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Apple Special Event [video]
- guessmyname 8y agoWatch the Apple Keynote via MPV or VLC using the following link [1]. [1] https://p-events-delivery.akamaized.net/189kljhbasdcvjhasbdscvoahsbdcvaoshdbvaosdhbvasodhjbv/m3u8/hls_mvp.m3u8 https://p-events-delivery.akamaized.net/189kljhbasdcvjhasbds...
- what_ever 8y agoThe Apple.com video works for me on Chrome on Linux just FYI.
- applecrazy 8y agoSame here for Apple.com, Chrome, Windows 10.
- singularity2001 8y agoEven worked in FF on linux. THAT is progress!
- applecrazy 8y agoI heard it also was streamed on Twitter. That’s the next level of progress.
- lathiat 8y agoThat's new, all previous keynotes it didn't work in Chrome at all as it didn't support the streaming stuff they were using. Needed Safari or (surprisingly) Edge.
- asaph 8y agoApple just announced the iPhone Xs. Surgical grade stainless steel. 3 finishes: Gold, Silver, Space Gray. New glass. Waterproof, saltwater proof, even beer proof. 5.8" screen. Still has a notch like the iPhone X. Improved FaceID.
- koolba 8y ago> ... even beer proof. Is beer proofing that different from regular waterproofing? I can imagine juice leaving sugar residue and being sticky. Does beer have similar issues?
- noncoml 8y agoPretty underwhelming. Is it a sign for the years to come? I am thinking about shorting AAPL.
- Apocryphon 8y agoIt's a tock year.
- becauseiam 8y agoOf course it's going to be underwhelming - the smartphone market is completely saturated, and the margins on technology advancements in the space are diminishing more and more over time. People are holding onto their devices for much longer these days and the mad rush to get the next best thing is waning. Personally I think this is a good thing as the market is reaching some sort of sustainable, stable ground and no longer in a huge "race to the bottom" as it were.
- johnflan 8y agoThey didn't give much detail on the improved FaceID
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- jarsin 8y agoTLDR: "It's our newest most beautiful ever."
- aklemm 8y agoAlso in...credible.
- lanestp 8y agoI can't believe they named a phone X[s]. How can they not see everyone calling it "iPhone excess?"
- ct0 8y agofirst thing i thought. Iphone Max Excess
- zelos 8y agoiPhone Tens?
- azhenley 8y agoiPhone XS Max... Extra Small Max is Medium?
- kgwxd 8y agoExtra Small Max == Small Min - 1
- spike021 8y agoPronounced as "iPhone Ten Smacks"
- nickpp 8y agoI can’t believe they didn’t call the Xs Max - XL instead. I mean they have an XS and an XL size...
- mschaef 8y ago"XL" has some negative connotations for Apple: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_XL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_XL
- cuspycode 8y agoNegative in what way? In my experience they were excellent machines that had much better overall performance than the original "toaster" models. Their main problem was that they had non-square pixels, but people put up with that for many use-cases.
- vedtopkar 8y agoFDA approval to market the new Apple Watch as a medical device is a huge deal.
- wintorez 8y agoMay I ask why is it a huge deal?
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- mandeepj 8y agoIt is not easy to get any FDA approval. Companies go bankrupt after spending millions and still don't get approved.
- johnnyfaehell 8y agoWhen you have more money than the government that’s no so much of a problem.
- mandeepj 8y agoYes, Apple is excluded from that statement. The company which had a budget of $1 billion for their new headquarters and end up spending $5b :-)
- mpweiher 8y agoAnd have that still be a rounding error on their balance sheet. :-)
- masklinn 8y agoTechnically Apple has more money than some governments, it's nowhere near the US Government's: Apple's entire assets could pay for under 18 months of net interest on the public debt (263bn in 2017).
- tosh 8y agoHow does the iPhone X s max differ from the iPhone X?
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- rstupek 8y agothe screen is .8 diagonal bigger
- tosh 8y agoty, just realized the displays & cpu is different
- singularity2001 8y agoI thought all are A12 chips?
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- masklinn 8y ago"Max" is the new "Plus", it designates the larger phone in the lineup. And the X/XS is about the same screen size as the old Plus (slightly larger at 5.8 v 5.5) so the entire lineup was bumped up a screen size. I expect the yet unannounced 3rd phone in the lineup (apparently "Xr") will be the same screen size as the old regular, in a smaller package, and a replacement of sorts for the SE. edit: well I was wrong, apparently it sits between the XS and the Max, with completely different capabilities…
- wnissen 8y agoYeah, not sure what is going on with there being no truly hand-sized phone available except the SE. You could fit a much bigger screen in that form factor, it would have a huge (pun intended) impact. Instead you see a bunch of bezel-less phones hanging precariously out of pockets.
- mereel 8y agoThey just said the new A series processor is made with a 7nm process. That's pretty neat
- xkr 8y agoIt might be a dummy question, but what does FDA clearance mean exactly? Does it make the watch a medical-grade device and I can do ECG using the watch instead of going to the hospital?
- mereel 8y agoI missed the part in the stream about FDA clearance, but my guess is yes, it would be some sort of medical device. However comparing the ECG functionality available for an apple to watch to even a standard portable 12-lead ECG is like comparing a slide rule to a modern GPU. It is definitely _not_ a replacement for going to the hospital, but it is a novelty and might be a good way to tell someone when they should go to the hospital to get checked out.
