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Three free meals available daily for any New Yorker
- arbitrage 7y agoNew York City, that is. Not New York State.
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- Zenst 7y agoAlso no kosher option. Still Halal and Vegetarian options available, so clearly some thought given and overlooked. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_New_York_City https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_New_York_City
- fraktl 7y agoIf I were given food for free when I have no food, I'd eat anything. Not a New Yorker, was through war when I was a kid, speaking from experience.
- Zenst 7y agoYet they singled out one religious dietary requirements whilst ignoring a whole demographic with a large populus and history of the area - colour me perplexed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_in_New_York_City https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_in_New_York_City Still, thank you for replying instead of blind downvote because antisemitisim has many forms it seems, even here :( [EDIT ADD] WOW this comment has gone up and down like crazy - was +4 few mins ago, now -2 (as I type) - I'm stepping away from this forum for a bit as I do not wish to draw sad conclusions that appear evident :((
- calvinmorrison 7y ago> because antisemitisim has many forms it seems, even here :( The Talmud describes plenty of instances when breaking the laws are the correct thing to do in cases of life and death. Starvation being one of them.
- Zenst 7y agoYes, and also one of the few avenues of legal suicide in the UK and many countries that do not easily or legally allow assisted suicide for those wanting it to avoid further suffering.
- blisterpeanuts 7y agoPerhaps it would make more sense to offer kosher rather than halal, since Muslims accept kosher, whereas Jews don't accept halal (because not blessed by a rabbi, I believe).
- Zenst 7y agohttp://dpointernational.com/the-differences-between-halal-kosher/ http://dpointernational.com/the-differences-between-halal-ko...
- kingkawn 7y agoYour comment is condemning the logistical choice while ignoring that there are many different kosher authorities and no one would satisfyingly serve the entire nyc religious Jewish community
- Zenst 7y agoIt was a valid observation based on the data at hand, but let's leave it at that. Thank you for taking the time to reply.
- kingkawn 7y agoThe data at hand indicates that there would not be a way to serve kosher food given the broad number of kosher authorities, many of whom are in direct conflict over religious validity making trying to appease them impossible. The nyc school system has lots of experience with these communities and knows what it is doing in terms of how to reach the most people.
- jshevek 7y ago>replying instead of blind downvote because antisemitisim has many forms it seems, even here :( [It damages the conversation when people assume] racism when there is no evidence of racism.
- Zenst 7y agoI wasn't assuming, just going by the data and evidence at hand and let's leave it at that. I'm off for a walk, not sure I'm comming back either.
- jshevek 7y ago"Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading."
- Zenst 7y agoAgreed - however in light of the sudden downvote withoutcomment, you kinda feel that people should not be allowed to downvote without comment and avoid turning this into reddit. I raised a fair and valid observation and yet, well, hard to ignore such things and I'm not going to debate why as politics is bad. Thank you for your concerns and not blindly dismissing the point as many have and did do. I'm going for a walk now, I may be some time.
- jshevek 7y ago>in light of the sudden downvote withoutcomment, you kinda feel I have felt similarly in the past, in similar situations. Play it through though, in a variety of cases, and we see why it's not just allowed, but a good thing.
- rsynnott 7y ago> as I do not wish to draw sad conclusions that appear evident The sad conclusion that appears evident would seem to be that you didn't do the research. Any commercial kitchen can, without significant difficulty, produce halal food. The same certainly isn't true of kosher food. Here's an account of making a (fairly simple) food factory kosher: https://www.star-k.org/articles/articles/getting-certified/certification-process/1368/how-to-kosher-a-plant-individual-stories/ https://www.star-k.org/articles/articles/getting-certified/c... . For a commercial kitchen, you likely have worse problems; beyond the initial setup, you'd at a minimum need segregated areas, utensils and appliances for milk, meat and neither. You'd also need a lot of training. There's no reason to think there's any anti-semitism here; it's just an issue of practicality.
