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Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)
- firefoxd 8y agoAnimalus Anthropomorphicus, "the animal as seen through the human eyes." I think Dindim has found a source of free food. Although it's a win win because who doesn't want to be visited by a penguin.
- sudhirj 8y agoVery unlikely that any animal will swim hundreds or thousands of miles to a free food joint, there’s easier ways to eat. And there’s biologists on record saying that this imprinting does happen with handlers and they try to avoid it in research situations.
- andai 8y agoDo you recall any specific methods for preventing imprinting?
- logfromblammo 8y agoHandlers wear sock puppets resembling the target species, and interact via the puppet while the human face pretends to be ignoring the action. If the animals imprint on the puppet, it stops existing when the handler takes it off, and the nearest alternatives are live animals of their own species.
- LitFan 8y agoIs that confusing or damaging to the animal? Do they perceive the "stops existing" as dying? Should the handler remove the sock puppet out of view of the animal?
- sudhirj 8y agoNot a biologist, but I've always found my dog interesting if I step on him by mistake. He barks and snaps at my shoes, trying to attack them. Stops if I take them off, and it doesn't alter his relationship with me in any way. It's like the shoe on me is a distinct animal from the shoe off me, and neither of them is related to me in any way.
- riku_iki 8y ago> swim hundreds or thousands of miles Some penguins can fly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dfWzp7rYR4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dfWzp7rYR4
- Semaphor 8y agoThis is a hoax for those who don't know.
- dddddaviddddd 8y agoSee also (more details): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzhDsojoqk8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzhDsojoqk8
- princekolt 8y agoI had never seen this video before, but as soon as I saw the presenter was Terry Jones I was 100% sure it was a joke. Edit: He seems to be particularly interested in making penguin jokes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k1ccguXiws https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k1ccguXiws
- agumonkey 8y agoAnimals, unless deprived, are very capable of feeding themselves .. my old grandma's cat still brings whatever she finds at night.
- anigbrowl 8y agoI find the people quickest to go on about anthropomorphism tend to have the least experience with animals. When you think about it.'s quite the intellectual conceit to assume you fully understand the decision-making of another creature and that it is entirely dependent on food. Reminds me of certain economic ideologues who insist everyone, whether they know it or not, is motivated by money and self-advancement.
- justtopost 8y agoSo, taking a dig at capitolism and rational thinking in one swipe? This is a website devoted to exploiting technology for capitolism. Yc is literally an investor. But go on and tell us how not advancing ourselves benefits the world at large, Ill wait.
- beaconstudios 8y agoAnti capitalist sentiment is actually pretty common here, both this site and the tech industry are well populated with liberals and leftists alike.
- gaius 8y agoliberals and leftists alike Of the limousine variety, mind.
- beaconstudios 8y agoWell, yeah, most of them are.
- a3n 8y agoWait ... I can't be a liberal and a capitalist? I have to be a full on caricature of a capitalist? Can I take a liberal position, say LGBT equality, and be a capitalist?
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- aaron695 8y agoHN loves fake news firefoxd, not much point trying, especially with all the signs it's fake - From a foreign language, lots of chance of mistranslation. Country with average/below standard news quality. Way to cute and internetable. From the biologist who was quoted in the story, who is also only one biologist and has not got peer reviewed work done with this story - because Dindim was rescued, fed and stayed with Mr. Joao for the entire part of the year where the species usually stay in the beach and breed, along the coast of Patagonia, it imprinted Ilha Grande as it’s land based home instead. When all the Magellanic penguins are going to Patagonia, Dindim goes to Ilha Grande and recognises Mr. Joao. Penguins are usually very loyal to their partner. They may live for over 25 years and usually mate with the same individual in the same nest every year. This site and partner fidelity certainly facilitated the development of the relationship between Dindim and Mr. Joao. The relationship was created by the accident suffered by Dindim and by Joao having rescued him. etc - https://www.facebook.com/joaopaulo.krajewski/posts/1008600529225514 https://www.facebook.com/joaopaulo.krajewski/posts/100860052...
- jackpeterfletch 8y agoIs it possible the penguin thinks this is his mate?
- karlshea 8y ago> He believes that Dindim now interprets Proveta as his home, and imprinted on the 71-year-old, whom Dindim sees as a partner. For reasons like these, most professionals try to avoid this circumstance.
- agumonkey 8y agosome penguins were said to be lifelong partners..
- boomlinde 8y agoYes, this possibility is mentioned in the article.