- sho 8y ago> it is a novelty I'm sure those millions of people who have hospital-grade ECG machines at home have no need for this toy, but for those few who don't, it sounds like an absolute game-changer that could really save lives. The best medical device, like the best camera, is the one you actually have with you when you need it - and as someone who has occasionally worried about what feels like a weird heartbeat, I'll be buying this "novelty" instantly.
- badloginagain 8y agoI would expect seniors to be a sizable portion of Apple Watches. Being FDA approved for tracking health would be a huge draw for this audience. Watch Apple implement a subscription service to call emergency contacts in the event of a health event detected by the Watch.
- waterphone 8y agoIt does this by default without a subscription service in the event of a detected fall if you do not respond to an alert within a certain amount of time. Hope nobody falls on their watch and are uninjured but break the touch sensor, preventing them from being able to cancel the 911 call…
- mixmastamyk 8y agoWish they would target battery life/optimize OS further. 512GB storage, what to do with that? Perhaps long-form video. Cook wearing white shoes after Labor Day, tsk tsk. Recommend Ars Technica live blog.
- gnicholas 8y agoThe "super retina" designation doesn't refer to PPI, right? Seems like 458 isn't that much higher than past models, if at all. Is "super" just a reference to the increased color gamut and true tone functionality?
- hinkley 8y agoIn laser printers it was a big deal when they hit 200, 300, 400 and 600 dpi. Going from >300ppi to >400ppi probably warrants a special mention.
- gnicholas 8y agoIt looks like the last-generation iPhone X also had 458 PPI. I got the impression from the presentation that the super retina display was new to this year. My mistake. EDIT: Also, if Jobs' original theory about retina displays was that the human eye can't see individual pixels at this threshold (300 PPI), then going above and beyond that is perhaps not that important.
- xoa 8y ago>EDIT: Also, if Jobs' original theory about retina displays was that the human eye can't see individual pixels at this threshold (300 PPI), then going above and beyond that is perhaps not that important. Keep in mind that sometimes implementation details of technology can hide very important differences, so you need to normalize if you want to compare them. In this case, "pixel" does not have a uniform meaning, because it conceals what actually goes into making each unit of light. The original "Retina" displays were LCDs, high quality high DPI LCDs of course, but still LCDs in terms of the pixels being made from even individual sets of red, green and blue. In contrast the OLED in the iPhone X (and now successors) are "PenTile" designs, diamond pixels with a larger green element and smaller red/blue ones wedged in (taking advantage of the human eye's general spectrum response to some extent). This asymmetric arrangement though can mean that an LCD and PenTile display of equivalent "PPI" can have quite visible differences in resolution, and the PenTile requires a higher PPI to reach equivalent levels of imperceptibility. The percentage of active light emission area to surrounding support area can also have an effect. It's possible that future quantum dot technologies or micro inorganic LED displays or the like could change this again, requiring a lower PPI for the same effect, but we'll see. Also FWIW "resolution capability of the eye" necessarily involves distance and variations in the general population's resting focal point (there are a lot more near sighted people nowadays). So the PPI necessary to achieve "Retina quality" will be a function of sub-pixel construction, expected typical usage distance (a phone will tend to be used closer then a PC display which in turn will tend to be closer then a living room TV which in turn is closer then a billboard or public projector type system), and exactly how many standard deviations into the population a maker cares about.
- JumpCrisscross 8y agoAny notable security improvements?
- oh_hello 8y agoThere was mention of the secure enclave and FaceID technology being updated, but I was a little distracted. I did hear them declare it the most secure auth in any phone ever or something to that effect.
- josh2600 8y agoIf the new Apple processor is actually 7nm fab, that means that Apple is performing at a higher level of execution than basically everyone else in silicon land. Intel just failed spectacularly at shipping 10nm and TSMC is just beginning to do 7nm production hypothetically (I don't think any major production runs have been announced yet, but please correct me if I'm wrong). If Apple is shipping 7nm in iPhones, that's actually incredible. Edit: After doing a bit of research, it seems like Intel is actually the odd duck out and TSMC is doing the fab on these chip runs as well as the fab on Huawei's new chip with dual Neural Processing Units. It's actually just Intel that's failing to produce smaller and smaller chips (again, TSMC is producing 7nm for this Apple run as well as Huawei's new chip).
- plantain 8y ago7nm != 7nm - there's a lot of variety between processes. 7nm on a (relatively) small ARM is also a different world to 7nm on a chip the size of the latest Intel's.
- fermienrico 8y agoYep, for most intents and purposes, the "nm" race is mostly used for marketing akin to the "GHz" race back in the 90's and 00's. See this presentation from Mark Bohr from Intel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApWOf6J858Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApWOf6J858Y
- tigershark 8y ago6.9B transistors doesn't look small by any standard to me..
- praseodym 8y agoDoes anyone have more information or insight into about Apple’s GPU design? The Apple A12 chip has 4 GPU cores vs. 3 cores in the A11, but GPUs from Nvidia have orders of magitude more (3584 CUDA cores for the GTX 1080 Ti, each of which can run 2048 threads). How do these numbers compare?
- gbear605 8y agoNotably, you’re comparing the gpu inside an iPhone to a gpu that is more than twice as big as the entire iPhone. Unfortunately, I’m not sure about how the actual numbers measure up though.