- ars 7y agoThere's really no way for them to do it anyway, the rules of kosher are far too complex for them to implement. But do not worry, there are Jewish organizations helping those who need it.
- zelltech 7y agoDoesn't sound very inclusive. Would like to see some Vegan and Gluten-free dishes - might pop down with my recycled tupperware!
- tnel77 7y agoVegan and gluten-free really starts to balloon the already immense challenge they are facing trying to implement here. I feel bad for the three people that actually need gluten-free, but everyone else will have to eat “that deadly gluten!”
- Zenst 7y agoYou will find there are more than just `three` people given how many gluten-free restaurants there are in the area: https://ny.eater.com/maps/nyc-best-gluten-free-restaurants https://ny.eater.com/maps/nyc-best-gluten-free-restaurants Maybe you have data that shows those `three` people eat a lot and able to sustain all those restaurants?
- jshevek 7y agoI don't know how many people have a valid medical need to avoid gluten, but I do know that in certain subcultures it is popular to imagine one has a gluten intolerance. Edit: Just discovered spurious accusations of racism in this thread so let me clarify that the "certain subcultures" are not ethnic nor religious. I'm talking about the kind of people who believe in astrology, homeopathy, and acupuncture, who talk about fibromyalgia and craniosacral all the time.
- adrianN 7y agoMost vegetarian meals should be kosher, right? And I believe there are exceptions for unusual circumstances in the rules.
- Zenst 7y agoAFAIK yes, but then, they are just as equally Halal compliant and felt the need to specially cater for that group of dietary needs over another - would love to know the logic going on there upon this.
- rsynnott 7y agoIt's far, far easier to prepare halal food than kosher food, in that the halal rules are mostly just around ingredients. Kosher gets a _lot_ more complicated. For instance, essentially all vegetarian food is halal, but it probably isn't kosher.
- NovemberWhiskey 7y agoUh no. One of the primary reasons why kosher is more expensive and logistically difficult than some other dietary requirements are the requirements for separation of kitchen space, rules around treatment of utensils and so on.
- anthonypasq 7y agono one making vegetarian food is going to use utensils that have touched meat. So I dont see how vegetarian food could not be kosher. Am i missing something?
- adrianN 7y agoI recently learned that insects are not kosher, so some Jews don't consider figs to be kosher because of the fig wasps. There are probably more examples.
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- rashkov 7y agothe Masbia organization already has that covered
- ginko 7y agoAs far as I understand, food prepared by a non-Jew isn't kosher even if the ingredients are. This is not the case for halal food, which may be prepared by non-Muslims.
- gshdg 7y agoInterestingly, kosher food is usually considered acceptable under Halal but not vice-versa; so if they made kosher meals they'd be covering both.
- mehrdadn 7y agoI don't know where this widespread misconception has come from, but it is not true. Unless by "kosher food" you mean kosher lettuce and pickles or something, rather than meat.
- atdrummond 7y agoA homeless friend of mine is stuck in NYC and his family’s daily meals were (are) provided by this service - despite neither him nor his children being NYC residents. I am sure enough other adults (parents or otherwise) were receiving this food that making such disbursements allowed was mainly about legitimizing the good that was already occurring than accidentally admitting that significant amounts of people were presently being turned without food. TL;DR: I’m sure NY residents not in the city can get the food if so desired, especially as the system operates on the honor code.
- fart_ratty 7y ago> No registration or ID required So, it sounds like anyone that shows up can get food.
- atdrummond 7y agoI’m interested as to what is offensive about this reply.
- ebg13 7y agoBut in order to get them you have to congregate. :\
- kijin 7y agoNow would be the perfect time to start testing food delivery using drones. Bonus points if the drones can be sprayed with disinfectant after each flight.
- blisterpeanuts 7y agoDrones are probably reasonable enough in a residential neighborhood of single family homes and duplexes, less practical for a large apartment building (unless they can fly right in the window).
- adrianN 7y agoWhere do you get millions of drones in short order?