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- tzs 8y ago> It's technically illegal to have a wild animal as a pet in Brazil, as officials want to ensure vulnerable creatures don't get separated from their families and that they can be reintroduced into the wild after injury. Same where I am. I've wondered, though. What constitutes a pet? For example, I give peanuts to the wild squirrels around my house. This is not illegal where I live. It is illegal, however, to keep a wild squirrel as a pet. Several of the squirrels seem to recognize me, and run up to me when I go out, get up on their hind legs, and wave their front paws around in a gesture that looks like they are asking for peanuts. I'm pretty sure some of them would come inside to get their peanuts if I opened the front door but did not go outside. From there I could probably train them to essentially be pets [1]. But would they legally be pets, and therefore illegal, if they were free to come and go at will? Or would they simply be wild animals coming into human space, which happens to be controlled by a human who isn't going to make them leave? A co-worker had a similar situation with a raccoon. He was giving her food, and she got more and more comfortable with him, to the point she would come right up, and peacefully accept food and petting. She even brought her babies by apparently to show them to him. Was he legally keeping a pet raccoon? [1] I don't actually want squirrels in my house. In fact, I've done some looking into squirrel traps in case one does come in and I need to get it out. That almost happened a couple of times when I was tossing peanuts from the door, and one squirrel startled another from behind, causing the first squirrel to dash forward right toward my door.
- gerbilly 8y ago> I've wondered, though. What constitutes a pet? We don't need categories to be so rigid. I have some squirrels in the yard who recognise me and follow me around until I feed them. I call them 'yard pets'. Sometimes they come into the house when they are too excited, but I've never had trouble escorting them out. I don't particularly like the idea of laws getting in the way of my relationship with animals, even if they are wild.
- shliachtx 8y ago> We don't need categories to be so rigid. For the purposes of law we do. > I don't particularly like the idea of laws getting in the way of my relationship with animals, even if they are wild. And yet there is a case to be made for these laws to prevent animals from abuse, etc. These kinds of laws are usually well-served by having an attached definition of what constitutes a pet as it is used in the law. The more defined a law is, the less likely it is to get in the way where it isn't supposed to.
- airstrike 8y agoThis is the most heartwarming thing I've read in a long time! It's like a real-life Pixar short. I know I will come back to this article many times in the future. Thank you very much for sharing. "Dindim" is a slang for money in Brazil, but in a very cute way. "Money" is "dinheiro" in Portuguese so Dindim is like saying the first part of the word twice.
- timthorn 8y ago> It's like a real-life Pixar short. You mean Lost & Found, by Oliver Jeffers? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lost-Found-DVD-Philip-Hunt/dp/B001CE0GAM https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lost-Found-DVD-Philip-Hunt/dp/B001C... It predates this real life story, but has very strong echoes...
- sls 8y agoreduplication[1], in case you find that sort of thing interesting. Almost exact reduplication, bar the ending - is ending in -in or -din allowed in Brazilian Portuguese? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reduplication https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reduplication
- thomasfortes 8y agoI may be wrong but I guess that we don't have any words in portuguese that ends with in or din.
- linfocito 8y agoIn Brazillian portuguese, the only words ended with "n" are scientific names (neologisms?) with a latin radical, e.g. elétron, próton, nêutron, pólen, plâncton, necton, etc. In European portuguese, while the above forms are also common, the alternatives "electrão, protão, neutrão" are often found.
- airstrike 8y agoWords can't end in "n" in Portuguese (Brazilian or otherwise), so the "n" is replaced with an "m" with very few exceptions like pólen (polen). It's worth noting that in Portuguese we don't pronounce the ending "m" or "n" for that matter. In other words, your lips don't touch at the end of "dindim". Both the "n" and the "m" in that word only serve to turn the short i into a nasal i. Try pronouncing the word "inn" without letting your tongue move at all and you'll get the idea, if you're not familiar with the sound. "N"s also can't come before "P" or "B", in which case they also get replaced by "m". This is true in Spanish as well, though the first rule isn't.
- pmarreck 8y agoTo forgive the tautology, intelligent creatures are intelligent. Which also means that love is possible. I mean... every person who's ever had a pet (of any sort) understands this (as I stare at the photo of my recently-deceased and very-charismatic cat). It may not fit into any naturalistic model that clearly separates humans from these other intelligent creatures (and ascribes all perception of humanlike feeling to "anthropomorphism"), but nevertheless, that is how I believe it is. They play, they feel pain, they get bored, they get hungry, they get (ahem) horny, they get excited/happy, they love (perhaps dimmer versions than the ones we're familiar with, but anyway). Sometimes my cat would make sounds in the dark of night that sounded like... ennui. If anything actually separates us from the animals, it's not these things- it's things like music appreciation or creativity. All the other experiential things we're familiar with seem to be shared with them. (And yet... I continue to eat bacon. sigh. I've met pigs that were clearly happy to see a friendly face of any species... haunts me, actually.)
- uhtred 8y agoHow can you continue to eat other animals if you feel the way you do about other animals?
- shashwatak 8y agoBecause they're delicious :(
- uhtred 8y agoSo a brief moment of taste pleasure is worth the suffering and killing of another creature that feels physical and emotional pain?
- perfmode 8y agoI oscillate between reason and impulse. We are creatures of habit and the environment in which we act is full of nudges toward omnivorous decisions.