- singularity2001 8y agoThe Bionic chip does 5 trillion operations per second. That's about the same as a NVidia GFX 970. Truely impressive!
- brigade 8y agoNVIDIA labels each SIMD lane as a core, which is basically the same thing as claiming that Intel makes a 896-core CPU. Anyway, no matter how you define a "core", GPU core counts don't matter except when comparing different SKUs of the same µarch.
- isoprophlex 8y agoEveryone must be able to admit: the automated HDR and improved bokeh look pretty hot..!
- lowlevel 8y agoYes, the new cameras and image processing are very impressive.
- celeritascelery 8y agoThat is the only reason I would consider the xs over the x. Still waiting for reviews to see just how good it actually is.
- gnicholas 8y agoIt's now possible to change the depth of field after taking the photo. I wasn't paying close enough attention to know if this will also be possible on older iPhones. EDIT: sounds like it's just the new iPhones. But it includes the less expensive Xr.
- heartbreak 8y agoThey bought the company ~3 years ago that made a camera with post-processing DoF tech: LinX.
- samstave 8y agoAre you referring to Lightro?
- gnicholas 8y agoI think you mean Lytro, which definitely came to mind during the keynote. Specifically, when they said that it had never been possible to change DOF in photos before. I was listening carefully to see if they would qualify that with "smartphone photography" — but they didn't. I think Lytro's tech beat them to the punch by around a decade.
- xvector 8y agoThis stuck out to me, the inventor and CEO of Lytro was my computer graphics professor at Berkeley. One of our projects in class about adjusting DoF post-capture, and it was definitely one of our exam questions.
- phinnaeus 8y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light-field_camera https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light-field_camera Light field cameras use different tech as I understand it.
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- folkrav 8y agoDual SIM could be big in some countries.
- seanalltogether 8y agoThis is the biggest announcement for me, because I hope it pushes the rest of the western market to standardize on multiple sims.
- tinus_hn 8y agoIt’s just a clever ploy to create demand for their e-sim software sim.
- davb 8y agoI’m quite concerned about the fact that only China will be getting nano-SIM and every other territory will have e-SIM only. On a recent trip from the UK to South Korea and Japan (where my network has very high roaming prices), it was relatively easy to pick up SIM cards from vending machines and desks at airports. I don’t imagine it’ll be as easy to negotiate and activate an e-sim connection.
- singularity2001 8y agoyou can use esim at home and physical sim on travels, or switch physical sim.
- asaph 8y agoJust announced: Apple now runs on 100% renewable energy.
- giarc 8y agoIncluding fabrication and production? Or just their office buildings?
- ralmeida 8y agoAt least office buildings and datacenters, unclear (to me) about factories.
- giarc 8y agoUnlikely factories as they don't belong to Apple (ex. Foxconn) so maybe a bit of greenwash involved here. Regardless, a step in the right direction.
- ralmeida 8y agoI think it’s unlikely too, though they may buy measured or estimated energy consumption in ‘green credits’ (i.e. provide the same amount of clean energy back into the same grid), as pointed out in a sibling comment.
- samstave 8y agoThey said all of their facilities, worldwide... Are apple stores considered a "facility"? Because, I cant see how the apple store in the Valley Fair Mall can get its own apple-power feed?
- walrus01 8y agoIt's not like Apple or any other entity doing this is building new last mile electrical distribution, or putting new PV on the roof of malls. They're buying "credits" for kWh from solar/wind/hydroelectric generation sources, which feed into the same electrical grid operator, matching the number of kWh that the meter for the store consumes in a month.
- plantain 8y agoThe showmanship really feels like it's run out. Even when it was the post-Jobs Ive and Cook it was still captivating, but this is just tiresome.
- adrr 8y agoI just wish they would stop saying "the most advanced X ever made". Every new revision of a product is the most advanced version of the product.
- nailer 8y agoJust read your comment and hit play on the livestream to hear Jonny Ive immediately say "the most advanced LCD in a smartphone"...
- AdamJacobMuller 8y agoI understand that to a degree, there theoretically could be a better screen in a competitors phone, though I still think its tired out. The constant "This is the best X that Apple has done, or the best X in an iPhone/iWatch" was seriously grating. Well, duh, new year, new products. If this wasn't better then apple wouldn't be releasing it....
- chooseaname 8y agoWhy would they stop? They have people like Rene Ritchie who live and breathe what they say and repeat it on their website for other people who live and breathe it.
- SiVal 8y agoAnd the most expensive. Maybe they could get J. Ive to use his best "I'll be your server today" voice and purr about how, "We think you'll agree that this is the most expensive iPhone we've ever made."
- Ataraxy 8y agoWould you say they just phoned it in?
- thcsa 8y agoThey presented the dynamic depth control with the words: "No other smartphone right now can do that". Lie. I'm writing this comment on a Vivo Nex and I have been using this for months.
- heartbreak 8y agoNo, the Vivo Nex cannot adjust depth of field in post-processing. It can adjust depth of field (via aperture) before capture.
- thcsa 8y agoWrong. I shoot the photo, and can afterwards (or whenever I stumble upon the photo in my gallery) adjust the depth of field with a slider. Pretty similar to what they did in the presentation. I can even change the subject of focus.
- niggah 8y agoDefinitely has the option to adjust depth of field in post-processing. Done it lots of times.