- TulliusCicero 7y agoNo, now would be a terrible time to start testing this. Now would be a good time to ramp up deployment of such a program if it was already consumer-ready, but testing? No.
- throwaway55554 7y agoIn every group, there's going to be a small percentage of people who are selfish (look at the TP situation). So, how do you keep those people from running out grabbing the supplies each time you drop? You can't possibly drop all the supplies at one time from a drone. This is a bad time to try drone drops.
- tnel77 7y agoAnd just like that, the number of people needing food plummets. Big yikes.
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- sjapps 7y agoThis is great but this encourages people to go out. The exact opposite of what we want right now. Deliver to people or just give them money so they can order online. We need to stop being greedy in this time.
- allochthon 7y agoYikes. This vaguely reminds me of Frostpunk. Things must be getting pretty bad in NYC.
- onetimemanytime 7y agocash in hand and/or packages with essentials is best, people will survive and then some. This will help spread the disease.
- jellicle 7y ago> packages with essentials These are literally boxed meals. Packages...with essentials.
- onetimemanytime 7y agomy point was the going out and assembling three times a day
- wan23 7y agoActually you only need to go once a day to get the three meals under this program.
- eternalban 7y agoWell, shutting down a modern city can makes things "pretty bad". People have to eat. There are other 'social patterns' that will also manifest in short order. Certainly should not be a surprise to a thinking person. I live in Brooklyn and very close to a hospital. It may be a "war zone" per NYTimes inside the hospitals (I can not verify that) but outside, including ambulance traffic, it is very quiet. Too quiet.
- numlock86 7y agoCan't wait for the pictures of overcrowded meal hubs on social media.
- Zenst 7y agoWell, let's see. Certainly going to happen in one form or another, may have organised spaced-out queue's at the locations but be bottlenecks getting there I do suspect. But gets down to the people acting responsibly in the end. You can lead a horse to water but you just can't get them to queue in an orderly manner.
- cs702 7y agoThis is wonderful to see and badly necessary, particularly in a country like the US, where most people do not have ability to cover a $500 surprise bill in normal times: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/most-americans-cant-handle-a-500-surprise-bill/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/most-americans-cant-handle-a-50... -- and we are definitely not in normal times. Kudos to the NYC administration for putting this together so quickly.
- ikeboy 7y agoThe data shows the median net worth is around 100k. I'm very suspicious of claims about what the average American can afford based on surveys. Often they ask people how they would pay for something, and if the answer is "credit cards" they interpret it as that they can't afford it, which is plainly nonsense. Edit: took a look at your source. >“The survey shows that a very significant minority of American households apparently don’t have the resources to pay for an unexpected expense of around $1,000,” says Stephen Brobeck, executive director of the Consumer Federation of America. Interesting how this morphed into the claim that a majority of Americans can't afford a $500 expense.
- twomoretime 7y agoAny survey driven study is soft science and subject to trivial agenda injection. It's unfortunate that so much survey driven "science" influences policy. People have learned to be wary I think of nutritional "studies" but it's taking them longer to catch on to the farcical nature of modern psychology. Which really IMO hasn't come that far from psychoanalysis of a few decades ago. And how could it? All of psychology is based on subjective, non-experimental, non-verifiable, non-reproducable data. We're watching all of our institutions collapse because it turns out not only are they (and individuals in our society) excessively interdependent, but they're also houses of cards...
- dmoy 7y agoWhat data shows median net worth around $100k? Does that include a house? Median household savings discluding a house, at retirement age, is just barely $100k (that is, enough to support retirement income above social security of a wopping ~$5k/year).
- JackPoach 7y agoNYC today, everywhere else in a few days/weeks. Without universal basic income, we are totally f@cked. 30-40% of people are without income and it's either soup kitchens and spike in crime, or UBI.
- _curious_ 7y ago"Without universal basic income, we are totally f@cked." Speak only for yourself.
- JCharante 7y agoAs in, don't speak for the non-americans or you think this problem isn't going to affect people with savings, because I think that a huge proportion of the population being broke will have consenquences for the rest.
