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Glimpse: A Photo Editor For Everyone
- bichiliad 7y agoThe FAQ's page is more useful than the homepage for now, it seems: https://glimpse-editor.org/about/#why-are-you-forking https://glimpse-editor.org/about/#why-are-you-forking
- MetaDark 7y agoGift: A Distributed Version Control System For Everyone
- Aeolun 7y agoalias gift=git Right?
- lxe 7y agoTook some clicking to realize this was a GIMP fork -- the author strongly feels that GIMP as a name is offensive.
- PunksATawnyFill 7y agoHe pretends to feel that, anyway.
- true_religion 7y agoI’ve never heard the word gimp without reference to the software or the clothing style. Whatever other meanings it might have had in the part are unused anachronism in my experience.
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- krat0sprakhar 7y agoGlad to know I wasn't the only one who felt uneasy with the original name: https://glimpse-editor.org/about/#what-is-wrong-with-the-gimp-name https://glimpse-editor.org/about/#what-is-wrong-with-the-gim...
- asjw 7y ago> we believe that a joke name some find offensive and distracting presents an unnecessary obstacle to wider adoption That could be a valid theory if GIMP wasn't the most popular open source raster editor, while none of the forks come even close Besides, there are at least a few billion people in the world, including me, that haven't watched pulp fiction in English and GIMP for us just means GNU Image Manipulation Program
- lynndotpy 7y agoAnecdotally, I've had three experiences so far where the name "GIMP" got its usage rejected. Two of these were in two different K-12 institutions.
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- anthk 7y agoAnd your case for a _global_ (Hello Americans, you are not isolated, your software is used worldwide) experience is totally irrelevant. We used GIMP in Spain for a lot of time and no one knew the original meaning of "Gimp". Ever. Neither for the BDSM context, nor for the "cripple" one. Just an image editor.
- lynndotpy 7y agoI believe you're arguing against a strawman, as I never made an argument for a "global experience". My experiences indeed occurred in America, where the name GIMP was an obstacle to its adoption. It's a linguistic issue, so it shouldn't surprise anyone if it differs with language.
- imjasonmiller 7y agoI haven’t been able to use GIMP a lot yet, but I unfortunately didn’t find it to be as intuitive as similar software, e.g. area selection. Does Glimpse differ in this area or does it have plans to?
- sudosysgen 7y agoIt's a fork of GIMP with a different name, basically.
- kalium_xyz 7y agoIs there progress being made beyond rebranding?
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- Polylactic_acid 7y agoNope.
- dotancohen 7y agoThey plan to use a different UI, which is in progress and as per the FAQ will not be ready for several years.
- Polylactic_acid 7y agoIs anyone actively working on it? That new UI has been the plan for a very long time now.
- Pedrit0 7y agoA "glimpse" of the tremendous changes made to Glimpse in the latest release: Windows Improvements Translation files are now included in the MSI installer #240 Glimpse Image Editor and GNU Image Manipulation Program no longer share the same task bar icon #247 Windows installer now supports upgrading existing installations #314 UI Improvements “Color” icon pack and “Gray” UI theme have been reinstated #232 The “fun” brushes have now been removed #286 Upstream contributors and translators are now appropriately credited through the UI #228 Renamed the “Gimpressionist” plug-in to “Impressionist” #267 Fixed various problems in translation files #230 #238 Fixed text color chooser that still used Wilber icon and upstream name #250 Fixed “legacy” UI theme in Snapcraft #271 Code Improvements Moved build folder to build-aux to follow GNOME conventions #233 Added packaging documentation to the snap and flatpak folders to match windows-msi #305 Fixed make check so we can produce source tarballs for Linux distribution maintainers #251 A real joke....
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- seemslegit 7y agoHow about CHUMPS - a fork of glimpse that benefits from the 20+ years of GIMP contributor effort and the professional UI of glimpse contributors effort (should such a thing materialize) but is being offered as a white-label to be branded for pay to whatever organization or movement that feels like it needs an open-source image editor that uncompromisingly represents its values ?
- awinter-py 7y agodo closed-source image editors like photoshop have a friendly plugin architecture? is there an OSS ecosystem already locked onto adobe, or is there an opportunity for gimp / glimpse to become a platform as well as a batteries-included product
- anthk 7y agoAmericans should learn the rest of the world doesn't go around them and GIMP is not offensive to the 90% of the population which just has a basic/technical/specialized English level with zero knowledge of the BDSM jargon. If some Spanish guy named the image editor as "cojo", no one would care. Albeit it would be even worse commercially (cojo means one-legged, but also can mean unfinished or unpolished, as for lacking a base). Also, bonus track: it can also mean the first singular person of the verb "coger" in the present form, which in Spain just means to grab/to take, (I grab/take for "cojo") but it means "to fuck" in South America. We in Spain are trully aware of this and no one cares to switch from "coger" to "tomar" in order to talk to the rest of the Spanish speakers across the Atlantic. They know our "coger" well and they are used to it.