- phinnaeus 8y agoNot a smartphone, but there's also these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light-field_camera https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light-field_camera And this isn't done through ML trickery.
- VectorLock 8y ago>This will be the first ECG product available over the counter to customers. The AliveCor Kardia has been available for a while. I got one for a family member with atrial fibrillation issues and it works really well and sticks on the back of their cell phone.
- guzik 8y agoI don't know why they lie in their presentations. There are at least 100 consumer ECG monitors/trackers on the market.
- theshrike79 8y agoThe presentations aren't exactly off the cuff, that shit is vetted by two dozen lawyers. Apple doesn't 'lie'. They might stretch and embellish the truth or use very specific phrasing, but they don't lie.
- Someone1234 8y agoThis seems like needlessly trying to take an inch. Apple says statements which the average person with a fully array of facts would call untrue i.e. a lie. The fact that a lawyer somewhere can find a loophole or just enough edge for doubt, doesn't within itself disprove that. It is common tongue, common sense, a lie, a untruth, factually incorrect, etc.
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- gmailsyncer 8y agoI just bought a Macbook Pro yesterday
- Splines 8y agoiPhone pricing tiers: - XR $749 - XS $999 - XS Max $1099 Yikes. And that's for the lowest storage available.
- gbear605 8y agoThe iPhone SE, iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 are still going to be for sale, at $349, $449 and $599 respectively. The range is plenty wide.
- oh_hello 8y agoThis strategy makes perfect sense, but does come with a psychological component that is difficult to overcome. When you but the 7 or 8 there is a sense you are buying an out of date product as opposed to a new, lower-end product. I'm sure managing the products this way saves a fortune because they are always only working to engineer the latest products and coasting on previous years' work for the cheaper models.
- ValentineC 8y agoHrm, they seem to have stopped marketing the iPhone SE.
- krzyk 8y agoiPhone SE is no longer available in the online apple store (at least in Poland).
- mikestew 8y agoYup, and the lowest tier is 64Gb vs. the next tier at 256Gb. So $DEITY only knows what the phone you'll actually buy will cost. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this to be the largest gap between tiers yet, with the lowest being four times smaller than the next tier. EDIT (all prices US): for the big one: 256: $1249 512: $1499 Little one: 256: $1149 512: $1349 R: 128: $799 256: $899
- masklinn 8y ago> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this to be the largest gap between tiers yet, with the lowest being four times smaller than the next tier. 7 and 8 were the same if not worse.
- slg 8y agoIt is interesting that Apple will now sell 7 distinct phone models. Throw in the different capacities and carriers and you have a few dozen different SKUs. That isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it is a notable deviation from their early approach to the iPhone.
- smitherfield 8y agoWhen the original iPhone launched there was no other product like it; nowadays they need to be able to compete with Android on price.
- endemic 8y agoCompete on price? They're getting more and more expensive...
- 21 8y agoFlagship Androids are also getting more and more expensive.
- GFischer 8y agoBoth Apple and Samsung are going to get their lunch eaten by Xiaomi, Huawei and the rest I guess, then. I'm eagerly awaiting the Pocophone F1 release here in Uruguay.
- lucb1e 8y agoThat rings true. Huawei owner here who, when purchasing, was doubting between a Lenovo, Xiaomi and this Huawei. Didn't have to think long when seeing what Samsung asks for a mid- or high-end phone (or when comparing specs of their low-end models).
- microtherion 8y agoThat must be an odd definition of "lunch", given that Apple tends to capture roughly 80% of Smartphone profits, Huawei about 6%, and Xiaomi even less than that.
- whitepoplar 8y agoIs Apple discontinuing the iPhone SE without a replacement? :(
- BillinghamJ 8y agoThe "R" is the replacement
- whitepoplar 8y agoThe R is bigger than the iPhone 8. How is it a replacement for the SE?
- mikestew 8y agoLet's not shoot the messenger here. You might not like it, but the R is the for "replacement". You'll have to take it up with Apple if you want to know why.
- fusiongyro 8y agoYou sure about that? The XS is smaller than the XR.
- mikestew 8y agoWas the SE about size or price? I thought it was about price, and coincidentally was smaller. If it's the other way around, then you're right. But then my whole world view on Apple's product lineup kind of gets confused.
- fusiongyro 8y agoApple may have intended it to be about price, but look at all the complaining. A lot of people bought it for size.
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- rubatuga 8y agoA shame new mac models weren't announced.
- heartbreak 8y agoThe new Mac models (spec bumps, really) were announced a few weeks ago.
- golangnews 8y agoDays since an update: Mac Pro, Mac mini - 1427 MacBook, iMac, MacBook Air - 464 The only thing updated recently was the MacBook Pro (to fix the keyboard).
- MBCook 8y agoThey also didn’t talk about iPads which we have leaks for. Speculation is we’ll see an October event to cover that stuff.
- DaveSchmindel 8y agoI can imagine Apple has quite a few linguists on its payroll; They are still beating the words “beautiful” and “best” to death in their keynotes. It’s tough to not be excited about new features that are debuted upon each release, but it’s also getting monotonous to hear, “Product X is the _best_ version of its kind. Product Y is the _most_ <adjective> we’ve ever created and its pictures are simply _beautiful_.”
- alttab 8y agoTheir lack of vocabulary is INCREDIBLE.