- tnel77 7y agoThere are consequences for everyone, but some people may come out ahead on this one. I’ve locked in a crazy low refinancing rate on my mortgage, I’m going to refinance student debt, and my child staying home saves me A LOT since I don’t have to pay for daycare. There are consequences, but I may literally be better off financially (assuming the virus doesn’t get me). Edit: Example of consequences being my high-interest savings account has dropped about 1.5%, but everything else is going well so far.
- yalogin 7y agoWonder how they make the food? It’s a huge operation to undertake. A logistical nightmare. How can they estimate how many people will show up and how much to cook? Kudos to them to do this though.
- toomuchtodo 7y agoCommercial kitchens and rough estimates.
- dooglius 7y agoLooking at the meal info, it doesn't appear anything is being cooked so much as assembled (e.g. PB&J)
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- beerandt 7y agoIt's literally doing what they (school cafeterias) already were doing. It would be harder logistically to have shut it down than doing what they're doing now, having to lay off workers and cancel food contracts. The cafeterias have an existing capacity and are likely just producing the same amounts they usually do. They're able to give some away because it's not likely that every student shows up everyday (or at all), so there's plenty of excess. It's a good use of existing resources, but nothing logistically impressive.
- nojvek 7y agoSure, they had the system in place but the fact that so many people are fed is impressive (for free).
- tren-hard 7y agoOne of those things I wish could out last this virus. We'd be so much better off as a society if we could at least keep our people fed. The comments in here seem a little negative currently but this is great news. Think of all the people in NYC who didn't have access to clean and regular food before the virus.
- collyw 7y agoDo you get food banks in the US?
- gwbas1c 7y agoYes, but they usually rely on donations. Also, a lot of needy children get their primary meals at school.
- throwaway55554 7y agoIndeed. Our local school system has implemented a drive by food pickup so that the children and their family can pick up food.
- brewdad 7y agoOur district has been doing pick-up but mainly at the larger middle schools and high schools. Starting next week they will also be running a bus route through neighborhoods where kids can get lunch delivered between 10 and noon. I'm not sure how well it will work, but it at least shows an understanding that not all families can get to the handful of schools that are offering meals.
- Frost1x 7y agoWe have food banks in the US. Many are under heavy stress right now from what I understand. At least one food bank near me has already expressed needs for donations through local media sources.
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- jacksnipe 7y agoSo those of us with severe, non-voluntary dietary restrictions are just SOL huh?
- tyingq 7y ago"Vegetarian and halal options available at all sites" Doesn't solve every dietary restriction, but that's honestly more than I expected to be available. It seems well thought out.
- camhart 7y agoJust because they aren't able to serve your exact needs doesn't mean they shouldn't serve millions of others. Maybe if you reached out you could encourage them to provide whatever your exact needs are? My guess is it's more than just you in your shoes.
- ctdonath 7y agoIf you, fully aware, won’t prepare accordingly for special circumstances, why should strangers do it for you?
- kingkawn 7y agoYou gotta let each small victory be a victory, not tear everything apart for not being perfect
- j45 7y agoVegetarian meals are some of the most inclusive. Vegan meals can be a bit more dangerous though with their increased use of hidden nuts, etc.
- Junk_Collector 7y agoI wonder why this is done through the Department of Education and if they will continue such a program when schools are back in session. People normally don't like a bunch of random adults hanging around schools.
- _-___________-_ 7y agoMy guess is the DoE had a bunch of people without much to do, and a bunch of facilities not being used.
- mportela 7y agoThey were already doing that for NYC students, so I guess they are simply scaling the operation with the infrastructure and logistics already in place. Should this program continue after the pandemic, then it would be weird to keep running under DoE.
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- dmwallin 7y agoBecause the Department of Education has a ton of currently unused high capacity kitchens and access to supplies. In addition the DOE runs similar programs, such as a free summer lunch for kids, and so has the organizational know-how to run a program of this scope.