- blululu 7y agoThis misses the point about why it is bad to offend people. A lot of people may find something perfectly acceptable, but that is no reason to be rude to the ones who do find it offensive. In this case there are negligible downsides to simple using a different word, and this makes the product more inclusive to a large number of people (maybe small as a percentage, but a large number nonetheless).
- anthk 7y agoRenaming a product won't make it more inclusive. Add features, and stop caring on jargon issues. Real life people won't care at all.
- blululu 7y agoNames definitely do make products more or less inclusive, and this is a core part of internationalization. If you call your product 'Anti-Christ', expect that some people will not want to use it. Most communities find certain things offensive, and it is a good idea to be considerate of their feelings and steer clear of them when there is nothing at stake. If this project were just a name change, I would agree that it is a waste of time, but they are also making UI improvements, which in my opinion are badly needed in GIMP. A name change is fine in the context of a UI overhaul and maybe also a good idea since the interface is pretty foundational to the most critical part of the application.
- mdszy 7y agoImagine being half the commenters in this thread and getting so incredibly angry about people not liking a software name, so they decide to fork it. Isn't that the entire point of open source?
- krapp 7y agoThe cognitive dissonance is surprising. The same people who probably would have said being offended by the name "Gimp" makes you an SJW snowflake are now getting triggered by a fork using another name, because they're offended by political correctness.
- shirakawasuna 7y agoThat's how just about everyone who gets regularly offended by "political correctness" is. Extremely easily offended by innocuous things.
- Pedrit0 7y ago"political correctness" is not innocuous thing. It drains the ideas and the energy of those who are indignated by some aspects of our world. These people should fight to change the world and they just change words. It is easier to fight on the symbolic level than in the real world. And in the same time the world goes on drifting as symbols will not stop it. You could have expected that these Glimpse "symbolic heroes" would have invest time and energy to promote that people in the US do not use the word "gimp" anymore... Or even better they could have dedicated their life to help the disabled. Nope they found it more useful to rename a Photoshop-like program... It is the matter with the US so-called left. They are totally useless.
- krapp 7y agoNo, this is literally a completely innocuous thing and people are bent out of shape over it and acting exactly like the stereotypical leftists they complain about and it's hilarious.
- mikkkee 7y agoNice! I can't say no to this project if it indeed has a more visually satisfying UI.
- Pedrit0 7y agoThe Glimpse project is absurd. Energy wasted to fork an iconic program for obscure reasons. Politically correctness can be so ridiculous sometimes.
- Ghjklov 7y agoIt'll be good if they can improve on the abomination that is GIMP. Glimpse will be worth using even if all they do is implement a way to draw circles.
- Kye 7y agoYou can make a selection, set x and y to the same number in the tool options, then fill it. I would like a dedicated circle tool too.
- Ghjklov 7y agoI've seen some hilarious work arounds to do it. But it's funny to think it's been over 20 years of development, and there's still no circle tool.
- Polylactic_acid 7y agoThere is a circle selection tool. Using that you can also draw circles on the image with the trace selection button.
- Ghjklov 7y agoAlright I'll entertain this. I'm in GIMP right now. Used the circle selection tool to select a circle that I want to make a circle with. I looked under Selection and also under Tools > Selection Tools in the top menu, but I couldn't find a "trace selection button". I don't see such a button in the circle selection toolbox settings either. Genuinely baffled, I almost feel dumb for not being able to find it. My point though, is in any other image editor, you click the circle tool and start making circles in 2 seconds.
- robbrown451 7y agoThe name GIMP is awful and it is a shame the maintainers are so stubborn about it. Unfortunately this seems to be a mostly one person effort and is mostly about changing the name, so I'd be surprised it got far. It's a shame GIMP has improved so little in the last decade or so. Compare it to Blender, which is an incredibly polished product comparatively.
- Kye 7y agoThis is great. The response for decades to suggestions to change the name was "fork it if you don't like the name." Someone finally took them up on it and we get to see what happens with two competing open source image editors.
- Aeolun 7y ago> If you are offended by the fact we renamed the project, we suggest you continue using the GNU Image Manipulation Program instead of annoying our contributors and making more work for our moderators. Isn’t that ironic
- PunksATawnyFill 7y agoWTF, they forked GIMP because they didn’t like the NAME? That alone is reason enough to shun the project. Douchey.
- solarkraft 7y agoI don't mind the GIMP name and if Glimps is really just a rebranding I see no reason to use it. But if they're actually going to fix its glaring UX problems I'll be all over that.