- curuinor 8y agoTheir ability to communicate to terrible english speakers is also incredible.
- namedlambda 8y agoI am not a native speaker but the repetition of "best X we have ever built" or "best X yet" or "most advanced" and their unimaginative variations took away what could have been one of the best (pun intended) product launches of the year.
- clamprecht 8y ago"Immersive"
- clwk 8y agoYesterday evening, my daughter noticed an iPad had been removed from its case and held up the empty one asking what gives? My immediate response, "What you're looking at is the THINNEST, LIGHTEST, iPad we've ever produced. It's 127% faster than the case alone. And now for something we know you're going to love. In the past you've enjoyed lunch, and you've told us about how much you liked late lunch. Tonight we have something really special for you, and I can't wait to tell you about it. Introducing dinner."
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- ynniv 8y agoSomething to note on the market: AAPL was trending well up during the Watch announcements, and well down during the rest.
- 21 8y agoAAPL is one of the most watched and analyzed stocks in the world. What I mean is that it's behavior is beyond the understanding capabilities of a mere mortal which is not heavily involved.
- ynniv 8y agoI agree on complexity, but when you see a clear up/down peak that is well correlated to a popular live event... you can make a decent guess.
- 21 8y agoSure, but you don't know what in the popular live event was the trigger of the move. At this level, it might be the color of the shirt of somebody walking on the stage, or the length in seconds of the video for some feature.
- ynniv 8y agoSeriously did you look at the chart compared to the Mac Rumors time stamps? This isn't butterflies and hurricanes. I'm not even sure why I'm writing this reply.
- Odenwaelder 8y agoThey killed the SE! Now we're stuck with screens too big to use with one hand. I really really dislike this.
- pat2man 8y agoWhile I liked the smaller size, the fact is that the vast majority of people prefer a larger screen for all sorts of reasons. The solution is for app developers to move as much as possible to the bottom section of the screen, which is happening relatively quickly on iOS. Secondary actions may still require a second hand, but most primary actions should not.
- iainmerrick 8y agoThis is what everyone is saying, but the "vast majority" is what, 95% of a vast market? 97%? That still leaves a decent-sized market, which I would think could sustain a perfectly viable business. Apparently I would think wrong, but what's the issue? Is it just not possible to manufacture a high-quality small phone for a mere 1% of the world market? Plenty of Android manufacturers are making decent phones for much smaller market segments than that...
- dr_ 8y agoI have iPhone X. I use the Reachability function often, and find it fairly easy to use the phone with one hand.
- pfortuny 8y agoSame as I with a 7. Reachability is quite well worked out.
- phyrex 8y agoI'm really upset about this. I HATE large screens and not for the lack of trying!
- Shivetya 8y agoI am impressed the X(s) has more screen space than my 8+ has in a similar form factor. So I can have more screen without having to jump up again in size. I do admit however I would have liked to see an X in the same size as a base 8.
- mixmastamyk 8y agoHow have privacy concerns over the facial recognition panned out?
- tinus_hn 8y agoWhat are the privacy concerns?
- MBCook 8y agoThey all seem to have been made up, just like the Touch ID ones. I’m not aware of anyone figuring out ways to extract your face print or fool it without high resolution 3D scans and expensive fabrication of custom masks.
- tomschlick 8y agoEverything stays on the device inside the secure enclave just like touch ID did. What concerns are there?
- dlojudice 8y agoI had a HUGE expectation on a new MacBook Air! I've watched til the end expecting "one more thing" (which would be unlikely, given it isn't a exactly a new product)
- smitherfield 8y agoExpected in October along with a new iPad Pro and iMac. It's been some time since they launched any new Macs at an iPhone event.
- justadudeama 8y agoDo we know when in October?
- smitherfield 8y agoNope.
- lowlevel 8y agoYeah, I thought for sure it was gone too ;) it's the only Apple notebook I can recommend at this time.
- demircancelebi 8y agoIt looked like they intentionally hid the notch in iPhone Xs and iPhone Xs Max during the keynote with the background they chose, maybe to differentiate it from iPhone Xr.
- jpttsn 8y agoMaybe it’s because OLED phones do black backgrounds well: next to them LCD phones look their best with colorful backgrounds.
- vinceguidry 8y agoSkipping this round in favor of the Librem 5. If Purism can deliver a usable phone I'll be so happy. Apple has managed to run my digital life from bliss to constant, guarded skepticism, happy to jump off that train.
- oh_hello 8y agoI'm amazed by the sizing. The SE appears to be gone. This means the smallest device you can buy is the 7/8. Many still find this to be too large. Considering Apple's history of selling older iPhone models at a lower price, it seems like two years from now the bottom of the line will be the Xs and Xr announced today. The smallest lower-end iPhone available at that time would be the Xs which is larger than the 6/6s/7/8. Obviously I have no idea what Apple has planned, but the push to increasingly large devices seems like a bad idea.
- tfandango 8y agoI have some younger kids who have the SE models, I like them because they are cheap(er), they work in the apple ecosystem I have, they are small enough for kids to carry around w/o breaking them, and I can easily track everyone. I won't be buying them any of these new ones, either stick to older SEs or purchase cheaper androids for them now.
- topbanana 8y agoMuch the same story here. Was hoping for an SE 2 for my kids as they're moving up to secondary school and hoped they could keep their iPad game progress. Android ahoy
- em500 8y agoWhat's wrong with the SE1?
