. This could also be used to prevent or at least detect smuggling of drugs and people as well as theft.
- Gwypaas 6y agoBecause efficiency is the name of the game. If you miss your slot time in a busy port you might spend some days or a week waiting on the next and now you have cascading logistics issues, both for the ship in question and the cargo getting sorted and sent forward. The real issue is stowage, sailing for example north Atlantic in the winter you need to expect bad weather but there seems to be a missmatch between the regular lashings and large stacks right up to the stack limit by weight wee see today. There's also designs like this [0] but that's more expensive to build and they lose 1-2 rows of containers. [0]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/G4-class_freighter https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/G4-class_freighter
- cableshaft 6y agoI know there was at least a couple of Kickstarter board games for Asmadi Games on there. They said this in the updates for the Good Puppers Kickstarter: "...The ship, weather-battered (severe storm/gale-force winds is the actual cause of the above mess) and generally displeased with 2020's Bad Plan, is turning around to hit the closest major port (Japan) to assess damage. With 15-25% of its goods changed to bads, we might be lucky or we might not be, but we won't know for a couple weeks at best. In the meantime, our factory is going to try and rush out a fresh print run of the game shipped to us as soon as possible. I shall, of course, share more details as I know them!" https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/asmadigames/all-the-goodest-puppers/posts/3040615 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/asmadigames/all-the-goo...
- helsinkiandrew 6y agoGood article about dangers (or not) of shipping containers to yachting and some of the solutions: https://www.yachtingworld.com/news/could-a-floating-shipping-container-sink-your-yacht-is-the-danger-to-sailors-real-or-imagined-107508 https://www.yachtingworld.com/news/could-a-floating-shipping...
- markdown 6y agoI guess that's how we get to see videos like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ983bvP5YU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ983bvP5YU
- ggop 6y agoDo containers have long life GPS trackers so we can track them in situations like this?
- eqvinox 6y agoContainers aren't really a uniform thing aside from their size and stacking. Whoever commissioned/owns the container could decide to put a tracker in, but to my knowledge (which is from "hobby curiosity") it's extremely rare. Also, the GPS trackers would stop working very quickly if the containers sink. Regular bulk shipping containers aren't waterproof so I'd expect the majority of the lost containers to be at the bottom of the ocean by now - at that point the trackers would neither receive GPS nor be able to send anything really. (cf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_submarines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_submarines )
- lm28469 6y agoWouldn't they just sink ? Most of the things shipped wouldn't survive a trip in salty water I assume, and even if they do I'd I doubt we'd spend any money on a rescue mission
- spurgu 6y agoMost would sink yes. Ideally all containers would be ensured to sink, except for those containing materials hazardous to the marine environment, in which case they should contain floats (activated upon being thrown into the sea) and an AIS transponder.
- daniellarusso 6y agoIf they did, the containers at the bottom of the stack would be blocked from getting a GPS signal. Last time I looked into this, which was over a decade, some of the containers at the top could have GPS and ZigBee, and would relay their position to the other container using ZigBee. I also remember that the company I worked for, I was told that we paid a premium to have our containers placed lower on the stack, in the event something like in the article occurred.
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- mckirk 6y agoI suppose we can be glad that at least the front didn't fall off.
- callamdelaney 6y agoAs a note these ships can carry up to 14,000[1] (!) 20ft containers. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird-class_container_ship https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird-class_container_ship
- saargrin 6y agoshoulda used docker-swarm or k8s for fault tolerance
- Tepix 6y agoThe sailing catamaran TS5 Hallucine hit a "UFO" (unidentified floating object) and sunk in November this year. One crewmember died. https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f158/ts5-hallucine-capsizes-off-spain-hit-ufo-242326.html https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f158/ts5-hallucine-caps... During this year's Vendée Globe non-stop single-handed around the world sailing regatta, three boats (of 33) had collisions with UFOs and had to abandon the race in the first 4 weeks.
- opwieurposiu 6y agoSlocombe had marauding islanders in canoes, these days we have containers. I have noticed more and more new boats are built with crash boxes at the front now. Does not really help if the container is floating a bit lower and rips your keel off. I think container detecting sonar is going to be very popular once the tech is perfected.
- azepoi 6y agoGitana 17 who attempted the Jules Verne trophy is also said to have collided with an UFO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jules_Verne_Trophy#Failed_record_attempts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jules_Verne_Trophy#Failed_reco... https://tropheejulesverne.sodebo.com/#cartographie https://tropheejulesverne.sodebo.com/#cartographie Sodebo ultim is still on it so far.
- mobilemidget 6y agoHow many containers were on board in total? Cannot seem to find that in article or in comments here on HN? After reading this title I was more suspected to think the whole boat sunk.
- jasoncartwright 6y agohttps://container-news.com/one-apus-may-have-lost-a-quarter-of-its-cargo/ https://container-news.com/one-apus-may-have-lost-a-quarter-...
- mbrd 6y agoI just saw last night that one of the plastic modeling/hobby shop owners I follow on YouTube had a container on board: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAR7UZ_6L3o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAR7UZ_6L3o
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- Harvey77 6y agoI was scammed by a binary option website iq options to be exact. I lost about $153,000 to them. It was a really hard time for me because that was all i had and they tricked me into investing the money with a guarantee that i will make profit from the investment.. I was referred to Mr Gary, he’s a senior recovery specialist and he helped in recovering all my lost funds to me. I couldn’t believe at first that this was possible as i have lost all hope in contacting anyone on the internet, but i guess not everyone is bad after all. You can reach him on cybertechhub100 at gmail dot com