- Junk_Collector 7y agoRight, it all makes sense, I'm just curious about the process and long term scope of the program. The official announcement that I am aware of is pretty spartan. It also shows the conflict of wanting to keep as many people employed/working as possible while also wanting to keep people quarantined.
- throwaway55554 7y agoDoE is uniquely suited to preparing and serving large numbers of meals.
- blisterpeanuts 7y agoThe logistics behind this must be formidable. They would need hundreds of food preparers, all of them tested daily for COVID-19 and of course practicing strict hygiene in prep and packaging. Still it's probably easier to control than thousands of separate restaurants and food markets, which is undoubtedly their thinking: centralize food distribution to minimize risky contact. This is a sobering reminder of how dependent city dwellers are on a just-in-time food distribution network; most Manhattan apartments don't have a lot of storage space for an extended hunker down, nor room for a garden and chickens.
- jellicle 7y agoNYC had a pre-existing large scale school lunch program (more than lunches, they offered breakfast and after-school food too). It has been repurposed.
- Zenst 7y agoMany things have become " just-in-time", production, so much that depends upon things ticking along and any bump like this, sure does start toppeling many a dominio.
- sbuttgereit 7y agoI think over the coming weeks, we're going to see just how much of the "essential" part of the economy depends on the "non-essential" part. For example, a comment in one of these postings on HN was talking about how the manufacture of essential supplies was continuing and robust (even I've made a similar comment some time ago). But... ok... how much of the logistics capacity, the capacity of hauling those essential products from the factory to the final buyer is being impacted? And it's not just trailer cubic feet availability that's at issue... it's are those containers available in the right place at the right time? Greater cubic feet available for essential products in fewer overall containers is still a potential major problem. I have to think that a fair portion of the common carriers are dependent on a mix of "essential" and "non-essential" goods for their business and that some of these common carriers are marginal even during the "good times". Fewer trucks/trains/drivers/etc, mean that getting a truck scheduled to a loading dock on a timely basis is harder, even if available cubic feet for essential goods has risen. If my speculation holds, manufacture of essential goods will be robust, but there will still be shortages at the stores and for buyers simply because shutting down the non-essential has reduced available containers and the bottleneck has shifted to inventory logistics. I can repeat this sort of thing for many different parts of the economy; I went to get a replacement part for a computer keyboard... the company's website said they were closed under county order as a non-essential business.... yet food producers still need to use their computers to ensure they can monitor available shelf-life, etc. When we see broad pronouncements from politicians and bureaucrats talking about not shutting down essential businesses, I wonder if they appreciate how interconnected the modern economy is and that it doesn't simply break down into "essential" and "non-essential". Perhaps this sort of thing is why I so distrust those that would embrace economic central planning.
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- observer987 7y agoThis is a lifeline for workers who have been laid-off with no prospects of getting back to work anytime soon. Unfortunately, this may be the new normal...
- observer987 7y agoReminiscent of soup kitchens from the Great Depression.
- vsareto 7y agoI'm really interested to see if organized crime would do similar things this time around if they really declare a depression. I don't think they will.
- somacore 7y agoI would love if this were the new normal. Food for anyone, no questions asked? That's an America I'm proud of.
- elwell 7y agoThis is something that already existed I think.
- greenyoda 7y agoThe food pickup program existed for public school students ever since the schools were closed. Now it's being extended to all NYC residents.
- smoorman1024 7y agoI would be really interested to no what the cost of this program is. Even if it's above a modest cost I think it's something the city should look into providing going forward. We should consider providing basic services to all our residents no questions asked starting with food and hygiene services. I also think New York could be greatly improved by providing public bathrooms and showers.
- zxcvbn4038 7y agoVery awesome, not checking IDs so immigrant friendly. I think this is sorely needed with as many people out of work, especially immigrant families that aren’t getting stimulus checks, unemployment, mortgage moritiums, or any of the other benfits.