- lifeisgood99 8y agoIt's not sold anymore
- em500 8y agoIt is, just not from the Apple store. https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/ https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/ "Available at authorized resellers"
- HoppedUpMenace 8y agoI still cannot believe that in order to use the latest Apple watch, you still need an iPhone 6 or later with iOS 12 or later. I was dead set on grabbing a watch once I heard what it would feature but after reading the small print, why would I spend money on getting an iPhone, then an expensive monthly plan, followed by a watch, then a separate plan for that? Is there something I'm not seeing? This seems like a lot of money to front just to get into the device I really want but at the same time having to deal with something I don't want, plus 2 monthly plans. Edit/update: So as it stands now, $749 for an iPhone XR, roughly $80/month plan, $499 for GPS + Cellular watch, and $10/month for watch (based on current series 3 watch plan). That basically breaks down to $1250 plus taxes in upfront costs to get access to a device that, for me anyway, has more useful utility to it than the phone, plus over $100/month (again, after taxes) just so I can utilize the full feature set of said watch.
- jonknee 8y agoThe Watch is an accessory to the phone...
- chooseaname 8y agoYou're obviously not the market for Apple. They want people who don't think, just buy.
- amanzi 8y agoThe iPhone is the centre of Apple's universe. They want all their customers on a supported iPhone.
- KSS42 8y agoThose are choices you are making. Other options: Refurb iPhone7 is $379 (USA only) There are cheaper plans than $80. Do you need cellular watch? I have an iphone 6+ and I will probably not upgrade to a new phone but get the series 4 GPS watch.
- p1esk 8y agoYou can buy a refurbished iPhone 6 for a $180, so that would be $680 upfront cost.
- newfocogi 8y agoIt was interesting to hear apple state that one of their goals for building products was to make them last longer in order to minimize waste. People often accuse hardware manufacturers, including apple, of intentional obsolescence. I am interested to see if they actually change anything about their process, software and hardware, to put any weight behind this claim, or if it is just marketing doublespeak.
- davedx 8y ago> I am interested to see if they actually change anything about their process, software and hardware, to put any weight behind this claim, or if it is just marketing doublespeak. In the same section she said they were already using recycled tin in the control boards, and their recycling programme had been improved too. To be honest the sustainability part was the most impressive of the whole keynote, and is a reason I'll continue to be a loyal Apple customer.
- xvector 8y agoHas it ever really been marketing doublespeak? AFAIK, Apple keeps their devices updated longer than any other hardware manufacturer.
- agumonkey 8y agosame was true about desks in the iMac days, I was shocked that even crippled iMacs could run the latest OS X years after the fact without being unusable (slow but usable).
- acomjean 8y agoYes and no. I have a MacBook pro with full ports. It should last me a while (like a tank). But Windows has generally been far better about supporting older hardware (though MS isn't generally thought of as a hardware... ) My coworker needed a new battery for her Air as it wasn't keeping power long enough for her teaching (it wouldn't make it through her lecture). Apple labeled her machine "vintage" so no official battery replacement available. She was not happy. Making components non-upgradeable also lowers serviceable life. They're better at supporting iOS devices, though I have a iPad1 and a iphone4S. Hopefully this new initiative will help.
- kanishkdudeja 8y ago> The iPhone XR will offer an LCD screen with a resolution of 1,792 by 828. This would give it a resolution of around 324 pixels per inch, slightly below the iPhone 4’s 326 ppi. This is sad.
- read_if_gay_ 8y agoHow so? It has sufficiently high PPI, you won't be able to see individual pixels. Going higher is pointless.
- kanishkdudeja 8y agoIf going higher is pointless, why does the iPhone XS has a PPI density of 458? They should have stayed at 326 in that case as well.
- celeritascelery 8y agoOLED needs higher pixel density to achieve the same level of “sharpness”. That’s why LCD’s can looks as crisp at much lower PPI.
- daviddumon 8y agoCould someone enlight me on the EU prices ? US has the 5.8 Xs 64go model listed for $999. Eu price for the same model (french store) is 1159€ ... According to xe.com, current USD/EUR rate is 0.8599, so $999 => 859€. It seems to me that they've applied the inverse rate : 1159*0.8599 = 996. What am I missing there ?
- Steko 8y ago> What am I missing there ? It's usually something like the worst exchange rate in the last x months plus VAT.
- daviddumon 8y agoThanks, seems like I forgot to account for VAT in the french price.
- balent 8y agoTaxes and import duties.
- untog 8y agoIt occurs to me today how sad it is that we only have two viable mobile ecosystems these days. I have an iPhone SE, which Apple has opted not to update. That's their decision to make, I suppose, but no-one else can make iOS devices and I really don't want to switch to Android (it isn't ignorance, I've used it since the Nexus One, I've just grown to dislike it for privacy and UI performance reasons over time, and it doesn't have great hardware in the size I want either)... and there aren't really any other choices. Sigh. It's enough to make me nostalgic for Windows Phone.