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- Memosyne 8y agoWhen I was a child, a school teacher showed me this hoax video of flying penguins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dfWzp7rYR4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dfWzp7rYR4. Unfortunately, for a brief period of my childhood, I was under the assumption that penguins could indeed fly. By the time I had uncovered my teacher's subterfuge, I had already made a fool of myself by publicly positing that such penguins existed. Admittedly, my teacher was only playing a prank on me -- but ever since that incident I have been distrustful of penguins. I genuinely hope that one day I can overcome this irrational view and appreciate the flightless birds.
- projectramo 8y agoYeah, it turns out that those birds were not flying but were actually launched from catapults. One of them even landed in a pig sty and was the inspiration behind the game "angry birds." You should definitely update your friends on social media now that you know.
- funkaster 8y agoYou're talking about a different hoax. This was most likely CGI (more info in the wikipedia link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_penguin_hoax https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_penguin_hoax)
- warent 8y agoI think that was the joke. projectramo was spreading misinformation while encouraging the op to share it, thus reliving the previous experience of repeating hoaxes as facts
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- agumonkey 8y agoWe have to eat.. but if we hadn't I'd be happy never have to harm another living form. It's how nature is built .. but still.
- uhtred 8y agoWe don't have to eat animals though. Vegans and vegetarians manage to live very healthy lives.
- WalterSear 8y agoI've been vegan 20 years. Big, socially-censured changes can seem daunting, but anyone who says you can't eat well, and easily, is fooling themselves. You either live your values, or come to terms with being part of what you don't like about the world.
- agumonkey 8y agoNot what I was saying. Eating meat is natural, it's been for cosmic ages, and to an extent I have no issue with that. The mass globalized consumption does bother me. I reduce my consumption. I might try vegan but I'll surely miss all the meat based products. Maybe I'll find a middle point by breeding, killing producing it myself so at least I did it on my own, think what you want, there's a form of respect in that. I don't think I will enjoy 100% vegan. Another option is synthetic meat, we'll see.
- hn_throwaway_99 8y ago> Eating meat is natural, it's been for cosmic ages, and to an extent I have no issue with that. That's true, but I think a similar argument can be made that any situation where the more powerful control the less powerful is natural, e.g. slavery, patriarchy, etc. That said, I think the first step for everyone is to realize the cognitive dissonance that modern society tries to keep in place when it comes to eating meat (i.e. meat is just a nice, tasty hunk of protein that comes wrapped in plastic and styrofoam from the grocery storeand is in no way related to that adorable cow video I saw on Instagram). If that were more common I think many people would try to at least consume animal products more humanely as you have suggested.
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- SeanFerree 8y agoLove it!
- rurp 8y agoWhen I was a kid my family raised three young kestrels (small birds of prey that look like a hawk) who had lost their mother. They had an outdoor enclosure and we did not handle them much, but they understandably got attached. Once we released them, they stayed in the area and would often swoop out of the sky and land on my head. It gave visiting neighbors and friends quite a surprise! We gradually saw less of the birds as they ventured farther out and eventually they moved on completely.
- grimgrin 8y agowhat'd it feel like to have the bird land on your head? were you wearing a hat?
- abecedarius 8y agoThe time a small bird landed on my shoulder, I thought someone had tapped my shoulder until I started turning around and it flapped off.
- rurp 8y agoI didn't wear a hat and could feel their talons gripping/pulling my hair. It was only slightly uncomfortable, they seemed pretty concious of not causing any harm. I did have the sense that it would really suck if they did clamp down hard.
- gerbilly 8y agoWe have wild chickadees and nuthatches which eat out of our hands in our backyard.
- test9753 8y agoVideo of the penguin & the man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oks2R4LqWtE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oks2R4LqWtE
- erikig 8y agoDindim goes off for months at a time, swimming thousands of miles, avoiding predators, encountering other penguins, better looking and more interesting penguins, but in his mind there's a picture of a man, and a location, from many years ago, that he feels compelled to return to, every year. I got a little teary thinking about this.
- reecestart 8y agoGiven he was found in 2011 and Magellanic penguins live to about 20 years of age[1] he's at least half-way through his lifespan, maybe longer. Couple that with de Souza's age and soon enough there'll be a time when they go to meet and one or the other won't be there. [1] http://www.penguins.cl/magellanic-penguins.htm http://www.penguins.cl/magellanic-penguins.htm
- adolfojp 8y agoWhy did you do this to me?
- soniaplants 8y agoso cute
- mark_l_watson 8y agoGreat story. Birds can be intelligent interesting animals. (I have a pet parrot who I dote on - my favorite pet ever. Got him as a baby from a local breeder 15 years ago and he is still a young bird.)
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- Johnny555 8y agoThis makes me feel sad for one of them when the other one inevitably dies and can't make the meet up.