- ksj2114 7y agoThis is a great program, but also it is so so sad that this needs to be provided after 2 weeks of lock down. Really shows inequality in American society
- Theodores 7y ago"There are only nine meals between mankind and anarchy" - New Yorker and investigative journalist Alfred Henry Lewis, some time in 1906. In 'related searches': every society is three meals away from chaos mi5 four meals from anarchy every society is three meals away from chaos lenin the veneer of civilization is only nine hot meals deep there are only nine missed meals between mankind and anarchy So yeah. Two weeks in.
- CydeWeys 7y agoIt's really just an extension of the widely-used free lunch program in schools, which was already provided year-round. The only difference now is that adults can partake too; I wonder how many will. I'm not exactly raring to eat public school cafeteria quality food if I can afford alternatives.
- ping_pong 7y agoThis is great, but a sobering idea of how bad things really are. This sounds like Great-Depression-like conditions and feels like a "Don't look behind the curtains" moment as to how bad our economy really is for many, if not the majority, of people.
- seneca 7y agoHow is responding to a less than once in a lifetime pandemic a condemnation of the economy? The economy is largely shutdown.
- 1024core 7y agoSan Francisco started this when it closed the school 3 weeks ago. Any adult can walk up and pick up meals for themselves and their kids, no questions asked.
- pwaivers 7y agoDo you have a link for this? I see free meal for 18 and under in SF, but not for adults also.
- 1024core 7y agoThey don't ask for ID or proof of any kind. https://www.sfusd.edu/services/health-wellness/nutrition-school-meals https://www.sfusd.edu/services/health-wellness/nutrition-sch...
- flyGuyOnTheSly 7y agoSo they're using the closed schools with their commercial kitchens to do this. Interesting. At first I was hoping that they had partnered with restaurants, but this is pretty cool too.
- weinzierl 7y agoWe have sort of Meal Hubs ("Tafeln") here in Germany and from what I heard, most of them closed because of fear they turn into virus hubs. Some have recruited volunteers that deliver food to the doors but that doesn't help the homeless.
- nhlx2 7y agoI wish could be done in South Africa.
- londons_explore 7y agoFree food for all sounds more communist than capitalist... Not necessarily bad, but there are all kinds of flaws with planned economies, and if we slip into one without thinking what we're doing, we might repeat mistakes of history.
- billfruit 7y agoHow does the logistics of it work out, they operate an industrial scale kitchen is and ships food to various outlets. If it is prepared seperately at different outlets, then how they ensuring quality and standardization. May not be distributing MRE / Refugee type rations be easier ?
- greenyoda 7y agoThey're using the existing food service facilities in the NYC public schools, which are available since the schools are closed. The only difference is that they're packaging the food for pickup/takeout.
- wayanon 7y agoFantastic and tragic at the same time.
- sadfev 7y agoWhy is this being celebrated? Yes as a temporary measure it’s ok, will help save some lives. But govt will keep this indefinitely and ever expand its dirty reach and make shape us all into dependent leech.
- MKais 7y agoThis is great. Paris is offering 2 free meals a day to people in need. Delivered at home.
- blunte 7y agoI find it fascinating that it seems so many people are against (sometimes vehemently) against others getting free food and shelter. There is no excuse for a modern civilization to not ensure that everyone has basic human needs met. Sure, we can argue some details like, "Is Netflix really a basic human need?"... joking aside, we as humans should endeavor to ensure that all people have their Maslow pyramid filled in.
- throaway1990 7y agothat's impossible, all 5 levels? Forget it
- thepete2 7y agoI recall that level 5 (self actualization) is something only 2% of people achieve currently.
- gbjw 7y agoDoes Gallup do that survey? ('Are you self-actualized?') I suspect you're joking, but the notion that self-actualization can be measured with percentage points is a perversion of the term.
- fragsworth 7y agoI think the fear some people have is that if everyone has free food and shelter, we'll lose a massive portion of the labor force because they would have no need to work. It is not clear at all to me that it would be objectively good or bad, but some people appear to have picked the other side because they think we'd lose a lot of our nice things.