- GFischer 8y agoUI performance in Androids is decent these days. Privacy, well... no. Even within the Android ecosystem, it's very sad that innovation is stymied. The only ones that even try are LG and they always fall flat. There's a long list of different Android phones I'd like to see: - Keyboard / Accessible phones. My mother in law has some disabilities that prevent her from using a touch-phone and she's using an Android phone with keyboard for messaging. Once it breaks, I'll be hard pressed to find a replacement - Small size phones with decent specs. Lots of people are very vocal about that, a current coworker spent a lot of time searching and got frustrated, the only small phones available were basically dumbphones - Specialist phones, I can't believe we still don't have phones with physical camera button and better swappable lenses (I think Sony tried that one, and there are some add-ons). Sure there are a lot more undeserved niches.
- ppseafield 8y agoI miss the camera button on my Nokia 928. All of the Windows phones were required to have it. Now my Nexus 5X occasionally opens the camera when I don't want it to (It thinks or is accidentally triggered for a double power button press.) I looked into phones with physical keyboards a couple years ago for my mother, and I couldn't find anything except an old LG feature phone that hadn't been manufactured in years. I had a Samsung S3 mini that was a bit slow but worked alright. Battery was a problem, but the phone was old when I got it. It worked well for most things except extensive reading. I had an Alcatel Idol 3, and the display was pretty low resolution for its screen size, but I would get almost two days of battery out of it between charges. Unfortunately the physical power button broke.
- Tomte 8y agoIP68 is neat. The second camera is also pretty important. The other differences between Xs and Xr I don't care much about. I don't particularly care about OLED. I don't play AR games (and I'm disappointed nobody seems to have found an AR killer app. Those games are so lame. Star constellation recognition is nice, but doesn't excite anyone anymore. But practical uses? Just today I was standing on the beach wondering whether the town in the distance was town A or town B (or if town A is maybe behind the curve). The phone knows my location, my bearing and has a map. It could label POI in display. That's the most practical use I can come up with right now, and I doubt I need the bazillion times improvement in their ML coprocessor for that. I'm in the market for an iPhone right now. The event didn't wow me enough to really get comfortable with that kind of money. But will I resist the voices in my head that say that the 7 and 8 are old? I was hoping for a price drop for the original X.
- asaph 8y agoUhg. Still no Airpods wireless charging case (first announced at last year's September event). I've held off on buying Airpods for a full year because I want the wireless charging case. How much longer will we have to wait for this product, Apple?
- shroom 8y agoTiny note: Their event videos are no longer Safari exclusive. Nice!
- maithd 8y agoI love apple products, but number one thing I still don't understand is why Siri insists on taking up the entire screen. Siri should be a small overlay much like on mac os, its such an oversight by their software engineering team! This still hasn't been addressed on iOS 12.
- thought_alarm 8y agoI hate the loss of the home button. Face ID is fine, but multiplexing so many different features on to the single, poorly-placed, side button has been a huge negative for me. The side button is way too easy to hit when the device is in your pocket, and when that happens you're activating Siri, or Apple Pay, or some accessibility shortcut, or you're taking a screenshot, or you're activating emergency mode. I've lost count of the number of times I've pulled my iPhone X from pocket to find that the screen is on, Siri is waiting for a command, and the accessibility menu is on screen. And when I actually need to take a screenshot, or shutdown the device, I can never remember the actual key combination. It's such a mess.
- uptown 8y agoI've been using the X and while it's a great device, the one thing I miss most is TouchID. Things like ApplePay are less convenient using FaceID, so I'm less likely to use it. The side-button double-click is awkward and unnatural feeling. Unlocking the device when it's flat on a desk or table now requires that I pick up the device instead of placing a finger on the sensor. Unlocking on the X seems slower than with the finger -- perhaps because in order to unlock I need to have it aimed towards me, whereas with TouchID I could unlock as I brought the device in front of my field of view. I really wish they'd found a way to keep TouchID even while introducing FaceID capable cameras.
- mstade 8y agoThis, a million times this. Face ID is such a leap back from Touch ID.
- sixstringtheory 8y agoAs an iOS developer who constantly needs to reunlock test devices, I simply cannot be required to face each one each time to use FaceID, that’s an ergonomic nightmare. It also reminds me of the Black Mirror episode where people live in those small rooms with walls and ceilings lined with TV displays, and it would pause ads while it detected they weren’t actively watching. (S1E2: Fifteen Million Merits, probably NSFW) Maybe Apple will eventually “catch up” to Android and put a TouchID on the back of the phone :D H*ck, make it Apple shaped!
- Matthias247 8y agoThe loss of 3D touch on the Xr seems pretty disappointing. I use that feature quite a lot on my iPhone 8, especially for moving the cursor around in text messages. It seems like the Xr would be a lot less efficient for that, unless they have found another good UX for that.
- 05 8y agoTapping and holding the spacebar moves the cursor in ios12, but selecting text becomes much more awkward without force touch..
- rleigh 8y agoThe only thing I want to hear about is the release of a new Mac Mini. I want a new CI build slave, and I'm not paying for the existing obsolete one.
- torgian 8y agoiPhone 5s was the perfect size for me (I guess that's the SE now). But I've been using the iPhone 6s for the past few years and like it. I don't see myself replacing it anytime soon since it works just fine the way it is. The new phones are pretty damned expensive though. nearly a thousand bucks where I live for the 256gig version of the XR, and the iPhone Excess is a good 1600USD after taxes in my area. Just too damn expensive.
- threatofrain 8y agoIt's amazing that Apple's watch is now the cheapest cell phone in their new lineup.
- thirdsun 8y agoIf we ignore the fact that it's a cell phone which requires another cell phone.