- avianlyric 7y agoThat makes the assumption that people don’t get bored doing nothing, and that peoples only motivation for work is money. I’ve always felt that’s a very reductive view of humanity. Boiling us down to simple automatons that only seek to eat and reproduce, nothing more. I would hope the vibrancy of human civilisation would be enough to show that isn’t true. Unfortunately people that seem to have little faith in humanity, alway believe that they, and their peers, are special and that the rest of humanity is a lost cause. That always makes me a little sad.
- eyegor 7y agoDamn socialists trying to feed the hungry. Next they'll be trying to shelter the poor, or heal the sick. In the richest country on earth, how can the government possibly afford to take care of its own citizens? /s
- jimmaswell 7y agoMisleading title - NYC residents only, or at least just a program inside NYC. Typical hubris from NYC implying the rest of the state (where they get their water from) doesn't exist.
- Havoc 7y agoThat's a great initiative. Basic "you won't go to bed hungry" removes a major stress factor from people's lives who are down on their luck
- SeanFerree 7y agoLove this!!
- astroalex 7y agoSomeone has made a nicer map of where you can get meals: https://nycfreemeals.com/ https://nycfreemeals.com/
- gregsadetsky 7y agoThanks, Alex. That site/map is by me. It's a cached / high availability version of the "Meal Location Search" site. As that site was crumbling under traffic (response times > 10s) and did not have a map, I've decided to publish its data to GitHub and redo the site. Above the map, there's a link that opens the map in the Google Maps app on mobile. The geocoded data is here: https://github.com/gregsadetsky/nyc-free-meals-covid https://github.com/gregsadetsky/nyc-free-meals-covid Ping me for any questions / comments -- gs@gregsadetsky.com I would love to make this nationwide. Where do we start?
- err4nt 7y agoThis will undoubtedly help a lot of people - something worth emulating in other places as well!
- DonCopal 7y agoHow are they going to check that you don't go multiple times? Also, how are you going to prove how many children you have? So a father goes first and says "give me meals for my 5 kids", then a mother goes a bit later and says "meals for my 7 kids, please" and then a mother-in-law if she lives with them can pick up some more.
- Footkerchief 7y agoWhy would someone go multiple times? Because they're still hungry? To resell it to someone who... can also get free food?
- DonCopal 7y agoTo stock upon food to have available after the pandemic. Over many days you could amass quite a lot.
- heylook 7y agoLooking at the menus, it seems like they're generally serving quite low-cost meals. I'm curious what the parameters of the cost-benefit would need to be for it to make economic sense. How many people would need to "cheat" for how many meals per day to make up for the operational cost of implementing a given safeguard? How much food could a person stockpile before it starts going bad more quickly than they can make some other use of it?
- thekevan 7y agoDammit, New York City is not all of New York! A "New Yorker" is anyone who lives in the state, despite the claims that NYC lays on it. I'm a New Yorker as New York is the state a live and a 7 hour drive from NYC. Not that I was expecting the meals for myself, but the title would lead me to believe people in my community could be helped.
- identity0 7y agoYou should be able to tell the difference between a New Yorker living in NYC and a New Yorker living in NY state using the context. How do you expect 3 meals to be given to anyone living in NY state? Will they ship the meals using the postal service? Or is there a network of people giving out free food in every little town in the state? Neither one is realistic. Also, the website is literally "nyc.gov".
- pgt 7y agoWow, this is amazing.
- rodneyg_ 7y agoGreat to see.
- 205guy 7y agoThis reminds me of the government run Amma Canteens in parts of India. Interestingly, they are not free but very low cost: 5 rupees or $0.07 for a plate of curry. Apparently this is 20-25% of the cost of equivalent food from a private vendor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amma_Unavagam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amma_Unavagam https://www.thebetterindia.com/79947/low-cost-canteens-amma-canteen-annapurna-rasoi-india/ https://www.thebetterindia.com/79947/low-cost-canteens-amma-...