- threatofrain 8y agoI thought it now comes with independent calling!
- thirdsun 8y agoSure, but an iPhone is still required to set the device up. The watch needs to be paired to an iPhone. While you can use it without the phone after the initial pairing it's still not intended as a stand-alone device for longer periods of time.
- whymsicalburito 8y agoThis is how apple will lose me as a customer. These giant phones are horrible. All their products are getting progressively shittier. No real Pro laptop, horrendous keyboards (even the new "quieter" ones), borderline unusable phones. What the actual fuck.
- j79 8y agoThe other day, I read on /r/apple that people were getting surveys regarding their iMac Pro purchases. There was speculation that maybe they were using the feedback for the next Mac Pro upgrade. It got me thinking that it's been THREE years since I personally bought an Apple product. I made me wish that I could personally provide feedback through a survey about why I haven't purchased a new Apple product recently (I'm assuming they have some history of my purchases?) Since I switched from PCs to Macs, I've purchased (not in order): PowerBook G3 (Pismo) - My first Apple device that started my love affair PowerBook G4 12" MacBook Pro 12" MacBook Pro 15" Power Mac G5 (with ACD) Mac Pro (with ACD) iPod (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th gen) iPod Mini (1st, 2nd, 3rd gen) iPod Shuffle (1st, 3nd, 4th gen) iPod Touch (forget which gen) iPhone (Original, 3G, 3GS, 4S, 5S, 6S) iPad (Original, iPad 2, iPad Mini, iPad Pro) Apple Watch (3) Apple TV (multiple) And countless Apple products for family (three or four Mac Minis over the years for parents, iPhones, iPods, etc.) It's a shame because NOTHING Apple offers is of interest to me. Like you said, I don't want a giant phablet (remember when Apple fans mocked those?? "But I can use my phone with one hand!" we all said mockingly) I'm not even sure if they're listening to their "pro" customers when it comes to "pro" hardware (or if pro customers are even a demographic Apple wants to cater to?) Unfortunately, I've started looking at non-Apple devices. (The Lenovo ThinkPad P1 is what I want in a laptop. I'm still not sold on any particular iPhone replacement, yet...) But, nearly 20 years of my life, I've called myself an Apple "fan". So it's tough. I don't know, maybe I'm just not the target demographic =\ I realize I'm just one person (who use to buy Apple products for six other people - all family), so my move from Mac -> PC wouldn't affect Apple's bottom line. But, I'd like to think that there are others out there like us, who are getting fed up with Apple of today. Sorry for the long rant (that's slightly humblebrag-ish, I don't mean for it to be...)
- mattbierner 8y agoThe base phone price is now $999. The announcement and marketing effectively position the XS as the default model (with the messaging around the XR casting it as a downgrade, more like the iPhone 5C). They also eliminated the regular Plus so users who want a larger phone are forced to the even more expensive Max. It looks like they pulled this off pretty well too, although sales numbers in the coming months will tell the true story. In one generation they went from, "pay $999 to upgrade to the higher end option (the X)," to, "pay $999 for our regular phone or downgrade to the XR."
- 0x8BADF00D 8y agoThat’s a good point. You also won’t be able to upgrade your NAND size to 512 GB unless you buy the XS.
- darkhorn 8y agoNo FM radio? Too bad.
- johnhenry 8y agoProbably not the best place to ask this, but what did Phil Schiller mean by "one trillion operations per photo"?
- celeritascelery 8y agoBasic They have dedicated hardware that is used for image processing. They run a trillion operations through this hardware to post process the photo. That sounds insane till you realize that these operations are very small and the hardware is highly parallelized.
- lowlevel 8y agoAlso went from large phone to SE... I can't stand the power button on the side. I can't stand the rounded edges. I can't stand the bending phones (5 now)... and yea, they're all just too big for my hands. iOS 11 has also been a complete nightmare. Dead batteries, hot/slow phone, crashing, text messages have been out of order for over a year. Cost was not a factor. I'm now on my 4th iphone in 6 months due to hardware and software failues, and manufacturing issues. The warranty experience has also gone down hill.. they keep telling me they have to ship my phone away and give me a loaner... only to call me back a day later saying 'uh we have to give you a new phone' ... in the past, they would just give you the new phone while you were there the first damn time and thats really something that has changed for the worse. I managed to get a new SE w/iOS 10.x.x out of them a couple weeks ago... so I'm hoping I'm good for a couple years as long as I don't accidentally update it. It's looking like the iPhone SE will be my last apple product... ever.
- jghjg 8y agoit was very funny how they've hidden the notch with those black images
- manigandham 8y agoI've owned iphones for 8 years. They are great devices but even with the hardware doubling in speed every year, it still takes just as much time (if not more) to do the same tasks. Perhaps its a software and bloat issue, but the only noticeable thing improvements have been better pictures and I can read more on a single page-view, but everything else seems exactly the same.
- maz1b 8y agoI think the one really innovative thing that is going on at Apple is their investments in their AI/ML/N team. Plus, the silicon team always does great work with the A series cpus and all the new ones too like the S4 for the watch. I'm going to use my iPhone SE until it no longer works. I don't want bigger phones, and I'll vote with my dollars. I'm also in the market for a MacBook Pro, but the touch bar is not something I'm interested in at the expense of the function keys. We should be able to get the best of Apple hardware, but not at a compromise.